Open Thread for August, 2017

Here we go again–a new month is beginning. Here is a place to post anything that doesn’t fit into another thread. If you think IPR readers might be interested in something you have to share, post it here. Please make sure you don’t plagiarize anything or libel anyone, and you’ll probably be just fine.

44 thoughts on “Open Thread for August, 2017

  1. Thomas L. Knapp

    Hey, Tony from Long Island — I have a question for you that’s completely unrelated to politics (well, OK, nothing is COMPLETELY unrelated to politics, but this is about music). Could you give me a yell via the contact form at my blog (knappster.blogspot.com) or by email at kubby dot communications at gmail dot com?

  2. George Phillies

    Moving this to where it belonged:

    Interesting related article (liberal rant)
    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/dems-can-abandon-the-center-because-the-center-doesnt-exist.html

    Graphical data “there are almost no libertarians in the United States”)

    https://www.voterstudygroup.org/reports/2016-elections/political-divisions-in-2016-and-beyond

    Much interesting related material, including heavy use of Nolan-type charts without realizing they are Nolan charts. However, these are honest Nolan charts, not charts rigged to stuff people into the libertarian quadrant.

  3. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Does anyone have a suggestion on a video to post at the end of the article? I’m not feeling too humorous lately, but we all desperately need to laugh.

  4. Andy

    Sad news, conspiracy researchers and author, Jim Marrs, has passed away. I have a couple of his books, “Rule By Secrecy,” and “Inside Job: Unmasking the 9/11 Conspiracies,” and I recommend both of these. I actually met Jim Marrs in person, when he spoke at The Granada Forum in the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles, CA back in the early or mid 2000’s. I remember him saying that the people who control the mainstream media can’t control what every news reporter does (note that Jim Marrs used to work as a newspaper reporter), but they can control the distribution of news stories, as in “they” can decide which stories get lots of publicity, and which stories get buried.

    Rest In Peace, Jim Marrs.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRaFuvGnx6c

  5. George Phillies

    And for those hoping that the duopoly parties will knock themselves out, it is amusing to note that someone in the DC criminal investigations has actually indicated that he would plead the fifth. I suppose if enough people lose all faith in the current government, the system will become less stable.

  6. Just Some Random Guy

    I noticed that the Libertarian Party recently added a decent number of candidates to their Candidates page:
    https://www.lp.org/2017-candidates/

    So if anyone’s looking for Libertarian candidates to support (volunteering, donating, etc.) it could be worth a look.

  7. Tony From Long island

    Hey Andy, did you happen to see 60 minutes last night? There was a good piece about the parents of Sandy Hook victims. I guess CBS was able to cover their acting fees.

    Since you always want to debate people, why not head up to New Town and debate some of them?

  8. paulie

    I haven’t read the article but to my knowledge DSA is more of a Democratic Party caucus than a party of its own. Do they have candidates under their own brand on the ballot anywhere?

  9. Aiden James

    Here’s one for you; Article 1 Section 10 Clause 1:

    “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.”
    ….
    “make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts;”

    It’s unconstitutional for the states to compel any one to pay taxes in anything other than gold or silver.

  10. Andy

    “Tony From Long island
    August 7, 2017 at 08:15
    Hey Andy, did you happen to see 60 minutes last night? There was a good piece about the parents of Sandy Hook victims. I guess CBS was able to cover their acting fees.”

    I don’t trust the mainstream media. They have been caught lying, spinning, and putting out “fake news” and government propaganda so many times that I should not even have to discuss it.

    “Since you always want to debate people, why not head up to New Town and debate some of them?”

    Maybe you and I could ride up there together, and maybe we could call up the Infowars crew and see if any of them want to bring a camera.

  11. Tony From Long Island

    I wouldn’t trust you behind the wheel with me in the passenger seat. . . . . . You bring Alex Jones I’ll bring the Young Turks.

    It wouldn’t last long. You’d probably be pelted with stones by the parents of the murdered children.

  12. George Phillies

    “It’s unconstitutional for the states to compel any one to pay taxes in anything other than gold or silver.”

    Crazy nonsense.

    The Federal government has taken care of this with Federal Reserve notes.

  13. langa

    Unfortunately, the FG has “taken care of” a lot of constitutional obstacles with Federal Reserve notes.

