Julia Reiss: ‘John McAfee Bought Hookers, Weed, and Porn With Cryptocurrency, So “Hate Well,” Suckers’

Julia Reiss at complex.com (published Jan. 10):

Cyber security guru and certifiably eccentric computer ingenue John McAfee is back to his offbeat ways. Remember, it was only five years ago that police chased the 72-year-old through the jungles of Central America to question him about the death of his neighbor. McAfee claimed that authorities in Belize were out to kill him, to which the prime minister clapped back by calling him “extremely paranoid, even bonkers.” The successful entrepreneur’s home would burn down somewhat mysteriously shortly thereafter.

Anyway, perhaps it comes as no surprise that on Monday, McAfee displayed precisely zero chill when he baited his haters by tweeting about using cryptocurrency to pay for sex and drugs. “So much hubbub about my admission to paying hookers with Crypto. If you want more reason to hate I will also admit to buying weed and other illegal drugs, porn, and nearly every other questionable priduct [sic] or service that you can imagine—all with Crypto when possible. Hate well,” he wrote. Hate well! McAfee’s tweet came just hours after he announced his advisory role at another cryptocurrency, ICO.

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47 thoughts on “Julia Reiss: ‘John McAfee Bought Hookers, Weed, and Porn With Cryptocurrency, So “Hate Well,” Suckers’

  1. dL

    Hookers, weed, and porn are all legal in some places.

    Yeah, the authoritarians have moved on to new crypto boogeymen: trafficked humans, child porn and fentanyl

  2. Massimo

    Good for him.

    Now, I never really gave much attention to the story in Belize. Is it possible that he was framed, or he is likely guilty? I do not give a shit about what he buys, but I think the movement should be careful to associate with a murderer.

  3. Thomas L. Knapp

    Massimo,

    If he was framed, the frame was unsuccessful. He’s never been charged. There was enough weird shit going on around that scene — including an extortion attempt complete with raid/detention by a regime figure shortly before the killing — that getting him to fork over cash to avoid a murder charge seems very plausible.

    But who knows? Probably not us, and probably not ever. I’ve only met him a couple of times and he didn’t strike me as a killer, but then I’ve been around people who later did kill and never expected it.

  4. DJ

    M:

    Good for him.

    Now, I never really gave much attention to the story in Belize. Is it possible that he was framed, or he is likely guilty? I do not give a shit about what he buys, but I think the movement should be careful to associate with a murderer.

    Me: What movement is that?

  5. paulie Post author

    trafficked humans, child porn and fentanyl

    Now why would anyone get worked up over that? It just sounds like an average weekend at the Kremlin, or an average weeknight at the Vatican.

  6. dL

    Now why would anyone get worked up over that? It just sounds like an average weekend at the Kremlin

    Factually, that’s more like an average weekend at Mueller’s FBI

  7. paulie Post author

    Factually, that’s more like an average weekend at Mueller’s FBI

    Dunno. I think FBI is pretty boring, even on the weekends. I’m thinking binge HBO, a few minutes of video chat vanilla sex with the wife and Dominos delivery at the Holiday Inn.

    If one of the two actually does have fentanyl, child porn and human trafficking going on my bet is heavily on the Kremlin. There’s a reason “Russian” is a synonym for extreme.

  8. dL

    Dunno. I think FBI is pretty boring, even on the weekends.

    The FBI is the only government organ I’m aware of on the record for distributing child pornography.

    There’s a reason “Russian” is a synonym for extreme.

    Obviously, Putin got his start by demagoguing the anarchists, coordinating the Palmer raids, rounding up world war I draft dodgers, bugging Supreme court justices(and a vast array of politicos), running secret detention camps, running a vast cointelpro desk for a century…and lest we apparently forget, used treaty banned military tactics to mass murder ~ 100 women, children and men in home church simply because they thumbed their nose at Putin.

    If you want to play conspiracy theory, my recommendation is start with the country with the 100 billion per annum intel budget. The FBI’s budget alone is 5 times greater than the entire Russian intel budget. That’s a lot of Dominos pizza, and I’ve never seen an overweight FBI spook.

  9. paulie Post author

    Obviously, Putin got his start by…

    Granted the FBI had a huge head start but Putin made up for it with much faster acceleration. O to $200 billion in personal wealth and budding free society to authoritarian kleptocracy in 18 years is quite an achievement, one his understudy Trump hopes to improve on. You really should watch a documentary about exactly how Putin did get his start and got where he is now, and not one financed by him or his friends.

