Wayne Root elected Vice Chair of Libertarian Party of Nevada

According to one source, Wayne Root has been elected Vice Chair of the Libertarian Party of Nevada. At this time, I haven’t seen the names of the other state officers, but my source says they are “friends of Wayne Root and (State Chair) Joe Silvestri who have not been active in state and local events up until now” (this report has not yet been confirmed or denied by any other sources).

This is the first time that Wayne Root has been a Libertarian Party officer at the state or local level. He is an At Large member of the Libertarian National Committee, chair of the Libertarian National Congressional Committee, and was the 2008 candidate for Vice President.

UPDATES

1) Debra Dedmon has given me permission to cite her as the source quoted above

2) From David Colborne in the comments:

Running off of memory and posting on the road…

Chair: Joe Silvestri
Vice-Chair: Wayne Root
Secretary: Kris McKinster
Treasurer: Mike McCullough
North Rep: Me!
Central Rep: Sandra Darby
South Rep: Chris Roberts
At-Large: Irv Hopkins

Sandra was the only one that won her position in a landslide; all other votes were within five, including the Chair race between Joe and Sandra, which Joe won by only one vote.

It was definitely a contentious convention. In fact, in anticipation of the proceedings, Joe even stepped down from Chair of the proceedings and asked to let a professional parliamentarian (Alicia Mattson) handle the duties.

122 thoughts on “Wayne Root elected Vice Chair of Libertarian Party of Nevada

  1. Observer

    I think this is a good thing. We’ll have an opportunity to see how he handles himself and others with this new position.

  2. LibertarianGirl

    the votes were always w/in 1 or 3 votes of eachother , and before wayne gets portrayed as the bad guy here , he genuinely belives in Joe Silvestri.This is because he has never had the benefit of being in a business meeting with him and has no reason not to belive everything joe tells him .

  3. LibertarianGirl

    i genuinely have the sincerest hope the hewly elected excom can work to grow the party , i howvever have a big suspicion a cpl years from now they will be feeling just like i do right now…

  4. LibertarianGirl

    oh , and P , feel free to quote me unless explicitly told otherwise , as a free voice ( non excom member_) for the 1st time in a decade i will say whatever the hell I want to .

    i have nothing mean to say right now , no accusations to lodge , no names to call anyone, just a very deep seated feeling of embarassment and regret , bordering on depression… sorry to disappoint you all

  5. Country Crammer

    GPF, that subject is not appropriate for this thread.

    LG, Did you run against Root?

  6. paulie Post author

    @ facebook

    Debra Dedmon
    ?10 years of service and I shit you not , nothing to show for it but lost friendships and a deepseated feeling of embarrassment for having wasted so much of my time… SO FREAKING DEPRESSING

    o
    Paulie Cannoli ?:-( Losing too many good people

    o
    Carolyn Marbry Welcome to my world, darlin. I didn’t give them as much time as you did, but… *hugs.* 🙂

    o
    Carolyn Marbry Amazing how fast they turn on you, isn’t it?

    o
    Jill Pyeatt Maybe we’re just having a bad time right now–I’m kind of feeling it, too. Maybe you can just take a little break.

    o
    Debra Dedmon dudes , we have an excom in NV consisting of people who have never once been to meeting , neve once volunteered ,but are freinds of Jpe silvestris and Waynes. Wayne is our state Vice Chair now , and bless his heart , he just dont knbow what an absolute tyrant Joe can be . I know he beives joes stories about none of us helping etc . TOTAL LIES ,

    o
    Carolyn Marbry I heard. Some folks are feeling like they were betrayed. “Lied to,” actually, was the term. Connecting the dots between all this, the CA convention being held in NV and the LNC convention committee putting the convention in NV (after some interesting shenanigans involving withholding information from someone who opposed NV as a choice by an officer who is a NV resident), and well… it doesn’t look good, does it?

    o
    Bruce Cohen At least it’s not as bad as the California’s LP is.
    The cluster of inside conspiracy theories and nastiness is of a level greater than anyone imagined four years ago.

