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Dr. Tom Stevens reports on New York Governors and other statewide races

Posted by Dr. Tom Stevens at Liberty Lion:

LPNY Gubernatorial Nomination Controversy: Supreme Court Of The State Of New York Intervenes (excerpt):

Kristin Davis, Sam Sloan and Warren Redlich were the three announced candidates for the gubernatorial nomination of the Libertarian Party of New York in 2010. Warren Redlich, a Republican attorney, was considered the odds-on-favorite to win the nomination and was endorsed by former Libertarian Party State Chairs Eric Sundwall & Rich Cooper, current LPNY State Chair Chris Edes, and future LPNY State Chair Mark Axinn. Kristin Davis, former Madam to Governor Eliot Spitzer, was the highest profile candidate in the race with Roger Stone as her Campaign Advisor. Sam Sloan was a Libertarian Party activist who had been unanimously elected State Representative for the Manhattan Libertarian Party in January, 2010 and who had been endorsed for the gubernatorial nomination by the Libertarian Party of Queens County.

The Libertarian Party of New York’s State Convention was held on Saturday, April 24, 2010 at the Hilton Garden Inn in Albany, New York. Before the LPNY State Convention was over, Kristin Davis would withdraw as a potential gubernatorial nominee of the Libertarian Party, threaten to sue Warren Redlich for $25,000,000 for calling her “a whore”, and would promise to run for Governor as the candidate of a new Personal Freedom Party. Sam Sloan would end up successfully obtaining a Court Order from the Supreme Court of the State of New York directing LPNY State Chair Chris Edes to hand over the list of voting delegates to him so he could properly compete for the nomination. Mr. Edes ended up not complying with that Court Order and would have to answer for that on May 23, 2010 before Justice Carol R. Edmead in Civil Part 35 of the Supreme Court of the State of New York, New York County.

Warren Redlich was almost guaranteed the nomination of the Libertarian Party of New York for Governor since his supporters would almost certainly dominate the 40+ delegates attending the LPNY State Convention due to his insider support and due to the fact that the convention was scheduled to be held in Albany, New York, which was virtually in Redlich’s backyard. Realizing this advantage, both Kristin Davis and Sam Sloan sought to obtain the list of 300-400 eligible voting delegates so they could mail their campaign literature to them and encourage them to attend the LPNY State Convention to participate in the process. The list of eligible delegates was not provided to either Kristin Davis or Sam Sloan.

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[Note from Paulie: more recently, Davis has said her new party would be the Free Libertarian Party, which previously existed in New York State. The most recent revision of her website does not say what the party will be called, unless it will be “PRO-MARIJUANA, PRO-FREEDOM.”]


Bachelors For Link Forms To Support Alden Link, Libertarian Party Candidate For Lt. Governor Of New York (excerpt):

On May 24, 2010, Dr. Tom Stevens announced the formation of Bachelors For Link, a group formed to support Alden Link, the nominee of the Libertarian Party of New York for Lt. Governor in 2010.

In forming the group, Dr. Stevens said:

Bachelors often feel pressure to get married and to live a conventional lifestyle. Despite choosing to be “unattached”, they often face ridicule and are the subject of “whispering campaigns” questioning their sexual orientation. We are proud to support Alden Link, the Libertarian Party’s candidate for Lt. Governor of New York State, who has socially tolerant views and a principled belief that people should be able to organize their lives as they see fit without private sanction or governmental interference.

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Warren Redlich: Was He Ever Serious About Seeking The Republican Party’s Gubernatorial Nomination?(excerpt):

There has been a lot of recent speculation with respect to what happened between Warren Redlich, the nominated gubernatorial candidate of the Libertarian Party of New York, and the New York Chapter of the Republican Liberty Caucus. There had been rumors that Mr. Redlich had initially sought the endorsement of the Republican Liberty Caucus but then, upon not immediately receiving it, had informed the RLCNY that he would not accept their endorsement.