    Putin got his start by demagoguing the anarchists,

    No, the Muslims. Look up the apartment block bombings that gave him a quick leg up to the top.

    coordinating the Palmer raids, rounding up world war I draft dodgers,

    LOL seriously? Do you have any idea how many people have been rounded up under Putin? The FBI are pikers by comparison, even if you compress the timeframe.

    bugging Supreme court justices(and a vast array of politicos),

    LOL again. In your imaginary world Putin doesn’t do that? Perhaps he also had nothing to do with killing journalists and politicians and business people who stood against him and his friends. It was all coincidence.

    used treaty banned military tactics to mass murder ~ 100 women, children and men in home church simply because they thumbed their nose at Putin.

    100 people wasn’t even a headline during the Chechnyan war that Putin restarted as a result of the apartment block bombings that paved his rise to power – Russia’s “9/11” – which themselves killed several times that number. All evidence points to Putin staging the bombings and that’s not much of a conspiracy theory given that his gang basically got caught red handed.

    The FBI’s budget alone is 5 times greater than the entire Russian intel budget.

    Yes, of course, all of the Russian intel budget is on the books.

    That’s a lot of Dominos pizza, and I’ve never seen an overweight FBI spook.

    True, they do work off the Domino’s at the gym. So what?

  10. dL

    Granted the FBI had a huge head start but Putin made up for it with much faster acceleration. O to $200 billion in personal wealth

    200 billion…eh, richer than Bezos, Gates, Buffet combined.. uh, uh. And don’t bother with a link fest because none of this RussiaGate nonsense has a shred of credibility. Putin is an authoritarian douchebag, but he is Russia’s douchebag, not mine. I will never,ever pimp the mother fucking FBI

  11. paulie Post author

    200 billion…eh, richer than Bezos, Gates, Buffet combined.. uh, uh.

    You’d be surprised what can be done when business and state are combined and the wealth is concentrated at the top through massive skimming and extortion. The average Russian has less wealth than the average subcontinental Indian. 200 billion may be outdated. The estimate is a few years old. Possibly well on the way to world’s first trillionaire if not there already.

    And don’t bother with a link fest

    I won’t. If you haven’t paid attention at the obvious til now you aren’t going to start and I have other things to do.

    none of this RussiaGate nonsense has a shred of credibility.

    ROFL. Yeah, OK.

    Click your heels three times and we’ll be back in the land of make believe where KGB/FSB Putin doesn’t kill people, round them up, or bug every phone he can. LOL.

    he is Russia’s douchebag, not mine.

    Yours too. Trump is his hand puppet.

    I will never,ever pimp the mother fucking FBI

    No love for those keystone kops, they have more than enough blood on their hands. Fentanyl, human trafficking? They couldn’t find their ass with both hands. I give them high odds of being 100% solidly Trumpsterized and being turned on the Reichsfuehrer’s opponents within months. Then you get to really learn what it’s like to have a guy like Russia’s douchebag be your douchebag. It took them a few years to consolidate power in Russia too.

    Just because Drumpf did not deserve a win doesn’t mean Clinton did not deserve to lose. She most certainly did.

  12. dL

    You’d be surprised what can be done when business and state are combined and the wealth is concentrated at the top through massive skimming and extortion.

    Oh, I’m not surprised when it comes to business and state. However, I am skeptical that one could become a trillionaire by skimming from an economy that barely produces a trillion per annum GDP.

    ROFL. Yeah, OK.

    That sentiment pretty much sums up my reaction to what the US spooks are pushing, which is pretty much what you are pimping here since Clinton lost.

    Click your heels three times and we’ll be back in the land of make believe where KGB/FSB Putin doesn’t kill people, round them up, or bug every phone he can. LOL.

    That’s not what I said. In fact, I’m quite sure the Russian government does that, if not for the fact that every government does that. What I am mocking is the idea that Putin is the puppet master behind Trump’s election. Or that the KGB has de facto control of the American government.

    Do the spooks try to influence foreign elections? Absolutely. That’s what spooks do. But just because the United States had a close election is not a reason to throw up one’s hands in disbelief, “I’m shocked, I’m shocked to find Russia Spies! My god, man, say it ain’t so. Why, the next the thing you’ll tell me is that Israel spies? China Spies. And god forbid, the United States spies. Oh, the humanity!”

    Yours too. Trump is his hand puppet.

