Cody Quirk: Why I Failed To Unite the ‘Constitutional Right’

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Why I failed to Unite the ‘Constitutional Right’

July 23, 2014 

by Cody Quirk

Sadly, as the title implies, this is going to be my last editorial on this subject for years to come, and for good reason.

I was not the first to attempt this great feat in American minor-party politics, though I certainly got farther then most of the previous attempts, and yet for several important reasons; I have failed to unify the ‘right-wing’ (or as some may call the “far-right”) of the minor-party spectrum.

Perhaps once the former National American Party split in 1976 and indirectly lead to the gradual implosion of the organized & practical Constitutional Right in the years afterward, I should have known that the odds were really against me when I first started this effort and the former group, the ‘Clarion Call To Unite Committee‘, as well as anyone else that had fought for the unification of such like-minded political parties as I did, regardless of the constant rejection, ridicule, and indifference from their leaders and active party members, as well as being repeatedly thrown under the bus and stabbed in the back by other leaders and influential members that considered my efforts a threat to their fiefdom and/or status-quo which they currently enjoy. Or in other cases which also destroyed my patience and passion for this unity that I had sought- the arrogant incompetence of such leading and dominant individuals, regardless of the importance and benefits of a single, unified minor party that would adhere to such a like-minded, yet politically fragmented ideology which is deeply lacking in many areas of practicality in the present moment, therefore demonstrating the chronic and disastrous effects of that split within the forces that once rocked the American political scene in 1968.

Nevertheless, I will discuss at length the main reasons of why I not only failed, but why a unified national minor-party based on Constitutionalist and Paleoconservative beliefs is, at this current moment, a impossibility, with some of these factors being quite obvious to observers, while other factors are not.

*The Religion Factor: This is perhaps the main reason of why not only such splintered minor-parties fail/refuse to unify with other politically identical groups, but why they are unable to win any elected offices on a national or state level, as well as fail to build up a formidable voting base at the local level; while many believe that American Constitutionalism/Paleoconservatism and Christian Fundamentalism or religious zealotry go hand in hand, the truth is that this is only the case because the latter has done well in infiltrating, re-branding, or redefining the former.

Back in the days of George Wallace and John Schmitz, the Constitutional Right (or ‘far-right’), was more secular and slightly more moderate in it’s approach on religion and even certain social issues, despite racism still being a factor in some corners of it. However this was shortly before the rise of the Religious Right and Jerry Falwell’s ‘Moral Majority’ coalition which would later revolutionize and change the course and approach of conservative politics in America, but indirectly would later play a bad influence on the “far-right” and the more extreme parts of conservatism in instigating religious bigotry and theocratic inclinations in the ranks that the mainstream of American politics considers the ‘far-right fringe’.

One good example of this political religious extremism was the Christian Reconstructionist, and extreme Christian fundamentalist attempted hijacking of the National Constitution Party (formally called the ‘U.S. Taxpayers Party), during the late 1990′s and the years leading up to the infamous CP National Committee meeting in Tampa Bay, Florida back in 2006, which finally put an end to the religious zealots in the National CP as a dominating factor of that party. However if one examines this once commanding element in that minor party, the fundamentalist tenancies and former sympathies of their national leaders and influential members, including Howard Phillips (party founder), Jim Clymer, Chuck Baldwin (previously a member), and others- whom while practical and competent in their political activism and in their leadership of the CP, yet at the time tolerated and even harbored religiously extreme mindsets that would permit those with views of establishing a Christian theocratic government in this country (once they had achieved enough power to do so) and viewing all Christian Churches (including the Catholic and Mormon ones) and any religious faith that did not meet their Trinitarian and Hyper-Calvinistic views as vile ‘Satanic-lead cults‘ or ‘false religions‘ -to flock into the CP and its membership ranks in large numbers in order to not only take it over and turn it into a religious vehicle for their agenda, but also work on attacking and forcing out the other leaders and long-standing members of the CP that ascribed to those religious faiths or ideology that they vehemently opposed.

Until the 2006 CP meeting in Tampa Bay, these people had created a hostile atmosphere while instituting ‘Religious Tests‘, or a prohibition of those of a certain faith, from joining those state parties that they then controlled, and instigated serious infighting in the CP which would soon prevent the party from focusing most of its attention and resources in the election field.

While the main leaders of the CP and those of the more practical mindset would eventually prevail and also prevent the CP from breaking apart nationally, with many of this extremist crowd leaving the party in large numbers and then attempting to tear it asunder in retaliation for that 2006 meeting; yet when it came to the CP’s public image in the mainstream political arena, and with the observing crowd of minor-party politics,the damage was already done to the image of Constitutionalism in American politics; that both this political ideology and religious extremism, especially rabid fundamentalism, was stereotyped and pictured by many political geeks and observers, to go hand in hand and be inseparable together, as it is still assumed and judged likewise by the uneducated voter or political blogger, especially when the lingering elements of this extremism still inhabits certain state affiliates and other corners of the CP to this very day, as well as certain activist groups and related organizations that claim to be for restoring the U.S. Constitution and our Constitutional Republic, but it fact covertly advocate and champion for a Protestant-style theocracy with religious liberty and narrowly-defined freedoms only for those that adhere to their warped form of Christianity.

Being a former member of the Constitution Party; I can certainly testify to this, especially when for a brief time I was mislead by this camp and once quickly realizing their true nature, fought fervently in the CP and on the various online blogs against this destructive element before, and even after that notorious 2006 meeting.

However, this ‘religion factor’ is not just an issue for the CP alone, as it is also quite prevalent among the other organized minor parties of the Right, including the National Independent American Party, which is smaller then the CP and while containing many leaders and members that belong to the LDS (Mormon) Church, of which those CP members whom adhered to that faith were specifically targeted by many of the reconstructionist persuasion in that party before- yet the leaders and influential members in the National IAP advocate for, and even themselves practice, a warped distorted version of that faith, of which many mainstream LDS adherents would consider Apostate. Sadly such leading individuals in that party have also been very welcoming as of late to that extremist element which once troubled the CP in mass and are not only starting to look at the IAP as their next target, but have also deceived and manipulated the leaders of the IAP to adopt their extremist belief into their platform, their approach, and their own mindset; which is one of the reasons why I also had to part ways with them recently, despite my numerous attempts to bring practicality, logic, and a real sense of the U.S. Constitution, which include the 1st & 14th Amendments, as well as a prohibition of ‘Religious Tests’ in Article Six; yet again those parts of our Constitution get routinely ignored, or even shunned by such extreme zealots and the sympathetic party leaders in the ranks of the CP, the IAP, and other parties and related groups.

Another good example of how religious extremism corrupts and ruins a political party is that of the former American Heritage Party (now called the Christian Liberty Party) of Washington state, which was an active state organization that constantly ran candidates for various offices during the 1990′s, yet as its governing state leaders back then became more extreme in their approach and ideology, to the point of advocating disaffiliation from the U.S. Taxpayers Party for ‘not being explicitly Christian enough’; this would later lead to a split in the AHP, with the more practical and political-oriented members leaving it and starting up the Constitution Party of Washington. Afterward what remained of the AHP eventually changed their name, became more focused on Calvinistic philosophy, with the goal of “mobilizing many Christian individuals and families to be rebuilders at the local level, developing a sure foundation from which to launch state and national candidates”, and yet not only have they failed to do so, but have run their former state organization into the ground, of which they have not ran any candidates since 2002, nor have they regained ballot access in Washington and are nearly defunct in activity and organization- further proving that unlike the parable of expanding the tent; to instead shrink and cut away the tent and you are soon without a tent to dwell in in the first place.

