Andy Jacobs: Interview with Adam Kokesh (video)

From the video description:

This interview was conducted on Adam Kokesh’s Taxation Is Theft Tour stop in Columbus, Ohio, at Ohio State University. Subjects covered include Adam’s exploratory run for the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination, his campaign platform, political strategy, the current state of the Libertarian Party, and more.

IPR has also sent Kokesh and his campaign some print questions from several of our readers and writers. We haven’t heard back, but will try again in the comments here if we can get Adam Kokesh to join us here.

56 thoughts on “Andy Jacobs: Interview with Adam Kokesh (video)

  1. Tony From Long Island

    His “Liberty Mobile” looks like the bathroom at a rock club I used to play at in the 90’s.

    As soon as Andy said ” . . . running for NOT President . . . ” I stopped.

  2. Andy

    “Tony From Long Island
    November 1, 2017 at 15:24
    His ‘Liberty Mobile’ looks like the bathroom at a rock club I used to play at in the 90’s.”

    Adam started a tradition of having activists he meets around the country signing the inside of his Freedom Mobile.

    “As soon as Andy said ” . . . running for NOT President . . . ‘ I stopped.”

    You are a closed minded individual, who is so committed to the cause of liberty, that you vote for Democrats, so I’m not surprised.

  3. paulie Post author

    Here’s the print questions we sent the campaign about 2 weeks ago. I just re-sent with a link to this thread and an invite to answer as many or as few as they have time for when they get a chance.


    On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:17 AM, paulie wrote:

    OK, we have an initial set of questions. You don’t have to answer all of them if you don’t want to, just as many as you feel like and have time for. The questions come from several of our writers and readers, some being friendly and some who were hostile. I cleaned up the language in some of the more hostile questions so that the substance of the question can be addressed without unnecessary tone. If we get a response to a lot of the questions (hopefully all of them but I realize there are a lot) we’ll publish them as an interview article, and send you the link. There will then be a comment section (most of the “action” at IPR is more in the comments than in the articles), where we hope you will participate for additional questions.

    IPR is read by a lot of LP “insiders” as well as people who pay attention to “third” parties and independents in general, and we all see see a decent amount of traffic from search engines, facebook links and other links elsewhere.

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    JW1 revised) What do you think the last LP presidential campaign, or the last several, should have done differently/better? Do you think LP convention delegates tend to use the wrong criteria in evaluating candidates? Do you think they have learned their lesson on this, as a whole? Or, is it a matter of who shows up, and do you believe that you can out-organize other campaigns in turning out enough supporters to the convention to capture the nomination?

    JW2) Do you plan to appeal to so-called pragmatic Libertarians, and if so, how?

    CM 1) You ran for U.S. Congress as a Republican in New Mexico. Why not as a Libertarian? Have you permanently converted from Republican to Libertarian, or do you plan to switch back and forth?

    CM 2 revised) In previous IPR comments Andy Jacobs (whom you talked to in Columbus, video interview to be published later -p) points out you have embraced some positions of Hans H. Hoppe.

    Corollary 1: To what extent do you agree or disagree with Hoppe’s immigration views?

    Corollary 2: What is your position on immigration?

    Corollary 3: Are there any positions of Hoppe or the so-called alt right which you find to be repulsive and worthy of condemnation and dissociation?

    Corollary 4: Do you believe that associating libertarianism with the alt right is a big problem for the party and/or movement?

    AA1) Suppose the federal government actually is dissolved. Do you anticipate problems such as those which occur with international immigration and trade now happening between states? For example: would a person from Louisiana visiting a relative in Connecticut have to apply for a travel visa? Will there be roundups of “illegal” native born Californians who cross into Nevada and Arizona without permission? Will New Jerseyans caught in NYC without a work permit be held in the Tombs, Rikers, or a new prison camp on Staten Island? Will citizens of Indiana and Wisconsin commuting to jobs in Chicago have to cross international border checkpoints and how much will that delay their commute? And so on.

    Will we see former US states slapping each other with trade tariffs and quotas? Will we see gun confiscation up north and theocracy down south?

    XX1) Does the President have the power to dissolve the federal government? If yes, what would be the legal/constitutional mechanism for doing so? If not, is this a problem for your campaign?

    Xx2) During the fallout from the controversy over your breakup with Marcy and one or more other then campaign staffers quitting at the same time, you wrote that you had some problems with a personally authoritarian leadership style that you learned in the military and that you were working on this problem. Do you believe you have made significant progress on that? Are you getting along well with your current staff and significant other if any? Do you anticipate more issues with staff shakeups going forward?

    XX3) Have you made any attempt at creating broadcast-length (30 second and 1 minute) youtube ads that your supporters could pay to put on the air if they chose to? If not, do you have any plans for doing so?

    Xx4) How closely do you plan on cooperating (or not) in sharing your campaign data and lists with the LNC and/or state and local LPs?

    Xx5) As additional candidates join the race, how closely do you intend to work with them in setting up joint forums/debates? Will you debate only certain candidates or any who will debate you? If the former, what criteria will you use to choose which ones you will or won’t share the stage with?

    How about general election debates – who will or won’t you debate from the other parties and independents? Do you have a strategy to get invited to the main debates with the Republican and Democratic nominees? If not, do you have a strategy to gain maximum publicity from those debates?

