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Former Greens founding new political party in Ireland

In a country where the Green Party has had much electoral success, which has led to it being perceived as abandoning its principals in a coalition government, a group of disenchanted Greens is starting a party called “A New Vision” that will “focus on issues such as political transparency, environmental issues and social justice.”  Read the full story here.

Former Green Party MEP Patricia McKenna and other former Green Party councillors attended the meeting and will play a key part in the party.

Former Green Party councillor Pat Kavanagh likened the party to a “federation” and called on members of the public and organizations to join the party.

“It is a federation with a political structure with a view to fielding candidates in the next local and general elections,” she said.

There will be no leader of the party but elected spokespeople will be elected by it’s members.

Kavanagh told the press that An Fis Nua was “based on the same principles” as the Green Party.

An Fis Nua believes that change is need across the political spectrum and that “a lot of people were not happy with the party (Green Party) in Government”.


  1. Michael Cavlan RN Michael Cavlan RN June 28, 2010


    It is spreading…….

    Go Raibh Maith Agat (Thank You) for this story.

  2. Green Party Conservative Green Party Conservative June 28, 2010



    This is a stupid move by former Irish Greens.

    The Greens with real courage, and sense remain in the Green Party and in the government trying to solve the problems.

    The Green Party in Ireland is in power. They have done a spectacular job under the most difficult economic circumstances.

    The people who have run from Green Party are silly. You can not run a real political party with out elected leadership. As Joschka Fischer the Green Party leader and former Vice Chancellor in Germany put it…” defies human nature..”

  3. Ross Levin Ross Levin Post author | June 28, 2010

    Michael, the difference between Ireland and Minnesota seems to be that there are actually more than half a dozen Greens in government in Ireland and there are elected Greens doing this in Ireland.

  4. Scott West Scott West June 29, 2010

    There is nothing n the Irish blogosphere yet on the new party, but I’ll be watching these two local and lefty blogs for their analysis:
    Judging by Patricia McKenna’s involvement, this would seem to be an anti-Lisbon Treaty, anti-Fianna Fial group. Recent polls have have suggested that the Socialist Party would have success getting into the Dial from Dublin. This party might complicate that. Or it might just split the Dublin Green vote, which is liberal progressive, and very different from the working class vote.

  5. Another Green Party Conservative Another Green Party Conservative June 29, 2010

    Yeah, Kavlan’s a moron. His strategy is even more insane than Milnes’s strategy.

  6. Chris Cole Chris Cole June 29, 2010

    The proper spelling is “principles,” unless they are abandoning school officials.

  7. Deran Deran June 29, 2010

    The old GPs have been splitting for some years. As the accomodationists seek a seat at the table in exchange for acquiescence to neo-liberal economics and militarism, the Green Left has sought alliance with other independent forces on the Left in their respective countries. Yjese newer formations are the way forward, not the accomodationism of the Cobbs et al.

  8. Michael Cavlan RN Michael Cavlan RN June 29, 2010

    Deran has nailed it 100%.

    Thi was even covered at forums at he US Social Forum in Detroit that I spoke at last week.

  9. Michael Cavlan RN Michael Cavlan RN June 29, 2010

    Oh and Another Green Party Conservative and Robert Milnes needs to stop arguing with himself.

    Quick Captain, put your PLASma deflectors on-Full strength.

  10. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes June 30, 2010

    Cavlan, why didn’t leftys contribute 35 million to GP in 2008? To Nader?To me?
    Evidently a LOT of leftys supported the Ron Paul counterrevolution. What’s up with that?

  11. Another Green Party Conservative Another Green Party Conservative June 30, 2010

    Kavlan, you got the wrong troll. I’m Catholic Trotskyist, not Robert Milnes.

    Say almost anything about Robert Milnes, but he doesn’t change identities.

  12. Another Green Party Conservative Another Green Party Conservative June 30, 2010

    I’m temporarily allying myself with Robert Milnes. I’m currently hoping to travel to Florida to persuade Charlie Crist to support PLAS.

  13. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes June 30, 2010

    yeah, Cav., I’m not schizo.Neither am I. Maybe bipolar…

  14. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes June 30, 2010

    I DO have a secret identity.
    Ever heard of PLAS MAN?
    No, I didn’t think so.

  15. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes June 30, 2010

    So I am allied with The Last Conservative, Green Party Conservative, Another Green Party Conservative, Catholic Trotskyist & me.

  16. Another Green Party Conservative Another Green Party Conservative June 30, 2010

    That’s right. I am the same person as “The Last Conservative” and “Catholic Trotskyist.” I have also posted as “Concerned Citizen” and some other identities. I will probably begin posting as Catholic Trotskyist again sometime in July when I move to a different part of California.

    Green Party Conservative is an entirely different person. I don’t think he’s a PLAS supporter at all, he’d rather have the Greens ally with conservatives.

  17. Martio Martio August 12, 2010

    Well, speaking as an Irish voter, we could certainly do with a new political party on the scene. In Ireland we don’t have left/right politics as exists in mst other European countries, we have right/right politics – sick of it. It is a left over from the Irish Civil War days of the 1920’s.

    I’d personally consider joining Fis Nua (it’s actually not “An Fis Nua” – that was a typo somewhere along the line) Irish politics, as with almost all European politics, is based on coalition governments, all a party needs to try and implement “some” of its political goals is a small handful of TD’s (that’s MP’s in English) A diverse political spectrum is of course always a good thing. This party could attract current supporters of the Irish Labour Party and current supporters of the the Green Party….not to mention those who might register a protest vote and then those who are currently unaffilaited but feel a new party is needed. Time will tell. I think it’s a good move.

  18. Michael McGrath Michael McGrath December 6, 2010

    Fis Nua is not nearly radical enough . I am sorry to say that I find its proposed policies as wishy washy as the leftists usually spout .
    Look , we have to throw Anglo-Irish Bank over the nearest cliff, we have to allow the banks to default on their bank debt with no more guarantees.

    – and despite Leftist cries of ‘ racist’ we simply cannot afford to keep on paying two billions a year to Welfare Tourists , they should be allowed in if they have a job or enough money to support themselves just like as in the USA , in emergeny afforded hostel accommodation , the fare home if they want it .
    Any new party simply has to live in the real world , otherwise they are wasting our time , and their own .

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