Mark Hinkle Defeats Wayne Root to Become Newest Libertarian Party Chairman

Mark Hinkle beat Wayne Root in the third round of balloting for Chairman at the Libertarian Party National Convention. Hinkle won with 54.14% over Root’s 43.93%, with None of the Above scoring 1.93%. Full results of each round of balloting can be found here. Hinkle was endorsed by six former national chairmen.

76 thoughts on “Mark Hinkle Defeats Wayne Root to Become Newest Libertarian Party Chairman

  1. NewFederalist

    I guess this leaves him available for the presidential nomination, eh?

  2. Carol Moore

    I think he’ll get shafted there. Especially if he can’t find anyone to smear as a pedophile lover… Didn’t work this time, did it Wayne?

  3. Trent Hill Post author

    I suspect Root will get on the LNC-at-large.

    My guesses now are Root, Gray, Dixon, Nolan, and Redpath.

  4. Joey G. Dauben | The Palmer Post

    Well, for one thing, it would prevent what happened in North Carolina and Indiana in 2008, when Barr’s presence basically gave the race to Obama in both states.

    So perhaps it’s time for Root to return to the GOP, now that we are solidly on the up-slope in terms of pissed-off true liberty-loving conservatives. He’d make a great Nevada Republican nominee for (pick your race.)

    But then there’s also this 2012 hypothetical: http://eco2.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/ron-paul-wont-rule-out-2012-run-for-president-i-have-no-plans-but-i-have-not-ruled-it-out/

  5. C Michael Pickens

    The LP purists have won this one. Hopefully Mark can give the LP the energy it needs. I’m not sure he can though.

  6. Trent Hill Post author

    Hinkle is hardly a purist, Hancock was. He’s more of a centrist really, with Root being on the reformer side.

    I think Hinkle as chair with Rutherford as vice-chair makes a LOT of sense. Both have a record of results.

  7. Alan Pyeatt

    Congratulations, Mark!

    That was a very impressive come-from-behind victory. With Mark at the helm, I think we have seen the high-water mark of division within the LP. That alone would be significant, but in his acceptance speech, mark told everybody to roll up their sleeves and get ready to work. Really, that’s what will determine whether our move succeeds or whether we fail: getting people’s butts off the couches and out from behind the computers, and out on the sidewalks knocking on doors.

    I’m looking forward to it.

  8. A Gastronomical Trunk

    Mark is the person most likely to keep the LNC from infighting. It is a well deserved win for all the hard work he has done and likely to do.

  9. Less Antman

    @Trent

    Just to clarify: Mark Hinkle is most assuredly a purist on libertarianism: you won’t anyone more consistent, and he was twice recipient of the Sam Adams Award in California for running the most effective libertarian campaign (the only candidate EVER to win it twice).

    I totally agree he is centrist in the sense of wanting to work with all factions, and that this is a good thing.

  10. JT

    This was very interesting to watch on the LP live stream. It’s not surprising that Root threw his hat into the ring for at-large rep, just as when he lost the presidential nomination in 2008 he ran for the vice presidential nomination.

    The big question to me now is: what will Root do if he loses twice this time and doesn’t get on the LNC at all? That’s unlikely, but I wonder if he’d stick with the LP after that. Those would be two slaps in the face at one convention for a guy who has traveled the country speaking before many state LP meetings. I don’t know if he could overlook both.

  11. Melty

    sure is good to see that we have a “chairman” and not just a “chair” . . . this “chair” talk seems so dehumanizing to me
    Chairman Hinkle!

  12. JT

    Trent: “My guesses now are Root, Gray, Dixon, Nolan, and Redpath.”

    Don’t forget that Myers said in his concession that he’s running for at-large also. I find it hard to believe he wouldn’t win a seat, even if he came in fourth for chairman.

  13. Ted Brown

    This is good news. Mark Hinkle has a great track record in California and I expect him to bring the same competent and effective leadership to the LNC. Unlike a lot of people on this list, I also like Wayne Root, but he was running for the wrong position here. He can still speak on behalf of the party without being the chairman. I just wish we could find a “Root of the left” to promote libertarian ideas to leftists as effectively as Root is doing to rightists.