The fact is that this element is itself not just in nonconformity with the United State Constitution, and especially the many parts of the Christian Bible that speak out against sacrilegious and Pharisee-oriented attitudes and behavior (Matthew 6:4-8, 7:1-5, 23:12-28, 1 Corinthians 5:9-13,1 Peter 2:13-19, 5:5-6 -to name a few parts), but the fact that this element and the people that adhere to it, along with the militant Atheist and anti-religious liberty crowd on the opposite end, are the antithesis and outright enemies of the U.S. Constitution and what our Founding Fathers intended, as George Washington plainly stated in a May 1789 letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia: “… If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.” Or simply put by Thomas Jefferson in a January 1799 letter to Elbridge Gerry: “…I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”

The fact of the matter being, that while our nation’s founders are rolling around in their graves over what has happened to our government and our freedoms in this country; they are as equally upset in their tombs at what these political parties and organizations, whom claim to represent their principles and the principles of that guiding document of which they founded -are yet completely ignoring or even are in opposition to the religious freedom & opportunities that they fought at length to be instilled in our nation’s constitution and the constitutions of the states.

Indeed, while this element has the right and liberty here to believe, advocate for, and warp scripture as much as they want to in their churches and upon their pulpits; their presence in the political arena, specifically in the minor and major parties even, is nothing short of a sacrilegious and ethical abomination which, if possessing such power and influence in western society here, would indeed be the equivalent to the Taliban, or to the tyrannical forces within the various Islamic terrorist groups as well as the Muslim theocratic governments of the Middle East, of which the leftist and atheist caricatures of such individuals and organizations are indeed quite accurate on them.

The sad thing is that the Libertarian Party, as well as many of the libertarian mindset, are more correct and constitutionally accurate on the subject of religious liberty and freedom of conscience, then the National IAP and the various other constitutionalist parties out there are; while our nation was founded on Christian-oriented principles, it was however founded upon them in a nonsectarian, inclusive, and secular manner; the intent of the First Amendment was not only to give the right to adherents of any Christian denomination the freedom to worship and practice their faith without government interference- but also any non-christian religion, or sect, the same exact rights and freedoms as well, whether it be Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, or even Paganism, Satanism, Agnosticism, or Atheism, etc.

Many of that Pharisee zealot crowd would not only prefer to ignore this fact, or the real intent of the founding fathers; but would even work to suppress those religious liberties and freedoms that Americans are supposed to enjoy and would dare seek to establish a theocratic government, or an American ‘Theonomy‘ based upon dogmatic and socially totalitarian rules and regulations like of old Cromwellian England, or that of Geneva, Switzerland under the reign of John Calvin- if such forces were ever to achieve enough power and influence in American politics to do so, which thankfully is very very unlikely at this point.

That is why, for constitutionalists and paleoconservatives to take our nation and our government back, such must be libertarian-oriented on the issues of religion and religious freedom, as well as not only tone down the sacrilegious and incorrect views on the christian principles that guide our nation and it’s foundations; but to also focus less on the religious mindset as well as the overemphasis on social issues and moral values and instead be more secular, more tolerant of the various beliefs and viewpoints of the American people as well as focus better upon the economy, the issues of immigration and national sovereignty, as well as our disturbing and self-destructive foreign policy and international relationships.

Or in other words- to return to the ideology and mindset of the days of George Wallace and John Schmitz, minus the racism.

While the CP itself is gradually moving in this direction, the attitude and mindset of the other minor parties is unlikely to change anytime soon, as the more zealous, arrogant leaders and dominant individuals of these parties are too set in their ways and much too hostile to any form of necessary change or overhaul to ever alter any part of their own party’s doctrine and function in order to do to implement constitutional government, or to at least accomplish something that will get them somewhat ahead in the game of politics.

Of such people and thinking however, I have no tolerance, patience, or respect for anymore; as being a devoted anti-theocrat and religious libertarian that I am- no more will I try to reach out and reason with such individuals and compromise my adherence to the true spirit of our country’s constitution and the beliefs of religious liberty held dear by our nation’s founders, as such people and their political viewpoints are more aligned with the enemies of that which they claim to fight against.

Unifying the Constitutional Right at the expense of religious freedom & tolerance sure as hell isn’t at all worth it in my book.

*The Purist/’No Exceptions No Compromise’ Mindset: This issue is often tied in to the previous factor discussed as well. I’ve already heard many constitutionalists and paleoconservatives squawk and squeal that any form of moderation or watering down of the wording of their religious, social, and moral principles, or any part of the platform of their political party to be a dangerous compromise and a risky strategy to them that could automatically put them on par with the current state of the GOP and the anti-conservative, unconstitutional elements within those Republican ranks. Likewise is warned by those that also scream about the ‘dangers’ of the “Spirit of Party”, yet while never having a clue about the even greater dangers of going to the opposite extreme, as they have already done and which I will discuss here.The abortion issue also makes up a part of this issue; while it is understandable and noble to take a firm and iron-clad stance on the issue of Life, or at least a more principled one then that of the Republican Party, nevertheless to exclude all exceptions to the issue of abortion, even if the mother’s health and well-being is at risk -is irrational and intolerable to the average voter and the more seasoned and practical Pro-Life supporters and activists; a good example of the counter-productivity of the ‘no exceptions, no compromise’ crowd is the defeat of 2006 Woman’s Health and Human Life Protection Act in South Dakota; one of the key reasons for the defeat of this legislation at the ballot box was because of the extremity of the wording in the law, which even prohibited abortions in cases of rape or incest; yet there was evidence to show that if the legislation included exceptions for rape and incest, then it would have received enough votes to have passed if the wording and the restrictions were less extensive as they were.

The same could be said of the various state “Personhood Amendments” in Colorado, Mississippi, and elsewhere; with the idea of giving full civil rights to the unborn rejected by the people of those states due to the troubling and confusing language in each proposition, that could have restricted access to contraception, and certain forms of medical surgery on the uterus, as well as potentially create inconvenient legal dilemmas and red tape which would have done more harm then good for the cause of protecting the unborn.

But sadly, the issue of Life has also been used by those with destructive agendas in limiting party membership and/or expelling party members and even disaffiliating state parties that are not considered extreme enough on the Life issue, despite how such stances are not logically or even politically feasible in this country, or with the current voting base.

The fact of the matter is that such minor parties instead need to follow a proper balance of moderation and maintaining one’s principles, or core beliefs at the same time, as CP founder Howard Phillips himself once stated: “There are good compromises and bad compromises; good compromises get you closer to your goal while bad compromises take you further away from them.” -or in other words, it is possible to maintain your core standards or principles while adjusting other aspects of the party’s guiding documents and standards- and not at all come into conflict with it’s core principles/belief, as well as adjusting it’s appeal and approach from time to time when necessary due to a changing attitudes, opinions, or social trends of the general public, and still be in conformity with said principles or viewpoints.

Because, the actual truth is, by rejecting any form of compromise or moderation, you will instead go to that opposite and even more destructive form of the extreme, where your stances and appeal is so narrow and exclusive that you and your party fail to attract the average voter except for those of that are just as extreme and irrational as you appear to be, which further contributes to you and your party’s inability to further organize, grow in membership, or appeal to the voting public- therefore succumbing to inactivity and gradual demise once you, the leaders, and active members of said party either die off or leave it, which in conclusion shows the failure of your party to accomplish any of its goals, or accomplish anything at all in the field of politics for that matter, except in wasting time, resources, and dividing those of similar beliefs and principles during its pathetic existence.

And yet again, this self-destructive trend is going to continue for some time, as the paranoia of that purist mindset is iron-clad in its resolve and grip on most of these parties and the personalities that govern them, regardless of any appeal of logic or reason that I, or others, in those parties, advocate for in order to put an end to a vain and unproductive history among them.