    We thought it would happen, but never know how bad it would get!

    o
    Lewis Whitten Try being a Democrat for a little while!

    o
    Debra Dedmon ya Alicia Mattso chaired the meeting after the Chair recused himself so as to be able to argue , oh geez , invidentally she did a very fair job IMO and in retrospect would have rather had her than Silvetri( VERY CONTENTIOUS CONVENTION) altho at the time i think i voted to make Silvestri do his job

    o
    Carolyn Marbry Ethics. Far more important to me than competence wielding a gavel.

    o
    Paulie Cannoli Was the California convention at the same place?

    o
    Debra Dedmon ya , it was wierd ecsp. since we could tell they had this planned but never mentioned it to any of the excom ( save Kris McKinster) and the Silvestri supporters perhaps. they just sprung in on the onventin body , All the votes were very close but in the end they won everything by like 2 or 3 votes tops

    o
    Debra Dedmon nothe CALP will bein Tahoe

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    Paulie Cannoli

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    Erin Lale Alicia did do a good job. All the times I rolled my eyes were never about how she was chairing. If she hadn’t been there we might still have been squirming along with the con well past suppertime. And that would have been an insult to an excellent cook, whoever he/she was. Next time I am skipping the convention and just coming to the eating, listening to music, and talking with fellow Libs part.

    o
    Debra Dedmon ya ,id like to add , I do not know Alicia that well , having made snap judgements in the past its my sincerest wish to judge people on their actions . I found her very nice , very fair , and at no time did I feel like she was ruling in favor of a particular side , even tho she may indeed have been on a particular side. if youve ever been in a business meeting with Silvestri than that makes her performance that much more appreciated:)

    o
    David Colborne Yeah, Alicia did a fair and even-handed job, in my opinion. In retrospect, I think Joe just didn’t want to nominate his team from the chair, which was frankly appreciated.

  7. David Colborne

    Running off of memory and posting on the road…

    Chair: Joe Silvestri
    Vice-Chair: Wayne Root
    Secretary: Kris McKinster
    Treasurer: Mike McCullough
    North Rep: Me!
    Central Rep: Sandra Darby
    South Rep: Chris Roberts
    At-Large: Irv Hopkins

    Sandra was the only one that won her position in a landslide; all other votes were within five, including the Chair race between Joe and Sandra, which Joe won by only one vote.

    It was definitely a contentious convention. In fact, in anticipation of the proceedings, Joe even stepped down from Chair of the proceedings and asked to let a professional parliamentarian (Alicia Mason) handle the duties.

  8. Robert Milnes

    I must say this Alicia Mattson person is very suspicious.
    Wasn’t she involved in Nolan’s resolution getting amended into its opposite?
    2 rightists right there to purge from party office & candidacy.
    Mattson & Root.
    Just adopt Nolan’s original resolution.=purge rightists

  9. Robert Milnes

    libertarians, one of the last things The Nolan did was to try to address the issue of Root et al with his resolution.
    It was transmuted right in front of you into its exact opposite.
    & shlortly thereafter Nolan died under what I say are very suspicious circumstances.
    When are you going to do something about all this?

  10. Mike McMahon

    @18:

    Libertarians? DO something?

    I’d like to quote Robert Milnes, when he said at 16:

    “Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, .”

  11. paulie Post author

    Running off of memory and posting on the road…

    Chair: Joe Silvestri
    Vice-Chair: Wayne Root
    Secretary: Kris McKinster
    Treasurer: Mike McCullough
    North Rep: Me!
    Central Rep: Sandra Darby
    South Rep: Chris Roberts
    At-Large: Irv Hopkins

    Sandra was the only one that won her position in a landslide; all other votes were within five, including the Chair race between Joe and Sandra, which Joe won by only one vote.

    It was definitely a contentious convention. In fact, in anticipation of the proceedings, Joe even stepped down from Chair of the proceedings and asked to let a professional parliamentarian (Alicia Mattson) handle the duties.

    Thank you for the update. I’ll update the article in a little bit if someone else does not get to it first.

  12. paulie Post author

    I must say this Alicia Mattson person is very suspicious.

    People keep saying that, but in my personal dealings with her, such as they have been, she has always been polite, very hard working, and bent over backwards to be fair.

    Wasn’t she involved in Nolan’s resolution getting amended into its opposite?

    She did propose the amendment. I don’t agree with the characterization that it gutted the motion.

