Rick Caldwell: ‘What About Me, Sadowski?’

[NOTE: Steven Thomas Sadowski a registered Libertarian in Massachusetts, recently called for a purge of all anarchists from the Libertarian Party.  Rick Caldwell, an active LP member in Virginia, wrote a response.  IPR readers may be interested in this discussion because the topic seems to come up a lot here and elsewhere.] 

 

 

So what about me, Mr. Sadowski?  I’m an anarchist.

I was a district manager of the Johnson campaign.

I was senior staff on a city council campaign that actually won.

I personally recruited a candidate for the state House of Delegates, who stands a chance of winning his district.

I’m a district chair with the state party, and I’ve tripled my local affiliate’s membership since August, through my outreach efforts, and responses to interest inquiries.

I’ve mentored a young libertarians group that at the time wasn’t supported by the local affiliate, but currently half the board of that affiliate came to the party through that young libertarians group.

The aforementioned young libertarians group has since evolved into a social meeting for local libertarians, because it was so successful as the only local libertarian meeting that occurred at night, that people who could by no definition be classified as young began to consistently show up.  That social meeting has converted more people to the ideas of liberty and the LP than the local affiliate as in it’s 16 years of existence.

I ran a blog that for eight years was the fifth most visited political blog in Virginia, and through my coverage of stories that were ignored by the local media, we’ve saved a guy from the death penalty, exposed and halted the corrupt enforcement of a poorly written pull over law, and exposed corrupt use of Child Protective Services to manipulate a bad law to transfer custody of a child to a lawyer who once worked for them, and got that child back to her birth parents.

I’ve recruited two of my young coworkers at my part time job, one of whom is a poli sci student who now wants to intern with me, and the other is considering a run for Delegate in 2019 in his district.

What strides have we made in 2016 that I am destroying? Should I be purged from the party?

 

57 thoughts on “Rick Caldwell: ‘What About Me, Sadowski?’

  1. Jim Polichak from Long Island

    This takes me way back to the old FLP of New York State except back then the anarchists in the Party wanted to defy the establishment by having a party that refused to run candidates.
    Seemed like a lot of work to me. Instead in 1974 on Long Island we won the Conservative Party nomination in a primary for an assembly seat and broke 10%.

  2. Tony From Long Island

    I wish the anarchist would leave the LP too, but to “purge” them would be Trumpian. Let them leave and form their own party, but the most unlibertarian thing you could do is kick them out.

  3. Caryn Ann Harlos

    Too bad so sad Tony. The 1974 Statement of Principles is pretty clear this IS our Party too. And I am invited to at least 6 state conventions so far to educate people on this.

    We are not going anywhere.

  4. Caryn Ann Harlos

    I need to be grateful to comments like the one in this article. It is why I am being asked to speak at so many different places. People are tired of that mentality.

  5. paulie

    Anarchists have been a big part of the LP since the beginning, especially among the most active members. The LP would not have gotten a lot of the ballot access it did without us, among many other things.

  6. Thomas L. Knapp

    The Libertarian Party did make some strides in 2016. It’s possible that those strides — at the local and state levels — were even a net gain after subtracting the Johnson/Weld disaster. A number of anarchists seem to have been key personnel in that campaign and others.

    The main real plus of the Johnson/Weld campaign that I can see is that some Libertarians gained valuable real-world campaign experience. It’s unfortunate that their hard work was wasted on that particular campaign, but presumably they picked up skills which can be used for actually worthwhile campaigns in the future.

    We did pick up some new members/activists. What usually happens after a presidential campaign is that a few of the new people become disillusioned and quickly disappear, while some others decide that now that they’ve volunteered for one unsuccessful campaign they know everything and spend the next couple of years trying to teach grandpa to suck eggs and eventually either give that up and leave or give that up and become productive, contributing activists. And a handful go directly into productive, contributing activist mode.

    Do those things make up for having a presidential ticket that, given the best opportunity an LP slate has ever had to advance the LP’s purpose (which is, per the party’s bylaws, to give voice to and implement the statement of principles), blew that opportunity right out its ass and made the LP look like a bunch of idiots at every opportunity? I hope so.

    Yeah, I’m an anarchist. I’ve managed winning campaigns for local office candidates and I’ve run winning campaigns for local issues/initiatives. I also served for eight years as a federal officeholder, appointed by Bush the Younger and retained by Obama. What has this Sadowski fellow accomplished in real-world politics?