*Possessive & Overprotective Mentalities: This factor goes hand in hand with the ‘Purist Mindset’; many of these parties are overly protective of themselves and so suspicious of outsiders that they almost qualify as a elite cult-like sect that’s more concerned with keeping their fiefdom and internal status-quos then they are on organizing themselves further in attempting to become a serious factor in politics; in a way, they are the paleoconservative version of those hard-left marxist groups that are a political party in title/name only and behave more like splinter cells then actual functioning parties; where their concern is more about protecting themselves and promoting their own particular philosophy among their small faithful flock instead of attempt to expand, grow, and even win over others of similar philosophies. With these parties however, their exclusive policies on membership and dialogue with any other similar groups is heavy handed, almost unrealistically delusional in their behavior and conduct with others even.

I certainly know about this from my previous email correspondences with the leaders, or ‘contacts’, for those minor parties that behaved in such a manner, including the America First Party, America’s Party the American Patriot Party, and other less significant parties that seem to only be active online and nowhere else.

However in the more organized minor parties this kind of mentality takes more subtle and covert forms, as evidenced in the arrogant indifference and hostility given to me and others involved in my efforts from those leaders of the Constitution Party because we were also engaged in civil dialogue with the ‘enemy’ leaders of the California American Independent Party, whom are treated with hostility and contempt by the leaders and active members of the CP over the strife and falling out that they had with their former California affiliate back in 2008.

And despite our best attempts to bury the hatchet and try to mend the ties between these two parties, this was unforgiving and unacceptable in the eyes of the CP, which was unknowingly to us, still too bitter, and therefore took unethical action against me and the former CP Youth Chairman, Joshua Fauver, at their National Committee meeting in Baltimore Maryland in April of last year.

Yet the past drama with their former state party is not solely the reason for this irrational attitude, but for the fact that many in the CP, as well as the National IAP, and others, are so illogically protective and assertive of their own parties that they view, and in some cases attack, any rival minor party with similar ideologies with the same type of venom and disdain as they would the major parties or even our current president.

Another thing too is that this factor isn’t so apparent and visible most of the time within these parties; sometimes the vile personalities that follow this type of behavior and way of thinking are actually quite subtle and crafty about their true nature, or feelings, on such matters. And when they have committed the offense against any one person that seeks to undermine their ‘game-plan’ or fiefdom that they have going on in their camp, their response will sometimes be of indifference, denial, silly reasoning, petty anger, or a refusal to answer at all, as those types I had to deal with gave me varying degrees of it in their email correspondences I had with them. Which is why for anyone joining any minor party with the intent of building it up and maybe changing a few things- BEWARE! You are bound to bruise a few egos and piss off certain long-standing leaders that have little or zero tolerance for nonconformity and individualistic attitudes! Regardless of how well-intentioned and produce you are for your party’s cause; sooner or later you are bound to get thwarted, thrown-under-the-bus, disciplined, or even expelled from membership in that minor party, so be careful where you tread in that minor party which you are, or want to become a member of!

The fact of this matter is that to try to unify such parties- while those not understanding of the situation in each minor party assuming it to be the most possible and rational thing for all these parties to do, if they really wanted to see their agenda for our nation to be actually implemented on the state or even national level, if possible- is in fact actually as difficult as the idea of reuniting Northern Ireland with the Irish Republic; many of the leaders and members of these parties care a hundred times more to keep their own party’s go-it-alone approach, manner of operations, and their own leadership and influence within their own party the way it is, regardless of their party’s success, or lack thereof, in the political arena. No matter how necessary, or even logical, it would be to combine forces together in creating a formidable vehicle that could change the balance of things in politics and even in our government. It is exactly like the laughable scenario of Life of Brian’s ‘Judean People’s Front’ fighting against the ‘People’s Front of Judea’ simply over the most pettiest of issues, or topics.

So I guess one can say, if American politics is a ‘acquired taste’ for those that want to do more for their country, then minor-party politics here is a taste that few can stand and even fewer, like me, can stay committed to in the long run, owning to the egotistical and antagonistic personalities and the various personal agendas that at times lead to such petty infighting, double-crossing, defamation of character, and other vain tactics and behavior that only give reason, and motivation, to those that prefer to stick with and protect the two-party system in this country.

*Arrogant and/or Incompetent Leadership: This factor is not only the biggest non-ideological reason for the inability of paleoconservative/constitutionalist parties to ever become a viable and serious threat to our two-party system, but also for the overwhelming majority of all minor parties to ever become a viable third force in our nation’s politics.

Not only do you have the typical egotistical and eccentric leaders of such parties governing things that way they see fit, or consider to be the correct course, but many of this type especially are unproductive and quite incapable of growing their own party or advancing it’s cause in politics in most cases, and yet many of them do not acknowledge or understand this, perhaps some even refuse to, since they are indeed that egotistical, or too stubbornly arrogant to see the error in their ways and leadership. In fact many of that type care little with how ineffective and futile their own approach, and their party’s approach is, as long as they think what they’re doing is the right way, or as long as it fits in with their agenda- futile or not.

I remember attending one party get-together in Las Vegas, Nevada thinking it was going to be conducted as a professional meeting with a agenda and matters to be debated, reworded in document, and sustained or rejected via a vote of the delegates- only to discover it being held in a cluttered auditorium with the chairs aligned in a circle in the middle of it as if it were a kindergarten class. That meeting itself ended up being conducted like a church-sponsored AA meeting with people taking about themselves and ‘bearing testimony’, along with the rest of the meeting taken up with extensive and unnecessary speeches on topics that had little to do with the important agenda at hand; at the end, that whole meeting was so wasteful and pointless and it was only during the last half-hour that the agenda was dealt with, and yet because of the shortness of time, ended up remaining incomplete! It was one of the few times that I was so frustrated & disgusted in all my years involved in politics; the complete unprofessional and simpleton conduct, along with the fact that while I was one of the youngest people in the room, only a few of the older delegates and leaders possessed the same intelligence, experience, and proper mannerisms which I had learned from, yet constantly applied to the conduct of my political affairs, unlike the idiots I had to work with.

It was not the first time I had attended a poorly conducted political meeting such as this where ‘Robert’s Rules of Order’ had no meaning or effect on it; other committee meetings and conventions I’ve been due also lacked the mannerisms and conduct similar to the one I mentioned; many years ago, one convention in particular had everyone suddenly walking around not knowing what to do at one point because the moderator of the convention had stepped out for a brief bathroom break and all the delegates were highly dependent on her in leading the meeting.

While the Green and Libertarian Parties conduct their meetings in a orderly manner most of the time, many of the constutitionalist/paleoconserative ones unfortunately do not, and feature banners done in crayon or marker and designed like a elementary school poster at meetings with delegates dressed like either they were in the middle of doing summer chores on their farm, or simply woke up earlier in a dumpster and didn’t bother to shower. But then again I must be reminded with how extensive and fervent the GOP grip is on the more practical and professional crowd that adheres to that ideology; therefore all minor parties of such ideology are forced to work with what resources and sympathetic individuals they have, especially with the extreme fringe that even the GOP takes pains in in keeping out of their meetings and affairs; and with these kind of individuals that I have had to work with the last 12 years of being in politics… Now that I think about it, I don’t blame the Republicans at all for wanting to keep such mentalities out of their ranks.

This is also tied in with the religion factor too, since many of these party leaders, especially those in the National IAP, actually consider their party, and leadership position, a religious calling- that God literally told them that they were ordained to be a prophet, or a wannabe Moses, for said party and that this is what He wanted them to do and that they would be successful about it in the long run; I’ve already had too many of these types tell me this, and especially tell me that God wanted them to be in charge and that we are to do or conduct things in said party a certain why because God wanted it so; and when they fail, they assume that God is ‘working in mysterious ways’, or that they respond to failure with a tent-revival style sermon where they and everyone at the meeting give their own religious testimony about said party and why they belong to it and why they feel God has chosen it to save the country, blah blah blah.