    Xx6) Do you plan on seeking or accepting the nomination of any party besides the LP? Will you support whoever wins the LP nomination, only yourself if you win, or do you have specific criteria on who you will or won’t support if it is not you – if so, what are they? If you are unhappy with the LP nominee, will you seek or accept any ballot lines that you can still get for yourself at that point?

    Xx7) Have you made much in the way of an attempt of getting on to not specifically libertarian shows on broadcast radio and/or TV? Is this something you plan on doing as part of your campaign stops going forward? How about submitting editorials to daily and weekly and college publications around the country?

    Xx8) Given that LP nominates P and VP candidates separately, but P candidates sometimes endorse VP candidates for the nomination, do you plan on working as a “team” with a candidate for the VP nomination? Just let the delegates choose whoever they wish with no meddling from you if you are the P candidate? Would there be some plausible VP candidates you would have a problem being on the same ticket with? If you do not get the P nomination, will you run for the VP nomination as sometimes happens with candidates who do not get the P nomination?

    These questions suppose that the bylaw will not change which allows these offices to be voted on separately. What do you think of amending the bylaws to make the ticket one which is voted on jointly? Are you in favor or opposed to this change and is it important to you either wat?

    xx9) Tell us a few things that are not generally known about you, especially anything that may come us a surprise to people.

    xx10) Other than dissolving the federal government, will you campaign on any specific issues? Suppose you somehow get elected President but do not have the power to dissolve the federal government, do you have a “backup plan”?

    TLI 1 revised) Do you believe lack of experience in lower office will be a problem in running for (not) president? Or do you see it as a more of a plus? Why or why not?

    TLI 2 revised) What do you think of so-called “conspiracy theories”? Do you believe in some yourself? Are you open-minded about them? Do you plan on making them campaign themes or will you try to avoid talking about them? Do you see association with conspiracy theories and theorists to be detrimental to the public image of the party and your campaign, or do you see them as a fertile recruiting ground for new supporters?

    TL3) How much money do you realistically hope to raise and if you qualify, would you accept matching funds? Would any money you raise be used for television advertising?

    KL 1) You met 2018 LP Illinois lt governor candidate David Earl WIlliams III before the 2016 election at an event in northern Illinois. Would you consider David Earl Williams III as a possible VP candidate?

    KL 2) What are your thoughts on the Constitution Party?

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    Thanks for your consideration and we have to hear back from you.

    paulie 205-534-1622

  4. Andy

    “paulie Post author
    November 1, 2017 at 15:36
    Here’s the print questions we sent the campaign about 2 weeks ago. I just re-sent with a link to this thread and an invite to answer as many or as few as they have time for when they get a chance.”

    Some of the questions asked here were already covered by Adam in other published interviews or statements, or were covered by me during conversations that were off camera (Adam did a two day event in Columbus, and I went to both days (as did a few others)).

    I also met Adam at the national convention in Orlando in 2016, as well as when he was on tour later in 2016 at his stop in Philadelphia, so although I am not working for his campaign in any capacity, nor have I officially endorsed him for the 2020 nomination (I have endorsed him for running for the nomination, but I’d have to see who else enters the race, and what else happens between now, and when it gets closer to the time of the nomination, before I could officially endorse anyone, so I may, or may not, end up endorsing Adam for the nomination), but, after talking to him for awhile in Orlando, Philadelphia, and Columbus, and having seen a bunch of his videos online for years, I think that I can answer most of these questions with a pretty good degree of accuracy.

    “JW1 revised) What do you think the last LP presidential campaign, or the last several, should have done differently/better? Do you think LP convention delegates tend to use the wrong criteria in evaluating candidates?”

    Adam has not been happy with the last three presidential tickets, although he is a bit “softer” when it comes to criticizing Gary Johnson than I am. He is on friendly terms with Gary Johnson, but he does not consider him to be a legitimate libertarian.

    “Do you think they have learned their lesson on this, as a whole? Or, is it a matter of who shows up, and do you believe that you can out-organize other campaigns in turning out enough supporters to the convention to capture the nomination?”

    He thinks that it is a matter of who shows up at the conventions, which is why he is trying to build up a big support base, because he wants them to get involved in the party (if they are not already), and start showing up at state and national conventions.

    “CM 1) You ran for U.S. Congress as a Republican in New Mexico. Why not as a Libertarian? Have you permanently converted from Republican to Libertarian, or do you plan to switch back and forth?”

    He ran is a Republican because he was inspired by Ron Paul, and he tried to go the Ron Paul Republican route. He has had nothing to do with the Republican Party since that campaign, and Ron Paul’s runs, ended. He said that he thinks that the Republican Party is a corrupt organization, especially after the way Ron Paul got treated in the primaries, and he does not see it as a viable option for real change.

    “CM 2 revised) In previous IPR comments Andy Jacobs (whom you talked to in Columbus, video interview to be published later -p) points out you have embraced some positions of Hans H. Hoppe.

    Corollary 1: To what extent do you agree or disagree with Hoppe’s immigration views?

    Corollary 2: What is your position on immigration?”

    Like I said in another thread here, Adam said that he agrees with Hoppe on convenant communities in a private property anarcho-capitalist society, and he also agrees with Hoppe about decentralization (decentralization is a big part of his campaign), but he does not agree with Hoppe about how immigration should be handled right now, as in Adam still supports “open borders” even though our present situation includes a welfare state, democracy, forced association laws, and public property.

