Farley AndersonPer outgoing party chairman Kelly Gneiting, on November 7, 2015 at their national convention, the Independent American Party nominated Farley Anderson of Utah for President of the United States. Mr. Anderson is the author of a number of books, and wrote a proposed 28th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which all IAP candidates must agree to, as per the party’s bylaws. Gneiting says of the document: “It is incredibly inspired, and something that would, in fact, fix our country.”
The Independent American Party currently has ballot access in New Mexico, Oregon, and Utah. Mr. Anderson has yet to select a running mate.
Also at the convention, Will Christensen was selected to be the party’s new national chairman. Christensen was the party’s presidential candidate in 2012.
I think it’s misleading to say Will Christensen was “the Independent American Party candidate for president in 2012.” He was on the ballot in one state, Oregon, and his label was “Constitution”. The Independent American Party was on the New Mexico ballot in 2012 under that label, but it didn’t run anyone for any New Mexico office except US Senate, and had no connection to Christensen. The Utah Independent American Party wasn’t on the ballot in Utah in 2012, but it got on in Utah in 2014 and got enough votes to remain on for 2016.
I disagree that there is anything misleading in the article. Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee in 2012, it just so happens that he didn’t get on the ballot in any state with that ballot label. If the Libertarian Party nominated Gary Johnson for president, and he got on the ballot everywhere with a different party label, he would still be the Libertarian Party’s nominee. I also see no evidence that the NM IAP had no connection to the national IAP and Will Christensen, they just didn’t put a presidential candidate on the ballot there. Gneiting says they will in 2016.
That article backs me up. Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee, the Oregon CP also nominated him and put him on the ballot. The Oregon CP had already disaffiliated from the Constitution Party, and would later affiliate with the IAP. As far as New Mexico goes, even if you’re right, they are currently the state affiliate of the IAP.
Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee in 2012. This is a fact.
When and where was the national convention (or other event) in which the Independent American Party nominated Will Christensen? Who was the national party chair of the Independent American Party in 2012?
NewFederalist
November 9, 2015
Jed… as a fellow Pennsylvanian just let me say if you are challenging Richard on matters like this you had best have your ducks in a row. Stuff like this is his passion and he is rarely wrong. Just sayin’
I know, and I do hate to be disagreeable since I very much like and respect Mr. Winger, but he seems to have something against the IAP. My statement that Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential candidate in 2012 is factually correct.
NewFederalist
November 9, 2015
Dave Leip seems to agree with Richard over at his site.
I don’t find his site particularly useful. Every resource I’ve used, including Politics1,The Green Papers, Our Campaigns, and others point to Will Christensen as being the IAP presidential candidate, and he is now the party’s chairman. I wasn’t aware that there was any ambiguity on this, and am stunned this is even up for debate.
When and where was the national convention (or other event) in which the Independent American Party nominated Will Christensen? Who was the national party chair of the Independent American Party in 2012?
Plus Will Christensen was the national chairman of the the IAP before Kelly took his place… Only to take Kelly’s place again.
Richard also likes to falsely include the Oregon CP with the national CP’s ballot access & voter registration totals, never mind they left the national CP years ago, but apparently since they share the same name they are grouped together in such categories- according to Mr. Winger’s logic. So if we apply the same logic to the Nevada IAP, then the Nevada affiliate of the national CP should be instead considered an affiliate of the National IAP instead, right?
(Sarcasm off)
Not only does Jed have all his ducks in a row on this one, Richard doesn’t.
Cody Quirk
November 10, 2015
I do like David Leip’s website, but it is not 100% accurate.
An example would be the 2012 presidential election in New Mexico itself, where David’s website lists Justice Party’s Rocky Anderson as the candidate for the Independent American Party in New Mexico; when in fact Mr. Anderson and his running mate actually ran under the ‘New Mexico Independent Party’, which was then on the ballot and also the NM affiliate of the Justice Party.
Jed, you did good research. You were right and I was wrong.
Cody Quirk
November 10, 2015
Ok, I might have been incorrect on the NMIP being a Justice Party affiliate then, as they were formed in order to get Ralph Nader on the ballot for 2008, and then separately nominated Anderson and his running mate for president back in 2012. Yet the IAP in New Mexico did not run Anderson for president in 2012, as the David Leip website incorrectly indicates.
To be fair I had help finding the link, but I don’t think the person who helped me wants to be named publicly.
Wang Tang-Fu
November 15, 2015
I can understand why your unnamed helper would not want to invoke the wrath of Richard Winger. He is well known to be fearsome if you dare cross him.
Jeannetta Stokes
July 30, 2016
Why do people seem to assume that there must be a “National Convention” in order for these smaller political parties to nominate a candidate? With the speed of the Internet, it’s entirely plausible that all the followers of said political party could be reached by email and thereby save hundreds of thousands of dollars (which they likely don’t have) on a stupid convention. Just reading some of the dumb comments people leave. At least it’s entertaining.