  13. paulie Post author

    Mike McMahon,

    I’m a bit confused – didn’t you contact IPR to have all comments under your name or mentioning your name, including from months and years ago, removed from IPR? And if so, why would you post under your own name again at IPR shortly after that?

  14. paulie Post author

    Libertarians? DO something?

    Happens all the time. The most prominent recent example that pops into mind is James Babb and We Won’t Fly.

  15. paulie Post author

    I think this is a good thing. We’ll have an opportunity to see how (Root) handles himself and others with this new position.

    I agree.

    Although, I am very sad to see Debra Dedmon leave.

    As well as Carolyn Marbry.

  16. Gene Trosper

    @26 For the sake of clarity to all IPR readers, James Babb and George Donnelly (the fine people behind We Won’t Fly) are not affiliated with the LP and reject ballot box politics.

  17. paulie Post author

    Duensing: one vote decided chair between Silvestri and Darby.

    Darby did a lot of grassroots organizing in (Pahrump?) and got 40%+ for county commission

  18. Ayn R. Key

    paulie @ 23

    I think that removing the last paragraph, which was designed to say that officers of the Libertarian Party represent the libertarian ideology and party (as opposed to any other ideology and party) and welcome converts from all sides did strongly weaken the intent of the resolution.

    Many saw that last paragraph as the point of the resolution. Without it, the resolution becomes ‘we like mom and apple pie’.

  19. Observer

    I saw that Debra is leaving the LP, but I didn’t see why. It didn’t have anything to do with Root, did it? Doesn’t she like him?

  20. Observer

    paulie @ 25

    I was also surprised to see Mr. McMahon comment. I had the impression he was done with the LP, so why would he care?

  21. Robert Milnes

    @23 She did propose the amendment.
    Very suspicious.
    That makes her part of the camoflaged/reasonable deniability/invisible ink pipeline. LP>< GOP/Govt.
    Agents, operatives & dupes.
    Root is probably a dupe.

  22. FYI

    P @25 & O @43:

    Perhaps a story would be appropriate: “California Judicial Committee Member demands self-incriminating comments be removed from IPR under threat of subpeona”?

  23. paulie Post author

    I saw that Debra is leaving the LP, but I didn’t see why. It didn’t have anything to do with Root, did it? Doesn’t she like him?

    She didn’t like that they brought in a bunch of people she says have never been active in the state and local party until just now and put them in the leadership, voting out people that have been working hard for years.

  24. paulie Post author

    Perhaps a story would be appropriate: “California Judicial Committee Member demands self-incriminating comments be removed from IPR under threat of subpeona”?

    I have no actual knowledge of why the request was put in, just that 42 comments were trashed, including old ones.

  25. What goes around comes around

    @47 I guess that says a lot about Debra

    @12 to the posting comments. This is not aimed at Paulie. Just to the posting.
    I GUESS it bad when Karma comes back and bites you. Or did you forget doing the same to some other people yourselves.

    Debra Dedmon
    ?10 years of service and I shit you not , nothing to show for it but lost friendships and a deepseated feeling of embarrassment for having wasted so much of my time… SO FREAKING DEPRESSING

    o

    Carolyn Marbry Welcome to my world, darlin. I didn’t give them as much time as you did, but… *hugs.*

    o
    Carolyn Marbry Amazing how fast they turn on you, isn’t it?

  26. Sally Sue Voter

    Overview; the long standing active, caring, *true* libertarians in attendance at Saturday’s Nevada state Libertarian Convention were simply out-politiced. A surprising upset by 1-4 votes was common throughout the day by a slate of better organized, motivated folks who strategized long in advance starting with the surprise announcement of Alicia Mattson, parliamentarian contractor (unpaid) leading the process as reigning chair Silvestri stepped aside to facilitate his own sadly successful relection along with his *team* of helpers.