    I disagree with Adam about how immigration should be handled in our present situation (my position on that is more inline with Hoppe’s, as in that while government exists, it should have an immigration policy that does not overwhelm, or threaten, the existing population, which means shutting some people out, as much as possible, and making the citizenship process more difficult, and of course not enticing people to come here with government welfare would be nice as well), but it should be pointed out that Adam’s platform is only to eliminate the federal government, so the state and local governments would still exist, so Adam’s platform sends all issues, including immigration, back to the states or local governments. So if he were to be successful in creating enough momentum to actually shut down the federal government, which he would not expect to happen until 2028, or 2032 (he thinks that it will take running (either him running, or somebody else running under the same platform) more than one time for for this platform to have a chance to gain enough momentum to have any chance at putting it into practice), there’d still be state and local governments, although he’d like to see other people run to shut them down, and his goal is to move society in the direction of an anarcho-capitalist/voluntaryist society.

    Adam said that some state or local governments may do things that he does not like, but that at least it would be limited to that state or locality and not imposed on the 325 plus million people who occupy the present day USA, but once again, his hopes to inspire more people to embrace anarcho-capitalism/voluntaryism.

    “Corollary 3: Are there any positions of Hoppe or the so-called alt right which you find to be repulsive and worthy of condemnation and dissociation?

    Corollary 4: Do you believe that associating libertarianism with the alt right is a big problem for the party and/or movement?”

    Adam does not support the alt right, but he wants all people, including those with whom he disagrees, be they socialists/communists, alt right, or whoever else, to embrace his platform of decentralization, He’d of course like everyone to embrace voluntaryism (aka-anarcho-capitalism) as well, but if some people won’t accept voluntaryism, he thinks that he can at least sell a lot of these people on the concept of decentralization.

    Adam is half Jewish (his mother is Jewish, but his father is not). He said that he was raised partially Jewish, and partially Presbyterian, but he dropped out of organized religion a long time ago. He does not support taxpayer funding for Israel, nor does he support military interventionism for Israel, or for any other country.

  5. Andy

    “AA1) Suppose the federal government actually is dissolved. Do you anticipate problems such as those which occur with international immigration and trade now happening between states? For example: would a person from Louisiana visiting a relative in Connecticut have to apply for a travel visa? Will there be roundups of “illegal” native born Californians who cross into Nevada and Arizona without permission? Will New Jerseyans caught in NYC without a work permit be held in the Tombs, Rikers, or a new prison camp on Staten Island? Will citizens of Indiana and Wisconsin commuting to jobs in Chicago have to cross international border checkpoints and how much will that delay their commute? And so on.

    Will we see former US states slapping each other with trade tariffs and quotas? Will we see gun confiscation up north and theocracy down south?”

    Like I said above, he said that some state or local governments may do some things with which he disagrees, but he sees that as less bad than having a big federal governments that does things with which he disagrees.

    He also said that if his platform were to take off, he thinks that it would cause a paradigm shift in the thinking of a lot of people, which would decrease the possibility of state or local governments doing things with which he disagrees, and like I said, he hopes to inspire people to start dismantling government at the state and local level as well.

    “XX1) Does the President have the power to dissolve the federal government? If yes, what would be the legal/constitutional mechanism for doing so? If not, is this a problem for your campaign?”

    This was covered in my interview above. He sees this as a Declaration of Independence type of thing, as in that the people have the right to alter or abolish the government, and that electing him on this platform would be like a public referendum on whether or not the federal government should continue to exist. He plans to have a detailed government shut down plan in place, well in advance of election, so it would be known what he is going to do if elected.

    “Xx2) During the fallout from the controversy over your breakup with Marcy and one or more other then campaign staffers quitting at the same time, you wrote that you had some problems with a personally authoritarian leadership style that you learned in the military and that you were working on this problem. Do you believe you have made significant progress on that? Are you getting along well with your current staff and significant other if any? Do you anticipate more issues with staff shakeups going forward?”

    We did not discuss this, but it should be pointed out to those who are not aware that Macy did post a video online apologizing for trashing Adam in a video she posted not long after their breakup.

    “XX3) Have you made any attempt at creating broadcast-length (30 second and 1 minute) youtube ads that your supporters could pay to put on the air if they chose to? If not, do you have any plans for doing so?”

    It is still early in the process, but he’s already got a bunch of videos online. We did not discuss this specifically, but I’m guessing that this is something he would probably do based on conversations and past actions.

    “Xx4) How closely do you plan on cooperating (or not) in sharing your campaign data and lists with the LNC and/or state and local LPs?”

    It sounded to me like he wants the Libertarian Party to grow, but we did not discuss this specifically, although he is actively trying to get more people to sign up as dues paying members of the Libertarian Party.

    “Xx5) As additional candidates join the race, how closely do you intend to work with them in setting up joint forums/debates? Will you debate only certain candidates or any who will debate you? If the former, what criteria will you use to choose which ones you will or won’t share the stage with?

    How about general election debates – who will or won’t you debate from the other parties and independents? Do you have a strategy to get invited to the main debates with the Republican and Democratic nominees? If not, do you have a strategy to gain maximum publicity from those debates?”

    It sounded to me like he is pretty much open to debating anyone.