    No, he is not mine. I’ve been ranting against the US security/intel state for two decades. I don’t need the latest flavor of the month Emanuel Goldstein, er Vladimir Putin, to suddenly turn it into a organ opposed to my ends, an organ that views me as the enemy. It already was.

    No love for those keystone kops, they have more than enough blood on their hands. Fentanyl, human trafficking? They couldn’t find their ass with both hands.

    It is patently comical to claim that the United States with it’s 100 billion per annum intel budget(more than the rest of the world’s intel budgets combined) is the keystone cops why the Russians with a measly 2B budget are the true uber puppet masters. Comical on the surface and comical as a proposition because it is a self-defeating one. Putin controlling a vast foreign machine of keystone boobs is not a threat to anyone, except maybe to Putin’s secret uber wealth. A massive sunk cost.

  13. Andy

    It is estimated that the Rothschild banking family could be worth $2 trillion. Also, the Saudi Royal family is estimated to be worth $+.4 trillion.

  14. paulie Post author

    Those are families with a lot of people. The Saudi royals are literally thousands of people. No one person is in charge of all that wealth. The Crown Prince is the titular head but far from being truly in charge of the wealth of thousands of his distant cousins.

    The Rothschilds are likewise a large family with many different branches, so it’s not like any of them are individually trillionaires or even close to it. The Rothschilds are the subject of a lot of conspiracy theories, some plausibly true, but many of them exaggerated nonsense which traces back to antisemitic sources. While they are certainly wealthy, I would not be surprised if the $2T estimate is an exaggeration from one of those murky, shady sources with Jew-haters lurking in the shadows.

  15. paulie Post author

    However, I am skeptical that one could become a trillionaire by skimming from an economy that barely produces a trillion per annum GDP.

    It wasn’t done in one year, and some of it was earned with international investments.

  16. paulie Post author

    That sentiment pretty much sums up my reaction to what the US spooks are pushing, which is pretty much what you are pimping here since Clinton lost.

    They are pushing a watered down, dumbed down version. The evidence is overwhelming and I won’t go into it as I have other things to do, but the pattern is easy to recognize and I have spent a lot of time studying it. My best sources are actually in Russian, some risking their lives in or near Russia and some exiled abroad, who oppose Putin. They tend to write much more in depth and thoroughly than US sources. Russian readers are not as ADD addled as USians on average and so it tends to be at a higher level.

    The fact that Trump and his whole gang weren’t arrested for this obviously blatant shit before the election tells me that the MSM “anti-Trump” commentators and D minus politicians along with their friends in the (below average) “intelligence” community are at best making a show of opposition, a Potemkin village of resistance that will just aid the Trump regime in identifying the order in which it will round up actual opponents after they consolidate power and solidify control of the “intelligence” thug apparatus, media, legal machinery and legislative and judicial branches in the same way Putin and his gang did in Russia.

  17. DJ

    Russia controls the US. The Rothschilds are merely victims. Trump is a devil- because. Ban bump stocks too!
    Law abiding citizens have to pay the price for criminal minds….we need to throw more money at a problem than the NRA… brain wash kids. Hillary would have been different, just like Obama was different than Bush, who was different than Clinton- when identity politics is the game and when all else fails throw out the anti-card.
    ROTHLMFAO.

  18. DJ

    paulie: They are pushing a watered down, dumbed down version. The evidence is overwhelming and I won’t go into it as I have other things to do, but the pattern is easy to recognize and I have spent a lot of time studying it. My best sources are actually in Russian, some risking their lives in or near Russia and some exiled abroad, who oppose Putin. They tend to write much more in depth and thoroughly than US sources. Russian readers are not as ADD addled as USians on average and so it tends to be at a higher level.

    The fact that Trump and his whole gang weren’t arrested for this obviously blatant shit before the election tells me that the MSM “anti-Trump” commentators and D minus politicians along with their friends in the (below average) “intelligence” community are at best making a show of opposition, a Potemkin village of resistance that will just aid the Trump regime in identifying the order in which it will round up actual opponents after they consolidate power and solidify control of the “intelligence” thug apparatus, media, legal machinery and legislative and judicial branches in the same way Putin and his gang did in Russia.

    Me: Hook, line and sinker^^^^^^^ Putin thanks you!

  19. Thomas L. Knapp

    Did the Russian state, presumably on the orders of Vladimir, run a pretty amateur hour campaign to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election?

