Presidential Straw Poll at CA LP Convention Shows Johnson as Winner, McAfee in Second Place

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There was a straw poll taken at the end of the Libertarian Party of California’s convention yesterday at a Hilton by the Los Angeles airport. This is following a debate among ten of the candidates the previous evening. Here are the results:

Gary Johnson 19 votes
John McAfee 9 votes
Vermin Supreme 7 votes
Austin Petersen 5 votes
Kevin McCormick 2 votes
Darryl Perry 2 votes
Marc Feldman 1 vote
Joy Waymire 1 vote
Sam Sloan 1 vote
NOTA (None of the Above) 1 vote

Candidates in attendance for the debate were, in alphabetical order: Marc Allan Feldman, Gary Johnson, John McAfee, Kevin McCormick, Austin Wade Petersen, Derrick Michael Reid, Rhett Smith, Sam Sloan, Joy Waymire, and Heidi Zeman.

Vermin Supreme recently did a fundraiser in California, then subsequently announced he had registered Libertarian. I cannot find a listing on the FEC website that he has filed as a candidate, however.

Sam Sloan was showing that he was a candidate for the Democratic party, however, he told me yesterday that the FEC paperwork has simply not yet been updated.

35 thoughts on “Presidential Straw Poll at CA LP Convention Shows Johnson as Winner, McAfee in Second Place

  1. Jacque Donahue

    Can I belatedly cast a vote for John McAfee since I stayed as long as I could but I had at least a 10 hour drive home and I was running on just adrenaline, the natural kind!

  2. Shivany Lane

    The FEC also had been showing Gary Johnson as a Republican but the paperwork clearly is marked as Libertarian. It probably has to do with his 8+ years in politics as a Republican

  3. Edward L Garrett

    Sam Sloan is a well-known agitator who was expelled from the Libertarian Party of New York for submitting fraudulent petitions & has continued to show at LPNY events & disrupt since.

  4. jstryder

    The debate was fun to watch and Feldman clearly won it IMHO. His answers were the best combination of punchy and well thought out. Certainly hope he gets to the debate stage in Orlando.

    I would have picked Feldman if I had not already pledged to Mr. Supreme during his fundraising visit. Although I line up ideologically better with Perry, he was not there. Showing up prepared, as Feldman and others did, counts for a lot. It was a great disappointment that Supreme chose not to attend. If he also ignores the LP nominating process in Orlando, I’ll take it as a release from my pledge.

    Kevin McCormack was a notable also-ran who just missed qualifying for the top-four phase of the debate.

  5. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Dr. Feldman was truly great! I was surprised he only got one vote.

    Hopefully, he’ll have more opportunities to shine between now and the Orlando convention.

  6. ATBAFT

    I’m shocked, shocked, that Gen. Custer didn’t win even though his campaign strategy will get 90% of the voters to vote for him. Shame on the Cal. delegates for not recognizing genius!

  7. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I spoke with Derrick a couple times over the weekend, and I actually like him as a person very much. I wish he would really try to understand some of the criticisms he gets.

    I will admit that many of the candidates rolled their eyes when it was his turn to talk. The only other candidate I saw this for was Petersen, although it wasn’t as obvious.

  8. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    There will be a video available soon. My husband videotaped the entire convention, but it will take a few days to go through everything and start posting them. I hope he starts with the debate video.

  9. Jonathan Jaech

    I hope Allen taped Tim Moen’s talk and will post it soon. And Lily Tang William’s. They were both exceptional, stirring appeals for liberty. The old timers were good too, but those relative newbies really put their heart into it! And used effective speaking techniques also. Quite excellent both.

  10. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    We didn’t hear Tim’s talk. When did he speak? He got most of Lily’s, but she spoke much longer than was expected, so I believe the tape ran out before the end.

    Lily’s talk alone made the whole weekend worthwhile! She was very moving.

  11. Jacque Donahue

    Derrick is on a different plane than us mere mortals. I say that whoever does get the nomination enlist him to work with them on the academic side of the campaign. After all, we all know that winning as President is more about the Person. It is up to that Person to surround himself with brilliant minds outside of the limelight.

    His research may actually be the best thing for 90% of the population, but there is a reason that most newspapers write at a grade school level and “speaking in slogans and memes” seems to make you more likable. Americans tend to vote against their own best interest. It is an odd Phenomenon.

  12. Stewart Flood

    So someone is supporting a democrat in an LP straw poll? That vermin guy was on a news report a month or two ago at the democratic party’s “lesser candidates” debate. I think that’s what they called it. He was on their ballot for the primary but he was banned from the debate for doing something to someone at the last one. Can’t recall what it was, but they banned him.

  13. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Stewart, there was nothing to prevent Mr. Sloan from voting for himself.

    I was shocked to see Mr. Sloan on the debate stage. I checked his FEC filing, and he did indeed file on March 2 of this year as a Democrat. I asked him about it Sunday, and he said that the change would be made soon, and gave me a long explanation that kind of made sense at the time.

  14. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    What’s hilarious is that Vermin Supreme did better than Petersen, who actually did very well at the debate. Vermin Supreme did a fundraiser a few months ago that I wasn’t involved in, but raised some money for us and made several friends.

    Go figure!