    If it was possible to purge anarchists from the LP (it isn’t), what would be left would be mostly — not entirely, but mostly — a mutual masturbation club for respectability politics cargo cultists, a place for them to pat each other on the back for picking out the right power ties and convince each other that their single-digit vote totals represent “real politics.”

  7. paulie

    I’d be more interested in seeing the people that belong more in the Republican and Constitution parties go (back or forward) to those parties.

  8. ATBAFT

    “Yeah, I’m an anarchist. …. I also served for eight years as a federal officeholder, appointed by Bush the Younger and retained by Obama.”
    Nice “stealth anarchist” work if you can get it! Some anarchists may have a problem reconciling such activities with their principles. Can you explain to them why it is perfectly acceptable.

  9. Mark

    Because we don’t live in anarchotopia. Similarly, most socialists use money and many, possibly most, work in the private sector. Some even own businesses. Their ideal utopia may be otherwise but reality still exists and most people are not willing to go hide out in a cave or join a commune no matter what their beliefs are.

  10. Steven Sadowski

    Hello. How very “anarchist” of you to write a story and not invite me to give my side. First, just so it’s clear, there are amazing people who work for the LPMA and I don’t want whatever shit storm I dust up to get on them. I speak for me and me alone. I’m merely a person who was able to check “Libertarian” on my voter registration. That’s all. Second, I call bullshit. Every anarchist I know spits on the idea of an organized and legal 3rd party that runs candidates and participates in the voting system. ” Voting is an illusion, a joke, a waste of time….” I’ve heard all the anarchist arguments. So, if you think you’re an anarchist, yet you volunteer tirelessly to get our party on ballot, I’ll call you Madam Butterfly if it makes you happy, but just so you know, in secret, when you can’t hear, no one thinks you’re an anarchist. Lastly, taxation is NOT theft. It’s extortion.

  11. Marc Montoni Post author

    IPR didn’t write it. By publishing your comment and Mr Caldwell’s response, your further replies are invited and certainly welcomed.

  12. paulie

    Hello. How very “anarchist” of you to write a story and not invite me to give my side.

    And yet here you are, giving your side. You can even continue to post followup comments. Imagine that.

    I’m merely a person who was able to check “Libertarian” on my voter registration.

    And I bet not a few anarchists helped lay the groundwork for you to be able to do that.

    Every anarchist I know spits on the idea of an organized and legal 3rd party that runs candidates and participates in the voting system. ” Voting is an illusion, a joke, a waste of time….” I’ve heard all the anarchist arguments.

    Then you must either not be active in the LP or a lot of people you don’t think are anarchists actually are. Shockingly enough, much like Libertarians and even members of the establishment duopoly, not all anarchists agree on tactics. Yes, some anarchists are against electoral politics, while others such as myself believe participation in the state to minimize its extent and in a party which helps start a lot of people on a journey that for a lot of them ends up with being anarchists is justifiable while the state still exists.

    just so you know, in secret, when you can’t hear, no one thinks you’re an anarchist.

    Just to let you know, you should speak for yourself and not for everyone else.

    Lastly, taxation is NOT theft. It’s extortion.

    Most of the time it’s extortion. Sometimes it’s literally theft. If you define taking something that’s not yours as theft, it’s theft. If someone points a gun at you and demands your money is it theft or extortion? What if they are not literally pointing a gun at you that second but you know they have one and will use it if you don’t give them the money?

  13. Marc Montoni Post author

    Now as to your comments… You must not know a lot of anarchists.

    Many of us think being involved in the Libertarian Party is a legitimate means of acting in self-defense.

    Maybe you should expand your circle to include, for instance, some of the anarchists who are deeply involved in the LP… and maybe talk to them instead of demanding they leave without even knowing them.

  14. Andy

    There is not likely to ever be a political party where everyone agrees on every detail of every issue. Every political party has factions and infighting/internal debate. Even among self professed anarchists in the LP there is still arguing/infighting.

    If you take libertarian philosophy to its logical conclusion, it leads to anarchism, or perhaps more accurately, anarcho-capitalism/voluntaryism. So advocating that anarchists be purged from the LP is absurd.