    Given that he has been arrested for activism before, it would not surprise me if he’d be willing to show up at the big presidential debates with the D’s and R’s and get arrested if they don’t let him debate (he’d almost certainly show up with supporters and video cameras and have it posted online as well), but we did not cover this specifically.

    “Xx6) Do you plan on seeking or accepting the nomination of any party besides the LP? Will you support whoever wins the LP nomination, only yourself if you win, or do you have specific criteria on who you will or won’t support if it is not you – if so, what are they? If you are unhappy with the LP nominee, will you seek or accept any ballot lines that you can still get for yourself at that point?”

    He sounded like he was not interested in any other nomination outside of that of the Libertarian Party.

    “Xx7) Have you made much in the way of an attempt of getting on to not specifically libertarian shows on broadcast radio and/or TV? Is this something you plan on doing as part of your campaign stops going forward? How about submitting editorials to daily and weekly and college publications around the country?”

    Judging from conversation, it sounded to me like he’d like for his campaign to get covered in as many places as possible.

    “Xx8) Given that LP nominates P and VP candidates separately, but P candidates sometimes endorse VP candidates for the nomination, do you plan on working as a “team” with a candidate for the VP nomination? Just let the delegates choose whoever they wish with no meddling from you if you are the P candidate? Would there be some plausible VP candidates you would have a problem being on the same ticket with? If you do not get the P nomination, will you run for the VP nomination as sometimes happens with candidates who do not get the P nomination?

    These questions suppose that the bylaw will not change which allows these offices to be voted on separately. What do you think of amending the bylaws to make the ticket one which is voted on jointly? Are you in favor or opposed to this change and is it important to you either way?”

    It sounded like he would like to pick a preferred running mate (he does not have one at this time though), but he did not say anything about whether or not he thinks that the bylaws should be changed for the VP nominating process, and he seemed to indicate that he’d be willing to run with whoever the delegates select, but he hopes that person is an actual libertarian with whom he can work.

    “xx9) Tell us a few things that are not generally known about you, especially anything that may come us a surprise to people.”

    ????

  6. Andy

    “KL 2) What are your thoughts on the Constitution Party?”

    I brought up that I was disgusted with the Gary Johnson/Bill Weld ticket, and that I voted for the Constitution Party’s ticket of Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley, in the 2020 election, and that I thought that Castle/Bradley were more libertarian than Johnson/Weld (who I do not consider to have been libertarian). I told him that I wrote in Ron Paul for President in 2008, but that I thought that Chuck Baldwin, the Constitution Party’s candidate for President, was more libertarian than Bob Barr, though I also said that the CP’s candidate in 2012, Virgil Goode, sucked, and was not really anyone I’d call a constitutionalist. Neither Adam or his campaign manager objected to my saying that Chuck Baldwin was more libertarian than Bob Barr, or that Darrell Castle was more libertarian than Gary Johnson,, however, even though Adam and his campaign manager both do not regard Johnson/Weld as having been real libertarians, and they both indicated that the Johnson/Weld campaign was a disappointment, they advocated that people vote for them anyway if they were going to vote, just so it could be recorded as a vote for the Libertarian Party, which they thought would advance the cause of the party, even though Johnson/Weld were far from ideal candidates.

    I told them that I disagreed that voting for Johnson/Weld was advancing the cause of liberty, because it sent the message that the LP should continue to nominate candidates who are not really that libertarian, if they are libertarian at all, like Bob Barr, Gary Johnson, etc… They could see where I was coming from, but I got the impression that they were trying to “play nice” with everyone, including the Johnson/Weld supporters, and that their focus was to build enough momentum in the party so it will nominate people in the future who are more libertarian.

    It should be pointed out that Adam lived in New Mexico a large chunk of his life, and he’s met Gary Johnson at some events over the years. He has has had a friendly rapport with Gary Johnson, even though he is disappointed in his campaign, and was also disappointed that Gary Johnson never endorsed him when he ran for US House in the Republican primaries in New Mexico back in 2010.

    Adam appeared to have some sympathy for people who want to limit government to the Constitution, but he is an anarcho-capitalist/voluntaryist, and if you watch the interview above, he sees the Constitution as a failed attempt at limiting government power.

  7. Andy

    “xx10) Other than dissolving the federal government, will you campaign on any specific issues? Suppose you somehow get elected President but do not have the power to dissolve the federal government, do you have a ‘backup plan’?”

    If you check out my interview above, he said that he agrees with me about promoting things during a campaign that people can implement in their day to day lives that move society towards more freedom, like jury nullification, use of alternative currencies (especially digital/cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, Ehtereum, Dash, etc…), home schooling, and gun ownership. He is especially enthusiastic about cryptocurrencies.

    “TLI 1 revised) Do you believe lack of experience in lower office will be a problem in running for (not) president? Or do you see it as a more of a plus? Why or why not?”

    He did not seem to think that this makes a difference.

    “TLI 2 revised) What do you think of so-called “conspiracy theories”? Do you believe in some yourself? Are you open-minded about them? Do you plan on making them campaign themes or will you try to avoid talking about them? Do you see association with conspiracy theories and theorists to be detrimental to the public image of the party and your campaign, or do you see them as a fertile recruiting ground for new supporters?”