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  1. paulie paulie June 6, 2010

    H/T George Phillies. I’ve previously read Stevens’ blog, but Phillies directed me this morning to look at the first item, about LPNY nomination candidates suing each other. Quite a mess.

  2. LibertarianBlue LibertarianBlue June 6, 2010

    This is something we definitely dont need right now. We havent had a chance this strong to get our guy in Albany for years, we cant blow it. Sloan had been pressing for awhile that Warren isnt a “real” Libertarian. You would think he would learn to let it go since the nomination is over and done with. Warren doesnt need these attacks from fellow party members, he’ll get enough of it from Cuomo, Bartczak, Paladino, Levy and Lazio.

  3. paulie paulie June 6, 2010

    If you read the rest of that first post…height of judicial arrogance IMO. The judge sounds quite unprofessional.

  4. are they all nuts? are they all nuts? June 6, 2010

    What’s the deal with NOT providing a list of delegates to declared candidates for the LP nomination for Governor?

    Providing this list would seem to be an automatic requirement for the party. Each nominee should be able to seek support of party members.

    In addition, this is in the interest of the LPNY since it would increase turnout at the convention and give the LP a chance to increase their base of active members and donors from the existing base, and to reach out to new members and donors through the activation of additional membership.

    So, what’t the deal with Chris Edes not providing the list. Bad chair to start. Corrupt maybe. Not a libertarian possibly.

    And now, what’s the deal with Warren Redlich? Isn’t anyone from the NYLP actively working with him on his “campaign?” Don’t they know what his plans are? Was everything just a lot of smoke blown from one mouth?

    This is a combination of first order screw ups that shows why the LPNY has never obtained ballot status in all its years of existance. In a state as big as New York with the very high campaign donation limits it should be relatively easy, if someone would just recruit a serious candidate in advance, do a bit of fundraising, try to build an actual LP PARTY group – a mailing list of 300 is just an embarrassment!

    I’m disappointed and disgusted.

  5. LibertarianBlue LibertarianBlue June 6, 2010

    And now, what’s the deal with Warren Redlich? Isn’t anyone from the NYLP actively working with him on his “campaign?” Don’t they know what his plans are? Was everything just a lot of smoke blown from one mouth?
    ___________________________–

    As far as I know Eric Sundwell is working heavily with Warren’s campaign. How can you say that Warren is blowing smoke? He’s been doing interviews and what not. If you want smoke, look at the Lazio, Levy and Paladino campaigns.

  6. Dr. Tom Stevens Dr. Tom Stevens June 6, 2010

    I just heard from Mark Axinn, LPNY Chair, that Warren Redlich only attended the first day of the Republican Party Convention, which was NOT the day they were considering their nominees for governor, YET Redlich claims he is seeking the Republican Party’s Gubernatorial Nomination. Go figure!

  7. Eric Sundwall Eric Sundwall June 6, 2010

    The plan was always to primary in the GOP. We knew from the get go, that getting the nomination at convention was a non-reality.

    Warren runs a business, unlike the other professional politicians of the machine. His attendance garnered an article in the Times Union and a YNN television interview.

    Unfortunately the primary challenge group did not select Warren a few weeks ago at their meeting in Albany, which he did attend. They seem enamored by the Hillary/Schumer donating Paladino.

    So basically our initial strategy of going primary will prove problematic.

    Mr. Stevens will be a persistent problem for the campaign. His constant criticism and lack of support tends to discourage involvement by those who might otherwise be inclined.

    Likewise the actions of Mr. Sloan in court have been equally disruptive in terms of party unity. While Mr. Edes should have released the list to Sam, it would have made little difference in the final result.

    Sam was given the entire list from the Capital District, gratis and it was meaningless. His quadrennial rambling for the nomination is always a source of bemusement, but no amount of court pleadings or personal hand wringing would sway the regular delegates that Sam’s the man . . .

    The bottom line is that we have donations coming in and many volunteers to assist. The Siena poll in March had Warren running 3-4% which would directly translate to well over 50K votes, don’t let Mr. Stevens or Sloan’s vitriol effect your perception of the real campaign.