  15. Daniel Fishman

    I think that most of the people who claim to be anarchists don’t understand that the word has gotten away from them.

    Also most anarchists claim that their movement means no leaders, but they purport it to mean no government. I have yet to hear an anarchist describe conflict resolution in a society without a solution that I would call government.

    So I welcome everyone, but I have yet to hear anyone describe a possible utopia in which there would not have to be a police force, which based on my understand in against the principles of Anarchy.

    I welcome enlightenment.

  16. dL

    If it was possible to purge anarchists from the LP (it isn’t), what would be left would be mostly — not entirely, but mostly — a mutual masturbation club for respectability politics cargo cultists, a place for them to pat each other on the back for picking out the right power ties and convince each other that their single-digit vote totals represent “real politics.”

    Actually, I think it would be overrun by the paleo HoppeBot variety. Similar to the Alaskan LP. Respectability Politics, Republican lite wouldn’t stand a chance. Suddenly, the cargo cultists would have to resort to the bag of tricks known as “reaching for principle” to thwart the invasion, but the paleoBots would just whine, “Oh, I’m not pure enough… whah, whah, whah, PURIST!” And they would march right around that maginot line of Gary Johnson principle.

  17. Andy

    Daniel Fishman said: “So I welcome everyone, but I have yet to hear anyone describe a possible utopia in which there would not have to be a police force, which based on my understand in against the principles of Anarchy.

    I welcome enlightenment.”

    Daniel, check out my Libertarian Zone concept. It is a proposal for a voluntary contract based society based on libertarian principles. It would have no official government, the people who reside in The Libertarian Zone would “govern” themselves via enforcement of The Libertarian Zone contract.

    The proposal would not require everyone in the world, or even in the present day USA, to adopt libertarian principles. Think of it in terms of a giant condo association, but for libertarians only. There could be multiple libertarian zones, like different private cities, that could implement the general concept but have different ideas on the details of how to best implement the concept.

    Here is the link (note that this was a collection of comments I made in message threads that somebody else pieced together for an article):

    http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/07/andy-jacobs-the-libertarian-zone/

  18. dL

    I have yet to hear an anarchist describe conflict resolution in a society without a solution that I would call government.

    Might want to get out more…besides the economic work of David Friedman(the machinery of freedom) or the political science work of David Gauthier, you have the vast evidence of dispute resolution mechanisms over the internet. Given that public network interactions do not take place over any one particular jurisdiction, this has never been any reliance on any government. Not to mention the rather significant expanse of the shadow economy, DarkNets that obviously can’t rely on government. I will also add anecdotally that any legal dispute in business that I’ve been involved in was settled in arbitration. Never went to the court system.

  19. Jill Pyeatt

    besides the economic work of David Friedman

    I should probably already know the answer to this…but is this the same David Friedman that Trump has tapped for his administration?

  20. paulie

    I think that most of the people who claim to be anarchists don’t understand that the word has gotten away from them.

    No, we understand perfectly well that there are different kinds of anarchists just like there are different kinds of libertarians.

    Also most anarchists claim that their movement means no leaders,

    Really?

    I have yet to hear an anarchist describe conflict resolution in a society without a solution that I would call government.

    There are actually whole libraries of literature on non-territorial monopoly conflict resolution.

    http://praxeology.net/anarcres.htm for example.

    So I welcome everyone, but I have yet to hear anyone describe a possible utopia in which there would not have to be a police force

    The modern “police force” is a relatively recent concept, dating back only to the 1800s iirc.

    I welcome enlightenment.

    You came to the right place. Consider this your moment of zen.

  21. Tony From Long Island

    Caryn: . . . . .Too bad so sad Tony. The 1974 Statement of Principles is pretty clear this IS our Party too. And I am invited to at least 6 state conventions so far to educate people on this. . . . . We are not going anywhere. . . .

    Just my personal preference. I clearly am not for any sort of ridiculous purge or kicking people out. I left the LP because of my strong philosophical disagreement with anarchists (among other reasons). I personally feel the LP would be better off and more “credible” without anarchists, but that’s just me.

    I’m sure there are plenty of things we also agree on. Every party has factions. I almost didn’t respond to this thread because I don’t want to unnecessarily upset someone who I know is very passionate about this issue . . . you.