And with enduring this kind of hogwash and pointless, vain Pentecostal-style lectures and discussions, the reasons why these people and their parties get nowhere with the general voting public is more then obvious; in fact this kind of behavior is especially a evident factor as to why religion and religious influence is fading from politics and the social forum in this country; Americans in general are actually getting fed up and tired of the dogmatic, yet empty religious rhetoric that has been constantly spewed, distorted, and abused for over a century; which is why I also got tired of being involved, or working with, political parties that are too overwhelming in hyper fundamentalist propaganda.

Last but not least on this topic, and it falls into both fields of arrogance and incompetence- is the common weakness and party-destroying behavior of party leaders and domineering individuals to take petty disagreements on party matters, policy changes, or any changes to the platform, bylaws, and various party documents, too seriously; that individual(s) disagreeing, or advocating for something that they disagree with, take it way too personal, to the point of throwing temper-tantrums or flying off the handle over something as petty as choosing a ‘assistant media relations director’, or changing a single verb in a paragraph in the party bylaws.

Such people are not just control-freaks, but they are neat freaks as well; to the point that if any part of their style of wanting to do things or what they perceive as a “flawless” aspect that is part of that political party, gets altered in any way (even if it’s for the better), then to them it is war and a unacceptable price that they refuse to pay, and they end up fighting and attempting to derail that attempted alteration of that matter to the extent that it divides and inhibits the party from growing further, or in it’s internal stability as well.

Again, this is a problem with all third parties; how some people just can’t learn to accept compromise or agree to disagree and allow the majority will of the said party to take it’s course and simple move on; no, such people prefer to deal in a heavy-handed version of absolutes; either it is entirely their way, or all hell will break lose- “No exceptions! No compromise!”

No wonder why the Democrats and Republicans have nothing to worry about much at this point.

*The GOP Factor: The last roadblock to cover here is the fact that some of these right-wing minor parties still attempt to cater to, or indirectly support the Republican Party, or the conservative aspects of it, to the point that some of these minor parties, and the leaders/members of other minor parties, actually support the laughable pipe-dream notion of eventually replacing the GOP with their own political party and therefore become a major party.

Regardless, many of these conservative-oriented minor parties are almost always founded by, and the majority of their members/leaders have been, at one point, Republican and/or Republican activists. Now this is understandable and typical, yet some of this crowd still can’t let their former party go, and therefore they have one foot remaining in the GOP and the other one in said minor party, because they feel that they have to continue their involvement in the drama of their former party, or are still involved with the business of the GOP in some way while hypocritically campaigning or helping out said minor party at the same time; I’ve seen and heard too many of these minor-party activists still call for support of a certain GOP candidate or party leader that’s backed by the Tea Party movement, or adheres to the same type of ideology that the said minor party champions. However some of this type still get too friendly and cozy with the GOP, to the point that they force the said minor party they’re involved in to constantly endorse and support GOP candidates, or to still vote in their primaries and ride upon the Republican Party’s coattails instead of running their own candidates and better defining themselves as the best alternative to the major parties, or to better develop and grow their own political party in the first place- to the point that their GOP brown-nosing invites entryism, or outside infiltration by the GOP or their allied groups to influence or gain partial, or even complete control, of said minor party and simply turn it into a vehicle of their own desire and therefore destroy that party’s independence, or trustworthiness, as a third force in the political arena, or even force that said party to disband completely in order to eliminate the competition that the GOP or even its candidates will not tolerate, period.

Which is why when it comes to the conduct of minor parties in general, any cooperation with the major parties must be limited and cautious; be on your guard when dealing with the ‘big boys’ in American politics and never put yourself, or your political party, in a weak spot that would allow those of the major parties to exploit or take advantage of you, or your party, and especially watch out for new people, or certain individual,s that join your party during this time that are suspicious in character or start causing trouble for you and your party right away.

Of course the results of ignoring this particular factor is what has happened to many minor parties throughout the decades and generations, including the Progressive Party of the early 20th Century, as well as many others that have ended up getting infiltrated and internally sabotaged by the agents, or forces aligned with the major parties.

While I have little proof to back this up, yet I do believe that even at this present moment, the GOP has already infiltrated some of these minor parties, and that many of their leaders are GOP agents, or are closet GOP supporters which intend to control and manipulate the minor party that they are a member, or leader thereof, for the GOP’s advantage, which indeed makes me wonder if some of those within the Constitution Party, the National IAP, and other minor parties that I have tried to work with and butted heads with before, are actually part of a potential GOP ‘fifth column’ within their ranks; that advocating for the notion of unifying all the like-minded minor parties has caused such vehement opposition from them due simply because it would most likely weaken the stranglehold the GOP has on this part of the spectrum and therefore undo their agenda and created status-quo of theirs, and others?

Of course, there are also minor parties whose only purpose is to support and back GOP candidates and their neoconservative agenda, like the New York Conservative Party, American Conservative Party, Conservative Party USA, and others that simply exist only as fluffers for the major parties -have little to worry about in this department, instead their worry and concern is for their GOP superstar candidate, and the GOP itself, in ending up as the vanquished in whatever race, or election, they’re running in.

Nevertheless this topic here, poses some serious questions that are certainly not going to get answered, or addressed, for quite some time.

In fact in some of these minor parties, they may never get addressed at all during the party’s existence.

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So there you have it; this is why minor parties of the constitutionalist/paleoconservative persuasion are unable to make any serious headway in American politics at the moment. The only thing that could perhaps change this matter around overnight would be for the GOP to up and collapse in a single day, which is very much unlikely. However at the same time, this indeed would be one of the few ways for any minor party to turn into a major party in this country (minus a catastrophic collapse of our economy, or our government), that is for one of the major parties to go the way of the Whigs and have a minor party step up and take its place, since Americans still have a ways to go before the majority of them finally realize that a multi-party system is the only true answer in restoring our Constitutional Republic, or at least in creating a better, more effective, and more citizen-oriented government on both the state and national level, in order to due away with the bureaucratic red tape and remove the shackles of decay and anti-constitutional limitations that rob the American people of their liberty, their full potential, and better prosperity.

Now some might be now be asking- Cody, why don’t you simply join the Libertarian Party and work to remake it the way you see fit?

And the answer to that is simply because, I am not a Libertarian.

Now granted, I do have a lot of respect for the LP, and I agree with them entirely on the issue of civil & religious liberties, the constitutional right to keep and bare arms, and free-enterprise on the local level. Nevertheless, I am a fervent believer of maintaining and even strengthening one’s borders and in protecting one’s national and moral/traditional culture, along with instilling and maintaining some reasonable ‘protectionist’ economic standards that protects and insulates our country’s financial infrastructure and the American worker.

Plus in my view, the LP has too many closet-Marxists and libertine-oriented Socialists in their ranks for me to ever consider it home, or to ever consider the notion of a border-less, utopian world of philosophical-anarchism and unrestricted capitalism a likable and realistic possibility, even several generations from now.

Therefore at this time, I am forced to go the registered nonpartisan route, since I have yet to find a political home for my own beliefs and standards, and it will likely be a long time until I do.

However, despite these obstacles and conflicts, not all is forever lost, or that having a single, unified minor party on the Constitutional Right is a permanent impossibility; because it still can happen in the future. However it is obvious that the time for all constitutionalists and political patriots to unify into a single group has yet to arrive, otherwise these cancerous tumors, or barriers, shouldn’t at all be a dividing point…

And yet they are, and will be for awhile longer.

While it still is possible in the near-future, perhaps in 2016 or later down the line, for the conditions and internal situations in all or most of these parties, to be minimal and better suited for a potential merger. Yet even if all of minor parties of this Constitutional Right never merge, then most likely the largest ones would gradually merge together and the smaller ones will all die out or go permanently inactive due to lack of growth and aging membership. Now granted, should the Constitution Party alone put an end to all the above listed factors that currently plague their party, as well as reword a few parts of their platform to make it appeal better, adopt better checks & balances to their bylaws, and even adopt a more populist-sounding national title, or name… And especially gain ballot access in more states and win back their former California affiliate into their ranks- then they would be able to further organize, gain new members and perpetually cement themselves as the ‘Third Party of the Right’ -then to me, this would be a welcoming outcome and at that point would I join them and hence return to the world of political activism.