  14. Trent Hill Post author

    Hinkle, Rutherford, and Wes Benedict should make a REALLY good team at HQ–they all have really good track records. Now if Dixon and Gray stay/get on the LNC, I’ll be impressed with the outcomes of these elections even more.

  15. This party is not ready for prime time

    This party is going to be where is was the last 39 years, no where. its not ready for prime time, this party will continue to get 1% of the votes. Very sad day.

  16. JT

    How does the at-large voting work? Do the seats go to the top five vote-receivers with each delegate getting one vote?

  17. George Phillies

    Known candidates for At-Large include:

    Mary Ruwart
    Lee Wrights
    Thomas B Hill
    John Jay Myers
    Wayne Root
    Rebecca Sink-Burris
    M Carling
    Pat Dixon
    Bill Redpath
    David Nolan
    Aaron Starr??

    Charles Wilhoit decided not to continue his run.

  18. Less Antman

    Don’t forget that Judge Jim Gray is also running, and based on the number of people with Gray stickers, looks very likely to get onto the LNC.

  19. clay

    This is kind of a non sequitur, but upon listening to Dakota Root’s remarks I feel thuroughly depressed. I can’t stand seeing people drag their kids into politics. I don’t care how objectionable this may sound, but I don’t really think political involvement is a healthy thing for young people. When you become deeply engaged in a political party, you adopt – more ore less – and ideology which governs all of your life’s decisions. This may be an okay thing after a person has reached maturity. But ideology entraps us. When I was in college I couldn’t have cared less about politics. What I had with that default position was an ability to address issues in my life from more of a pure objective perspective. I find that the more I engage with politics the less I can think completely clearly. It’s frustrating. It’s frustrating to talk to a young person who is an adamant supporter of this or that party. It’s like they use every conversation to express these broad views about issues, but can’t think within the context of their own life, or the immediate situation as well. It’s frustrating as hell.

    I’m glad Root lost.

    I’m glad Myers lost too.

    Phillies would have been cool.

    I need help.

  20. Zero Party Revolution

    Clay, you’re part of what’s wrong with this world. You obviously only cared about partying and brutish behavior in college if you didn’t care about politics. Young people should get involved in politics as early as possible.
    Now, hopefully Dakota and Wayne will leave the Libertarian Party, with all their followers, and endorse the Zero Party Revolution, which seeks to destroy all political parties. Hopefully Myers leaves too; he should have been chair.

  21. TJ Campbell

    My support of Wayne Root was cause he was the right leader for the LP “now” because he could get interviews on the mainstream press and get us supporters from the Tea Party… Hinkle will do okay at getting us volunteers and things like that, but my problems with Hinkle is that he is a horrible speaker, he is negative towards candidates, he flat out told me I won’t win so don’t try too hard, and he supported reinstating a pedophile (Matt Barnes) to our party that the Executive Committee threw out in order to not make our party look all fringe and “out-there” as most press outlets think we are. My wife and I are contemplating going to the GOP, because we have noted how many libertarians are actually getting noticed with an “R” next to their name, and they actually boot out pedophiles from their party.

  22. TJ Campbell

    OH and Mark Hinkle drug his kid, a wild radical, typical do-nothing libertarian named Logan into politics too…. frankly I would rather have 500 Dakota Roots instead of 10,000 Logan Hinkles, because our party would get more respect, more press, more donors and more women involved!!

  23. JT

    Clay: “But ideology entraps us.”

    I don’t think that’s necessarily the case. The right ideological principles can help guide your actions and be a liberating force by providing intellectual clarity.

    Zero: “You obviously only cared about partying and brutish behavior in college if you didn’t care about politics.”

    I don’t think you can infer that someone all someone cared about in college was “partying and brutish behavior” just b/c he or she wasn’t interested in politics. There are many college students who aren’t particularly into politics who aren’t brutes. You sound like a zero.

    TJ: “…but my problems with Hinkle is that he is a horrible speaker, he is negative towards candidates, he flat out told me I won’t win so don’t try too hard, and he supported reinstating a pedophile (Matt Barnes) to our party that the Executive Committee threw out in order to not make our party look all fringe and “out-there” as most press outlets think we are.”

    It seems like you’re throwing out wild accusations.

    I don’t think he’s a horrible speaker. He wasn’t the best among the candidates, but he sounded pretty good during the convention debate and in his acceptance speech.

