Root: Reason Mag Interview – WAR’s Presidential Future

Reason.TV Inteview

Wayne Allyn Root is a former Libertarian Vice Presidential nominee. He now serves as Chairman of the Libertarian National Congressional Committee. He is the best-selling author of “The Conscience of a Libertarian: Empowering the Citizen Revolution with God, Guns, Gold & Tax Cuts.” His web site: www.ROOTforAmerica.com

31 thoughts on “Root: Reason Mag Interview – WAR’s Presidential Future

  1. Carol Moore, Washington DC

    July. Isn’t that old news? So when is Wayne going to announce? And is he going to boast about all the members he brought in as a member of the outreach committee (any at all?) and all the money he brought in as head of the LNCC (less than he brought in in his campaign for chair?)???

  2. Robert Capozzi

    Reason just posted the interview today.

    If anything, Root is “walking back” from a run, esp. in 2012. He’s talking about getting close in 2016, getting elected in 2020. He’s also mentioning the senate seat in NV.

    My takeaway is that his near-term focus is on media punditry, not elective office.

  3. Concerned Chuck (Mike Gravel is Lord!)

    Libertarians need to be asking Mike Gravel to run, not used car salesman and abortionist Wayne Allen/Allyn Root! Mike Gravel promises to bring mindkind in to a new age of peace free of homosexual Catholics and Jewish Mormons! Wayne Root promises to abort your child! Who will you choose???

  4. Wayne Root

    @1 Carol,

    I promised to change the LP culture and I already have. You’ll soon see an announcement of the new LNCC web site, which I am proud to say is as professional as any political web site in the country.

    In one day recently, I’m also proud to report the LNCC raised $25,000.

    As far as Nevada, the Nevada LP now has more twitter followers than the Nevada GOP and Dems combined.

    I’d say things are changing.

    As soon as the LNCC web site is officially up, we’ll begin a major national fundraising campaign.

    This ‘aint your father’s LP anymore.

    Best,

    Wayne

  5. Kleptocracy And You

    They’ve changed the ad. It was Wayne in living color in an ads for his service. Said CNBC calls him the KING of Vegas Odds…etc.

    It was surely seen by thousands if not millions…

  6. LibertarianGirl

    Wayne , do you care to answer why the LPN excom took $500 from member david coleborne for a booth at LPAC , then failed to purchase the booth , failed to et him know why and failed to refund the money?

  7. Darryl W. Perry

    I’m curious how many donors were involved in giving $25,000. Was it 5 donors giving $5,000 each? Ten donors, averaging $2,500? Or something more grassroots, and over 100 donors averaging less than $250, each?

  8. Wayne Root

    @9

    No idea. First I’ve ever heard of it.

    As I’m sure you’re aware, I don’t get involved in day to day details of Nevada LP. I do 20 to 40 media appearances a week, run LNCC, and run multiple businesses. My hands are pretty full!

    I don’t see checks coming in…nor would I know about purchase of booths.

    I want to build members and brand the party.

    But you can bet I will check on this immediately and find out what it is about and what happened.

    I’ll let you know as soon as I know.

    Thanks Debra for bringing it to my attention.

    Wayne

  9. LibertarianGirl

    Wayne I do know you are beyond busy with things far more important that the day to day running of the LPN. The reason I singled you out , frankly is because i knew you would actually respond….

    Its been brought to my attention there was a change in Treasurers in the time period this task should have been completed. The previous Treasurer Michael would hav ben tasked with this job as he cuts the checks and accesses the P.O box , additionally he was on the call when the decision to purchase the booth was decided.

    Its now my opinion , that with Joe in NY for the summer and Michael McCauliffes failure to perform his duties and subsequent replacement, that the task was simply lost in the shuffle.

    however , i will say this , I dont think RP will get the nomination , so once again his fervent supporters will be politically homeless and looking for something/someone to beleive in.

    they should be ours by default , their votes and their money. But as you know ( and no fault of yours) we no only missed but pissed away and wasted that opportunity in 2008. Barr and his team ( save you as you’ve made clear you were not allowed to plow ahead full steam and were marginalized ) made the biggest mistake in terms of large scale , grassroots support in snubbing Paul.