  22. Marc Montoni Post author

    Please note that in the original version of this article, the italicized note at the top could have been construed to suggest Mr Sadowski was an officer in the Massachusetts LP affiliate.

    That reference has been corrected to show, as Mr Sadowski indicated in the comments, that he is a registered Libertarian with no suggestion that he is an officer.

  23. paulie

    I should probably already know the answer to this…but is this the same David Friedman that Trump has tapped for his administration?

    No.

  24. Caryn Ann Harlos

    Steven Thomas,

    So you have never met an active Party anarchist? I really don’t care what you think I am. But your response here is completely incoherent and disingenuous. If all these Party anarchists aren’t really “anarchists” then there is nothing to purge. I note in your FB response you called minarchists “fringe” and referred to one as “your kind.”

    And “your kind” eh? Is that like “you people”?

    I think someone needs to sit down with the Statement of Principles and our Bylaws and actually read them. Novel idea I know. Wake up minarchists, this is why I say you and I- we are natural allies.

    But you, sir, are utterly ignorant of what our Bylaws say are our foundational principles and the history that led to them. But that certainly hasn’t stopped you from making purge pronouncements.

    SMH.

    But thank you. Ignorance like this is why I have been invited to speak at numerous conventions and other speaking engagements. People are tired of this mentality and are hungry to hear about unity. So I am deeply grateful. The doors being opened to anarchists such as myself are priceless. Keep it up.

  25. Caryn Ann Harlos

    Tony,

    Thank you for your consideration. Yes I am passionate about this issue as it touches upon my identity and a Party I give a great deal for, and I seek more peace, and more unity. And I have not always been where I am now- I came into the Party as a small-state Constitutionalist, and the Party turned me into an anarchist in short order (10 months to be exact). But having held several different views in the same Party, I seek more peace and unity intra-faction. Stuff like the OP drives me nuts, and it really is contra-indicated by the Statement of Principles and our Bylaws, but most people who make pronouncements like the one highlighted in the article can’t be troubled to at least be educated about it (even if they still disagree).

    I put in about 35 hours a week into the Party. I would hazard a guess, and I might be so off-base to be laughable, but I would guess that Sadowski maybe, maybe does a couple of hours a month. Most people who act like that fit that mold – though sometimes my generalization is proven wrong.

  26. wredlich

    1. Libertarian author Heinlein described a non-governmental conflict resolution system in “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.” It should also be noted that the governmental conflict resolution system is far from perfect and often deeply flawed.

    2. If an anarchist libertarian were elected to office, he or she would not be able to instantly end government and install an anarchic utopia. I’m sure there are other views, but an anarchist who gets elected should work toward reducing the harms of government (primarily by reducing government). The anarchic utopia might never be realized but we can work toward that end.

    3. When the VP candidate endorses the Democratic ticket repeatedly, many of us (even the non-anarchists) do not consider that progress.

  27. D. Frank Robinson

    I was a minarchist co-founder of the Libertarian Party with David Nolan. I am now an anarchist. I don’t want to purge Mr. Sadowski. What’s my violation of the NAP, sir?

  28. Just Some Random Guy

    Lastly, taxation is NOT theft. It’s extortion.

    This is true. However, I believe “taxation is extortion” is significantly less catchy (even if it does rhyme).

  29. Andy

    Government does not always ask when they take money or other property from people, sometimes they just take it, and this is theft.

  30. George Phillies

    Readers should note that in Massachusetts there is a Libertarian Party, composed of voters who have registered Libertarian, of which Mr Sadowski is (see his note above) a member. There is also a Libertarian Association of Massachusetts composed of dues-paying members, which is the national party affiliate.

    In Massachusetts, with one exception you get on the ballot via nominating papers signed by voters. The organizations noted above have no direct role in the process, because here in Massachusetts we mostly cut the party bosses out of the ballot access process.

    The exception is President, but nothing that happens before 2018 gives either group the ability to put a Presidential candidate on the ballot in 2020.

  31. Thomas L. Knapp

    “Some anarchists may have a problem reconciling such activities with their principles. Can you explain to them why it is perfectly acceptable.”

    My position was local draft board member. My oath was to “administer the Selective Service Code fairly and even-handedly.” What could be more fair and even-handed than approving deferments for anyone who wanted one?

