Former NBA Star Tim Hardaway signs Our America Initiative equal marriage petition

Contact: Joe Hunter





Miami, FL, July 3, 2013 –– Former NBA star Tim Hardaway will be one of the first  to sign an initiative petition to place an equal marriage constitutional amendment on the Florida ballot next year.

Hardaway’s petition signing will be open to the news media.


Time: 7:00 p.m. ET

Location: Scully’s Tavern, 9809 Sunset Dr, Miami, FL 33173

Filed June 21 by Equal Marriage Florida, the Equal Marriage initiative would amend the Florida  Constitution to simply define marriage as a “union of two persons”, while also granting protections of religious freedoms by stating that no religious organization can be required to officiate a marriage to which it objects.

About Governor Gary Johnson: A two-term governor of New Mexico from 1995-2003, Gary Johnson has been a consistent advocate for limited, efficient government and personal liberty. As the Libertarian candidate for President in 2012, he received more votes than any Libertarian candidate in history. An outspoken pro-Constitution libertarian, Johnson opposes American involvement in foreign conflicts with no clear U.S. interest. He opposes the failed multi-billion dollar war on drugs and demands greater transparency at the Federal Reserve. Johnson advocates cutting federal spending dramatically to achieve a balanced budget and make government live within its means without raising taxes. He believes real job creation and economic opportunity can be best achieved through smaller government and less regulation. The National Review rated Johnson as “#1” in job creation as governor. An avid skier and bicyclist, he has reached the highest peaks on five of the seven continents, including Mount Everest and, recently, Aconcagua in Argentina.
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Hardaway gained controversy for the following statement in February 2007, which prompted a series of apologies from him afterwards as well involvement in LBGT youth suicide prevention activism:

“You know, I hate gay people, so I let it be known. I don’t like gay people and I don’t like to be around gay people. I am homophobic. I don’t like it. It shouldn’t be in the world or in the United States.”

Here is some coverage of Hardaway signing the petition from  The Huffington Post.

36 thoughts on “Former NBA Star Tim Hardaway signs Our America Initiative equal marriage petition

  1. Gary Watch

    So, is Gary Johnson trying to claim credit for this or something?

    I see Gary’s c4 issuing a press release about an NBA player signing another c4’s petition… and then a bio of Gary that’s about twice as long as the news.

    Is Gary putting some actual $$$ into this petition drive or something? If not, how is this even an IPR story and not just a PR nonstory?

  2. paulie

    According to the press releases I have received, Our America Initiative is running this initiative campaign and a similar one in Arizona.

  3. Gary Watch

    As it says and links in the article, the petition drive in florida is run by an org named “Equal Marriage Florida” — not “Our America Initiative.”

    If the two orgs are linked in any formal manner (and not just PR), this hasn’t been explicitly reported anywhere that I’ve seen.

  4. Joe Wendt

    I’m not even sure how this petition would bring equal marriage. Polygamy would still be illegal, how does this petition drive affect those in a polygynous or polyandrous relationships? It doesn’t. This has nothing to do with equality, this has everything to do with a liberal agenda to put government in charge of holy sacrament it has no business being involved in. Separate Church and State: leave marriage to the religious institutions, and the government out of the marriage business.

  5. paulie

    As it says and links in the article, the petition drive in florida is run by an org named “Equal Marriage Florida” — not “Our America Initiative.”

    I guess I wasn’t clear the first time? As I told you earlier, I have been receiving numerous forwards from Our America Initiative about this, and they have made clear that they are involved with this effort – perhaps in partnership with other organizations, perhaps not. Likewise the one in Arizona. I don’t know what you have seen and what you haven’t, but I’ve been getting numerous messages from OAI about this, including fundraising appeals.

  6. paulie

    I’m not even sure how this petition would bring equal marriage.

    Ending sexual orientation discrimination. Duh!

    Polygamy would still be illegal,

    Well, yeah. That battle is not politically ripe yet, just as the battle for gay marriage rights was not politically ripe 40 years ago, when the marriage equality battle was about “interracial” marriage. Nevertheless, Loving vs Virginia was a big step for marriage equality.

    put government in charge of

    Government is involved in marriage and its involvement is not about to go away soon. There’s no “put” involved, just a political fight to end massive government discrimination.