I admit though, I am quite bitter and will be for some time; not because of having failed to accomplish a serious political feat that I put my blood, sweat, and tears into. Neither am I bitter at the people that stabbed me in the back and betrayed me when I constantly gave them the olive branch and sought to treat them, their party, and their associates fairly while always honest and up front with them, even if they weren’t so with me. I am especially not bitter that I failed to restore the legacy of my political mentor, the late William K. Shearer, whom co-founded the California AIP and the CP, being one of the few constitutionalists/paleoconservatives that was practical-minded, intelligent, and flawless in his political approach and wisdom; though it really does hurt that I still failed to accomplish the same feats and breakthroughs that he did in his lifetime…

Instead, I am bitter because, out of all the years and most of my youth that I have put into politics and political activism; I have accomplished so little and wasted so much; all my passion, zeal, and energy went down the drain because of these factors and those individuals in those parties that always screwed up the good work I did for them, and ruined any good luck or momentum that came our way, and especially wasted the few golden opportunities that could have advanced their own party up the ladder of success, either in activism or implementing a portion of their platform in the public square or electoral map.

It is so frustrating and disheartening for such self-destructive simpletons and scumbags to torpedo all of your efforts and attempts in assistance and in bettering, even achieving a vital stepping-stone that could have possibly alter the whole political system of a country, and in due time, the world.

Being a Christian myself, however, I must remember that such individuals will in due time be held accountable for their actions and behavior, regardless of their intentions, sometime in this life or in the one hereafter; yet it is quite likely that with the divisiveness and counter-productivity of their activities, the resulting conclusions and consequences will come forth in due time.

So in final conclusion, I am therefore leaving this so called maze we call ‘politics’ by yanking down on the Emergency Exit lever.

There are plenty of other, more funner and constructive things that I always intended on doing with my life, only to be moved to the backseat long ago when helping improve my country and our government was my main focus and desire back then. But now I know such goals are very much out of my hands and unworkable at the moment while these roadblocks still dominate the current minor-party scene way too much. So instead I’m going to my focus and hone my true talents and passions on things that I consider to be a better leisure and satisfying hobby; I guess sometimes it takes awhile for some to discover that their real calling in life isn’t the one that they’ve been doing for so long. Therefore I am now done wasting what remains of my youth on bad tastes and vain notions and instead will take a different path with a seasoned and more better perspective. While again, I could return to the battlefield of American politics a few years or a decade down the line from this moment, I will stop trying to figure out how to leave the maze and simply opt for that ejection seat.

Because, I quit.

Goodbye Bill… I have my own life to live now.

64 thoughts on “Cody Quirk: Why I Failed To Unite the ‘Constitutional Right’

  1. NewFederalist

    Whew! Reading this was very difficult. If you read it out loud you would gasp for breath since so many sentences never seemed to end. I get the drift of it. It is hopeless.

  2. Cody Quirk

    Yes, there was so much to talk about in it.

    Question: would you update my pic if I sent you a current one?
    That one is of me 4 years ago when I was 60 pounds heavier.

  3. Steven Wilson

    You can’t feel bad as it is part of being young. Your ego took over your logic. You chose the religious nutballvania as your political womb. No worries.

    The religious right does not: team build, recruit candidates, raise funds, or allow for bottom up structures. It doesn’t matter what state I have been in or operated in; these are the shortcomings every single time.

    There is always at least one person who wants to use the group to be famous. They want donors to support their efforts and there is a martyrdom quality to these “leaders”. It is self-fulfilling and a reason not to support them.

    The main fuel source for religious right is fever. This might work on Sunday but it won’t build a movement in modernity. Until the religious right moves into the 21st century they will accomplish nothing. It won’t matter who leads them.

  4. Jeremy C. Young

    Interesting read, although I don’t entirely agree with your analysis. I think you went down the rabbit hole of tiny paleocon parties and misunderstood the importance those parties have in the national constitutionalist movement. Who cares what America’s Party or the America Firsters think? They are not real political parties that run candidates for office; they are merely social clubs filled with isolated constitutionalists of various stripes. Yeah, going to one of their meetings is probably like listening to someone scratch their nails on a chalkboard, but that’s because they are dumb and tiny and NOT REAL POLITICAL PARTIES.

    The real split in the constitutionalist movement has been between the CP and the IAP, particularly the California variety. And I don’t think that split has much to do with religion — remember, the supposedly non-theocratic CP were the ones running a Baptist preacher for President in 2008 (mind you, a thoughtful Baptist preacher, who was probably the best third party candidate in any party that cycle). At the time, the split seemed to be about neoconservative foreign policy, with the IAP backing Alan Keyes, but ultimately I think it was all about personality conflicts, much like the Wagner-Burke battle in the LP. The main difference is that the IAP convinced so many state affiliates to disaffiliate and endorse first Keyes and then Hoefling that the CP lost major-party ballot status. When your rogue affiliate is in California, you have a serious problem.

    I think it was a good idea to try to get Seidenberg’s group and the CP on the same page, if only because they are useless instruments without their combined ballot access. However, ultimately, you learned the same thing the CP learned in 2008: there is no working with the California IAP or the people who ally with them. Unfortunately, the CP lacks the resources to gain ballot status for competing state affiliates in those other states, so at the moment they are stuck in a holding pattern. But if I had to bet on anybody, I’d bet on the CP coming out ahead, rather than the IAP.

  5. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    NF said: “I think you may have the IAP and the AIP confused”.

    It is definitely confusing.

  6. Cody Quirk

    Agreed Steve.

    I don’t think I have the AIP & IAP confused; the National IAP is just as bad as the CP in terms of religious extremism, but more so guilty when it comes to incompetence.

  7. paulie

    Question: would you update my pic if I sent you a current one?
    That one is of me 4 years ago when I was 60 pounds heavier.

    Sure.

  8. Jed Ziggler

    “My sense was that the two parties were now working together.”

    There was the effort to unite the right-wing parties, as Cody talks about, and they were included on that, but there’s no affiliation between the two. AIP was briefly affiliated with America’s Party after breaking from the CP, but they’re their own sovereign party.

  9. Andy

    Cody, have you ever considered that maybe some or all of these right wing parties are infiltrated by government plants who act as saboteurs, provocateurs, and informants, and they are intentionally screwing things up so none of these parties ever unite or get ahead?

    I’ve been wondering the same thing about the Libertarian Party for along time. It is a documented fact that the government sends plants into all kinds of organizations and movements. I would not be surprised if every alternative political party / movement was infiltrated with government plants. It would only take a few plants in a few key places to seriously derail a political party / movement.

  10. Andy

    I’m not saying that plants are the only factor in holding a party or movement back, as there are several factors. I’m just bringing it up because it is one of the factors that does not get focused on as much as it should. Like I said, I would not be surprised if every political group/movement that the establishment sees as any kind of threat, or potential threat, to its power is infiltrated with plants.

  11. paulie

    I spent a bit of time in the Central American jungles many years ago, and we had a lot of plants to contend with. We were taught to use Machetes to clear them from our path.

  12. Steven Wilson

    Andy,

    You might consider speaking with Tom Knapp. He has interesting ideas about “plants” in the Libertarian party. Well, I found it interesting. I don’t agree with it, but if you use the outcome that is nothing from all third parties; the theory does hold water.

    I still believe third parties go to the ditch because of vanity and dogma.

  13. paulie

    Most likely a combination of things, but yes, there is ample evidence that all alternative parties and movements get infiltrated. There’s also the natural orneriness, nitpickishness, ego conflicts and incompetence that come with anything outside the mainstream – not that the mainstream is immune to these things by any means.