    I’ve never heard that he’s “negative toward candidates” from anyone. He’s run for office himself before and worked hard to get ballot access and recruit people to run.

    Was this Matt Barnes convicted in court of child molestation?

  24. The LP Will Always Lose

    “This party is going to be where is was the last 39 years, no where. its not ready for prime time, this party will continue to get 1% of the votes. Very sad day.”

    That was a given regardless of who won.

    The U.S. political system is structured to prevent third parties from attaining real power. Third parties can achieve some things — spreading ideas — but they can never win big races, other than the rare fluke.

    If you can’t accept that, you don’t belong in a third party.

  25. TJ Campbell

    The California EC, which I was a member, removed Matt Barnes when it came out that he was a convicted (in court) and admitted child molester. We removed him because he promised to leave the EC and not run for party office again but remain a member, but he did run for party office in his county (an affiliate of our state LP) and we felt he needs to be removed so the press doesn’t run wild with how crazy libertarians are. Mark Hinkle, then on the Judicial Committee, along with 4 others voted 5-0 to reinstate Barnes, but in 2010, the delegates at the LP CA convention voted a new bylaw that bans those with violent felonies from party office, so basically I am satisfied with that bylaw but upset that Mark would not understand that people like Matt Barnes bring down our party registration with their involvement and he should have been eager to keep him out of our party, also, it hypocritical to have those who used force against another person to their enjoyment/success (which pedophiles do) to remain in a party which makes all members sign a non initiation of force agreement to be a member.

  26. TJ Campbell

    “This party is going to be where is was the last 39 years, no where. its not ready for prime time, this party will continue to get 1% of the votes. Very sad day.”

    That was a given regardless of who won.

    The U.S. political system is structured to prevent third parties from attaining real power. Third parties can achieve some things — spreading ideas — but they can never win big races, other than the rare fluke.

    If you can’t accept that, you don’t belong in a third party. ”

    What IS the point of a 3rd party anyway, if they won’t win races, why don’t we just run in other parties, the Hinkles, Phillies and Hancocks run as Democrats and the Roots, Barrs and Campbells run (or go back to) the GOP?

  27. Trent Hill

    “Mary Ruwart
    Lee Wrights
    Thomas B Hill
    John Jay Myers
    Wayne Root
    Rebecca Sink-Burris
    M Carling
    Pat Dixon
    Bill Redpath
    David Nolan”
    And Judge Gray.

    I’d guess we’ll see Pat Dixon, Bill Redpath, David Nolan, Judge Gray, and Wayne Root.

    Possibly Ruwart instead of Nolan or Redpath.

  28. The LP Will Always Lose

    “What IS the point of a 3rd party anyway, if they won’t win races, why don’t we just run in other parties,”

    The point of a third party is to speak truth to power. To say things that major party candidates dare not say (because they have something to lose).

    If you want to win races, you should run in the major parties (e.g. Ron Paul).

    I don’t understand people who keep whining about the importance of winning races, but then stay in third parties. You’d think after 150 years of being unable to break the Demopublican duopoly, despite trying every ideology, candidate, and tactic, third party people would wake up to reality.

  29. @LP will alway lose

    Maybe you need to check your history, There was this Whig party that use to be before another party kick in. So yes a 3rd party could get it. I can’t believe how dumb people are. With Wayne at the helm he could have brought this party a lot further than any person who was National Chair. But I guess you people didn’t want that. You don’t want to succeed. You want to keep this party as the wacko party. OHH LAAA DDEEE DAAAA. If Wayne does live, your right so will a lot of people who became members will follow. The LP has went up in membership since he has been out there, it was noted that membership on here on another post that membership went up. You can be in that fantasy that Root didn’t have anything to do with it. But he did, hes on a lot of media exposure, well you people who didn’t appreciate that but not voting him chair, I guess we are back stuck with the old to do nothing. Those of us who are smart enough to see the real picture here of course are less of us than those people who are liberals claim libertarians that are still communist or wackos that prefer a party of clueless. That is why Obama is in office, the same reason Hinkle is in office. You get what your going to get. Nothing.

  30. Jake

    It seems like Philies and Hinkle would have been my choices if I was part of the LP. From all of the reading Hinkle seems like a pure party kida guy, while people who voted for Root wanted to open the doors a little more. I could honestly see Root leaving the LP and giving a call out to some smaller parties: Reform Party.