    Well, yeah. Just like the Soviet Union and then Russia has done in every US presidential election since, probably, 1920 and certainly by the 1930s.

    Is there any evidence that:

    1) Any actual voting systems were hacked, or any votes artificially modified?

    2) The outcome of the election — in any state or for that matter any precinct — was affected?

    3) The Trump campaign colluded with the Russian state to cause either (1) or (2)?

    If so, that evidence has yet to be publicly divulged.

    The “evidence” thus far publicly divulged is:

    1) Claims of hacking of e.g. the DNC by methods “consistent with Russian state actors” that are, per the published “evidence,” also consistent with every other hacker on the planet.

    2) The existence of some cheesy social media ads about helping Jesus beat Hillary Clinton.

    The biggest piece of fallout so far is large social media companies publicly declaring their enthusiasm for, and beginning to implement, censorship any communications the US political class might not like.

    The circumstantial evidence indicates that the Russian state had a well-paid mole in the highest levels of the US government, in the person of Hillary Clinton, doing its bidding from 2009-2013, and that that mole’s 2016 presidential campaign subsequently colluded, at least indirectly, with the Russian state (by paying a British intermediary, through a putatively outside law firm, to leverage Russian state sources for dirt), to affect the outcome of the election.

    Trump’s campaign seems to have done the same to a lesser, but more direct, degree (e.g. meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer who was supposedly going to give them dirt on Clinton).

    It’s all very interesting, but Derangement Syndrome relating to either of those candidates doesn’t really shed any light on it.

  20. paulie Post author

    TLK, I could literally type a book in response to that, but I don’t feel like it. I’ll just say that your spin on it is discredited by known facts so many different ways that I would hardly know where to start.

    I don’t think there’s any point in spending all the time and energy to try to convince those of you who as so deeply invested in the Kremlin spin/disinfo version of reality. I’d rather spend whatever little time I have left doing things that are more fun and/or productive.

    Even if I somehow managed to convince you to abandon Collusiongate Denial, what would be the benefit? It would be a drop in a sea. Meanwhile, we will still be rounded up and/or killed in a few short months or years. So, really, I don’t care what BS you believe. Sorry. It doesn’t matter anymore.

  21. paulie Post author

    If you were addressing yourself you would be correct. There’s tons of evidence, just not time or point in trying to discuss it here.

  22. Thomas L. Knapp

    If I had a dollar for every time you’ve claimed there’s “tons of evidence, just not time or point in trying to discuss it here,” I’d be as rich as Vladimir Putin.

    If I had a dollar for every time you’ve actually cited any evidence at all, well, I wouldn’t be able to buy anything at Dollar Tree.

  23. dL

    TLK, I could literally type a book in response to that, but I don’t feel like it. I’ll just say that your spin on it is discredited by known facts so many different ways that I would hardly know where to start.

    But you have never cited anything. Your Putin as global puppet master spin is pretty recent, coinciding with the Clinton spin. I’ve read this site on and off for years, and I can’t recall any warnings from you prior to last year’s election that Putin was leveraging his unprecedented personal secret wealth into global hegemony. For example, this 2014 story

    [“Libertarian Party of Russia: An appeal to western libertarians about the war in Ukraine”]
    http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/08/libertarian-party-of-russia-an-appeal-to-western-libertarians-about-the-war-in-ukraine/

    your first comment was:

    [Here’s the opposing view from Savva Vassiliev]
    http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/08/libertarian-party-of-russia-an-appeal-to-western-libertarians-about-the-war-in-ukraine/#comment-905198

    I would have expected more from you. With all this overwhelming evidence at foot–and given that it takes time to become a trillionare, this massive evidence should have been readily apparent in 2014–I would have thought you would have used that story to sound the warning. And not merely to point out that Russia vs Ukraine offers no good choice, or that Moscow is competing against Washington to see who can reach the authoritarian toilet the fastest(a point of view that few would contest). No, I would have expected something much more excitable along the lines of: “first Ukraine, then Washington, DC, then the world!” Abetted by a vast, unprecedented secret wealth rivaling the Rothschild family banking wealth(accumulated over 250 years) and a sprawling off-the books intel apparatus.

    I tend to take conspiracy theories more seriously when they predict the conspiracy. I tend to discount them when they, a la Clinton, declared Putin to be a friend in 2012 and then suddenly branded him Emmanuel Goldstein in 2017. Discerning minds might better conclude that Putin was Clinton scapegoat to cover for the actual, indisputable conspiracy of the 2016/2017 Presidential campaigns: that Clinton and the DNC colluded against the campaign of Bernie Sanders.