    Adam has already come out and said that he does not believe the official government story about 9/11 (there are videos of him talking about this online), and he recognizes that governments engage in conspiracies and false flags. Now as far as this relates to his campaign for President, he does not intend to delve into this too deeply, but he said that part of his campaign platform is to release the documents being held by the CIA, the FBI, the DHS, the NSA, etc…, so the public can see what their government has been up to behind the scenes.

    “TL3) How much money do you realistically hope to raise and if you qualify, would you accept matching funds? Would any money you raise be used for television advertising?”

    He wants to raise as much money as possible, but it did not sound to me like he wants to accept matching funds from the government.

    He said that he wants to spend as much money as he can on advertising the campaign, including on TV advertising,

    He also wants to have actual libertarians as his campaign staff.

  8. paulie Post author

    I appreciate Andy being the “Adam whisperer” but I would still like to hear from Adam directly on these other questions, if possible.

  9. paulie Post author

    A couple of examples of why:

    “Xx2) During the fallout from the controversy over your breakup with Marcy and one or more other then campaign staffers quitting at the same time, you wrote that you had some problems with a personally authoritarian leadership style that you learned in the military and that you were working on this problem. Do you believe you have made significant progress on that? Are you getting along well with your current staff and significant other if any? Do you anticipate more issues with staff shakeups going forward?”

    We did not discuss this, but it should be pointed out to those who are not aware that Macy did post a video online apologizing for trashing Adam in a video she posted not long after their breakup.

    Yes she did, but she was not the only person who quit right then and Adam did issue that mea culpa of his own as well. It’s certainly possible, and common, for more than one person to have some fault in a relationship that goes bad. Adam acknowledged his part of it at the time and said he had work to do. The question was about how that work is coming in a more general sense, not about Marcy and whatever her faults are since she isn’t running for anything as far as we know.

    “XX3) Have you made any attempt at creating broadcast-length (30 second and 1 minute) youtube ads that your supporters could pay to put on the air if they chose to? If not, do you have any plans for doing so?”

    It is still early in the process, but he’s already got a bunch of videos online. We did not discuss this specifically, but I’m guessing that this is something he would probably do based on conversations and past actions.

    “broadcast-length (30 second and 1 minute)” was a key part of that question.

  10. Tony From Long Island

    Andy

    You are a closed minded individual, who is so committed to the cause of liberty, that you vote for Democrats, so I’m not surprised.

    Yeah, my votes for Andre Marrou, Harry Browne, Ross Perot and Gary Johnson clearly back that one up . . . .

    Thankfully, the kool-ade has worn off since 2000.

    The fact that you feel that your definition of the word “liberty” is the only correct one shows a serious lack of perspective.

    Anarchy is not liberty. It’s survival of the fittest. I seem to remember the same concept playing a big part in a book by the late Anton LeVey.

  11. Tony From Long Island

    I thought Andy’s name was “Andy” and not “Adam.” Has he given Andy permission to speak for him? Even allowing himself to be interviewed by a known conspiracy theorist puts him in a bad light. He has failed politics 101 – don’t associate with shady people.

  12. Andy

    “I voted for the Constitution Party’s ticket of Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley, in the 2020 election, ”

    This should read, “I voted for the Constitution Party’s ticket of Darrell Castle and Scott Bradley, in the 2016 election..”

  13. Tony From Long Island

    Why do you continue to do your “should read” for things that are completely obvious?

  14. paulie Post author

    Seeing that Andy is Adam Kokesh’s spokesman pretty much disqualifies Kokesh from serious consideration.

    I’m pretty sure his role as campaign press secretary is purely self-appointed, unpaid and unofficial.

  15. Andy

    “Chuck Moulton
    November 2, 2017 at 14:05
    Seeing that Andy is Adam Kokesh’s spokesman pretty much disqualifies Kokesh from serious consideration.”

    Chuck Moulton further exposes himself as being an irrational pompous jackass. I’m really looking forward to seeing you in person again, Chuckie boy.

    If Chuck would bother to read the post before commenting, he’d see that I said I am not an official spokesman for Adam Kokesh’s campaign, nor am I working for his campaign, nor have I endorsed Adam Kokesh for the nomination (I’m glad that he’s running for the nomination, but since we don’t know who else is running, or what is going to happen between now and 2020, it is too early for me to endorse anyone, so I may, or may not, endorse Adam Kokesh for President)., and, as noted above, Adam and I do not agree on every detail of everything.

    I was just news reporting. I would like to start interviewing more people. Going by Chuck’s “logic” (or lack thereof), if I were to interview everyone who runs for the Libertarian Party’s nomination for President and Vice President in 2020, this would mean that all of the candidates should be eliminated from consideration because they talked to me. Taking this a step further, I suppose that I could ultimately disqualify everyone in the Libertarian Party from consideration if I were able to go around the country and interview every Libertarian Party member (I suppose with the exception of Chuck Moulton, although Chuck has talked to me in the past, so this would mean that Chuck should disqualify himself for consideration) and then report what they said or post a video of the interview online.

    I met Ron Paul in 2008, and I met Michael Badnarik back in 2004, and I met Harry Browne back in 1999 and in 2000, so since I met and talked to them, and, unlike with Adam Koekesh (whose campaign I have not yet endorsed, and, depending on who else gets in the race, and what else happens between now and 2020, I may not end up endorsing), I did officially endorse Ron Paul, Michael Badnarik, and Harry Browne, for President, So going by Chuck’s “logic” (or lack thereof), Ron Paul, Michael Badnarik, and Harry Browne, should have all been disqualified from consideration.