    It would make perfect sense to me, because Root wants to be the top dog/name presence and the Reform Party has the name recognition(not for all positives) and he could be the party’s “savior”.

    I do not think Root would make a great chairman, but I believe he probably deserves a leadership position. Whatever your opinion of him is for some reason he does get his name out there.

    If Root doesn’t win any national position, Root to another party would make sense to me.

  31. If Root does leave

    For the amount of exposure Root gets, if he does leave, you guys will still be in the back dust and Root will become bigger and you guys no where.

  32. The LP Will Always Lose

    @ 41 says: “Maybe you need to check your history, There was this Whig party that use to be before another party kick in.”

    Maybe you need to check your history. Either that, or your reading comprehension skills.

    I specifically said: “You’d think after 150 years of being unable to break the Demopublican duopoly…

    I was clearly referring to the GOP replacing the Whig Party, which occurred some 150 years ago.

    BTW, that’s a strong argument against the potential of third parties, if the last success you can point to was 150 years ago.

  33. That because

    While the Tea Party became a wide known situation in a short time. Root becomes also getting out there in a short time is becoming wide known. What have the libertarian party done in a short time, oh thats right, not much of anything and its been 39 years. Go figure. Maybe if you guys had your butt in gear you would have been able to do what was done like 150 years ago.

  34. Steve Kubby

    Congratulations to the winners and to the membership for selecting such talented and experienced leaders to carry the LP into the future. Our party has had its fill of infighting and falling membership. Thankfully, we now have a new team that will grow the party, while steering a course that returns us to our libertarian principles and ideals.

  35. The LP Has Staying Power

    “While the Tea Party became a wide known situation in a short time. Root becomes also getting out there in a short time is becoming wide known.”

    Ross Perot also become well known in a short time. Where is he now?

    The LP has staying power. That’s something.

    By contrast, the Tea Party may be the flavor of the moment, much like 1992’s “Year of the Woman” and 1994’s “Year of the Angry White Man.”

    Root also become well known in gambling circles — until his business failed, leaving unhappy creditors and customers in his wake, and he had to find a new set of rubes for his next venture.

    Root’s got flash and sizzle, but no substance or gravitas — or even basic honesty.

  36. Hey Steve

    You still share your dam medicine that is suppose to be only for you? Maybe if they have prozac you would share that as well.

  37. Hinkle-Tinkle

    @15 Mark Hinkle won for most effective campaign? What was his vote percentage?

  38. Jose C

    Our party has had its fill of infighting and falling membership. Thankfully, we now have a new team that will grow the party, while steering a course that returns us to our libertarian principles and ideals.

    We have elected the status quo. We shall see in two years if we did the right thing. If not we should not be afraid to tell it like it is. We should call them on it.

  39. LP Will Always Lose

    We have elected the status quo.

    And over the past 4 years, the LP has followed a “voter-oriented, media-oriented, real-world-oriented, anti-debating-club-oriented” platform and presidential team.

    That didn’t “grow the party” any more than anything else the LP has tried over the decades.

  40. Just so you know

    Wes cannot be bothered to spend time talking to those who call him and ask questions, he good about hanging up on them with an attitude problem, so much for an example of Wes.

  41. Ted Brown

    @15
    Mark Hinkle has run for partisan office 8 times in California. See:
    http://www.joincalifornia.com/candidate/2725
    In 2008, he received 17,435 votes (9%) in his local State Assembly race (open district). He is currently a candidate in a special election for State Senate (election is June 22).

  42. Jake

    I don’t know if I would really want/like him to be involved with the Reform Party. I just never really looked deeply into what he is saying. I skim his editorials, appearances, and website from time to time just to keep updated with various third parties.

    It would just make sense to me that he would move on to the Reform, Modern Whig, or possibly even the general Conservative Party. Out of all those options the Reform Party makes the most sense. I think he is a good regional rep more than anything. Give him 5-10 states to do fundraising events with the states, get on the media, and use his salesmanship skills.

    I wish all the people in the LP good luck and it seems like you guys had a great & fun convention!

  43. Tom Blanton

    Oh my, oh my!

    What will the LP do now?