    I find you to be far more savvy than that and would hope you could find some time to impress , covet and win support from those folks.

    I just thought it sad not 1 LP booth , local , national or otherwise had a presence there..

  10. Steven Wilson

    I will not direct this towards anyone in particular. But this thread agains brings up something important.

    Branding a product is one thing, but first you must decide if the product needs branding.

    If we speak of freedom, then branding a party as such is illogical.

    Branding is also dangerous when it is done single point. For example in real time. The PGA branded itself with one person. Tiger Woods. And it worked as long as the brand persona was maintained. When it wasn’t, thud.

    I have no right to tell people what to do, but I will not tolerate people telling me what I know. Branding freedom is a mistake, no matter who does it.

    When branding goes wrong, it ends with a stigma. A stigma is negative and situational.

    As a source of reference for myself, I have no connection to the national nor the new movement out of Ohio (The commerce Libertarians). I have no intention of turning America into a bank or a company.

  11. Robert Capozzi

    15 sw: Branding a product is one thing, but first you must decide if the product needs branding. If we speak of freedom, then branding a party as such is illogical.

    me: I can’t say I agree. Any time we engage in marketing, including ideas, there is branding and positioning going on. One could consciously attempt to establish a certain reputation, or allow others to do so for you…pot-smoking Republicans might be an example.

    The PGA has put forth many of its leading figures over the years, Arnold Palmer, Jack Nicklaus, and Tiger. My guess is they’ll survive the Woods setback.

    I’d not heard that OH Ls want to turn the US into a bank or company. Please share who has made that case…

  12. Robert Capozzi

    more…

    SW, do you have a problem with the LP logo, too? Do you think the statue of liberty somehow confuses the message?

  13. Robert Capozzi

    sw, also, help us understand how branding a party is “illogical”? The logic escapes me….

  14. Carol Moore, Washington DC

    @#6 Wayne Root: I promised to change the LP culture and I already have. You’ll soon see an announcement of the new LNCC web site, which I am proud to say is as professional as any political web site in the country. In one day recently, I’m also proud to report the LNCC raised $25,000.

    So it takes a year to get a website up? I wonder how “soon” soon is?? Plus I attended LNC meeting in the spring where you reported doing nothing as a member of the Outreach Committee. A search of news.google shows besides mentions you were 2008 VP candidates, there’s no evidence you support the LP. Web search only shows libertarian sites discussion your relation to the party. It’s one thing to proclaim something is true. It’s another to prove it.

  15. Steven Wilson

    The branding of a product is a market existence. If there is no market, then there is no product, thusly, no need to brand.

    Your group persona is not a brand.

    When there is competition, the one thing companies fear hearing from the customer base is, ” I had no idea you were still in business”.

    This is called “decay”.

    The product or business has no presence within the market. Marketing is derived from the kind of product and or firm it came from. It is illogical to move outside of your category without reason.

    Just imagine, a person promotes a shotgun as a sleep aid. Or maybe, you brand a line of ovens as winter boot warmers.

    Now, if the company illustrates how to use these things as they are promoted, the firm is selling the relationship. For the stakeholders, this may seem at first to make no sense, but once the firm proves that a shotgun blast to the head puts you to sleep, or that a oven can heat up anything if given time, then the company has started to brand itself as it has branded the product.

    If there is competition within sleep aids or boot warmer devices, the entry of a gun or a oven respectively will seem out of place.

    Brand comparison, Pepsi or Coke, makes sense because it is branding within a category the stakeholders understanding inherently. NO explanation, no misunderstanding.

    When you market freedom, how does one do this in a republic with multiple parties?

    By illustrating how people are not free presently. Our brand of freedom will last longer and won’t impact your blood sugar levels.

    There is no negative format for branding.