  32. Michael H. Wilson

    Mr. Sadowski I must thank you. I will let Wes Benedict know you think I should be purged and am willing to go on my own volition. No need to push. I know when I am not wanted. I was born in Melrose. I am sure you might know where that is. Well maybe not. Anyhow I always looked up to some of those old guys buried there in Boston.

    Anyway now that you have told me people like me are not needed I’ll get gone. I just wish you had said something earlier because I have put a lot of time, money and effort into this movement. I didn’t expect to get rid of the state overnight. It could take a few hundred years. maybe even a thousand but keeping the goal in mind is important. After all people are still arguing over the Bill of Rights and that is a few years old to say the least. I never thought people would turn on the idea of building a society based on peace, dignity and mutual respect but you have shown me how wrong I was.

  33. George Phillies

    Michael,
    Sadowski is not exactly representative of the Libertarian Association.
    Please stay around.
    George

  34. Andy

    George, there is a rumor that William Weld is going to stick around the Libertarian Party, and another rumore that he is going to run for for US Senate in Massachusetts. Would Weld have to get nominated to run for US Senate by the LP of Massachusetts in order to be able to gather petition signatures to get on the ballot for US Senate as a Libertarian Party candidate, or could he petition to get on the ballot as a Libertarian Party candidate without being nominated by the LP of MA?

    I know that the LP of MA is now a recognized party in MA. Does this mean that LP candidates get a primary, or do they go straight to the general election ballot?

    I strongly dislike Weld, and I think that he is bad for the LP, so I hope that he does not run for office as a Libertarian Party candidate ever again, and if he tries to do it, I hope that there is a way for LP members in MA to block him, and if there is, I hope they have the good sense to exercise this option.

  35. Tony From Long Island

    Warren: ” . . . . .3. When the VP candidate endorses the Democratic ticket repeatedly, many of us (even the non-anarchists) do not consider that progress. . . . ”

    *sigh* Are we going to do this again? Preferring ANYONE over Darth Trump is not “endorsing.” Words matter. We are learning that more and more each day.

  36. Tony From Long Island

    Lord knows we wouldn’t want a competitive senate candidate Andy!!!!

    Weld would ensure Sen. Warren wins re-election (which is just about certain anyway) but it would also ensure that hate mongerer Curt Schilling would have no chance. Weld might even beat Schilling.

    Run Bill Run!!!!

  37. JT

    What I am hoping for is that Weld will run as a Libertarian and take most of his support away from Pocahontas Warren, allowing Curt Schilling to be elected to the Senate as a Republican and proud Trump supporter, adding to the growingly overwhelming Republican majority. With nationalistic Republicans forming a clear and growing majority in all three branches of government, and at the national, state and local levels, we can really start to make the badly needed changes that this country needs.

    At this point the Democrats will put up some MSM (aka Fake News) anointed savior such as Patrick Deval or Cory Booker, or perhaps Pocahontas Warren herself, but Bill Weld as the Libertarian Presidential candidate will once again split the Democrat vote and help Keep America Great by giving President Trump an even more resounding re-election victory than Presidents Nixon and Reagan had. My prediction is that Democrats will get three electoral votes – DC – and Republicans will take everything else, including enough seats in the Senate to keep Democrats from filibustering. That is my vision for 2020 and we will transform that vision into reality.

  38. Andy

    Tony From Long Island
    January 31, 2017 at 08:10
    Warren: ‘ . . . . .3. When the VP candidate endorses the Democratic ticket repeatedly, many of us (even the non-anarchists) do not consider that progress. . . . ‘

    *sigh* Are we going to do this again? Preferring ANYONE over Darth Trump is not ‘endorsing.’ Words matter. We are learning that more and more each day.”

    It is a bad policy for a Libertarian Party candidate to show favoritism toward either of the major party candidates. If they prefer one of the other, then why are they even in the race? Either focus all of your effort on supporting your campaign and the party you were nominated to represent, or don’t run.

  39. Andy

    Bill Weld is quite possibly the worst Libertarian Party candidate ever. I think that he was actually worse than Bob Barr, because as bad as Bob Barr was, at least Barr never got on national television and stumped for one of his major party opponents.

    Weld should be kept far away from any Libertarian Party nominations, and the Libertarian Party in general.

    I don’t want this clown representing me in any manner, and I’m willing to bet that a large number of LP members agree with me on this.