    This Hinkle guy has absolutely no infomercial experience, he doesn’t appear to be larger than life, and he’ll never be invited to go on the Michael Savage show and bitch about about Obama or proclaim the greatness of Reagan.

    America is now doomed. All I can do now is clutch my flag and weep – until Obama comes and pries it away from me. Let’s all pray that Glenn Beck will say the word “libertarian” on the air – that’s the only thing that can save the world now.

  44. JT

    Jake: “I could honestly see Root leaving the LP and giving a call out to some smaller parties: Reform Party.”

    No way. Root would never leave for a much smaller party than the LP; he’d consider that way beneath him. If he leaves at all, it will be to go back to the RP.

    Jose: “We have elected the status quo. We shall see in two years if we did the right thing. If not we should not be afraid to tell it like it is. We should call them on it.”

    The status quo? All of the officers are new to their positions. Do you mean because George Phillies and most of his New Path slate didn’t win? I’ll say this: anyone who aligns themselves with Phillies, an awkward, nasally physicist who has already been soundly rejected several times for an LNC seat (and once for an LP presidential nomination), should pick allies more carefully.

  45. Rondo

    Apparently, the WARbecks and the BobBarrians are still alive and well in what used be to known as the Party of Principle…

  46. gail k lightfoot

    I was asked to support the idea of not runing a POTUS in 2012 and told that W.A.R. agreed with the concept.
    Personaly, without being able to Vote Libertarian, I would have to stop voting. I cannot stomach any other choice.

  47. gail k lightfoot

    Speaking of party size. Read these numbers and weep.
    CA voter registration numbers April 9, 2010
    Elgible = 23,428,023
    Registered = 16,897,383
    Dems = 7,530,799
    Reps = 5,202,142
    AIP = 390,375
    [American Independent or Constitution – populists]
    Green = 112,136
    LP = 85,560
    P&F = 56,189
    [Peace and Freedom – Socialist]
    Other = 116,808
    Decline to State = 3,403,373
    [CA’s version of independent voter – because of the AIP – many AIP voters are independent voters who don’t understand the designations well]

  48. Not so wonderful Lib Vets Advocates ......... Lake

    Happy Memorial Day 2010 to Gail K. Lightfoot, RN, that forgetful neglectful mid coast (so called) libertarian whom jerks abused veterans around like a battered ball of tattered string!

    For get inviting a car load of abused vets from Southern California to be the stars of your Goleta broad cast —– with out giving the time and place!

    For get the details of my eight page 2005 abused veterans letter/ Lib article that Sandy Ego County’s Edward Tessiler (sp) and (Mister Sand Paper) Richard Rider (West Side version of George Phillies) tried to CHARGE ME for????????

    Happy Memorial Day, veteran hating bitch!

  49. Jim Davidson

    @61 According to Gail’s figures, the second largest political affiliation in California is: not registered.
    6,530,640 Californians don’t bother to register, although eligible, presumably because they don’t expect anything to change as a result of politics.

  50. Jose C

    @62 I was taught never to use such salty language when talking to a lady. It is obvious your mom and dad never taught you any manners.

  51. Chuck Moulton

    My votes:

    Chair: Mark Hinkle (all 3 ballots)
    Vice-chair: Mark Rutherford
    Secretary: Rob Power
    Treasurer: James Oaksun

    At-large:
    Bill Redpath
    Wayne Root
    Pat Dixon
    Kevin Knedler
    Lee Wrights

    Judicial Committee:
    Nick Sarwark
    Rob Latham
    Brian Holtz
    Ruth Bennett
    Bill Hall
    Lee Wrights
    (I just voted for 6)

  52. Chuck Moulton

    Clay (@29):

    This is kind of a non sequitur, but upon listening to Dakota Root’s remarks I feel thuroughly depressed. I can’t stand seeing people drag their kids into politics. I don’t care how objectionable this may sound, but I don’t really think political involvement is a healthy thing for young people.

    I completely disagree!

    We need far more involvement from young people. The median age of LP activists is far too high. College libertarians need to be aggressively recruited. They have far more time than money to contribute at that age, which is just fine because the LP desperately needs volunteers to be petitioners, campaign workers, and general activists. Most people don’t change their political views after they turn 30 years old, so we have to get them young.

