UPDATE: FL Libertarian Party Chairman Surrenders Driver’s License in Real ID Protest, Notifies Police

From an email sent to IPR by the Libertarian Party of Florida

VIDEO UPDATE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOTOenwxsQI


Fla. Libertarian Party Chairman to Surrender Driver’s License in Real ID Protest

CLEARWATER – Libertarian Party of Florida Chairman Adrian Wyllie will surrender his driver’s license in protest of Florida’s implementation of the Real ID Act at noon on Tuesday, May 17 at the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles office at 29399 Hwy 19 North in Clearwater (map). He has invited the public to witness the protest, and urges others to do the same.

Under the Real ID Act, state law requires that all applicants for a driver’s license or identification card submit an array of personal information, including an original birth certificate, social security card, marriage license(s), utility bills, and other documents. These documents are then scanned into an interstate database managed by the Department of Homeland security.

In addition to the new documentation requirements, Florida now requires that all driver’s license and state ID card applicants be subjected to a “digital facial image capture” that is compatible with facial recognition software. Wyllie believes that all of these intrusive requirements are a violation of the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, and his ultimate goal is to challenge Real ID in court. Wyllie has been outspoken on Real ID, as well as RFID and facial recognition use with drivers’ licenses on his syndicated AM radio show, Liberty Underground.

“After surrendering my driver’s license, I will immediately contact the Pinellas County Sheriff’s Office to advise them that I am now traveling in violation of Florida statute 322.03, paragraph 1,” said Wyllie.

It is his intention to attempt to renew his driver’s license without being subjected to the new, unconstitutional requirements under Real ID Act of 2005.

Should the DHSMV not allow him to renew his driver’s license under these conditions, he plans to surrender his driver’s license to them. However, he says that he will continue to drive as an exercise of his common law right, and as a protest to Real ID.

If necessary, Wyllie says he is willing to be arrested for driving without a driver’s license. “I will do so willingly and peacefully to avoid additional charges, such as resisting, obstruction, etc. Martyrdom is not my intention,” said Wyllie. “An arrest or citation under FS 322.03(1) would simply establish standing in court, so that I may challenge the law.”

Wyllie will assert that the DHSMV cannot compel one to produce the required documentation as a precondition of operating a personal vehicle. Nor can they require one to present personal papers or effects, or be subject to a “digital facial image capture” used for the purposes of facial recognition identification. Doing so would force one to waive one’s Fourth Amendment rights.

Since the Real ID Act requires that no person shall be recognized for any official federal government purpose without a Real ID compliant identification card or driver’s license, it places one in the position of having to waive their Fourth Amendment rights in order to be considered a recognized U.S. citizen.

8 thoughts on “UPDATE: FL Libertarian Party Chairman Surrenders Driver’s License in Real ID Protest, Notifies Police

  1. Eric Dondero

    The provisions for giving the dept. a social security card, marriage license or utility bill are ridiculous because they can all be faked. But the birth certificate is hard to fake, (unless you’re Obama and you have a shitload of lawyers and an army of document fraudsters at your disposal.)

    Showing a birth certificate seems reasonable, and would serve to prevent any illegal aliens from receiving licenses. Florida has had a big problem with illegal aliens from the Middle East, many who have turned out to be terrorists or terrorist-sympathizers.

    Let’s remember Muhammead Attah and one other 9/11 terrorist were living in South Florida for a while, and both had Florida drivers licenses.

    Do we really want to give the Muhammed Attahs of the world official government i.d.s because we’re too “sensitive,” to the loud objections of terrorist-supporting groups like CAIR and the ACLU?

  2. Thomas L. Knapp

    “Showing a birth certificate seems reasonable, and would serve to prevent any illegal aliens from receiving licenses.”

    The advertised purpose of drivers’ licenses at their introduction was to ensure that only competent drivers who had passed a test proving that competence were allowed on the road.

    They were not intended to be used as “identification,” nor was citizenship a consideration.

    Indeed, it is entirely possible at this point to introduce de facto anonymous drivers’ licenses which would fulfill their intended function.

    A major side effect of REAL ID, etc., is to make the roads less safe.

    People are GOING to drive, period. If allowed to, most of them will study for and take the competency test for a license, probably making themselves better drivers in the process.

    If not allowed to do so, they’ll just drive anyway.

    So the question to ask yourself is how important the most important person in your world — your wife, your child, yourself, whatever — is.

    Is he or she important enough that you’re willing to give up your control complex? Or is he or she so un-important to you that you’d rather see him or her die in an avoidable road accident because you have your panties in a wad about “illegal aliens”* than give that control complex up?

    * There’s no such thing as an illegal alien, since the Constitution gives Congress no power whatsoever to regulate immigration; nor should citizenship be a consideration when it comes to issuing drivers’ licenses.

  3. Michael H. Wilson

    Drivers licenses should come from your insurance company along with your license plates. The hell with an incompetent government giving them out.

    Years ago I worked in a bar at lunch and the guys from the drivers licensing center who gave the test would come in for lunch, knock back a few, as I recall, and then go back to work. ‘Course this is an old memory so maybe it is like good wine, better with age.

  4. Eric Dondero

    Muhammed Attah seemed like a “competent” driver. He didn’t have any infractions in Florida or any other state, as far as I am aware.

    Were you happy about the fact that he got a Florida driver’s license? There are more Muslim terrorists immigrating to Florida every week. Would you like to make sure that they get licenses too? After all, even though they may be terrorists who want to kill Americans, they may be more than competant to drive a vehicle.

  5. Michael H. Wilson

    So what is your point Eric? That government workers don’t make mistakes?

    How about the Timothy McVeighs of this world, or the Irish who wish to oust the Brits from Northern Ireland? Do you have any statistics on the “Muslim terrorists immigrating to Florida every week”? Got facts? How about Muslim terrorist immigrating to So. California, or maybe New Jersey? Got any figures on Cuban terrorist in south Florida, or New Jersey? Remember Alpha 66? How about those monkey wrenchers in the environmental movement?

    If I was you I wouldn’t turn around America has all kinds of people thinking about doing harm to others, or to property and a damn interesting history of that as well.

  6. Thomas L. Knapp


    “Muhammed Attah seemed like a ‘competent’ driver. He didn’t have any infractions in Florida or any other state, as far as I am aware. Were you happy about the fact that he got a Florida driver’s license?”

    I’m neither happy nor unhappy about the fact that he got a Florida driver’s license. It wasn’t a car that he drove into the World Trade Center, was it?

    Maybe if the government spent more effort on legitimate defense activities and less time trying to appease fascist pricks like you with Orwellian “identification” schemes and military misadventures abroad, he’d still be stuck on the freeway Cairo instead of tattooed on your chest while you dance on the graves of the 9/11 dead.

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