  14. Daemon Sims

    Emeryville, Emeryville. Why do you remind me of Oz?

    Could it be your yellow brick pathway beside your favorite cause?

    Or was I just too far from Kansas to avoid that young girl in blue?

    You may not be the Emerald City but you’re Green thanks to Mayor Donahue.

  15. George Phillies

    Virginia Governor polling with Libertarian included:

    Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam holds a 44 – 38 percent lead over Republican Ed Gillespie in the Virginia governor’s race, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Libertarian Party candidate Cliff Hyra has 4 percent. Northam had a 47 – 39 percent lead over Gillespie in a June 21 survey by the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University. This earlier survey did not include a third party candidate. Independent voters back the Republican 39 – 30 percent, with 8 percent for Hyra. Democrats back Northam 89 – 5 percent, with 1 percent for Hyra, as Republicans back Gillespie 89 – 1 percent, with 3 percent for Hyra.

  16. Thomas L. Knapp

    “It’s unconstitutional for the states to compel any one to pay taxes in anything other than gold or silver.”

    That’s not exactly what it says. What is says is “No State shall … make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.”

    In context that seems to mean that the states themselves may only pay their debts in gold and silver coin.

    The section does not seem to have been amended.

  17. dL

    Off Topic. Freedom Fest hosted a topic on the libertarianism of Star Trek, the original series. The original Star Trek was before my time so apart from the occasional haphazard viewing of syndicated reruns , I never really sat down to watch it. Fortunately, the remastered version of the series is streaming on Amazon Prime, so I actually sat down to watch it.

    Conclusion: The original Star Trek was a 60s progressive cold war period piece masquerading as a space western. Any libertarian interpretation is pure revisionism. I detected no libertarian character study in Spock, though I did notice the Spock character was more prone to emotion in the TV series compared to the movie franchise.

  18. Daemon Sims

    The recent Star Trek movies were all bad. It’s a bunch of children playing, writing, and directing characters they don’t at all understand. It lacks any originality or common sense to “reinvent” characters from the original rather than continue on in with the universe trajectory from The Original > New Generation > What they should’ve done with the movie series. Shame on J.J. Abrams.

  19. paulie

    A socialist friend of mine once tried to push the idea of basing the world’s economy on Star Trek to me. I had to point out that they had replicators – thus no scarcity, as in the real world – and that the setting was on board a military vessel with a military chain of command. As a fellow peacenik, he was not too fond of me pointing that part out.

  20. paulie

    The starfleet directive to not intervene in the affairs of the planets they encounter seems libertarian… but the show depicts the crew breaking that directive constantly.

  21. DJ

    Ran across this which I think is interesting from the perspective of grand kids. The future doesn’t bode well for them, especially when they’re influenced by grand parents like me and parents like my son who leans heavily libertarian.

    Generation X needs to save America from millennials

    http://nypost.com/2017/08/05/generation-x-needs-to-save-america-from-millennials/?utm_campaign=iosapp&utm_source=facebook_app&utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=fa8e30c2d6-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_08_12&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-fa8e30c2d6-83900825

  22. William Saturn

    I’m writing an article about Charlottesville. There’s so much to take in. Tomorrow I’ll visit a nearby Confederate cemetary for inspiration.

  23. Tony From Long Island

    Daemon

    The recent Star Trek movies were all bad. It’s a bunch of children playing, writing, and directing characters they don’t at all understand. It lacks any originality or common sense to “reinvent” characters from the original rather than continue on in with the universe trajectory from The Original > New Generation > What they should’ve done with the movie series. Shame on J.J. Abrams.

    Although I was entertained by the second and third ones, I couldn’t agree more!!

    p.s. maybe you should change your name to DAIMON 🙂 Only true nerds will get that! 😛

  24. George Phillies

    Charlottesville may provide an interesting excuse for the duopoly parties, under the guise of suppressing the extreme right or the extreme left, to suppress all third parties.

  25. Tony From Long Island

    The “extreme left” had nothing to do with Charlottesville. George, are you really doing the “many sides” Trumpism?

  26. DJ

    Tony From Long Island
    August 16, 2017 at 08:13

    The “extreme left” had nothing to do with Charlottesville. George, are you really doing the “many sides” Trumpism?
    ……………

    LOL…..

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