    Silvestri shocked everyone by calling-in every single one of his old political friends (long ago inactive, pissed-off Libs) relatives and affiliated relatives (McKinsters), kissed butt to Wayne Root, patted himself on the back at every chance to toot his own horn (easily accomplished as he no longer had to run a meeting having Mattson to do it) and even controlled who was credentialed personally doling out the wrist bands for voting – along with yelling, demeaning and shaming anyone along the way for not wearing their band in the appropriate manner, taking food from the breakfast table, personally attacking a Libertarian female activist running for office (oh we have *so many* women in party in the first place!) let alone not bothering to shake hands and look at people in the eyes nor certainly long standing older Libertarian ladies from Nye county who he repeatedly ran off from his typical behavior illustrated in this overly-long conjunctive sentence/paragraph.

    Any Question? Run your own show building your local group and ignore idiots running your state. Many of us will. Moral of the story – never underestimate the sheer will of trogladites and be sure to organize your own folks first turning out the vote.

    Cheers to 2013 officer elections after these turkeys fall on their faces or do nothing, Again!

    *Note – NOTHING appears on Wayne Root’s site about the state convention. Not even a crowing mention about him ‘winning’ the Vice Chair position. Allow the blow horning about Obama, Egypt, Non-mosque at non-ground-zero and a bevy of other subjects commence rather than discussing CORE Libertarian principles branding our party to the MSM.

    Time for a drink. And thank GODS there was an open bar at the Italian American club which opened BEFORE noon.

  27. David Colborne

    There were 61 credentialed delegates, though vote totals were never quite that high. There might have been a half dozen or so onlookers. As far as state conventions go in Nevada, it was quite well attended, especially for an “off year”.

  28. LibertarianGirl

    i am not leaving the LP , just done trying to change/impact or tak any part in running the local party. Ive done it a decade , I can say proudly but sadly , i voted against friends when i felt i had to , and after a decade i have no measurable progress but lots of lost friends.

    so – not – worth -it on any level for me.

  29. LibertarianGirl

    What goes around comes around // Jan 31, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    @47 I guess that says a lot about Debra

    @12 to the posting comments. This is not aimed at Paulie. Just to the posting.
    I GUESS it bad when Karma comes back and bites you. Or did you forget doing the same to some other people yourselves.

    me_ I NEVER got rid of someone i didnt thin needed to go . I will not rehash why i didnt support Duensing for Chair a cpl years back but i will say it was very painful and ruined our friendship , but i did it anyways because at the time i felt he needed to go . Joe Silvestri , until last Sat. was oone of my best friends , he had no idea i wasnt supporting him , i blindsided him , i had to vote my conscience even tho i lost yet another friend , and ya it hurts bad , but i did it

    i have no bad karma Jim for doing my job. anyone can go with the flow it takes real courage to stand up against your friends , i did it to you and i did it to silvestri and if i had to id do again . altho admittedly , im the only one who has serious emotional issues doing so. everyone else cute like a knife and never thinks twice ..

    im done now

  30. LibertarianGirl

    no i did not run . I did throw my name in for judicial commitee , which i lost along with many other longtime activists . The Jud Com , besides debra root is filled with people whose names ive never heard , whose faces ive ever seen , etc etc

  31. Sane LP Member

    @ # 47
    So what have these old-guard members in Nevada accomplished in nearly 40 years? Have they got any libertarians actually elected ? Einstein theory is kicking -in now. Same old model and expecting different results. Time to think out of the box and get er done.

  32. Fun K. Chicken

    @70 what makes you think the new officers will get anyone elected to office? FYI Nevada LP has come close to electing State Assembly members. Granted close is not a win, what makes you so sure the new group will do better?

  33. LibertarianGirl

    um .,,duh! silvestris team was better organized , just barely . Im betting the excom will be singing my tune in less than a year. people are creatures of habit

  34. Fun K. Chicken

    Of the people running for state party office this time, the one that got defeated was the one that was the most electorally successful this last year.

  35. paulie Post author

    I worked in Las Vegas in 2004 on a marijuana initiative. We would see the Nevada LP handing out brochures car to car at intersections, just randomly from driving around town, and find those same brochures in random places. I also ran into the LP crew walking across campus at UNLV. I was not looking for the Libertarians at those time, but I was finding them all over the place doing stuff to get the message out in person.

    In many years of traveling around the country and working in the majority of US States I have not seen LPs be so active. Most LPs seem content to sit back and wait for people to come to them. They might do some media/events from time to time, but not like this, going out in the general public and physically handing out tens of thousands of pieces of LP literature.