  14. Sean Scallon

    A very good essay Cody. I’m sorry your efforts for good were wasted but at least you understood what the problem was and acted on it. It’s not your fault politics on the Right has become a parody of politics on the Left where Christianity substitues for Marx and Mao and Fidel as the reason for such pettiness. It’s sad and rather disgusting to see the Christ the Savior used in such fashion.

    As you’ve discovered, most of these little “parties” arean’t really parties at all but simply sects of a few people here and there run by their little Napoleons and in time they will go out of existence as their leaders die or go do something else. I think the CP is certainly hoping this “culling” of Right-ideological parties will leave them the last ones standing if they can simply stay alive for the time being. Thus, your “unification” accomplished by attrition rather than by a meeting of the minds (which may be why you met so much resistance). But as you yourself pointed out, you were the youngest face at one of these meetings. Time is indeed running out on a whole generation of activists going back to the AIP of the 1960s and 70s but also the Religious Right of the 1980s and 90s that basically created and kept these parties going for many, many years. Long past their due dates as it turns out for some of them.

    And who will replace such activists? One would think the Tea Partiers but their activists are largely of the same generation (with some Xers and Millenial or too thrown in as well). Perhaps the biggest failure such non-major parties on the Right have had since 2008 has been their inability to take advantage of the Paul movement or the Tea Party to replenish and rejuvinate their ranks. This was not going to be easy because Conservative INC. was already moving to hustle such movements into their cages just as they were getting started. But was any real attempt made to promote an conservative alternative to the GOP among such activists? Not that I could discerne.

    A good part of the problem with Republicans has been their ability to absorb a lot of the rhetoric and ideas these parties had been offering for many years into its own mainstream function. I’m certain a platform resolution supporting secession from the United States was no doubt debated and voted on at various CP and IAP and other party conventions for a long time. That state and local Republican Parties would begin to debate such resolutions with a straight face in this day and age is amazing when you think about it. But then again it is part of what major parties do to stay relevant and in control. The party has allowed for such debate and candidates that would have been seen as very radical just a decade ago in order to co-opt such forces and tame them, keeping them within the Republican orbit. Their reasoning is in due time they will calm down as Republican control is restablished and everyone will go back to being the cheerful robots they were under Bush II. On the national level, at least, the establishment has not given up control as Paulites found out the hard way at 2012 GOP National Convention after being suckered by Romney into an illusion of an “strategic alliance.” What happens at the state and local level is not deemed as that important so long as control is kept at the top. However, as we’ve seen on many questions like the government shutdown, this is a dangerous tactic. It is dangerous because it assumes unpopular state and local candidates don’t tarnish the national GOP brand and that the party leadership will always be in position to main control no matter what the circumstance. We shall see.

    You may not seen yourself as doctinare libertarian Cody (and neither do I). But successful political parties are made up of people who are not doctriares and more the LP can do to bring such persons in their ranks, the bigger it will become. In fact it’s already starting to happen as we’re seeing in polls in various races across the country. Some of their candidates are going well beyond one percent.

  15. paulie

    As you’ve discovered, most of these little “parties” arean’t really parties at all but simply sects of a few people here and there run by their little Napoleons and in time they will go out of existence as their leaders die or go do something else

    Some of us knew this all along. Sorry you had to find out the hard way.

  16. Cody Quirk

    Yes, thanks for updating my pic.

    I understand about NF’s comment now.

    FYI, Don (Closet-Homo) Grundmann responded nicely to my article on that site.

  17. paulie

    I’m glad he’s over there. If you keep him over there more hopefully he will have less time to come over here 🙂

  18. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Quirk the Twerp – It really doesn’t matter that paulie can put in a new picture for you as the key problem is that you are the same ( and actually far worse ) utterly stupid moronic nitwit that you were in the last picture.
    You are far worse because in the time frame since you wrote your staggeringly asinine and colossally stupid reply to my exposure of your stupidity you actually now include your complete stupidity in your ultra lame screed as a justification for your fantastic moronicness within your article!!! What a complete and total fool!!!
    Ypu totally ( as you have always done ) gloss over your working hand in glove with the traitors Robinson, Seidenberg, and Noonan while ultra incredibly claiming to be a student of Bill Shearer!!!; the very person whom these traitors plunged a knife into the back more than anyone else!!! Certainly if Bill were alive and in sound mind he would have to be stopped from beating a nitwit traitor like you to death as you have done everything possible to both oppose those working to save his work and legacy and to support the very traitors/moles who literally committed criminal acts to destroy everything which he had built. People who treated him – only once he was dead – with utter and sneering contempt both privately and publicly many times. Of course you – being the god forsaken stupid ass that you are – totally supported such evil rats simply because of the glory which YOU would personally receive once those who were REALLY fighting to save the party were pushed out of the way. And then you have the total gall to claim that you are a follower of Bill!!! Just another example of your endless self-promoting and self-glorifying bull##%^!!!
    You put your ” failure ” on all of the ” meanies ” who opposed your stupidity!!! Just like Obama – it’s everybody else but you!!! Well you colossal jackass the reason you failed – and I say it again and always – is because of YOU. Because YOU are a stupid nitwit who had absolutely no intention from the very start of ” uniting ” anyone. Your own religious bigotry guaranteed that.
    As I said on the other forum, it is really ” rich ” for YOU – of all people – to claim that you encountered ” religious bigotry ” when you are a fountainhead of it.
    Bottom Line – the IAP has now found out what a jerk you are; a finding which as I noted was only a matter of time.
    Your whole screed is an ultra pathetic attempt to cover your posterior and – AS ALWAYS FOR A NOTHING LIKE YOU – make yourself look good, your damn and damnable ” image,” while making the IAP look bad. Yet AGAIN you show the lengths to which you will betray people to prop up your stupid pathetic ” image.” As I stated – I congratulate the IAP for having the good fortune of ” addition by subtraction ” in losing an utter nitwit idiot like you. The CP lucked out and now the IAP has also done so. Of course you will drone on and on and on and on for years and years and years of how the CP, the IAP, and everybody else was soooooooo mean to you.
    Well nitwit – do what you are incapable of and ( I bet ) will NEVER do. Look in the mirror to see who failed. You failed because you are a fool. AND – as demonstrated by the time length between your first idiocy and your continued idiotic defense of your asinine character as contained in your latest screed – you will ALWAYS be a total asinine idiot. You did not learn a damn thing but instead, incredibly, ” doubled down ” on your stupidity.
    It is a justly deserved fate for a total moron like yourself.
    The CP will do just fine. We will grow and return to strength DESPITE the treason of those whom you supported and despite your own foolness. The IAP will also do fine despite your oh so predictable attack against your ” friends;” which is actually something that ANY ” friend ” of yours can expect.
    You on the other hand will always, BY YOUR OWN CHOICE, be a total fool.
    It is indeed your well deserved fate.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  19. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Ziggler – As a self -professed pervert what other comment could be expected from you?

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  20. Jed Ziggler

    At least I don’t profess to be a Christian and then spew hateful, vile filth & insult somebody in a vicious tirade. You’re just a nasty, mean person. Shameful.

  21. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Ziggler – A) Quirk is a liar, coward, and back-stabbing betrayer to all who are fool enough to trust him. He works to destroy the very groups he claims ( lyingly ) to be aiding. He deserves to be insulted – early and often – as, to use the old commercial phrase, he has ” earned it ( and continues to do so ) the old fashioned way.” B) You should consider the value of shame in helping you to recover from your professed condition. It is an emotion produced by the remains of what I refer to as your original and true conscience ( via the Grace of God ); you know, the one which you strangled so long ago.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  22. Joshua Fauver

    Don, please get off of public forums and giving us actual practitioners of the faith a bad name. While doing so please give a quick read of the Beatitudes (Blessed are the meek,
    for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.) And understand that God is love and that we too are called to love. According to scripture (1st Corinthians 13) love is patient, and it is kind, it does not dishonor others, it is not easily angered, and it does not keep a record of wrongs.” So Grundmann, when you can get a firm grip on the scriptures and are able to practice them, please don’t come out here in the open and ruin the reputation of those of us who can. Thank you.