  24. DJ

    dl: Discerning minds might better conclude that Putin was Clinton scapegoat to cover for the actual, indisputable conspiracy of the 2016/2017 Presidential campaigns: that Clinton and the DNC colluded against the campaign of Bernie Sanders.

    Me: Discerning being key. Putin is at fault because…. Trump. Trump is a demon because….Putin. paulie can’t be right, or discerning, because he is too far left…ROTFLMFAO.
    Y’all are trading on thin ice. You may soon join me in the “I just doen’t reply to him” category, because……Trump is a demon and Putin….. because Trump, Hillary is a saint, so was Obama, and Sanders
    LOL……

  25. Thomas L. Knapp

    “paulie can’t be right, or discerning, because he is too far left”

    It would be interesting to try and figure out which of us — Paulie, myself, or dL — is furthest left. But all three of us are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the left of center-rightists like Hillary Clinton.

  26. dL

    Discerning being key. Putin is at fault because…. Trump. Trump is a demon because….Putin. paulie can’t be right, or discerning, because he is too far left…ROTFLMFAO.
    Y’all are trading on thin ice. You may soon join me in the “I just doen’t reply to him” category, because……Trump is a demon and Putin….. because Trump, Hillary is a saint, so was Obama, and Sanders
    LOL……

    DJ, I can’t quite make out your point. I generally agree with Pauli virtually 100% of the time. We do have a severe disagreement on this one issue. To generalize the issue: what constitutes the greatest organized threat to liberty world wide? My answer would be the unchecked unipolar power of the United States. His apparently would be the Putin led Russian government.

    If I were to critique my own position(and I always mentally debate both sides of an argument), I would assert that I’m too lenient on the potential counterweights to US unipolar hegemony. And to a certain extent, that charge has some merit. But it’s more of a crime of omission. I don’t spend my time talking about the crimes of the Putin government, the Iranian government, the Venezuelan government or the Ecuadoran government. Of course, if I lived in those places, I’m sure I would spend a lot more time talking about them.

  27. paulie Post author

    If I had a dollar for every time you’ve actually cited any evidence at all, well, I wouldn’t be able to buy anything at Dollar Tree.

    What would be the point? There is a lot of evidence, it can be discussed in endless detail, and I don’t have the time. Why start down that path when I don’t have time or inclination to do it justice, it would just lead to snowballing amounts of back and forth and repetitiveness, etc, etc? All it does is raise my blood pressure and I have other things to do. What prize would I gain if I somehow managed to convince you? I don’t care if you believe me that there is plenty of evidence. I’d rather take that time to learn even yet more details about it myself, or do hundreds of other things that are more fun and/or productive than the endless back and forth on here.

    Whether you and if I’m lucky 5 of 10 others continue to dwell in and perpetuate Denialville won’t save my ass from the camps or whatever unpleasant early death awaits so why should I bother to even begin trying to convince you? It’s not worth it, at all.

  28. paulie Post author

    I’ve read this site on and off for years, and I can’t recall any warnings from you prior to last year’s election that Putin was leveraging his unprecedented personal secret wealth into global hegemony.

    You missed a few things over the years and I don’t know how to search them out nor do I care to try.

    your first comment was:

    [Here’s the opposing view from Savva Vassiliev]
    http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2014/08/libertarian-party-of-russia-an-appeal-to-western-libertarians-about-the-war-in-ukraine/#comment-905198

    And? I was trying to stir discussion and present opposing views for context, as I often do. Read the rest of my comments in that thread for better context and for that matter read or re-read that article itself.

    indisputable conspiracy of the 2016/2017 Presidential campaigns: that Clinton and the DNC colluded against the campaign of Bernie Sanders.

    Yes, that happened too. So did a few other things, each of which by itself was more than enough to change the outcome of the election. Which, actually, at this point is way besides the point anyway.

  29. paulie Post author

    “paulie can’t be right, or discerning, because he is too far left”

    LOL, did someone actually say that?

    It would be interesting to try and figure out which of us — Paulie, myself, or dL — is furthest left. But all three of us are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the left of center-rightists like Hillary Clinton.

    Yes, never mind far rightists like Trump and Putin.

  30. paulie Post author

    DJ, I can’t quite make out your point.