  36. LibertarianGirl

    that was a collective effort ( Jim D and Joe S we’re the best of friends at the time ) but there was really a core of about 8 people that did the work of around 50. at the end , joe and jim were enemys , jim had lost a job and joe got a divorce , the rest of us suffered burnout and have never recovered…

    but still , we fucking kicked ass in 06 and 08

  37. paulie Post author

    that would be 90,000 passed out by hand , how the fuck we did that in 110 degree temps is unbeievable

    Yeah! I’m in awe.

  38. @56 TO LG

    Things were done to other people other than the ones you mentioned on your post, me personally, I am not for Jim Duensing. But without going into details. You and some other along with you did some unnecessary things. So in turn things comes back to bite you.

  39. LibertarianGirl

    oh please do!!!!!! i have done many things i did not like , but under rules of bylaws and other such things were IMO necessary .I can defend whatever you throw at me , so im actually bored and begging you ****** , please , do tell…

  40. LibertarianGirl

    in other news , i wonder why wayne hasnt issued a release delaring his new position w/in the state. I mean i know it isnt a BIG DEAL , but you’d think he might be a little proud …

  41. paulie Post author

    oh please do!!!!!! i have done many things i did not like , but under rules of bylaws and other such things were IMO necessary .I can defend whatever you throw at me , so im actually bored and begging you ****** , please , do tell…

    There is only one way to settle this fair and square.

    And that is with an eye gouging, hair pulling, slap and spit, scratch and claw cat fight.

    😛

  42. LibertarianGirl

    i prefer elbows to the clavicle but whatever , the person lodging accusations is nothing more than a bystander and an annoyance at whatever LP event she attends. She had 3rd hand knowledge at best and has never been “in the loop” with anyone or anything , she is othing but a nuisance…

    ( makes catfight noise)

  43. Observer

    LG @ 85: “I wonder why wayne hasnt issued a release delaring his new position w/in the state.”

    I’d be willing to bet it’s because he is VICE-chair in Nevada instead of Chair, and it sounds substantially less important than his other position, the Chair of LNCC, which people out of the party would take to mean he’s chair of the entire Libertarian party.

  44. LibertarianGirl

    Observer , perhaps , altho he was never seeking chair . months ago when silvestri was putting a slate together of people that will agree with him all the time Waynes name is on the list . and I dont mean that in a disrespectful way at Wayne , just that its quid -pro-quo between the 2 of them.

    frankly , id much rather have Wayne as Chair if I HAD to choose between the two.

  45. LibertarianGirl

    and i think at least w/in LP circles it would bear good weight for Wayne to tout it . There are some people who think he is only self promoting and only cares about the big important posistions . in fact ive heard lots of people down him BECA– USE he never served on his state board. So just like when he accepted At -Large after he lost National Chair , and how everyone was impressed with his willingness to serve in a lesser capacity . Within LP circles , touting his new posistion could win him some support. of course thats just my opinion

  46. Observer

    What you said in 90 makes sense, LG, and you definitely know him better than I do. Perhaps it was an oversight that he didn’t post the news on his website.

  47. paulie Post author

    Random video to amuse you while we wait.

    Or, you could also amuse yourself by going through as many IPR articles as possible and using the new icons to submit them to social networks 🙂

  48. @87 To LG

    A weak and noisy response, full of much bluster and little intellectual firepower. Particularly humorous, as this little girl has absolutely no idea who she makes physical threats against.

  49. paulie Post author

    Yes, yes, but in the meantime…

    #

    @56 TO LG // Feb 2, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Things were done to other people other than the ones you mentioned on your post, me personally, I am not for Jim Duensing. But without going into details. You and some other along with you did some unnecessary things. So in turn things comes back to bite you.
    #

    82 Fun K. Chicken // Feb 2, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    Could you be more specific? Examples, instances. etc?
    #

    83 paulie // Feb 2, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    That would be interesting to read.
    #

    84 LibertarianGirl // Feb 4, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    oh please do!!!!!! i have done many things i did not like , but under rules of bylaws and other such things were IMO necessary .I can defend whatever you throw at me , so im actually bored and begging you ****** , please , do tell…

    So….how about those details?