    More specifically, I talked with Dakota Root extensively at Root’s table. She is very intelligent and has inherited some of her father’s salesmanship abilities. Dakota’s involvement is good for the LP. The same applies for James Oaksun’s daughter Sarah and Mark Hinkle’s son Logan.

    Plus Dakota Root is incredibly attractive (or in the vernacular: REALLY FUCKING HOT). The libertarian movement needs much more of that demographic… well, at least the libertarian single guy movement needs much more of that demographic. I’m very encouraged by the formation of the Ladies of Liberty Alliance (LOLA) and the LP Women’s Caucus to attract women to the libertarian movement and the Libertarian Party respectively.

  53. Jake Porter

    I would like to say that I am happy that Dakota Root and Mark Hinkle’s son are involved in the national party.

    During the 2008-2010 LNC term I believe I was the only LNC member under 30.

  54. Selective enforcement from Jose C ????????? ......... Lake

    [a] no snide snarkie comments ’bout ‘Chuck Moulton // Jun 1, 2010 at 12:25 pm’ and his comments on the ‘hot’ young woman and daughter of a cohort ??????

    [b] no snide snarkie comments on Nurse Light foot’s fakey dakey invite to the car full of former military for a non existent broad cast and crappy reply of, ‘I was not sure that you would arrive’ (or words to that effect ……..)

    no comments on Gail’s history of ‘air headed broad’ behavior ??????

    no consideration for the non Libs (and life time, ‘I’ll never be a Libertarian’ attitude) among the injured and abused!

  55. Chuck Moulton

    Lake wrote (@69):

    [a] no snide snarkie comments ’bout ‘Chuck Moulton // Jun 1, 2010 at 12:25 pm’ and his comments on the ‘hot’ young woman and daughter of a cohort ??????

    The buzz on the convention floor was that Dakota Root is very attractive. Those IPR denizens who couldn’t make the LP convention should get the gossip. Sorry if I didn’t articulate my factual point as respectfully as I should have.

  56. Selective 'but, but, but' ????????? ......... Lake

    why liberty matters
    SLO LP County Central Committee’s Public Access TV Program!
    (Cable cast on Charter Communications, Channel 2-San Luis Obispo)
    Show Times: 11:30 PM Wednesdays, 8:30 AM Fridays and 12:30 PM Mondays

    “Anything and everything from soup to nuts from a Libertarian perspective. * Once Life exists Liberty becomes essential to preserving ……….”

    “……… every action and reaction * must be judged in the context of Liberty. Public Access TV: The federal government requires all cable companies provide public access *.”

    “This allows you or me to create and broadcast on the cable company channels. Why Liberty Matters appears * via our local SLO County Public Access ………”

    * except for pro liberty (but blatantly unruly and uncomfortably honest) former military driving half way across the state to be the scheduled guests of honor. Inspite of numerous email and voice mail confirmations, we’ll let them cruise around town from phone booth to phone booth!

  57. Selective 'but, but, but' ????????? ......... Lake

    To Chuck Moulton:

    you have a right and a reason to comment on Ms Root, and more power to you.

    I have a right and reason to call Gail ‘Air Head’ Light foot, a years’ long out and out liar and leader whom seems unable to lead ( and veterans abuser living with a veterans big wig) a bitch. I stand by this state ment, first issued YEARS ago!

    My comment was directed at ‘Jose C’ (whom ever the ‘selective’ commentator is or was) and his (typical for Libs!) selective commentary!

    black is white

    water is not wet

    up is down

    War is Peace

    ……… and why is the anti Democan and anti Republicrat effort so ineffectual ?????????/

  58. Jill Pyeatt

    Wayne had an infant during the 2008 convention. I’ll bet she’s a cutie, now that she’s two.

    Was Root’s whole family there, or just Dakota and Mrs. Root?

  59. LibertarianGirl

    my votes-
    Chair-Wayne Root 1-3
    Vice Chair -Mark Rutherford
    Secretary-Rob Power
    Treasurer-Aaron Starr( yeah I voted for him , fuck you if you dont like it! LOL)

    At Large_ David Nolan
    Wayne Root
    Mary Ruwart
    Judge Gray
    Lee Wrights
    Judicial – Brian Holtz
    Nick Sarwark
    Bill Hall
    Lee Wrights
    Ruth Bennett
    RobLatham
    Sullentrup

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