Kelly Gneiting: Voting R or D is Voting for a Sodom and Gomorrah Society

From Kelly Gneiting at the Independent American Party website:

“This Supreme Court has made American the new Sodom and Gomorrah,” said Pastor John Hagee during his live broadcast on June 30th, 2015. “God will have to judge America or He’s going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.”

Joy is the destiny we all seek into the future—and the perpetuation of our children and our children’s children into a land of freedom and promise is every true Americans goal, duty, and passion!

Yet deception abounds.

Today, the approval rating of Congress stands at a dismally low 19% (see, and is virtually identical whether Republican or Democrat. 60% of Americans are ready to fire all of Congress as one entire bloc (see

How did this approval rating compare to the era of our Founding Fathers, who gave birth to America’s legacy of freedom? The comparison is drastically different!

After just two years as a nation, George Washington was able to write, “The United States enjoy a scene of prosperity and tranquility under the new government that could hardly have been hoped for… Tranquility reigns among the people with that disposition towards the general government which is likely to preserve it… Our public credit stands on that high ground which three years ago it would have been considered as a species of madness to have foretold.” (The Writings of George Washington, Vol. 31: 316-317, 318-319)

But we’re in year 2015, and the truth is there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn’t there? Taking a line from the movie V for Vendetta, “Cruelty and injustice… intolerance and oppression [reign]. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have sensors and systems of surveillance, coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others… But again, truth be told, if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.”

As clear and concise as English words can explain, the deception is this: Americans do not have the ability to separate and organize their priority list of principles. Hence, electability of a candidate is of higher importance to Americans than the principles espoused by that candidate!

Today’s voting Americans aren’t stupid—most clearly know the characteristics of a candidate needed to restore and preserve original America (i.e. in the tradition of our Founding Fathers), they just simply believe that this time—this election cycle—things will be different; and this despite decades of government’s (both R and D) support of encroaching tyranny, foreign wars, collective theft, baby murder, socialism, and a degraded moral society. In short, they still believe that the exception is the rule, and that this election cycle will make it all better.

Consider a most drastic example—the Republican’s position on abortion. Forget what their platform says, forget what individual Republicans have verbally said. What are the fruits of the Republican Party when it comes to abortion (after all, by their fruits ye shall know them)?

From IAP candidate (2008), Chuck Baldwin:

“Consider that the “pro-life” Republican Party controlled the entire federal government from the election of 2000 to the election of 2006: six long years of GOP domination of both houses of Congress, the White House, and the US Supreme Court. And in all of that time, not one single unborn baby’s life was saved. Not one!”

A previous mentor at a job I had forecasting economic effects truly hit the nail on the head when he said: “There are only two tools one can use to accurately predict future results—art, and science.”

Art as a tool can be considered the “gut instinct” of a knowledgeable and wise person. Science introduces ample variables and formulas based on logic. But both tools use the PAST to predict FUTURE results.

Americans have elected universally Republicans and Democrats for a dozen decades, yet the size of government, taxes, usurpations, violations of basic rights, and ignoring the Constitution has drastically increased. Is there a correlation?

Holy writ tells us, “Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it…” (Psalms 127) The question is, are Republicans and Democrats, AND those who vote for Republicans and Democrats laboring in vain?

I want my labor to benefit my children and my children’s children. The latest ruling by the Supreme Court, allowing marriage rights for gay and lesbian couples, is a testament to our Sodom and Gomorrah-like society.

One-third of all internet traffic is pornography (36% according to other stats, see

When a candidate (Bernie Sanders) announces himself as an open socialist, and people rally to his cry by the tens of thousands, we are living in a Sodom and Gomorrah-like society. If Mr. Sanders were to live in the days of our Founding Fathers, he would have been put to death for his ideals. After all, these were ideals the colonists’ rag-tag, underpaid, dysfunctional, and depleted American soldiers fought, died, and killed to resist—successfully!