    While government grants marriages to heterosexuals it is imperative that it also do so to homosexuals. That is a political issue in the here and now, unlike polygamy or separating marriage and state.

  7. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Mr. Wendt – The power of government is being used to legalize homosexual marriage so that the REAL purpose of legalizing it can then be achieved – to use the force of government to indoctrinate all children in the public schools ( starting in kindergarten ) to accept, promote, endorse, and participate in the perversion of homosexuality.

    I have described this attack at

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. watching the attack of the New World Order on the children of America ( and the whole world ) unfold with countless supporters – including those at IPR

  8. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Mr. Wendt – The first phase of the attack upon children ( following legalization of pervert marriage in California ) is already under way with the passage by the legislature of the ” bathroom bill ” which only waits for the Governors signature.

    This bill will mandate that boys or girls ( those soul sick enough to call themselves ” transgender ” ) must be allowed to use the opposite sexes bathrooms and showers whenever they may wish to do so.

    The objective is to begin breaking down the Christian moral foundations of the nation and especially of the children ( far more than they have already been shattered ) so that the Socially Engineered children will be easy targets for the ultimate aim of the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement – their molestation at any time, for any reason, and by anyone and this once the laws against such crimes are scrapped and replaced with those desired by the New World Order, its subdivision of the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement, and singular supporters such as paulie, Jill P., and so many other sick sick disciples of this monstrous Movement.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. watching the attack against the children of our nation advance every day

    P.S. – Remember this as you can ” bank on it ” – the exact same argument/claim for ” ending sexual orientation discrimination ” will be used by the child molestors ( google B4U-ACT to confirm this ) when they finally and openly move to legalize molestation and it will be used by the exact same people – paulie and all of the other anti-Christian mutants here at IPR and beyond.

    It will be sick then just as it is sick now but it will be a keystone argument for those who use it to attempt to sanitize ( under the cover of ” civil rights ” ) their real, and utterly monstrous, goals which I have described at

  9. Joe Wendt

    Government shouldn’t be involved in marriage, period. Marriage should be left to individuals and the religion of their choice. The government shouldn’t define marriage in any shape or form. If you want a civil ceremony, call it a civil union, domestic partnership, butt buddies (South Park reference), whatever. If you want a Church Ceremony, that’s a marriage. Hell, if the government left marriage to religious institutions, we wouldn’t have this problem with “marriage equality” in the first place.

  10. paulie

    Yes, yes, and if Santa Claus gave everyone a free pony it would be great too. In the meantime, there’s the real world.

  11. Steven Berson

    Contrary to popular misconception Government is NOT involved “marriage” as the word is applied to declarations of supposedly permanent spiritual and/or familial bonds between two or more people – which may or may not also comprise other contracted elements between these individuals – which also may or may not have a religious institution or other community appointed as arbitrator and enforcer of said contract. These things are indeed available at any time to individuals who wish to do them – simply don’t inform or ask permission of the State and just do it and you’re done.

    Instead Government IS involved in allowing some classes of people to appoint it as an arbitrator and enforcer of a standardized simple legal contract also confusingly called “marriage” that has some elements of the which can potentially involve enforcement of this contract onto those who are not the specific ones who have actually entered this contract – i.e. the ability to appoint some one as the one to be able to direct your care or have guardianship of children when you are incapacitated. At this point this standard form contract for some gets enforced within all 50 States – for others is only available within a few States – and for others depending on residency is not available at all.

    There are also a number of elements of this standard form contract which in tax burden may or may not penalize or privilege those who have entered it relative to single individuals.

    To Ultra-Radical Centrists the simple and relatively inexpensive way of creating a “next of kin” designation that gets honored across all 50 States that Government “marriage licenses” offer enables a level of security and stability that does benefit the individuals who wish to enter it and society in general – so is in fact a rightful role of government – and should be an option available to all who wish to enter this, as specified by equal protection clause of Section 1 of the 14th Amendment to the US Constitution.