    I use the term commerce libertarians as I have heard and seen LIBs from Ohio that are now top down, central planners, business planners, cookie cutter, must have a suit, must have a plan, Libertarians. Somewhat like Nevada, but with greater numbers and talking points about talking points.

    It is a language game I play when people start central planning. It is nothing diabolical. Just funny.

    Add water and wait ten minutes for talking points to form.

  16. Don Lake, strategically ..........

    Carol Moore, Washington DC // Sep 21, 2011 at 10:30LibertarianGirl // Sep 20, 2011 at 8:44 pm
    If the LPN owes somebody $500 they should just take the LPN to small claims court. I’ve gone several times and always won. Don’t let them get away with it.

    Lake: unless they dodge ‘service’ [like California Deform Party and John Blare and Valli Sharpe Giesler]

  17. paulie

    If there is no market, then there is no product, thusly, no need to brand.

    Unless you live as a hermit, there is always a market, regardless of whether it is for profit, non-profit or just a market for ideas.

  18. LibertarianGirl

    Carol Moore , I disagree. Even after the purging and everything that has happened i just would not invoke a move like that on even former allies.

    Jim Burns did that once and we were a remnant for a long time after…

    I just want the bullshit to stop , I want us to quit being divided and conquered and I want to move forward…

    I really dont want to be any part of the huge waste of energy that fight would take…

  19. Robert Capozzi

    24 sw: Your group persona is not a brand.

    me: Groups or individuals deliver a service. U2 deliver of a service known as music, with a certain sound that some find uplifting or moving. Ls provide service of undoing the State (at least in theory) and allowing freedom to ring. Both have brands whether they know it consciously or not.

    sw: The product or business has no presence within the market. Marketing is derived from the kind of product and or firm it came from. It is illogical to move outside of your category without reason.

    me: This is novel. Products, businesses or services are often categorized by “buyers” as delivering X, Y or Z. Sometimes, a business does move outside its category…Apple, f’rinstance, moved from Macs to Ipods to Iphones to Ipads. That’s worked out for them, I’d say, pretty darned well.

    sw: Just imagine, a person promotes a shotgun as a sleep aid. Or maybe, you brand a line of ovens as winter boot warmers.

    me: Such brand extension would, on its face, likely NOT work out so well.

    sw: Brand comparison, Pepsi or Coke, makes sense because it is branding within a category the stakeholders understanding inherently. NO explanation, no misunderstanding.

    me: Both companies have extended their brands outside of cola drinks.

    sw: When you market freedom, how does one do this in a republic with multiple parties?

    me: The $64,000 question!

    sw: By illustrating how people are not free presently. Our brand of freedom will last longer and won’t impact your blood sugar levels.

    me: Yes, one arrow in the quiver.

    sw: There is no negative format for branding.

    me: I don’t know what this means. Branding represents a positive, and does not represent a negative. By extension, undoing the State represents a positive, kind of like insurance. Peace of mind flows in the absence of a negative. We all know this, deep down…

  20. Carol Moore, Washington DC

    People have a right not to sue, of course, and just lose their money. So what is the status of LPN? Any local meetings or activity at all any more? Want to see how the “Wayne Root” method of organization works.

  21. LibertarianGirl

    good and bad… there are things that are better and things that are worse….the money is dire due to the deaffiliation as clark county usually raised the most money and in turn would pay most of the expenses…Sandy Darbi – Central Rep and not a Silvestri follower has resigned , going the way of so many others , concluding working with the LP is a waste of time. her husband is an elected LPer in Nye county.

    Treasurer Michael MaCauliffe was replaced or resigned due to what Ive heard our personal problems dealing with his federal indictment over his med pot dispensary.

    Wayne Root continues to be extremely busy with his nationwide stuff yet suprisingly the only person to ever answer a grievance…go figure.

    Joe Hassen , new Treasurer , is a VERY competent and nice guy… I have good feelings about him.

    and thats about all I know . All 3 counties continue to pursue activism and champion liberty in a myriad of ways ,

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