  50. LibertarianGirl

    she has no details , only stories overheard 2nd and 3rd hand , she’s a pain in the ass to every Libertarian who doesnt have the time to indulge her obsessive phone calls and crazy need to insert herself into shit thats none of her business. betcha 10 bucks she’s called the Northern chair or someone to complain about im being mean …lol

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  52. Thar name Johnnie

    Is this R a political site or date chatty place. har har. Libertarian Girly wines about losing friends, insults other people, my guess by her chat doesn’t really know them, and then cries bout where she at. Not sure she realize she make an arse of harself. Har har. Maybe we’ll hear wedding bells between Paulie and Libertarian Girly soon. Next chapter.

    If I get chatted to and me don’t answer. sorry bout that. I do have real business to run. Can’t sit all day and dally on this.

    Probably good thing she left.

  53. paulie Post author

    Is this R a political site or date chatty place.

    Both. As far as the political site aspect goes, the part that would be relevant to you is that when you said

    Things were done to other people other than the ones you mentioned on your post, me personally, I am not for Jim Duensing. But without going into details. You and some other along with you did some unnecessary things.

    What specifically were you referring to?

    If you don’t want to tell us, that is on you.

    Naturally some people may assume that you got nothing and are talking out of your rear end.

    They may be right or they may be wrong, but unless and until you make with the details, we’ll never know.

    As for what you call the “date chatty” stuff…all work and no play makes Paulie a dull boy, and IPR a dull read.

  54. Thar name Johnnie

    Yur Paulie, me personally, I am not for Jim Duensing,

    Where that come from?

    No need tell me, don care. One of your regular frm CA pointed this site out. Funny how that got brought up.

    Nevr thought this group was tiny. Har har

  55. paulie Post author

    Yes, I know you are not Jim Duensing. I also do know your actual first name. And I know you are paranoid about having it posted here, so I’m not doing that. I also know that we have talked on the phone. I was working in New Mexico when you called.

    You can play games all day, or you can supply the details of what you were alluding to.

    Or say nothing, and leave people with the impression that you might not have anything to back up what you said.

    It’s really all up to you.

    Play it any way you want……

  56. Thar name Johnnie

    can’t answer question I reckon ment for someone else >105, took a time to fiugre that out.

    Favor was done for someone in CA.

    guess ya ll keep playing yur game.

    Have a nice day.

  57. Matt Cholko

    TK – Are you certain that Crashproof Prosperity is MLM? It certainly looks like a less than worthwhile service, but I can’t see any evidence that it is MLM, aside from it employing a known MLM scumbag.

  58. paulie Post author

    Nice try. I can see your IP address.

    You’ve posted under a number of different names from the same IP. You’ve posted from other IPs with the same email address you used on some of the comments from the same IP you just posted from (yes, yes, I know, it’s a big office and a lot of people there all post at IPR).

    And you’ve posted from other IPs and put down different email addresses and I knew right away without looking that it was you. Then I checked and of course I was right. Your style is very easy to recognize, except that sometimes I think you cut and paste from elsewhere without attribution.

    Hey, you don’t have to answer. It’s all good.

  59. Thar name Johnnie

    Just so u know, ur going to end up saying sorry to that person for mistaking. I know all about IP address. what I do, computer geek. maybe I send u my business card when you need fixing your website to help you better with ID’s.

  60. paulie Post author

    It’s not my website, but it’s still you. I don’t even need IP addresses. Your style is easy to recognize.

  61. Oh, Brother.

    Feel free to check this posting IP address. If you tell me this is the same one as the other posting, then I know you do not have the proper equipment to know which IP address is which and just making things up as you go along.

    I am not going to comment or get into this discussion going on here. I am just letting you know that you can get a direct IP addresses, or the area of the IP address without the actual IP address of that computer. Paulie did you know IP addresses can be re-routed all together so you can’t trace it back to the actual computer?

    I find it funny you gave me more credit than I deserve. Paulie just so you know. I find more interest in dealing with people who are college educated, Masters and doctorate degrees, and anyone that personally knows me will confirm this. Some people in the LP party know of me, and whatever things they would like to share they can conclude. But they don’t know me personally, anymore than you do.