    However – Ultra-Radical Centrists see the inequities and complexities in tax codes that see single individuals or married individuals having their earning confiscated in differing amounts for the same levels of incomes IS in fact arbitrary discrimination and in a more just system would be ended.

  12. Steven Berson

    Paulie – true on that! However a number of them – such as government courts arbitrating alimony – effect primarily the specific people who have entered the “marriage” contract – where as a number of them – such as the ability to automatically gain hospital visitation rights, or to designate an heir to your property – are things which require people external to the contract to cooperate with the wishes of those signing the contract – a requirement that in some cases may need a larger group capable of enforcing these wishes (aka “government”) to exist if the society wishes to have these wishes more consistently honored.

    The bigger question for people is whether contracts that contain “externalized” elements is a rightful thing for governments to enforce. The advocate for a truly stateless society would say no – where as a centrist that wants to see our society go towards a more voluntary direction would still say yes in specific cases such as designating “next of kin”.

  13. paulie

    Dogma aside, society as well as government is moving in the direction of accepting gay marriage, and that process will continue – it will not be reversed.

  14. Steven Berson

    I agree!

    It does work nicely to provoke guys like Don Grundmann here – who seems so obsessed with what other people do with their sex lives that I suspect he really wants some man on man lovin’ himself and is just too shamed by his upbringing to admit it – to post entertaining streams of words though. 😛

  15. paulie

    Yes, it has some limited entertainment value. Otherwise, I just will do whatever I can to help associate the LP with this winning issue and help us make some inroads with people some of whom will become supporters (no, obviously not all or a huge percent, but we don’t need a huge percent to increase our ranks tremendously compared to now).

  16. Steven Berson

    I agree! Obviously I’m an “incrementalist” myself who thinks that the various “marriage equality” referendums happening in the various States and the overturning of DOMA and Proposition are in fact great things towards more people gaining equal protection under the law and well worth the LP supporting – and in fact is indeed one of the issues that makes me continue as a supporting member of the LP.

  17. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Mr. Berson @ #17 – It is unfortunate that you, like so many others opposing my perspectives here at IPR, are such a fool and that you additionally, as they also and forever do, distort what I am presenting.

    Whatever perverts do in their time I have no care about. I do care to an extremely great degree when they work to warp public policy, and especially through the school system, to attack the children of the nation by indoctrinating them into the pathology of homosexuality; a war against our nation which I have documented at

    Of course that is the REAL objective of both the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement and its singular supporters such as paulie and yourself – the indoctrination of children to accept, endorse, promote, and participate in homosexuality; i.e.; to mentally and emotionally molest children to set them up to accept physical molestation.

    The ” incrementalism ” which you refer to will, progressively, lead to the legalization of polygamy, incest, bestiality, and child molestation itself as all will be claimed by the paulies of the nation to be ” civil rights.” This is ( as paulie delights in ) ” inevitable ” given the ever deepening corruption of the citizens of the nation such as yourself who will, when the time comes, provide absolutely no opposition to the ” achievement ” of the above objectives of the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement and will in fact completely endorse their attainment at every step.

    All laws which were enacted to protect children, women, and the family itself will be swept aside as part of the comprehensive campaign to eradicate all Christian morality from the nation and this under all of the Social Engineering terms which will be used to sanitize the evil such as ” civil rights ” ( for child molestors ) and ” tolerance ” ( for the same ).

    The surface excuse of paulie and so many others is ” marriage equality, ” civil rights,” yada, yada, yada. This is in fact #2 to the #1 and REAL objective of erasing all traces of Christianity, most specifically morality, from our society, culture, and nation with special emphasis upon attacking children to accomplish this objective.

    Hence it all boils down to a religious war between REAL Christians ( not and never complete fakes like Jill P. ) and their anti-Christian opponents as so well illustrated by in Texas recently by the cries of ” Hail, Satan!!! ” by those who, in addition to their support of ” marriage equality,” love the shredding mutilation death of children via abortion.

    It is a tragedy that you, as with so many others, have grown up to become a cog in the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement war machine against the future of our nation and humanity as a whole.