    You’re wasting your time. He has none. It’s why I stopped reading his comments.

    To generalize the issue: what constitutes the greatest organized threat to liberty world wide? My answer would be the unchecked unipolar power of the United States. His apparently would be the Putin led Russian government.

    Both, and neither. The US and its client regimes have certainly done their share of ugly things around the world, but when the USSR and its client regimes constituted a superpower did that make them any less bad? Of course not. Putinism, and Trumpism, and eurofascism, and authoritarian populist-nationalist movement from Turkey to the Philippines to what have you all funded by Putin and friends and cheered by Trump, are they any less bad for what US power has done around the world? And if the Cheeto Benito follows the same playbook that Putin, Erdogan, Duterte and many others used to consolidate power, who cares, right?

    I’m too lenient on the potential counterweights to US unipolar hegemony.

    No worries. The US is now neutralized. The world can finally breathe free as the LePens and Farages rise up to join Putin, Trump, Erdogan, Duterte and a worldwide network of nationalist, populist authoritarian regimes. Trump can repay the people who didn’t help get him out of bankruptcy, didn’t help him get elected, didn’t launder a bunch of their money through his real estate projects, etc, etc, and we can all enjoy the coming golden age of freedom as Trump conquers the fake news media, brings the foreign and domestic intelligence and police apparatus under the control of his personal loyalists and turns them against anyone he doesn’t like, gains firm control of the legislative and judicial branches, and exhorts the police to not be so gentle with the protesters and the suspects. Then we can look forward to mass deportations, show trials, and lots of other even more fun stuff. It will be unipolar and multipolar, all at the same time. War against North Korea? War against China? War against Islam? A Duterte style war on drugs in the US, and/or globally? Sure, why not all of the above?

  31. paulie Post author

    I don’t spend my time talking about the crimes of the Putin government, the Iranian government, the Venezuelan government or the Ecuadoran government. Of course, if I lived in those places, I’m sure I would spend a lot more time talking about them.

    Congratulations! You now live in one of those places. It’s just not as far along in the autocratic consolidation of power. But it won’t be long before we too enjoy the full benefits of that consolidation and get to experience it right here at home.

  32. dL

    Then we can look forward to mass deportations, show trials, and lots of other even more fun stuff. It will be unipolar and multipolar, all at the same time. War against North Korea? War against China? War against Islam? A Duterte style war on drugs in the US, and/or globally? Sure, why not all of the above?

    You prattling like the State of Exception, Necro Politics==State power as the self-appointed right to inflict terror and death(Giorgio Agamben, Achille Mbembe). I don’t necessarily disagree with that ultimate conclusion. However, it is not a new idea. It was propounded and developed long before anyone had ever heard of Vladimir Putin. You seem to think the United States was the thing standing between that reality. But that type of analysis has long been the province of the left-wing African American critique of the United States. If anyone is welcoming anyone else to the club, it would be them.

  33. DJ

    TLK: It would be interesting to try and figure out which of us — Paulie, myself, or dL — is furthest left. But all three of us are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to the left of center-rightists like Hillary Clinton.

    Me: Not for me.

  34. DJ

    dl: DJ, I can’t quite make out your point. I generally agree with Pauli virtually 100% of the time. We do have a severe disagreement on this one issue. To generalize the issue: what constitutes the greatest organized threat to liberty world wide? My answer would be the unchecked unipolar power of the United States. His apparently would be the Putin led Russian government.

    Me: Yep- I prefer the humorous look. Trump is the devil because- Putin. Putin is the devil because- Trump. Hillary (Democrats in general) is a saint and so was Obama- who was just like Bush, who was just like Bill- they’re ALL phony’s. They ALL subscribe to the hegemony of the neo-liberal creed- US Imperialism by whatever means necessary. The left vs right paradigm disappears inside the beltway except rhetoric and personality/identity politics. They ALL sell the sanctity of red, white and blue BS and then do exactly what doesn’t protect, defend or uphold, intentionally, and in fact create a left right division (Trump is the devil, which is exactly like Republicans and Obama) mentality to mentally the challenged…. and I don’t like it, or appreciate ANY person calling my thinking, in words, drivel- especially one(s) who are so obvious in their bias (hate).

    dl: If I were to critique my own position(and I always mentally debate both sides of an argument), I would assert that I’m too lenient on the potential counterweights to US unipolar hegemony. And to a certain extent, that charge has some merit. But it’s more of a crime of omission. I don’t spend my time talking about the crimes of the Putin government, the Iranian government, the Venezuelan government or the Ecuadoran government. Of course, if I lived in those places, I’m sure I would spend a lot more time talking about them.