I think it’s misleading to say Will Christensen was “the Independent American Party candidate for president in 2012.” He was on the ballot in one state, Oregon, and his label was “Constitution”. The Independent American Party was on the New Mexico ballot in 2012 under that label, but it didn’t run anyone for any New Mexico office except US Senate, and had no connection to Christensen. The Utah Independent American Party wasn’t on the ballot in Utah in 2012, but it got on in Utah in 2014 and got enough votes to remain on for 2016.
I disagree.
Which sentence of mine do you disagree with? Do you disagree with any of my factual statements?
I disagree that there is anything misleading in the article. Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee in 2012, it just so happens that he didn’t get on the ballot in any state with that ballot label. If the Libertarian Party nominated Gary Johnson for president, and he got on the ballot everywhere with a different party label, he would still be the Libertarian Party’s nominee. I also see no evidence that the NM IAP had no connection to the national IAP and Will Christensen, they just didn’t put a presidential candidate on the ballot there. Gneiting says they will in 2016.
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2012/08/oregon-constitution-party-nominates-will-christenson-for-president/
That article backs me up. Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee, the Oregon CP also nominated him and put him on the ballot. The Oregon CP had already disaffiliated from the Constitution Party, and would later affiliate with the IAP. As far as New Mexico goes, even if you’re right, they are currently the state affiliate of the IAP.
Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential nominee in 2012. This is a fact.
When and where was the national convention (or other event) in which the Independent American Party nominated Will Christensen? Who was the national party chair of the Independent American Party in 2012?
Jed… as a fellow Pennsylvanian just let me say if you are challenging Richard on matters like this you had best have your ducks in a row. Stuff like this is his passion and he is rarely wrong. Just sayin’
I know, and I do hate to be disagreeable since I very much like and respect Mr. Winger, but he seems to have something against the IAP. My statement that Will Christensen was the IAP’s presidential candidate in 2012 is factually correct.
Dave Leip seems to agree with Richard over at his site.
I don’t find his site particularly useful. Every resource I’ve used, including Politics1,The Green Papers, Our Campaigns, and others point to Will Christensen as being the IAP presidential candidate, and he is now the party’s chairman. I wasn’t aware that there was any ambiguity on this, and am stunned this is even up for debate.
I think these are valid questions.
Ask someone in the party.
I win.
http://www.independentamericanparty.org/2012/06/independent-american-partys-national-convention-report/
Plus Will Christensen was the national chairman of the the IAP before Kelly took his place… Only to take Kelly’s place again.
Richard also likes to falsely include the Oregon CP with the national CP’s ballot access & voter registration totals, never mind they left the national CP years ago, but apparently since they share the same name they are grouped together in such categories- according to Mr. Winger’s logic. So if we apply the same logic to the Nevada IAP, then the Nevada affiliate of the national CP should be instead considered an affiliate of the National IAP instead, right?
(Sarcasm off)
Not only does Jed have all his ducks in a row on this one, Richard doesn’t.
I do like David Leip’s website, but it is not 100% accurate.
An example would be the 2012 presidential election in New Mexico itself, where David’s website lists Justice Party’s Rocky Anderson as the candidate for the Independent American Party in New Mexico; when in fact Mr. Anderson and his running mate actually ran under the ‘New Mexico Independent Party’, which was then on the ballot and also the NM affiliate of the Justice Party.
http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/
http://sos.state.nm.us/uploads/files/Pages%20from%20ALLNMG12%20CAN%20STATEWIDE.pdf
Yeah, David Leip should certainly fix that mistake indeed.
I thought the NMIP decided not to formally affiliate with the JP? I could be mistaken.
“Not only does Jed have all his ducks in a row on this one, Richard doesn’t.” – Cody Quirk
Well… hush my mouth! 😉
Jed, you did good research. You were right and I was wrong.
Ok, I might have been incorrect on the NMIP being a Justice Party affiliate then, as they were formed in order to get Ralph Nader on the ballot for 2008, and then separately nominated Anderson and his running mate for president back in 2012. Yet the IAP in New Mexico did not run Anderson for president in 2012, as the David Leip website incorrectly indicates.
Thank you, Richard. 🙂
Thanks for finding the answer. If I knew it previously, I forgot.
To be fair I had help finding the link, but I don’t think the person who helped me wants to be named publicly.
I can understand why your unnamed helper would not want to invoke the wrath of Richard Winger. He is well known to be fearsome if you dare cross him.
Why do people seem to assume that there must be a “National Convention” in order for these smaller political parties to nominate a candidate? With the speed of the Internet, it’s entirely plausible that all the followers of said political party could be reached by email and thereby save hundreds of thousands of dollars (which they likely don’t have) on a stupid convention. Just reading some of the dumb comments people leave. At least it’s entertaining.