    But then from your view, like that of the zombies of ” World War Z,” biting and spreading death is as natural, and more so, as breathing.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C, watching the wimps/males happily spread their plague of death

  18. William Saturn

    Mr. Grundmann,

    I am currently doing an extensive and neutral review of the CandleCrusade website. My goal is to find a common ground.

  19. From Der Sidelines

    Would someone PLEASE find Solomo-Don Grundy a male hooker so he can get laid and release all his pent-up gay sexual repression before he pops a vein?

    Pretty please?

  20. Gary Watch

    @5 — If Gary Johnson sent you a press release claiming credit for the sun rising in the East, would you republish that uncritically as well?

  21. paulie

    @24 Do you have some evidence that the money OAI is raising for this is not going to its intended purpose?

  22. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Mr. Saturn @ #22 – I welcome and look forward to your comments and perspectives especially since the very idea of ” neutral ” is, unfortunately, a martian language idea; i.e.; totally alien; to so many commenters here at IPR. I additionally comment you for actually reading the text as so many here at IPR dismiss the site totally no matter how many events and/or facts which I put in it and even claim that many of the events which I have documented there; i.e.; I have reported on and not created the events; did not happen.

    I hope that this note finds you well.

    Best to you,

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

  23. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Concerned Citizen @ #27 – One of the beginning, and still in extensive use to this day as you can note above, methods of the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement in their Social engineering attack against the nation is to claim that anyone opposing their soul pathology in any way is in fact themselves a closeted homosexual who is denying their real nature by opposing the perverts; i.e.; you ( the opposer ) have the problem and I ( the pervert ) don’t.

    You will hear this claim/screech EVERY time that perverts are opposed in ANY way as it is a ” first line ” attempt to silence those who challenge them which is then followed by more advanced attacks/methods such as ” you are a ” hater,” you are ” homophobic,” etc. This is simply one of the more important manifestations of Social Engineering where language is used as a weapon in the war against humanity with a concentration upon claiming that all normal, healthy, and wholesome aspects of society, culture, and nation ( nuclear family with the father as the head of the household as just one example ) are pathological while everything that is truly sick ( homosexuality itself but inclusive of sub-divisions within the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement of child molesting, urinating upon each other, ingesting feces, ” glory holes,” mutilating themselves to imitate the opposite sex, and many other pathologies ) is normal and natural.

    Hence you can observe feminized ( soul defective, infected, and inferior ) men; i.e.; males/femen; such as From Der Sidelines, paulie, and endless others use such standard attack methods for the primary purpose ( above their secondary purpose of stopping their challengers ) which they are always used – to deflect criticism from the pathologies and evils which they express, believe in, promote, and seek to infect others ( especially children ) with.

    Perhaps you can gain an unfortunate ( due to the tragedy of their living death; a horror which shows that there indeed are some things which are worse than death ) sense of the extensiveness of the blessings of our Creator and His great love for us in the phrase which I find comfort and inspiration in – There but for the Grace of God go I.

    May our Creator bless you.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. an observer of The Undead; enemies of The Creator and disciples of The Enemy of God who are soul dead while they are only technically bodily alive

  24. Waldo TerraFirma

    So Grundmann, ever been married? Had a girlfriend? When was the last time?

  25. johnO

    On Bestiality I read a man went twice to the same horse in Texas. He was arrested recently.

    @32 I think paulie says he lives with mother in California?

  26. johnO

    I also like that Costa Rica “accidentally” passed same sex marriage. The legislators didn’t read the bill before passing it. LOL.

  27. Cody Quirk

    #33- besides living with his mother, he’s single and doesn’t have any kids.

    Me thinks he should get out more, get a girlfriend, and at least stop wearing devil costumes to political events.

  28. Catholic Trotskyist

    Like William Saturn, I will also conduct an independent and neutral review of Candle Crusade. There is much truth in what Dr Grundman says, and his information has in part led me to announce the upcoming disolution of the Catholic Trotskyist Party on August 1, in order to pursue a true Christian pro-humanity conservative agenda. While I disagree with Dr Grundman about economic issues and I belong to a different denomination, his words should be heeded by more people here. As a fellow single man, I am aware that it is not always easy for principled men to find women to match them.

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