  16. Andy

    “‘Tony From Long Island
    November 2, 2017 at 07:50
    Andy

    You are a closed minded individual, who is so committed to the cause of liberty, that you vote for Democrats, so I’m not surprised.’

    “Yeah, my votes for Andre Marrou, Harry Browne, Ross Perot and Gary Johnson clearly back that one up . . . .”

    You have stated here several times that you now identify as a Democrat, and that you vote for Democratic Party candidates.

    “Thankfully, the kool-ade has worn off since 2000.”

    So you sort of believed in freedom at one time, but you no longer believe in freedom. Perhaps all that time you spent in prison made you like being institutionalized.

    “The fact that you feel that your definition of the word ‘liberty’ is the only correct one shows a serious lack of perspective.”

    This is from Dictionary.com:

    “noun, plural liberties.
    1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.

    2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.

    3.freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.”

    “Anarchy is not liberty. It’s survival of the fittest. I seem to remember the same concept playing a big part in a book by the late Anton LeVey.”

    First of all, while I agree with the anarcho-capitalist/voluntaryist philosophy, I recognize that we are far from having this, so I consider minarchy, that is a small, limited government, to be the next best thing.

    Second of all, anarchy means without rulers. This does not mean that one should be able to initiate force or fraud, nor does it require one to engage in a libertine or hedonistic lifestyle (one could do this, so long as they do not initiate force or fraud, but they’d also be responsible for any negative consequences that such lifestyle may bring them).

  17. Andy

    Here is comment I made above when I clearly stated that I am not working for Kokesh’s campaign in any capacity, and that I have not even endorsed Kokesh for the 2020 nomination. I was strictly news reporting (I even pointed out where I disagreed with Kokesh).

    “Andy
    November 2, 2017 at 02:36
    ‘paulie Post author
    November 1, 2017 at 15:36
    Here’s the print questions we sent the campaign about 2 weeks ago. I just re-sent with a link to this thread and an invite to answer as many or as few as they have time for when they get a chance.’

    Some of the questions asked here were already covered by Adam in other published interviews or statements, or were covered by me during conversations that were off camera (Adam did a two day event in Columbus, and I went to both days (as did a few others)).

    I also met Adam at the national convention in Orlando in 2016, as well as when he was on tour later in 2016 at his stop in Philadelphia, so although I am not working for his campaign in any capacity, nor have I officially endorsed him for the 2020 nomination (I have endorsed him for running for the nomination, but I’d have to see who else enters the race, and what else happens between now, and when it gets closer to the time of the nomination, before I could officially endorse anyone, so I may, or may not, end up endorsing Adam for the nomination), but, after talking to him for awhile in Orlando, Philadelphia, and Columbus, and having seen a bunch of his videos online for years, I think that I can answer most of these questions with a pretty good degree of accuracy.”

    =====================================================================================

    What part of this did Chuck Moulton not understand?

  18. paulie Post author

    Chuck may have overreacted a bit to you grabbing the mic and answering for Kokesh, but you are overreacting in turn.

  19. dL

    Chuck may have overreacted a bit to you grabbing the mic and answering for Kokesh, but you are overreacting in turn.

    no, Chuck was not overreacting…

  20. paulie Post author

    no, Chuck was not overreacting…

    I think it’s going too far to blame Adam for being interviewed by Andy. Unless you hang out on IPR why would you even know that Andy is a “known” x, y or z? To the extent that Adam knows who Andy is, unless Adam lurks here a lot, it would be something like: LP activist, Ron Paul fan, travels a lot, past and likely future convention delegate, puts the LP on the ballot in various states, animated and excited talker. We certainly can’t blame Adam for Andy answering questions for him, since chances are he did not even know about it much less OK it. Thus, I don’t see how any of this would reflect badly on Adam, even on Chuck’s own terms.

  21. Tony From Long Island

    Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority:

    I’d rather not . . . . Anton LeVey would love it.

    Freedom: •the state of not being imprisoned or enslaved: . . .
    •the state of being physically unrestricted and able to move easily:
    •absence of subjection to foreign domination or despotic government:

    Of course, when you think that taxation is “theft,” and that any (even slight) interference in your life by government is “slavery,” or that even minor regulations (like passports) is “hinderance” to your ability to move about easily, then maybe you don’t consider yourself to have freedom. It’s a pretty myopic perspective.

  22. Tony From Long island

    I am predicting a certain person (other than Andy) to highly criticize my description of passports as a “minor” regulation 🙂

  23. paulie Post author

    Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority

    That would be chaos, not anarchy. Without rulers does not mean without order.

    Of course, when you think that taxation is “theft,” and that any (even slight) interference in your life by government is “slavery,” or that even minor regulations (like passports) is “hinderance” to your ability to move about easily, then maybe you

    Are correct. And it’s not so minor for many of us.

    It’s a pretty myopic perspective.

    Not really. It’s the opposite perspective which is myopic.

  24. paulie Post author

    I am predicting a certain person (other than Andy) to highly criticize my description of passports as a “minor” regulation

    Not sure if you meant me, but I can’t get one anymore, so that’s not all that minor in my case.

  25. Tony From Long Island

    Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority

    That would be chaos, not anarchy. Without rulers does not mean without order.

