Impersonators posing as political candidates and party officers at Independent Political Report, Green Party Watch and other sites

Posted by Ronald Hardy at Green Party Watch:



Several individuals associated with the “Independent Greens of Virginia” have been banned from posting comments on Green Party Watch following accusations that they have been “posing” as political candidates in comments without those candidates knowledge.

The Independent Greens of Virginia are NOT affiliated with the Green Party of the United States. They claim affiliation with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, and endorse Independent candidates in Virginia against their will.

A comment posted here on July 31, 2009, claimed to be Aaron Tweedie, an Independent running for Virginia’s House of Delegates. The “fake Aaron Tweedie” wrote that he was collecting petition signatures in 2000, supposedly in Texas for Ralph Nader, and touted Teresa Amato’s new book “Grand Illusion”. Another post the following day also claimed to be Aaron Tweedie, touting “high speed rail” in Virginia. Both posts were written with the email address novagreen@prodigy.net, from the IP address 173.66.53.204

Last night the Real Aaron Tweedie posted here:

This is Aaron N. Tweedie, the real candidate for 29th district of VA house of delegates. The above post is from an imposter. I was not in Texas gathering petition signatures in 2000. I was in VA building houses. I have never read “Grand Illusion” and am not familiar with the author Teresa Amato. I do not get my courage from the Green Party, but from knowing that I speak truth, and what I am doing is honorable, regardless of the outcome. I do not lie, and want all to know the above posts are falsehoods. I am not a Green Party member, and will remember this deception if I ever do pick a party.

After following up with Mr. Tweedie, we have determined that we are pretty certain who is falsely claiming to be him, as well as posing as up to a dozen more candidates for office in Virginia. Mr. Tweedie will be consulting his legal counsel and we here fully intend to support him in any action he takes against the Independent Greens of Virginia. Furthermore, we will be contacting the other candidates, all of them Independents in Virginia, and make them aware of the comments being posted here in their name.

This person, affiliated with the “Indy Greens of Virginia”, has posted comments under the names of:

Anthony Triplin, French Mackes, Robert Smith, Anna Marie Choi, Shirley Havey, Monique Berry, Watkins Abbit, Craig Ennis, Todd Jack, Sherman Witcher, Bill Grogan, John Parmele, Aaron Tweedie, and even Joe Shriner, who is an Ohio Politician seeking the Green Party nomination for President.

All of the above individuals are listed as candidates on the Independent Greens of Virginia website, but many are listed as “endorsed”, not actual members of the Independent Greens of Virginia. All of the comments from the above “candidates” came from one person, at one IP address, with the email address novagreen@prodigy.net.

Impersonating a political candidate for office is a serious offense, and we have blocked the offending IP addresses from posting here. We will be cooperating with any legal action any of these candidates choose to take in response to this frankly embarrassing revelation about the Independent Greens of Virginia.



And, in related news, an email exchange between Constitution Party candidate Bill Lussenheide and IPR/me:



CCing Quirk, Winger and IPR list.

Richard is CCed to confirm the info below about false posts from 207.200.116.71 under Cody Quirk, Don Grundmann and Bill Lussenheide, and any others.

IPR list and Cody:

That may be redundant, since Quirk now writes for IPR.

But I do not know if he was ever added to the email list.

Cody: you may want to check if all the comments in your name at IPR are genuine, and if you are in touch with Grundmann you may want to send him his and see whether his are all genuine as well.

HOW TO DO THIS: go to
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-admin/edit-comments.php

There is a search box (top right). Enter 207.200.116.71

Go through the pages (looks like 9 pages of comments from that IP) and see if any of the ones in your name are fakes. You can also send Grundmann a copy of all his and see if any of those are fakes.

-p

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Bill Lussenheide wrote:

Someone has been going to Ballot Access News, posting false poste, and using this same IP for imitations of Quirk, Grundmann, and I confirmed this with Richard Winger. The common factor here is that these are all people that Mark Seidenberg is against, which for some reason also includes me.

He is against the Nightingale campaign, etc as well.

So someone is playing games, imitating Quirk, Lussenheide and Grundman.

I will not be posting on IPR using the Lussenheide name from here on out. ANY post on IPR with LUSSENHEIDE as its author can be considered a FALSE POSTING.

Thanks for being on this. Internet impostoring is now a crime in several states.

I appreciate your work and efforts.

Bill Lussenheide

I altered the comment as follows:

Fake “Bill Lussenheide” imitator
BillLussenheide@verizon.net
207.200.116.71
Submitted on 2009/08/18 at 2:56pm

IPR note: Bill Lussenheide emailed IPR that this comment was actually not made by him and asked that it be removed. Since people responded to it, I decided to alter it to reflect these facts rather than delete it; hope that’s OK. – Paulie, 2009.09.05

I suppose I am an extremist. Some people have said I have mental illness
because I believe in ALL that the bible
professes. I do know that I will fight
for my freedom to think and say whatever I want. I am running for congress in CA District 49. My platform is running the gov. as the BIBLE says the gov should be RUN!!!!
The bible is the only law BOOK YOU should ever NEED!!!! Vote for me

FAKE “BILL LUSSENHEIDE” IMITATOR
constitution candidate
District 49 CA

I will end all wars and close all borders
and make sure our children believe in GOD!!

Note that the email address and IP address are not visible except through the IPR dashboard/control panel.

