Roger Stone Comments on Libertarian Party of Florida Convention

The following, written by Roger Stone, was posted on the Libertarian Party of Florida Facebook group today. It was in responce to Alexander Snitker’s article, re-published on IPR: https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/05/alexander-snitker-its-a-matter-of-perspective-mr-stone/). Roger Stone is a former high-level GOP operative who joined the LP in 2012. He considered seeking the party’s nomination for Florida governor in 2014 but after months of speculation announced he wouldn’t do so at the LPF convention, held May 24-26th, 2013 in Naples. 

 

“Our inclusion of people must not turn us from our principles and the newest “celebrity” to turn to our party will have to understand that part of our party. We do not accept “politics as usual.” We hold ourselves to a highly principled standard and are not impressed with a person’s status”………….Alexander Snitker

I can understand his frustration. I got more press coverage NOT running for Governor than he got RUNNING for US Senate , a race in which he got a meager 24,000 votes out of nearly 5 million cast. Celebrity has it uses. If you aren’t impressed with someone’s status perhops you can respect experience; have you ever elelcted anybody to anything? No ? Than how would you know how to? Trial and error?

The Libertarian Party of Florida would be wise to nominate a candidate who the press has some respect for and take seriously based on skill and experience or a candidate with substantial personal resources, enough to buy media to compensate for the press black-out of our candidate ( which we saw graphically in Gov. Gary Johnson’s campaign.)

If you can’t get covered in the media your campaign does not exist. Although poll show broad support for libertarian principles most Florida voters don’t know our party exists. Waving yard-signs and shaking hands will not elect anyone in a state this large. Remember that 2010 Senate race ?

“The money for campaigning and running a party is an issue that the new executive committee is ready to address”….Alexander Snitker. How ? Having a bakesale ? We need $5 M.

In a state the size of Florida, with some of the most expensive media markets in the nation a great platform, hard work and many volunteers will get you nowhere. Money is required.No state-wide campaign in Florida can score without mass-based electronic media.

I also recommend a platform that isn’t so esoteric. Medical Marijuana and Gay Marriage Equality yes, currency reform not so much.

I elected not to attend the actual convention session because I decline to get involved in internecine warfare and ALL of the candidates running for Party office were acceptable to me. I will work with all of them.

I applaud the hard work already done by all concerned to build the party. My convention remarks were critical of no one within the party. I favor running candidates at ALL levels.

I an grateful for the many Libertarians who urged me to run and offered their support. I came to the realistic view that I would not be the strongest candidate the party could nominate for reasons I outlined in my statement.

20 thoughts on “Roger Stone Comments on Libertarian Party of Florida Convention

  1. Joe Wendt

    Maybe Roger Stone should’ve ran for Chair, at least he’s realistic.

  2. Adrian Wyllie

    I agree with Roger Stone that we’re going to need at least a few million dollars to mount a serious challenge to the political establishment in Florida.

    That’s why I’d like to publicly invite Roger to join my campaign team as the Fundraising Director. Roger, with you deep political connections and decades of experience, I can think of no one better suited for the job.

    I’ve got the right message and delivery. By raising funds for the campaign, you can make sure that Floridians hear our message. You can provide us with the tools to elevate the Libertarian Party of Florida from minor third party to major political player.

    What do you say? Are you up to the challenge?

    Join my team now, and you will silence all those critics who are wondering whether you are actually a “former” GOP operative.

  3. Richard Winger

    Adrian, is there any chance the party can recruit a full slate of statewide candidates, as Roger Stone suggested in his first message? The party would look more serious if it became the first third party in Florida in at least 100 years to have nominees for all 4 statewide state races in 2014.

  4. Austin Cassidy

    Richard,

    A fantastic point. I’ve been banging the full slate drum for a couple of months, but so far no one has publicly taken the bait to step forward and run.

    Austin

  5. Austin Cassidy

    If Roger Stone somehow convinces Tom Golisano to run in Florida, obviously that changes everything.

    But I don’t think I’ll hold my breath just yet.

  6. Joe Wendt

    Why would Roger Stone join Adrian’s campaign, when one of Adrian’s operatives have criticized him? What a jack off

  7. Eric Sundwall

    Golisano spent about 60 million in one of his NY gubernatorial campaigns and got about 14% of the vote.

    Even with 5 million in Florida ( 90% of which would go to slick advisors, I’m sure) the electoral impact would still be minimal.

    Don’t be bullied or fooled by Mr. Stone. It’s not worth all the huffing and puffing.

  8. Adrian Wyllie

    @Richard Winger 3

    We’re working on it. I’ve been speaking to enthusiastic crowds ranging from 15 to 300 people all across the state, and I’m always attempting recruit candidates everywhere I go. I’m working on a couple of potential candidates for attorney general right now, but nothing I can say publicly.

  9. Andy

    “Krzysztof Lesiak // May 28, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    What do you need to receive percentage wise in the race to qualify the LPF for full ballot access in the future? 3% maybe?”

    I’m pretty sure that the Libertarian Party of Florida already has full ballot access. It is easy to get party status in Florida, because all you have to do is be organized as a political party. The law may have changed recently, but as far as I know, the LP of Florida is not at risk of losing party status.

  10. Andy

    I’m pretty sure that in Florida the state wide candidates do not have petition for ballot access if they are part of a party that has party status, but there are petitions to place candidates on the ballot for district or local offices, however, these candidates can pay a filing fee instead of petitioning. Some chose to petition their way on the ballot, while others chose to pay the filing fee.

  11. Thomas L. Knapp

    JW @ 6,

    “Why would Roger Stone join Adrian’s campaign, when one of Adrian’s operatives have criticized him?”

    People join campaigns whose operatives have criticized them all the time.

  12. paulie

    I’m pretty sure that in Florida the state wide candidates do not have petition for ballot access if they are part of a party that has party status,

    According to information that has been posted here in the last few days they do have to either petition or pay a fee. That includes candidates for governor but not president.

  13. Austin Cassidy

    There are two ways to qualify for the ballot in Florida… paying a fee or collecting petitions.

    In statewide races, the fees run $5,000-$10,000 depending on the office and if you’re running as a partisan candidate or without a party.

    Petitioning onto the ballot for statewide offices would require collecting well over 100,000 signatures. Essentially an impossible task for a minor party to accomplish. And the costs involved would be far higher than by simply paying the qualifying fees.

  14. paulie

    In statewide races, the fees run $5,000-$10,000 depending on the office and if you’re running as a partisan candidate or without a party.

    Do these apply to Democrats and Republicans also?

  15. LPF Fails Again

    @Yes, you pay the same fee running as a Libertarian, Democrat, Republican, Green, Socialist, etc.

    However, in Florida all partisan candidates are charged a “Party Assessment Fee.” It is essentially a tax candidates must pay to the state political parties in order to run.

    The filing fee to run NPA is usually 20-25% less expensive because there is no party assessment fee.

    The Florida Division of Elections has previously notified the LPF it could submit a waiver and Libertarian candidates would not be charged the assessment fee. The current administration has failed to do so.

  16. Mike Kane

    @LPF Fails Again.

    I believe the delegation voted to fix some of these concerns at the convention this weekend. However, please email me (in confidence) any information on this. I’m a strong believer that all filing fees should be refunded to candidates. mkane990@gmail.com

    Thanks,

    Mike

  17. Mike Kane

    @LPF Fails Again.

    I believe the delegation voted to fix some of these concerns at the convention this weekend. However, please email me (in confidence) any information on this. I’m a strong believer that all filing fees should be refunded to candidates. mkane990@gmail.com

    Thanks,

    Mike

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