    Me: If I were to critique your position I would say; You’re very reasoned (as I have in the past). But, I’m not critiquing paulie. I’m criticizing his obvious ‘hate’ of anyone who disagrees with his ‘far’ left opinions, his unwillingness to talk to me, an admitted outsider, who disagrees with his take on Charlottesville (which Luke did as well) and decided he’d rather ignore me- I can only surmise it’s because I didn’t think his take on Charlottesville was very astute- it was extremely biased and only considered one set of facts. That is not “reasoned”- my take was “reasoned” (looking at BOTH sides) and he called it drivel- so, no I won’t “waste” my time critiquing- but, when opportunity presents itself to ridicule an obvious bias, I will.

  35. DJ

    Yes, I said “far” left, and not the European model- the US model, which is publicly represented with a bunch of bat-shit crazy people who believe Guam will tip over, or guns kill, not people, or gov’t is the solution to problems “leftist” gov’t created- that ‘anyone’ to the right of Nancy Pelosi (who is a phony) or Obama (who is a phony) is the devil- because Trump- and anyone who doesn’t believe Trump and Putin are a team is an idiot or just haven’t read the right book, or letter, or news story and that no one, except someone whose experienced a certain level of anti-semitism can possibly have a “reasoned” belief, never mind express it.

    To wit:

    paulie Post author
    February 25, 2018 at 00:52

    DJ, I can’t quite make out your point.

    You’re wasting your time. He has none. It’s why I stopped reading his comments.

  36. LG

    Me and some other well known Libs once bought LSD with silver while travelling about. I felt soooooo Libertarian. Good for John and also who cares . 🙂

  37. paulie Post author

    But that type of analysis has long been the province of the left-wing African American critique of the United States.

    Certainly, there are too many elements of it already in the long existing US system. If you think it isn’t significantly worse in say Russia, Turkey or the Philippines, or didn’t get significantly worse in those countries under their present leaderships in the last few years, or that Drumpf is not following that same model in the US, or that Putin isn’t actively working to bring leaders to power (and maintain them in power) throughout the former Soviet sphere of influence, throughout Europe, and yes, in the US and elsewhere too with the same agenda of making things significantly more kleptocratic and authoritarian, or that the Cheeto Benito isn’t on board with that exact same plan both at home and abroad, you are deeply mistaken.

    Collusion/compromise isn’t just about the 2016 election, it is ongoing right now and goes back long, long before the 2016 election – for example in the cases of Manafort and Stone to the 1990s and in the case of Drumpf himself also at least that far back, to when shady Russian sources likely financed him out of bankruptcy by laundering money through his real estate.

    And me not wanting to take on the role of unpaid prosecutor by presenting, proving and endlessly multi-cross-examining the evidence here is not the same thing as me not having the evidence. If someone wanted to hire me to be a prosecutor, I could consider whether I wanted that job and even then even if I took it I would get to go home at night. Taking that job on for no pay in a tiny court of public opinion with no power to do anything whatsoever about it if they convict and a proceedings that takes places 24/7 doesn’t seem like the best use of my time and energy to me. I know that if I post any evidence the discussion will just keep snowballing so since I don’t want to take the time to do it justice I choose not to start down that path. That is not the same thing as not having evidence. If you choose to believe that I am lying about having the evidence, that’s OK, I’ll have to live with that.

  38. dL

    Certainly, there are too many elements of it already in the long existing US system. If you think it isn’t significantly worse in say Russia, Turkey or the Philippines, or didn’t get significantly worse in those countries under their present leaderships in the last few years, or that Drumpf is not following that same model in the US, or that Putin isn’t actively working to bring leaders to power (and maintain them in power) throughout the former Soviet sphere of influence, throughout Europe, and yes, in the US and elsewhere too with the same agenda of making things significantly more kleptocratic and authoritarian, or that the Cheeto Benito isn’t on board with that exact same plan both at home and abroad, you are deeply mistaken.

    Pauli, you are moving the goalposts. To me, any competent libertarian two decades should have known that a permanent war on terror results in an institutionalized state of exception that ultimately results in a type of necro politics. And that it is given immunity from any reform by:

    (1) a sociopathic culture war that turns politics from the organization of plunder(the use of politics as means for you come out ahead) to the organization of punishing political enemies/groups(the use of politics to ensure someone else comes out way behind, even if it results in you ending up worse off).