Comment names from that same IP [are:]

Cody Quirk (multiple comments on different threads)

Don Grundmann (multiple comments on different threads)

patriot1 (multiple comments on different threads)

“CA voter” multiple comments on thread Chelene Nightingale annouces candidacy for Governor

Chris Agrella on Libertarian Christopher Agrella among three ballot-listed candidates for 32nd CD

“joe” on Alan Keyes claims Ron Paul learned of Federal Reserve from him and The text of Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and Chuck Baldwin’s letter to Governor Jay Nixon

Bobby XD9 on Chelene Nightingale joins the Constitution Party

And this one:

gavin
billlusshiede@verizon.et
207.200.116.71
Submitted on 2009/09/01 at 12:28pm

what kind of comment is that? Beware of this guys websites LUSSENHEIDE FOR congress They have virus and malware planted on them.
US Senator Gordon Smith (R-OR) attacks Constitution Party challenger David Brownlow in paid TV ads

http://network-tools.com/default.asp?prog=lookup&host=207.200.116.71

IP address: 207.200.116.71
Host name: cache-ntc-ab07.proxy.aol.com

Thus, it appears to be America Online.

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:09 PM, Bill Lussenheide wrote:

Thanks for your due diligence. I have ceased posting in light of this onslaught of Lussenheide Impostor posts. The following post (obviously) was not made by me. – I appreciate you in advance deleting it. Is it possible to track the IP address of whoever is doing this and have it blocked? – Sincerely, Bill Lussenheide

Constitution Party responds to Homeland Security report
April 16th, 2009 · 34 Comments
Bill Lussenheide // Aug 18, 2009 at 2:56 pm

I suppose I am an extremist. Some people have said I have mental illness
because I believe in ALL that the bible
professes. I do know that I will fight
for my freedom to think and say whatever I want. I am running for congress in CA District 49. My platform is running the gov. as the BIBLE says the gov should be RUN!!!!
The bible is the only law BOOK YOU should ever NEED!!!! Vote for me

BILL LUSSENHEIDE
constitution candidate
District 49 CA

I will end all wars and close all borders
and make sure our children believe in GOD!!

24 thoughts on “Impersonators posing as political candidates and party officers at Independent Political Report, Green Party Watch and other sites

  1. paulie Post author

    Barack,

    Speaking only for myself, I’m not too concerned about people who post in the name of someone like Barack Obama that no one will reasonably expect to have really posted here. That’s not the same thing as posting in the name of Constitution, Green or Independent candidates.

    By the way, I already knew you were born in Kenya, as anyone can see for themselves:

    http://kenyanbirthcertificategenerator.com/

    I also know that you are a reptilian space alien.

    You have no secrets from me, Mr. President-select.

  2. Jeremy Young

    I have to say, I do not believe this is a prosecutable offense. It is a dick move and the perpetrator deserves to be banned, but I don’t think it’s illegal. People do this stuff all the time on the Internet.

  3. paulie Post author

    Jeremy,

    1) According to both GPW and Lussenheide, it actually is illegal in some states. As to whether it should be or not, that is a separate issue. There could be potential liability here; I’m not sure whether it could extend to IPR, or what the likelihood of any actual legal action would be.

    2) I’m not sure how, exactly, we could ban this person. As far as I have been able to determine, the posts originated from a portable AOL IP from which Cody Quirk, Don Grundmann and several other people have frequently posted — unless all those posts were also faked, and I saw nothing about them which would indicate they were.

    It is, however, somewhat odd that all of the comments were made (or allegedly made) by people who are or were involved with the Constitution Party and/or anti-migrant movement in Southern California, with the exception of one comment by (or allegedly by) a Libertarian candidate. For all I know, he may be anti-migrant, too – many Libertarians these days, unfortunately, are.

    Don’t any Greens or other folks in Southern California or Nevada use AOL as well?

    In any case, I’d like to find out whether Quirk, Grundmann and others are in fact also being impersonated here as Lussenheide claims.

  4. Jeremy Young

    Yeah, bannings on WP blogs are very difficult. Blogger too. I actually tried and failed to ban someone on Blogger last year because I couldn’t even figure out what IP he’d posted from.

    Sounds like a big nightmare. Good luck with all this.

  5. Brandon Trent

    Can it be proven that it was a case of fraud?

    If not the leadership of the Independent Green Party can sue GPW and IRP for libel

  6. paulie Post author

    I’m reposting information that was made available by GPW. I am not making any claims on its veracity beyond the fact that it was posted at GPW. Also, I have no knowledge about the fake comments attributed to CP members other than the emails from Bill Lussenheide.

  7. paulie Post author

    Well if GPW was able to ban people, then IPR should be able to ban people as well.

    Theoretically, we could.

    It’s just that a lot of apparently legitimate comments from several people, including one of those that writes for IPR, are coming from the same floating AOL IP as the fake Lussenheide comments.

    Unless those comments are fake as well.

    Figuring the extent of that problem is probably the main reason for this post.

  8. Michael Cavlan

    I was banned from GP Watch.

    //:-D>———-

    We have the technology. It can be done.

    LOL

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

    Perhaps I could pass as James Tiberius Kirk.

  9. paulie Post author

    Again, see comment 12.

    Yes, we can ban IPs, but in this case it may be painting with too broad a brush, as there are many legitimate comments from the same IP from several other people, as far as I can tell – unless they are in fact not legitimate comments.

    That is what I am trying to figure out.

  10. Morgan Brykein

    Grundmann’s comments were either fakes or he sincerely thinks he’s vice chairman of the Californian American Independent Party.

    And anybody who thinks Obama was born in Kenya needs to just get over the fact that we have a black president.

  11. paulie Post author

    or he sincerely thinks he’s vice chairman of the Californian American Independent Party.

    He’s vice chairman of one of the two competing factions.

  12. Trent Hill

    “If not the leadership of the Independent Green Party can sue GPW and IRP for libel”

    Let them try.

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