  8. clay clay June 6, 2010

    I think Warren Redlich should come out vocally in support of the Senate legislation currently being considered which changes the definition of a political party in New York State to a group that gets fifty thousand votes for any statewide office rather than just governor. The whole Libertarian slate should.

  9. Michael H. Wilson Michael H. Wilson June 6, 2010

    On his website Paladino writes; “MEDICAID
    Today, non-New Yorkers ride the backs of our taxpayers; they move here and lay down on our welfare rolls immediately. No longer. As Governor Carl Paladino will require a minimum one-year residency in New York before someone is eligible for Medicaid and welfare benefits. And he’ll cut wasteful Medicaid options that make ours the most expensive in the nation – and save New Yorkers $10 billion annually.”

    If I recall correctly there is a court decision that has set the standard on this issue and governors have little say in residency requirements.

  10. Jeremy Young Jeremy Young June 6, 2010

    And in other news, if elected Governor, Carl Paladino will lasso the moon and serve green cheese to every New Yorker. Dream big, people!

  11. Warren Redlich Warren Redlich June 7, 2010

    Stevens is comical. First he complains that I’m seeking the GOP nomination. Now he complains that I’m not doing enough.

    On the 2nd day of the GOP convention I was in Orange County Court, handling two drug felonies. I don’t just talk about opposing the drug war. I work on defending its victims.

    Paladino’s popularity within the Tea Party movement may well mean we cannot get on the GOP ballot. I might then be able to spend the $5K for that on the LPNY petitioning instead. Stevens will probably complain about that too. The big question about Stevens is this – will there come a point where he will actually support the LPNY candidate for Governor?

    On another note, the new revision of her website indicates that Ms. Davis has a new campaign manager. Whither the great Stone? And what does this mean for Madam Governor?

  12. AroundtheblockAFT AroundtheblockAFT June 7, 2010

    As I recall, the 1991 convention in Chicago flew American revolution flags, including a “76” flag (donated by Calvin Warburton, a Libertarian state legislator from New Hampshire) beneath the podium. Perhaps the Ft. Moultrie “Liberty” flag should have been promiently displayed?

  13. Sam Sloan Sam Sloan June 7, 2010

    Warren Redlich wrote above:

    “Paladino’s popularity within the Tea Party movement may well mean we cannot get on the GOP ballot. I might then be able to spend the $5K for that on the LPNY petitioning instead. Stevens will probably complain about that too.”.

    Which $5K are you referring to? I hope that you are not planning on getting $5K from me. I only promised to donate $5K to the party if I won the nomination.

    Do you have another source for $5K?

    Sam Sloan

  14. John Sproul John Sproul June 7, 2010

    If Warren Redlich can win at least 50,000 votes in November, that would give the NY LP permanent ballot status for the next four years. That would be a huge step in building up a strong, nationwide third party in the US. The LP is presently active in all 50 states. Establishing a solid, credible third party on a nationwide basis that can consistently get invited to televised candidate debates can only benefit voters.

  15. Dr. Tom Stevens Dr. Tom Stevens June 7, 2010

    Mr. Redlich,

    You are very confused. I never opposed your seeking the GOP nomination for Governor. I have always claimed your campaign lied to the LPNY leadership and that you had no intention of every petitioning to get on the Republican Party’s Primary Ballot or competing for the nomination.

    You stated up front that your wife would not allow you to spend one dime on the LPNY statewide petition drive. How then would you have the money to petition to get on the ballot as a Republican? You wouldn’t.

    Hence, since the entire justification for your campaign and your ability to obtain 50,000 votes was that you would get 5-7% of the Republican Primary Vote and carry over some of those supporters to the LP line, it was obvious to me that you were lying to the LPNY just to get their nomination even though your getting our gubernatorial nomination condemned us to 4 more years without ballot access.

    That is and has always been my position.