    (2) a complete breakdown in any institutional trust, private or public.

    I don’t need Trump or Putin to arrive at that. Not then. Not now. Is Trump accelerating the trend? Absolutely. Of course, I also think this sudden emergence of neo-McCarthyism is accelerating it, too.

    RE: Russia, Turkey or the Philippines…Well, given that Puerto Rico is an commonwealth territory of the United States, I would use that as an example vis a vis necro politics to proffer that certain parts/communities of the United States are worse, and that Puerto Rico at present is exceeded only by Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq(3 other places that the United States self-appoints itself the right to inflict terror and death).

    The actual goal post: Putin subversively engineered the US election, Putin has a trillion dollar plus secret stash to exert a de fact intelligence control of US power, making Russia the de fact unipolar power, blah, blah…

    Your ball kick through the goal post: well, your position that you are unwilling to try to kick the ball until someone signs you to a professional contract is neither convincing, compelling or particularly sympathetic

  39. DJ

    The Trump derangement syndrome is alive and well. LMFAO

    I guess pointing out a perceived problem of a political foe is akin to fixing the perceived problem.

  40. paulie Post author

    Pauli

    Paul, or paulie. The i and the e are a package deal.

    well, your position that you are unwilling to try to kick the ball until someone signs you to a professional contract is neither convincing, compelling or particularly sympathetic

    I don’t care. I own my time and I decide if it’s worth it to spend it presenting evidence, which would only lead to snowballing back and forth if I did. Re-read my last post if you think I said I would want to spend my time that way if someone paid me to. I just said I wouldn’t think about it if no one does (and no one will), but even if someone was stupid enough to pay me to do it, I still would not want that job. For one thing, unlike in the case of a real prosecutor, even if I proved the case beyond the shadow of a doubt to a small handful of people who would bother to read everything I wrote, there is no judge and jury here with any power to incarcerate, remove from office, fine, or in any way materially impact the miscreants. For another, unlike a real prosecutor, I wouldn’t get to go home at night, because court is is session 24/7 and for that matter there is no end point when the jury or judge is done hearing evidence and goes to make the decision for good or for bad.

    I know myself. I have an addictive personality. So, the best way to not go down that unproductive and frustrating path is to just not start. So yes I have evidence, and no I will not be presenting it here, or any other IPR thread or anywhere else. If that means you, Knapp and a few other people think I am lying about having volumes of evidence I have seen, so be it. I don’t give a massive shit, regular size shit, mouse turd or any kind of shit at all. I know I have seen plenty of evidence, and that’s good enough for me. You don’t have to believe me and I don’t have to care if you do or not.

    I don’t care if it’s convincing, compelling or sympathetic. I don’t have to convince anyone. I’m not going to waste my time trying to. That’s all there is to it and it isn’t going to change. Not even if someone paid me, much less otherwise.

  41. dL

    I know myself. I have an addictive personality. So, the best way to not go down that unproductive and frustrating path is to just not start.

    Why are you playing the victim card?

  42. paulie Post author

    I’m not playing a victim card, or any card at all. I’m just not playing period.

    Knowing something does not carry or imply the obligation of trying to prove it to the satisfaction of whoever demands that I do so. Not being willing to spend a lot of time trying it to prove it to their (your, in this case) satisfaction does not mean or imply I don’t know it. I choose to use my time in other ways, that’s all. The time I want to devote to IPR comment back and forth, if you haven’t noticed, is now very limited. I am somewhat exceeding what I would ideally like to allocate to that in the last few weeks, mostly at the expense of posting new articles, which I was trying to start back up doing. I have a lot of other things I am doing offline right now and the last thing I want is to be dragged into a lot of back and forth on IPR comments.

    I have a multifaceted addiction problem. Sometimes it’s drugs, sometimes it’s food, sometimes it’s gambling, sometimes it’s work, sometimes it’s whatever. I tend to overdo things to a point where it becomes very detrimental to me. A lot of times it has been arguing politics online. So the best time to cut that shit off is before it starts. Again, I don’t have to prove anything to anyone, I don’t care if you believe me, and it doesn’t make me wrong. Being unwilling to make a case and being unable to make it are two different things. I am able but not willing. If you don’t believe that, I don’t care. I’m still not willing. And that will not change.

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