Our society’s wickedness is slowly eclipsing that of Sodom and Gomorrah. Using scriptural terms, we are “ripening for destruction,” and the reasons are very clear—just look into the mirror. We continue to elect Republicans and Democrats as if these people—and this next election cycle—is our last grasp of hope, when it is really contributing to our ultimate demise.

From John Quincy Adams: “Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, and you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.”

This principle of preservation should be the highest on the list of all Americans. Discern well—America—for everything is at stake!

20 thoughts on “Kelly Gneiting: Voting R or D is Voting for a Sodom and Gomorrah Society

  1. Jed Ziggler Post author

    So the chairman of a right-wing, anti-gay party, in a right-wing, anti-gay message, quotes a movie (and my personal all-time favorite movie) in which an anarchist protagonist (Gneiting has called anarchists “enemies”) wages war against a right-wing, anti-gay totalitarian government.

  2. langa

    One-third of all internet traffic is pornography…

    So, you see, there is some good news (yes, I know, porn isn’t as good now as it used to be, but still…) 🙂

  3. Starchild

    “Voting R or D is Voting for a Sodom and Gomorrah Society”

    — In a Biblical sense, that’s true. According to the Bible account, residents of the two cities were punished by God for treating strangers (his angels who came among them) poorly.

    And Democrats and Republicans stand for criminalizing immigrants (strangers) to the United States, and treating them poorly.

  4. Jed Ziggler Post author

    “So, you see, there is some good news (yes, I know, porn isn’t as good now as it used to be, but still…)”

    I think it’s terrible. Only 36% of the internet is porn? That number should be way higher! People just aren’t watching enough of it.

  5. Dave Terry

    David (i.e. “beloved of g-d”) • 31 minutes ago

    . “God will have to judge America or He’s going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.”

    An apology, LONG OVERDUE!
    The alleged crimes of Sodom and Gomorrah pale by comparison to the documented crimes of Yewah and those desecrations committed by believers in his name.

    Wayne Hill • 3 days ago
    A vote for any Republican or Democrat on any level is saying you really don’t care that these 2 in 1 parties have MURDERED more human beings or Gods spirit children then any dictator.
    “May God show mercy until they can present one bill in support of the Constitution.”

    The most inglorious enemy of the Constitution is Jehovah, himself!!!
    THAT is why the founding fathers wrote the Constitution and the Bill of Rights in the first place.

    What part of “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
    or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press;” DO YOU NOT

  6. Floyd Whitley

    Mr. Gneiting has an unseemly habit and a long standing history of pretending far more in regards to the IAP than is factual, euphemistically stated.

    Point in case, Mr. Gneiting claims: “From IAP candidate (2008), Chuck Baldwin”.

    The truth is Chuck Baldwin ran as the Constitution Party candidate in 2008 whose running mate was Darrell Castle, also of the Constitution Party. Numerous sources for verification exist, but I will plug Dave Leip’s website simply because I like his website:

    Regardless, what Mr. Gneiting actually meant to say, or rather should have said, was that the IAP endorsed the Constitution Party’s 2008 Baldwin/Castle ticket.

    Speaking correctly or even better, speaking truthfully, just doesn’t carry the same old panache as does outright pretense, at least in some quarters. More’s the pity, sadly.

  7. Cody Quirk

    Compared to the stuff put out by the CP’s Riley Hood and others, this article is pretty mild by comparison.

  8. Cody Quirk

    They could have done it much sooner. In fact they could have even cracked down on his divisive comments that were turning people off to the CP, but they didn’t.

    The new chair even complimented Hood and the “success” he has “given” the CPOW ‘ka-pow!’, which makes it quite obvious where his personal views and beliefs lay.

  9. Dave Terry

    “JZ” >Might just have to post an article about that. Thanks, Mr. Whitley.


  10. Starchild

    “A3PR” — C3PO’s Latino cousin? 😉

    “?Cuando tengo los colores de la bandera gringo, Pastor John Hagee y Kelly Gneiting voy hacer mis amigos!”

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