  15. Nicholas Sarwark

    So someone is supporting a democrat in an LP straw poll? That vermin guy was on a news report a month or two ago at the democratic party’s “lesser candidates” debate. I think that’s what they called it. He was on their ballot for the primary but he was banned from the debate for doing something to someone at the last one. Can’t recall what it was, but they banned him.

    He glitter bombed Randall Terry. There’s video on the Internet, it’s mildly entertaining.

  16. William Saturn

    Will Sloan or Vermin Supreme be recognized as candidates by the LP?

    As I previously mentioned http://www.independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/03/2012-libertarian-presidential-candidates-where-are-they-now/ Sloan sought (or is seeking) the Democratic presidential nomination and paid the $1,000 to appear on the New Hampshire Primary ballot. Supreme did so as well. The LP list of candidates https://www.lp.org/candidates/presidential-candidates-2016 requires that candidates “are not running for the nomination of any other political party.”

    For the purposes of the list, does entering the New Hampshire Democratic Primary in this same cycle constitute “running for the nomination of [another] political party?”

  17. Stewart Flood

    Does it matter? Is he actually planning on attending the convention and running? Are either of them? Are any of the new candidates — I can’t recall if there are four or five — going to be there?

    This will be an interesting Memorial Day weekend.

  18. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    It’s possible that Vermin Supreme has filed for the Presidency under his real name, but, of course, I don’t know what that is.

    I’ll keep an eye on Sam Sloan to see if his filing gets changed to Libertarian from Democratic. I don’t think he would have been allowed on the debate stage if that had been known, but it doesn’t matter at this point because the debate is over.

  19. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    There are 5 new candidates besides the original twelve we started covering on IPR. Two, of course, have dropped out since then, but that still means there are 15 candidates.

    I do know that Joy Waymire is planning to go to Orlando.

    Last night on FB, I was contacted by a woman who said she will be “aggressively” seeking the Libertarian nomination. She wanted to call me to discuss strategy, but I’m not going to pursue that. I suggested she call the main office and speak with Wes Benedict or Carla.

    I did ask her why she was entering the race at this late date, and she said that someone suggested it Thursday night, although she’d never thought of it. Although she’s been a lifelong Republican, she listened to the debate on Fox and decided nothing said was incompatible with her views.

    So, another newbie will be here soon.

  20. William Saturn

    “It’s possible that Vermin Supreme has filed for the Presidency under his real name, but, of course, I don’t know what that is”

    He has not. He wishes to keep his real name private but some of us have found out what it is. In the past he has filed with the FEC under Vermin Supreme.

  21. Stewart Flood

    So she watched a debate, liked what she heard, and decided to run and try to beat the candidates she liked in the debate?

    Un-F-n-believable!!!

    Of course this is the LP. We don’t ignore the 200 goof candidates like the Ds and Rs do. 🙂

  22. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    That’s what I understood, Stewart. I was astounded, also. Her name is Audrey Addison Williams.

    She does have a history of accomplishments, however, which is something I look at. She calls herself a “spiritualist”, quotes the Bible often, and refers to God as “she”.

    I would say something like “What’s with the LP and quirky women?”, but then I’m one of those, I guess, and there’s really nothing wrong with being quirky. It doesn’t mean I’ll support them for President, though.

    I suspect we’ll hear something formal from Ms. Williams by the end of the week.

  23. Andy

    “Jill Pyeatt Post author
    April 5, 2016 at 18:28
    That’s what I understood, Stewart. I was astounded, also. Her name is Audrey Addison Williams.”

    There seems to be more no namers and weirdos stepping forward this year for the LP’s presidential nomination than usual. There are some no namers and weirdos who pop up every election, but this election seems to more of them than in the past.

  24. George Phillies

    Petersen is advancing the claim

    “If you think his support for policies that would force a Jewish baker to bake Nazi themed cakes was bad, wait until you see his stance on guns and the Second Amendment this week on the second part of the debate”

    I would not repeat this, except I have heard this from an independent source about Johnson at an different location.

  25. Andy

    “Jill Pyeatt Post author
    April 5, 2016 at 19:01
    I’m fascinated by a personality-type who does this. I have an ego–but, wow, not like this.”

    Narcissistic Delusional Nutcase Disorder.

  26. Andy

    ” seems to more of them than in the past.”

    Should read, “seem to have more of them than in the past.”

  27. Jonathan Jaech

    Jill, Tim Moen spoke at the Saturday lunch banquet. The talk was very stirring, especially for us radical libertarian anarchists. While being quite humorous, warm, philosophical and illuminating at the same time. It would be a shame of nobody recorded it. Next time we put a convention like this together, we need to comp some of our volunteer videographers. I saw Mark Herd trying to live stream Tim’s talk before it began, but don’t know what became of that.

  28. itdoesntmatter

    Just thought I’d point out Tim Moen posted his speech himself. I don’t know who he is, but since everyone was talking about him I “Googled” and the first thing I came across was his twitter account, with the top post being a link to a 43 minute Youtube that is labeled “Speech I gave @CaliforniaLP convention this weekend “The Audacity of Hopelessness”

  29. Caryn Ann Harlos

    Petersen’s attacks will help McAfee without McAfee having to left an attack finger.

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