  40. Andy

    I could see maybe offering Weld a little bit of forgiveness if the major party candidate he was running against and stumping for at the same time had at least some strong libertarian leanings (even then it would still beg the question of why he was in the race), but Hillary Clinton was a dreadful candidate who is not even remotely libertarian.

    Let’s not forget how Weld grossly misrepresented the Libertarian Party’s platform on multiple occasions, and how he donated money to the big government Republican candidate for Governor of New Hampshire who was running against a Libertarian Party candidate, in a race where the Libertarian Party candidate needed to get a certain percent of the vote in order for the LP of New Hampshire to remain on the ballot for the next two years.

    Bill Weld should be banished from the Libertarian Party for life.

  41. Rebel Alliance

    My guess is that post is probably the biggest thing Sadowski has “accomplished” in the LP. Don’t worry too much about Sadowski. After complaining, he’ll fade away in a year or two. Then it’ll be up to the anarchists to continue pulling the weight in the LP.

  42. Andy

    “Rebel Alliance
    January 31, 2017 at 16:12
    My guess is that post is probably the biggest thing Sadowski has ‘accomplished’ in the LP. Don’t worry too much about Sadowski. After complaining, he’ll fade away in a year or two. Then it’ll be up to the anarchists to continue pulling the weight in the LP.”

    Yeah. I’ve never even heard of this Sadowski guy. Why was this even newsworthy?

  43. Paul

    “Yeah. I’ve never even heard of this Sadowski guy. Why was this even newsworthy?”

    Certainly not because of Sadowski. It’s worthy of discussion because it’s a sentiment a lot of people are expressing in many different venues, such as facebook, and this just so happened to be an example of it.

  44. NewFederalist

    “Weld should be kept far away from any Libertarian Party nominations, and the Libertarian Party in general.

    I don’t want this clown representing me in any manner, and I’m willing to bet that a large number of LP members agree with me on this.” – Andy

    I’m not an LP member anymore and I agree that Weld was a terrible choice for the vice presidential nomination. I don’t see how banning a person is libertarian, however.

  45. dL

    Bill Weld is quite possibly the worst Libertarian Party candidate ever.

    No, I think Wayne Allen Root has a lock on that distinction.

  46. Andy

    Shunning a person who has violated libertarian principles (on multiple occasions in the case of Bill Weld) is perfectly libertarian.

    I agree that Wayne Root was also a poor candidate for the LP, but as bad as he was, I think that Bill Weld is actually worse.

  47. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    Purge anarchists? You mean “Purge any one who believes in the right to alter or abolish government”, a plank of the Libertarian Party and a statement from the Declaration of Independence.

    Because this includes the right of anarchists to educate and lobby others on another way of organizing society. And it includes the right to secede and create one’s own vision of an “anarchist” society.

    I consider myself a libertarian decentralist. I don’t know if I’d want to live in an anarchist or minimal state community. I’d have to checkout the alternatives and see what works best for me.

    So are supporters of the Declaration and libertarian decentralists ALSO to be purged? Such ignorant silliness…

  48. NewFederalist

    “Shunning a person who has violated libertarian principles (on multiple occasions in the case of Bill Weld) is perfectly libertarian.” – Andy

    Shunning is far different than banning. You previously said banning.

  49. langa

    I’m not an LP member anymore and I agree that Weld was a terrible choice for the vice presidential nomination. I don’t see how banning a person is libertarian, however.

    Well, depending on how one interprets the Pledge, it could be argued that Weld committed fraud by joining the LP in the first place. Certainly, if true, that would justify expelling him.

  50. Andy

    NewFederalist
    February 1, 2017 at 01:28
    ‘Shunning a person who has violated libertarian principles (on multiple occasions in the case of Bill Weld) is perfectly libertarian.’ – Andy

    Shunning is far different than banning. You previously said banning.”

    Jesus-fucking-Christ! Shun, ban, what the fuck difference does it make? How about kick his ass out of the party? Do I have to be any more blunt? If Weld shows his mug at another LP meeting, call the Hans-Hermannn Hoppe physical removal service. Burn his membership card and remove his name from the list of party members. This guy is a toxic establishment scumbag who massively screwed the party and the cause over on multiple occasions. Keeping him around and giving him another chance to screw us sends the message that we are the world’s biggest suckers, which will attract more con-men like him. So to hell with this guy.

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