  23. Cody Quirk

    As I said before- I’m glad this article got under your closet-homo skin, Don 😉

    BTW, why aren’t you the Chairman of the California CP anymore? And especially why do you continue to assist the LGBT agenda in your state with your Fred Phelps-style psychotic divisiveness?

    FYI, Bill Shearer never shared that pathetically counterproductive mindset & approach of yours, and fyi he actually had a lot of political friends on the left, including with the Peace & Freedom Party since he opposed the two-party system enough to befriend and work with those third parties across the isle, unlike you.

  24. Cody Quirk

    You know, I sometimes have to wonder if Don Grundmann & Don Lake were the same person?

    Split personalities perhaps?

  25. Cody Quirk

    Don, you are also single and live with your mother; hence you are a poor choice to lead the efforts to protect the traditional American family, or to fight against the LGBT lobby- since you are obviously in the closet and it has warped your sanity greatly.

    Your efforts are so counterproductive like the WBC that the LGBT lobby leaves you alone and even champions your ranting as proof as to why they are winning the cultural war here.

    Then again I am serious when I say that I’m leaving politics now, so you have little to worry about from me anymore.
    By all means, go on ahead and keep doing what you’re doing while you suppress the joke that is your personal life, or especially the joke that is your “reputation” with the CP.

  26. paulie

    You know, I sometimes have to wonder if Don Grundmann & Don Lake were the same person?

    Split personalities perhaps?

    No, I know more than one person who has met them both IRL. Also their style of writing is not similar.

  27. paulie

    Don, please get off of public forums and giving us actual practitioners of the faith a bad name. While doing so please give a quick read of the Beatitudes (Blessed are the meek,
    for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.) And understand that God is love and that we too are called to love. According to scripture (1st Corinthians 13) love is patient, and it is kind, it does not dishonor others, it is not easily angered, and it does not keep a record of wrongs.” So Grundmann, when you can get a firm grip on the scriptures and are able to practice them, please don’t come out here in the open and ruin the reputation of those of us who can. Thank you.

    Amen! Or if you can’t manage to do that please at least stick with A3PR 🙂

  28. paulie

    I don’t think we have anything to worry about from that site competition-wise.

    I’m not worried, LOL.

    Anyone emailed James Ogle about it yet?

  29. paulie

    At least I don’t profess to be a Christian and then spew hateful, vile filth & insult somebody in a vicious tirade. You’re just a nasty, mean person. Shameful.

  30. paulie

    Hey guys, lets not forget those individuals all hung our around these parts at one time too.

    Yes. Yes, they did. And I have caught enough crap for showing some of them the door (even when I was only one of a bunch of people who made the decision, which I was). So now I am hoping you get the pleasure of experiencing their regular presence on your blog as well, ideally as writers as CLC already is, or at least as regular commenters.

  31. Joshua Fauver

    Well, CLC writing wasn’t my call. I certainly don’t think him being able to write is the best for the site. But I suppose we’ll have to overcome some hurdles along the way just like you guys did, and it seems those hurdles will have the same names and faces. HAHA

  32. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Someone did go to Milnes’ blog to suggest he checkl out the new site, but he doesn’t seem interested. He’s planning to come to CA by way of Boulder, Co (to exhume Nancy’s coffin and prove she really isn’t in there).

  33. Smart Alex

    Is it true that Grundmann and CLC fell in love while doing the interview for amthirdpartyreport?

  34. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Fauver – A) Christ used a whip to chase the money-changers out of the temple. B) He stated ( roughly put ) – I come to bring a sword. C) He stated that there would be division among those who followed Him and those who denied Him. D) The advance of the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement comes about precisely because of pathetic wimps like you who blather that ” God is love ” with your automatic claim that such a phrase means that everything that the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement does – like introducing sex education to kindergarteners – must be accepted without question or opposition of any kind. Only a Social Engineered total wimp/wuss – like you – would possibly accept such a preposterous idea yet it is one that you can be counted on to continuously promote. You are a classic case of exactly what I am referring to – a soul castrated pseudo-Christian male ( not man ) who will obediently grovel to the commands of the Plantation Masters of the nation so that, like the total fool Quirk, you may ” look good;” i.e.; be accepted by your fellow slaves/drones and protect your precious ” image.”

    The Plantation Masters certainly know their stuff as they well understand that Social Engineering and the desperate pathetic desire of males ( not and never men ) to preen their feathers and gain social acceptance for their pathetic existences will produce a totally compliant, docile, passive, and groveling mass of wimps who will abandon any and all principle; including protecting children and even God Himself; in order to gain favor from both their Plantation Masters and their fellow slaves. They will, as with you, lick the shoe bottoms of their Masters by attacking anyone such as myself, or Riley Hood for that matter, who stand for principle and in defense of The Creator and His Honor.

    It is so nauseating to see such pathetic wimps as yourself and Quirk. You are both a stark example of the tragic Socially Engineered collapse of men within our nation. A soul collapse that ends up producing a massive crop of pod people/males/paulies. It is a horrific fate for our nation to endure; as it indeed will not survive such a disaster.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  35. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Quirk – A) Your above comment just confirms what you have already demonstrated so many times – that you are an ultra shallow, staggeringly stupid nitwit. B) I am certainly even more glad that I can care for my mother as I shutter to think of the abandonment which yours will experience via the natural expression of your character. If my mother had you as a son – what a horrific fate that would be. C) The only reason you wrote your entire screed was to justify your backstabbing of your former IAP friends. The whole damn thing JUST to protect your posterior and – yet AGAIN – make yourself look good. It just shows that there are really no lengths that you won’t go to to betray others while promoting yourself. That is your character. And there is no way that that will be isolated to politics. Hence I shutter to think of the future betrayals that you will inflict upon your family members or anyone else who is unfortunate enough to be close enough to be stabbed by your scorpions tail. You will leave a long trail of knives in the back by the time The Creator puts you out of your misery – and stops the misery which you will, as surely as gravity, inflict upon endless others. Such is your scorpion character.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  36. Joshua Fauver

    You always do this Grundmann, you pick one part of what I said and address only it. I quoted more than one. You ignored the beattitudes. You ignored that after I said God is love, I pointed to 1st Corinthians where God tell us what love is. But that’s understandable, those scriptures don’t support the vile that you espouse. And what, pray tell, is your fixation with homosexuality. There are other sins, you know? Fornication, adultery, masturbation, lust. There are, in fact, sins that have nothing to do with sexual immorality at all, did you know? Can’t you pick one of those to focus on for just a fraction of a second and spare us your self righteous holier than thou art ramblings about how awful we all are? Why don’t you remove the log in your eye before trying to pull the splinter out of ours, as Christ so eloquently said.

  37. langa

    Holy crap, just when I thought Grundmann was gone, he returns with a vengeance, and delivers some of his best material ever. I’m literally in pain from laughing so hard!

    Krzysztof, if you happen to be reading this, you should be taking notes. This is how far-right trolls should deliver their bigoted rants. You’re not going to convince anybody of your crazy beliefs, so the least you could do is provide some entertainment value. Of course, I don’t expect you to be as funny as Grundmann, who has totally mastered both the art and the science of right-wing ranting. But for God’s sake, man, at least try to give us something!

  38. Mark Axinn

    Joshua–

    So many people skip over the sins they’d rather pretend are permissable:

    Envy, lust, greed, pride, smug self-rightousness, making malicious comments.

    Fortunately no one on IPR ever commits these sins. Must be because everyone here is so darn perfect.

  39. Mark Axinn

    Cody–

    Burn-out and dissappointment are the name of the game in independent politics.

    I suggest you take a well-earned breather, but don’t call it quits.