  62. paulie Post author

    Feel free to check this posting IP address. If you tell me this is the same one as the other posting, then I know you do not have the proper equipment to know which IP address is which and just making things up as you go along.

    LOLOL….see, yes you see, you leave way more bread crumbs than just an IP address. I already know you post from more than one IP.

    You already posted from the same one as this last comment on another thread.

    After a while your pattern is very easy to recognize. Like I said, I don’t even have to check the IP addresses and what you fill in as your email…I recognize you immediately just from what everyone else here can see, and whenever I check just to make sure, I find that I am correct.

    Paulie did you know IP addresses can be re-routed all together so you can’t trace it back to the actual computer?

    Yep, I know way more than you realize.

    I find more interest in dealing with people who are college educated, Masters and doctorate degrees, and anyone that personally knows me will confirm this.

    Yeah, I’m college educated. Even had a perfect score on the verbal portion of my SATs. Not that this makes me smarter than some very uneducated people I have known, who are/were a hell of a lot smarter than some of the most educated people I have known with numerous degrees to their name.

    Oops, I see we already have.

    Now, I know that you said you are too busy to explain the details of what you were alluding to previously…but that can’t be, since you obviously have plenty of time to try to convince me that you are someone else.

    So, either make with the details, or refer back to my prior statement on that subject.

  63. Ok, Now I know

    I will make clear in case there was a miscommunication. I posted on this thread today, one time. Period.

    if I wanted to do the re-router, I would just do it and not bother saying anything, or didn’t you realize that? You really want to know some things about me other than assumption from a computer.

    Pick up the phone and call me rather than hide behind this computer.

    Otherwise I am done talking.

  64. paulie Post author

    I will make clear in case there was a miscommunication. I posted on this thread today, one time. Period.

    Yeah, someone else has your unique writing style and puts the exact same type of jumble of letters @aol as you for your email address.

    if I wanted to do the re-router, I would just do it and not bother saying anything, or didn’t you realize that?

    Um, duh, but I’d still recognize you. Didn’t I just say that 3-4 times? All you are doing is repeating yourself and further proving that your previous excuse for not providing details to back up your claims further up the thread – lack of time – was a lame cover for, well, not providing the details. Is it because there are none, or some other reason? Well, that remains to be seen.

    You really want to know some things about me other than assumption from a computer.

    Is that a statement or a question? If it’s a question, the answer is no, not really. However, if you have any details to back up your allegations against Debra, I would like to hear those.

    Pick up the phone and call me rather than hide behind this computer.

    Well, for starters, I don’t have your number. You always called me from a blocked number every time.

    Second, this is a public discussion and you posted a public allegation about someone I know, but left it vague. Several people asked you for the specifics, not just me. If you have any, please post them in the same public forum where you already started to make them – here. If you don’t, well, hey, it’s all good.

    Oh, and I’m not hiding.

    Otherwise I am done talking.

    You can be done any time you want. Like I said several rounds back…

    You can play games all day, or you can supply the details of what you were alluding to.

    Or say nothing, and leave people with the impression that you might not have anything to back up what you said.

    It’s really all up to you.

  65. LibertarianGirl

    first of all someone owes me $10 , the ca reg she refers to rhymes with ‘loose snowin’ , and the hr har thing is really only half-ass witty the 1st time , trying to hard the 2nd and the 3rd , well I rest my case…lol

  66. paulie Post author

    the ca reg she refers to rhymes with ‘loose snowin’ ,

    Yeah, I knew that. They had a “falling out” is what I heard. He said, she said…

  67. Andy

    “LibertarianGirl // Feb 2, 2011 at 1:58 am

    that would be 90,000 passed out by hand , how the fuck we did that in 110 degree temps is unbeievable”

    I was in Las Vegas, Nevada for a few weeks from October-November of 2004. I was there working on a petition to place an initiative on the ballot that would have legalized up to one ounce of marijuana for adults 21 and over. While I was there I can into members of the Clark County Libertarian Party at several locations, one of which was the University of Nevada in Las Vegas. I saw the brochure they were handing out and I told them that I’d hand them out while I gathered signatures for the marijuana petition if they game me some. They gave me 200 brochures and I handed every one of them out.

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