  16. Sam Sloan Sam Sloan June 7, 2010

    Warren Redlich wrote above:

    “I might then be able to spend the $5K for that on the LPNY petitioning instead. Stevens will probably complain about that too.”.”

    The background is that both I and Carl Person promised to donate $5,000 each to the campaign if we received the nomination.

    I did not receive the nomination but Carl Person did.

    However, last night the NYLP voted to suspend the membership of Tom Stevens. Since Carl Person is the protege of Tom Stevens who brought him into the party, I doubt that Carl Person will be willing to put up the $5,000 with his mentor kicked out of the party.

    Warren Redlich has stated that he is not willing to donate even one dime of his own money to his campaign, because his wife will not allow it.

    So, where will the $5,000 come from? It appears that the Redlich “campaign” has no money and has even dropped his plans to petition for a Republican Party primary.

  17. paulie paulie June 7, 2010

    However, last night the NYLP voted to suspend the membership of Tom Stevens.

    What was the charge?

  18. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    Jesus Christ on whole wheat toast. Is LPNY ever going to stop chasing Republican cross-nomination moonbeams?

    Davis would almost certainly have put LPNY over the 50,000 ballot access retention line and then some.

    I’ll be surprised if Redlich breaks 25,000 votes — if he even gets on the ballot.

  19. paulie paulie June 7, 2010

    I could be wrong, but I think he’ll at the very least get on the ballot.

    National is in pretty good shape right now and will probably shoot a chunk up that way.

    I don’t know how much they will be able to raise locally.

  20. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    Paulie,

    LNC support for ballot access is a discretionary activity.

    Why should/would the LNC want to reward LPNY for

    – choosing the candidate who is less likely to make such an investment pay off; and

    – choosing the candidate whose nomination constituted an endorsement in violation of the national bylaws as they relate to affiliate parties (he is a candidate of another party)?

  21. paulie paulie June 7, 2010

    Tom,

    New York is a major state, the LNC has the money, the new commitee has full ballot access as a goal, and it appears that Redlich will not be a Republican candidate – not that I think they would really care if he does run for the Republican nomination, but it looks like he won’t.

    So my prediction is that they will get national support. We’ll see if I turn out to be correct.

  22. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    Paulie,

    Oh, I’m not gainsaying your prediction. The LNC can almost always be trusted to throw good money after bad.

  23. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    And for the record, I favor modifying the national bylaws to allow for fusion candidacies.

    What I don’t favor is keeping the provision that disallows them, and ignoring violations of that provision. Either enforce the provision or dump it, preferably the latter.

  24. Robert Capozzi Robert Capozzi June 7, 2010

    Careful here, folks. Dr. Stevens is a JD with a lot of time on his hands and has a reputation for both litigiousness and confrontationalism.

  25. Brian Holtz Brian Holtz June 7, 2010

    Yes, get rid of the Bylaws provision that “No affiliate party shall endorse any candidate who is a member of another party for public office in any partisan election.”

  26. George Phillies George Phillies June 7, 2010

    @19

    Having attended the convention, it appeared to me that the difficulty that Davis faced was that she represented the other moonshadow, namely getting the magic 50,000 votes by nominating a celebrity candidate. That approach has also been tried. It failed.

    Given that the ‘free up resources’ people lost at NatCon, it is not obvious that the LNC actually has the resources needed to sustain a campaign that will generate the needed 50,000 votes, ignoring the possibility that campaign finance laws block or restrict the needed spending.

    George

  27. Trent Hill Trent Hill June 7, 2010

    I suspect Redlich will get on the ballot, with help from the LNC. This is an important state and their aim is full ballot access–they could conduct a fundraiser in NY specifically for this. The regional rep should make it a priority.

    As for retaining ballot access–it certainly COULD happen, but I’m not sure I expect it to, especially with both Paladino and Davis on the ballot too as the nominees of the Tea Party and Free Libertarian Party. The NYLP’s aim should be to shoot for the moon…but failing success, they should hope that Davis or Paladino get over 50k votes. They can then take over one of those parties.