  40. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Fauver – ” Other sins ” haven’t organized into a national movement backed by untold millions of dollars to promote their teaching to children as normal, natural, and something which they should do. There are no ” Adulterers Parades,” ” Alcoholics Parades,” ” Envy Parades,” etc. ONLY the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement has developed an, yes, ” agenda ( war plan ) to totally remake our Christian cultural foundations and replace them with their Satanic/Atheist/Humanist/Marquis DeSade opposite. And of course to a wimp/wuss like you my opposition to such a monstrous attack plan is ” vile.”

    Rush Limbaugh uses another more polite term – the ” chickification ” of America. I just call it soul castrated wimps, like yourself, who have been Socially Engineered on the outside and warped by The Enemy of God inside to be totally passive, docile, and prostrate in the face of this horrific attack against the children of our nation. Just as pervert marriage is now being legalized after the 40 year mass production of Socially Engineered drones like yourself ( despite your professed bleats of being a Christian which you use as a defense for your attacks against people like Riley Hood and myself who are actually fighting back ) so will our Christian culture be completely obliterated in another 40 years unless the MEN of this nation – obviously not including you – fight back and protect the nation by stopping the horrific attack for which you are an avid apologist.

    Real men will stand up and fight this monstrous attack against the children of the nation. YOU, on the other hand, and your fellow apologists, drones, and fellow wimps/wusses will attack those on the battlefield and not do a damn thing to stop the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement lest you harm your oh sooooo precious ” image.”

    THAT is why you and your fellows are so totally pathetic.

    You are ” awful ” because you beat your chest about your Christianity and then attack those of us who are actually out on the battlefield fighting The Army of Death as it manifests in its war on our culture, society, and nation.

    The feminization of the men of our nation – the warping/degeneration of them into 98 pound weaklings who get sand kicked in their face and do ZIP about it – means the end of our culture. Kill the men – change them into males ( inferior men ) – and the nation is dead. Of course to the wimps and wusses ( males ) opposing such a catastrophic event/development is ” vile.”

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  41. paulie

    ” Other sins ” haven’t organized into a national movement backed by untold millions of dollars to promote their teaching to children as normal, natural, and something which they should do.

    False! “Greed, pride, smug self-rightousness, making malicious comments,” anger, wrath, and zealotry are the hallmarks of the “Christian” Statist right and the statist left alike. They all want the State to take the place of religion, charity, family and voluntarily organized community.

  42. Joshua Fauver

    Don, again I think you ignore scriptures. You talk about fighting and whatnot and seem to forget that Paul wrote in Ephesians, “For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.” So instead of spewing vile, derogatory, inflammatory remarks, why not fast and pray? Why not, instead of using the word of God to belittle and degrade people you use it to build them up and just share the love of God (which is patient, and kind, and does not keep a record of wrongs) Do you think that getting on here and going off and name calling is accomplishing anything at all? Because let me inform you, it is not.

  43. Cody Quirk

    Josh, you’re not going to get much of a civil, or even a intelligent response out of Don; this is a man that likes to dress up in a devil suit in order to prove a point against public schools, remember.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pX81DiMfP0

    However Don, I will give you some polite advice for once and suggest moving (with your mother) out of California and to a state that will be better suited ‘politically’ for you; your war against the Homosexual/Sodomy etc. Movement in California has already been lost many years ago, and there’s not a chance in hell now that California will ever become a state based on your view of constitutionalism.

  44. Don J. Grundmann, D.C.

    Fauver – You vividly illustrate why the Homosexual/Sodomy Movement is mowing down its opposition like a lawnmower through grass.

    The Homosexual/Sodomy Movement has absolute and total contempt for Christianity. They have total contempt for ” praying and fasting ” because they know that when you are doing that you are NOT opposing them in any way. You are simply doing this to feel good about yourself.

    My friends and I have been on the battlefield many times. We have always asked – Where are the pastors? Where are even other Christians? Answer – They are all ” praying and fasting;” i.e.; doing nothing. Why? Because the Bottom Line is that they are afraid of The Enemy.

    The Bible speaks many times of ” mighty men of God.” These were REAL MEN. They were willing to literally fight on the battlefield against evil. They may have prayed and fasted but they then TOOK ACTION. They were not afraid of being called ” homophobic.” They were not afraid of their precious ” image ” of how others would think of them; i.e.; they were the OPPOSITE of you.

    ” Spewing vile, derogatory, and inflammatory remarks?” I responded on this thread to the utter corruption of Quirk who has the gall to justify his backstabbing of his former IAP friends by including all of his previous lies against myself, Riley Hood, and the CP in his claim to be a Winston Churchill diplomat who was thwarted by all of the meanies who opposed him. He writes this totally elaborate fantasy to blame his failure on everyone but his utterly corrupt and staggeringly stupid self. He blames everyone else for his failure when he is the author of it due to his own character, and actually lack of it.

    Fauver – The ” love of God ” destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for their evil. He kept a record of their wrongs and they paid for those wrongs. The ” love of God ” is not all fluffy and goo-goo. It is not a ” hippie ” type of love. The REAL love of God is kind enough to provide Christ for our redemption and just enough to send us to hell when we reject Him.

    Wake up.

    Don J. Grundmann, D.C. Chairman Constitution Party of California

  45. paulie

    My friends and I have been on the battlefield many times.

    Getting all sweaty and caked in mud, and having to share showers to conserve water, no doubt…

  46. Joshua Fauver

    You totally ignore the scriptures Grundmann, and have the audacity to call me a pseudo-christian. You dare to tell me how much I care about my image and how much Cody and everyone else only cares about their image when you simultaneously insult and tear down everyone around you and follow up with a long list of everything you’re doing and have done and call yourself a “real man”. Really it’s sad. And you want to knock everyone who prays and fasts as people who do nothing. To me it’s honestly mind boggling. What battlefield have you been on? Dressing up in a devil costume and yelling at people that they are going to burn in hell is in your mind a battlefield? How about you go actually and try to minister to someone. But for the love of all that is holy would you please go discover for yourself what the love of God is first? Maybe, again I’m going to suggest this, praying and fasting would help you.

  47. Martin Passoli

    I will be praying for Don Grundmann and his sweaty, mud-soaked, sexually frustrated “battlefield” comrades. I pray they find the loving embrace they so desparately yearn for.

  48. Sean Scallon

    We should all thank Don for providing a vivid example of non-major party “little Napoleon” to observe and study in their natural habitat. His words are the classic examples of how they ring out from the treehouse fort from which the come from.

    I don’t know exactly how the CP is supposed to grow since whatever potential growth could easily go to the IAP if said persons aren’t interested in pure Calvinism as a political doctrine. Besides, you fellows had numerous chances to grow over the past 22 years and it didn’t happen. Partially because of the ideological shamelessness of the GOP, which was to be expected, but also because most people probably don’t want to join a political party that exists mainly it seems to re-fight the Thirty Years War.

    I knew a small group of conservative activists in the early part of the aughts that were strying to start a chapter of the American First Party in Wisconsin. When the AFP imploded in 2001, I suggested to them that they should join up with the Constitution Party and make a media splash in doing so because at that time, they were the only working and viable conservative alternative party. That idea was shot down. “They have baggage.” I was told. I didn’t understand at the time what they meant but unfortunately now I do. And that baggage has cost the CP the AIP line in California and and other state affiliates as well. And all for what? What was it about? There wouldn’t have been and should not have been any support in the CP for a neocon huckster and con artist like Alan Keyes had it not been for said religious divisions. That there were, unfortunately, basically wrecked what had been carefully built. Keyes may well have been that proverbial wrecker/mole always talked about in non-major party circles but as it turns out, he had a lot to work with.

  49. paulie

    Grundmann does provide a useful counterpoint and perhaps some entertainment, but the shtick does get old…and then it doesn’t stop.

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