    That’s one of the actual definitions of the word, not my own. Just google or Bing it.

    Not sure if you meant me, but I can’t get one anymore, so that’s not all that minor in my case.
    No, I wasn’t referring to you.

  26. Chuck Moulton

    I was not addressing Andy interviewing Kokesh (the original post video) at all. Interviews are great and it is easy to separate an interviewer from an interviewee.

    The weird part was Paulie posted a bunch of questions in the comment thread for Adam Kokesh, then Andy stepped in and answered for him.

  27. Luke

    Yeah, that part was more than a little weird. But the video interview was not bad. I feel like I learned something. Did anyone else watch it?

  28. Andy

    If a news reporter talks to a candidate on three occassions, and lots of topics are covered, only some of which ended up on a video interview, the news reporter could also write about the candidate.

    I did not run a timer on each of the three instances when I met Adam, but I talked to him at the convention in Orlando, and then myself and two other delegates had lunch with him. I attended Adam’s even in Philadelphia, and I talked to him before and after the event, plus I was in the vicinity when he was talking to other people at the Philadelphia event. Then he did a two day event in Columbus, and I was among those who went to both days, and I was also among those who went to the diners.

    So i obviously had more conversation with Adam than what was covered in the 40 minute interview above, so, in my capacity as a news reporter, I responded to the questions above on the subjects that were covered on each occasiowhen I met the candidate, with a disclaimer at the top of the post stating that I am not working for the candidate’s campaign in any capacity, nor have I endorsed the candidate for the nomination (I may, or may not, end up endorsing him, depending upon what happens between now and 2020, which is when the nomination takes place).

    I believe that my reporting accurately represents the views of the candidate, and if I turn out to have gotten something wrong, I will be happy to post a retraction.

    When I met Ron Paul, I did not get the chance to talk to him for very long, so I did not get to ask him any questions, but I did get to ask questions of Harry Browne and Michael Badnarik, as well as Gary Nolan (who ran for the LP’s presidential nomination in 2004 and lost). I spoke to Darryl W. Perry prior to the presidential nomination vote in Orlando, but I did not ask him any questions, although I did ask him questions online, right here at IPR, and he answered them. I also spoke to the late Marc Allan Feldman prior to the presidential nomination vote, but I did not ask him any questions.

    I have also spoken to other candidates over the years, who were running for a variety of offices.

    I did not have a video camera or a voice recorder with me when I spoke to Harry Browne or Michael Badnarik or Gary Nolan, who are three candidates I was able to question in person. so if IPR had been around back then, the only way I could have reported on it is via written word.

  29. paulie Post author

    I was not addressing Andy interviewing Kokesh (the original post video) at all. Interviews are great and it is easy to separate an interviewer from an interviewee.

    The weird part was Paulie posted a bunch of questions in the comment thread for Adam Kokesh, then Andy stepped in and answered for him.

    You are correct, I conflated your comment with Tony’s.

  30. Andy

    “paulie Post author
    November 3, 2017 at 19:16
    ‘I was not addressing Andy interviewing Kokesh (the original post video) at all. Interviews are great and it is easy to separate an interviewer from an interviewee.

    The weird part was Paulie posted a bunch of questions in the comment thread for Adam Kokesh, then Andy stepped in and answered for him.’

    You are correct, I conflated your comment with Tony’s.”

    There was nothing weird about it if you read my disclaimer at the beginning.

    Some of the topics of the questions were discussed during the three occasions when I met Adam, so I provided the answers that he provided when these subjects came up, to the best of my recollection (which is generally pretty good).

    None of my answers were official statements from Kokesh, or from anyone who may be working on his campaign, they were my reporting on subjects discussed during the three instances when I met him, but of course anyone who bothered to read the disclaimer I posted would know this.

  31. paulie Post author

    Yeah, that part was more than a little weird. But the video interview was not bad. I feel like I learned something. Did anyone else watch it?

    Yes, it was informative.

  32. dL

    Anarchy: a state of disorder due to absence or nonrecognition of authority:

    I’d rather not . . . . Anton LeVey would love it.

    Anarchism is governance without rulers or hierarchy. The (b) or (c) dictionary definition of anarchy is a condition of political disorder, typically qualified by an absence of central authority…a denotation that is a bit different than a sweeping generalization of disorder. The dogma that liberty follows from order is a right-wing conservative one. And an efficiently well-ordered political society is the (b) or (c) definition of totalitarianism.

    And, btw, the Church of Satan is not an anarchist organization…

    Of course, when you think that taxation is “theft,” and that any (even slight) interference in your life by government is “slavery,” or that even minor regulations (like passports) is “hinderance” to your ability to move about easily, then maybe you don’t consider yourself to have freedom. It’s a pretty myopic perspective.

    Taxation is social control.

    No, a slight interference by something like the state would not be “slavery” per se. However, mere “slight interference” is not what the state does. Hence, you taunt is a vacuous red herring.

    RE: passports. Given your self-admitted past imprisonment on a felony conviction, I imagine the prospect of your free travel abroad is probably a bit limited. Hence, in your case, at least, the passport is not a mere minor inconvenience. That you nonetheless feel quite adjusted to having to ask the state permission RE: the your freedom of movement indicates to me that you still view yourself as a criminal. Well, I don’t view myself that way.