  28. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    George,

    I agree that a “celebrity candidate” is not necessarily the key to success.

    On the other hand:

    1) Davis is not just any celebrity candidate. Her “celebrity” is specific to New York politics;

    2) Usually, the case for a “celebrity candidate” is that he or she will put the party into real contention, or at least grab some significant share of the vote. The “magic number” in this election comes to about 1.2% of the votes cast in the 2006 gubernatorial election, and the LP’s candidate in that race, John Clifton, managed almost 1/3 of that. It doesn’t seem to be a stretch to assume that Davis’s name recognition would be enough to triple or quadruple Clifton’s vote total; and

    3) We now enter a vague area in which I’m not that familiar with New York election law, but my understanding is that the LP nominee has to get those 50,000 votes on the Libertarian line. Redlich’s announced plan from the first was to have two ballot lines, LP and GOP; Davis’s was to run only on the LP line. Why go into action with the intention of “leaking votes” to another ballot line?

  29. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp June 7, 2010

    Trent,

    You write:

    “They can then take over one of those parties.”

    I doubt it. The more likely outcome, if Davis polls more than 50k on the Free Libertarian line and Redlich doesn’t poll more than 50k on the LP line, is that the Free Libertarian Party will apply to the LNC to replace LPNY as the LP’s New York affiliate, citing the nomination of Redlich as cause for disaffiliation of LPNY.

  30. Trent Hill Trent Hill June 8, 2010

    But it results in the same thing, doesnt it? All the libertarian activists can just re-register, attend the FLP’s convention and take it over. Pretty simple. Davis may be more popular, but I doubt she can bring out more voting delegates two years from now. Hell, she might abandon the party altogether.

  31. Eric Sundwall Eric Sundwall June 22, 2010

    Recognizing I’m a few weeks late to the last bit of comments here, I’ll still leave some thoughts for future generations to consider.

    Tom and Sam are spoiled sports, who lost. They’ll consume themselves about their own particular idiocies until their aging tickers stop. I pity them more then I can honestly speak of hate or even minor feelings of disdain or contempt.

    We did get a lot of attention based on the GOP feint. The goal was always a strong LPNY nomination and all these wasted thoughts about bylaws violations and logistical impossibilities, still doesn’t take away the considerable media already achieved.

    Putting aside Mr. Knapp’s altogether wrong assessment of the GOP redux, Ms. Davis offers little succor in terms of the celebrity myth. Other than being a figment of Roger Stone’s imagination, the candidacy is doing little and has no perceivable base or hope. No crystal meatball can be shaken enough to prove otherwise until November, if they survive a challenge.

    The metrics for the Redlich campaign;

    1. Media coverage – we’re getting it

    2. Campaign contributes 5K to LPNY petitioning.

    3. March Sienna poll indicates 3-4% in the general, translation = 140-180K votes

    4. Support beyond the LP, Ron Paul and other groups are seeing Paladino for who he is and already balking at supporting he Hillary/Schumer contributor

    5. The LNC authorized 25K last night to the general effort. Thanks to Bill Redpath, Jim Lark, Mary Ruwart and Mark Hinkle for their votes of support.

    The LPNY effort in 2010 is better organized and thought out than 2006. At this stage four years ago the leadership was stumbling over the reality that Weld wasn’t going to show up and that Silberger didn’t really want it. Warren and I have been pushing since January and have built up some level of support and effort.

    Anybody can submit 15K signatures in the gubernatorial effort in NY. Whatever the result in November, the effort for the LP in NY will be problematic, even if 50K votes are attained. When NYS election takes over the party, it’s entire composition and character could change.
    A powerful executive committee will be required to maintain the principles and the party.

    I am somewhat envious of the LP’rs with ballot access in their own states. For what little time I’ve been involved the last five years it has been nothing but frustration and heartache. Some of us will maintain a vigilance, but there is little hope among the consistently faithful.

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