  33. T Rex

    At the moment, the Kokesh campaign sounds excellent. It’s a platform that could pull together left-wing secessionists (Kirkpatrick Sale/Thomas Naylor types), Hoppeans, “left-libertarians” in the mutualist mold, and plain old radical libertarians.

    It’s not hard to imagine some publications like CounterPunch getting excited about this. It’s bold, in-your-face, almost “rude” in a way that will make Trump look like an establishment dullard every time he attacks it. The very fact of Trump and [insert Democratic schill] having to argue against this stuff would be inherently entertaining every single time. LOL

    The negative media coverage will be much higher than other LP campaigns, due to the controversial nature of the ideas. In many ways it will be a blessing if Kokesh’s team can milk it to their advantage.

  34. paulie Post author

    Trump look like an establishment dullard every time he attacks it

    LOLyouwish

    The very fact of Trump and [insert Democratic schill] having to argue against this stuff

    That’s a fact?

  35. Andy

    Chuck Moulton said: “The weird part was Paulie posted a bunch of questions in the comment thread for Adam Kokesh, then Andy stepped in and answered for him.”

    There was nothing weird about it if you read the statement at the beginning of the post. I met Adam in Orlando, Philadelphia, and Columbus. We talked a lot longer than the 40 minute interview above, plus I was in ear shot when he was talking to other people at these events. Several of the questions above were either asked by me off camera at one of the events, or, was asked by somebody else when I was in the vicinity of the conversation. So in my role as a news reporter here, I was merely reporting what he had already said on these subjects. If a subject was not covered, note that I mentioned that above.

    My reporting in writing how candidate Adam answered some questions is no different than any news reporter writing an article about how a candidate answered questions.

  36. paulie Post author

    I’m not sure where you’re going with this….

    There’s absolutely no reason that Trump or the Democratic Party nominee would have to notice, much less attack, Kokesh if he is the LP nominee. They don’t have to address his arguments, attack him, name him or even acknowledge that he exists. And chances are they won’t.

  37. Andy

    William Saturn said: “Free Speech should be in the Top 4.”

    Free speech could be in the top 5 I suppose, as without free speech, you can’t communicate ideas.

    Take away taxes and government control over money (which includes government granting monopoly control over money to private central banks, and then using the guns of the state to back them up), and you essentially will have eliminated government.

    Government can’t do anything without funding. So the funding of government trumps (no reference to The Donald intended here) everything else.

    There’d be no War on Drugs, no military imperialism, no government controlled education, no government welfare system, and no government anything if you took away their funding sources.

  38. T Rex

    “There’s absolutely no reason that Trump or the Democratic Party nominee would have to notice, much less attack, Kokesh if he is the LP nominee. They don’t have to address his arguments, attack him, name him or even acknowledge that he exists. And chances are they won’t.”

    Not to a large degree, but I’m sure reporters would ask about it. Clinton and Trump commented on Jill Stein and Gary Johnson in the last race. There just wasn’t that much to say, since both candidates were so boring.

  39. Andy

    The D’s and R’s will likely try to ignore Kokesh, or whoever else the LP may run. If they say anything about them at all, it will be negative.

    If Kokesh or whoever else gets the LP presidential nomination in 2020 wants to be mentioned by the D’s and R’s, they will have to make it so they can’t ignore them.

    Considering that Kokesh has already been arrested several times for protesting, I would bet that if he were the nominee, that he would show up at the presidential debates, with video cameras and supporters, and get arrested for trying to enter the debates. Michael Badnarik and Green Party candidate David Cobb did this at a presidential debate in 2004, but they failed to turn it into a big story. Kokesh had already shown that he can generate publicity, so I bet if he did this it would become a big story. This would be a plus, in my opinion.

    I think that it was a blessing in disguise that Gary Johnson and Bill Weld were shut out of the debates. They would have made the Libertarian Party look bad, and this would have been a huge set back for the party and movement.

  40. paulie Post author

    Michael Badnarik and Green Party candidate David Cobb did this at a presidential debate in 2004, but they failed to turn it into a big story. Kokesh had already shown that he can generate publicity, so I bet if he did this it would become a big story.

    Dunno. Maybe we’ll see.

  41. T Rex

    “I think that it was a blessing in disguise that Gary Johnson and Bill Weld were shut out of the debates. They would have made the Libertarian Party look bad, and this would have been a huge set back for the party and movement.”

    ^This.

    Johnson did awful even in ‘soft-ball’ settings (CNN Town Halls, Fox Business interviews, etc). He would have been in a debate with one person who was far more informed (Clinton) and one person who was far more aggressive (Trump). Johnson, sadly, was neither.

  42. Luke

    I am guessing no one the LP puts up will be in the debates, and no one will get major news coverage for being shut out of the debates. But I could be wrong.

  43. Andy

    I agree that the LP candidate in 2020 will be shut out of the debates with the D and R candidate.

    I do not expect the mainstream media to give a lot of coverage to the LP presidential candidate getting shut out of the debates. The coverage, if the candidate makes it happen, could come from online videos, the alternative media, and perhaps the foreign media.

  44. Tony From Long Island

    Andy:

    I agree that the LP candidate in 2020 will be shut out of the debates with the D and R candidate.

    If the candidate is Kokesh or anyone like him, this would be a good thing,. Inclusion of that sort of candidate would return the LP to “kook” status, that it has finally been pulling away from in recent years.

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