Constitution Party Convention Open Thread

By request I have started a Constitution Party Convention open thread so people can post about the Convention as it is ongoing. We have at least two commentors who are there live. Please discuss.

138 thoughts on “Constitution Party Convention Open Thread

  1. Antirevolutionary

    Scott Copeland just gave a fiery speech, reminding us that he is a Southern Baptist minister from Texas. He discussed his anti-abortion, pro-personhood position and his anti-war position. I missed the name of the person speaking now as my wife came in to ask me something; he says he is a Jew from New York who ran for Congress from Utah, if that helps anyone else figure it out.

  2. Antirevolutionary

    For those who missed the other thread, Myers and Hoefling gave their presidential candidate speeches before Copeland, both spending a lot of time discussing the possibility that they can get the AIP nomination in California. They both got interrupted a lot with questions from the audience.

  3. Antirevolutionary

    Grundman’s speech is pretty similar to his IPR comments. They’re taking a short break now.

  4. Antirevolutionary

    The stream is not working now; hopefully it will be back up soon since Castle is up next. John Diamond was discussing his training as a theologian

  5. Antirevolutioonary

    Stream is back up and Castle is speaking.
    I have to say that Copeland gave the most exciting speech and it was quite substantive as well. Castle is quite good too and may be best for uniting the party as it is now, but Myers and Hoefling did well too, and their ability to get the AIP nomination does need to be a consideration, since they seem to agree with the CP on most or all issues.

  6. Antirevolutionary

    Stream is back up and Castle is speaking. Castle is speaking well too and may be best for uniting the party as it is now, but Myers and Hoefling’s connections with the AIP in California need to be considered, since they do agree with the CP platform.

  7. Antirevolutionary

    The second sentence of that comment is that Copeland gave by far the most exciting speech and it was among the most substantive as well.

  8. Antirevolutionary

    I’ll be back here tomorrow morning for the vote. There might be some sort of platform vote tonight but I probably won’t be able to listen to that even if its available.

  9. Jeremy Siple

    Who is this Dr. Cummings fellow? Also what time do they start voting for president tomorrow?

  10. Jeff Becker

    The Constitution Party national website lists the candidates, but omitted Mr. Diamond. As I understand it, the complete list of nominees is as follows:

    * J.R. Myers (Alaska)
    * Tom Hoefling (Iowa)
    * Daniel Cummings (Wyoming)
    * Scott Copeland (Texas)
    * Jeremy Friedbaum (Utah)
    * Don Grundman (California)
    * John Diamond (Pennsylvania)
    * Darrell Castle (Tennessee)

    Hoefling is affiliated with the America’s Party (http://www.selfgovernment.us). Friedbaum is affiliated with the Independent American Party (http://www.independentamericanparty.org). Diamond is with Peacemakers’ Outreach (http://peacemakersoutreach.com). The other five men have a history of activism with the national CP and/or their respective state CP affiliates.

    This marks a significant increase in CP presidential candidate interest.activity since the previous two conventions, (2008, 2012) featured only five nominees each. I am hoping that there will be as much contest for the party’s Vice-presidential nominee.

  11. NewFederalist

    Thanks for this thread. Since this site is 95% LP oriented it is nice to see a thread dedicated to the CP. I get a little weary of all the LP nonsense and I am definitely not into the Greens (other than their opposition to all the BS wars we are fighting) so it is really nice to see some space dedicated to the CP. Thanks, Red.

  12. NewFederalist

    CT/AR – Are you moving in the direction of the CP? I never saw you having this much interest in them before. I’m not complaining or anything like that I’m just curious.

  13. Antirevolutionary

    NF, yes I’m moving in the direction of the CP. I’ll write more about why when I have more time, but suffice it to say that I’m pretty embarrassed about my pro-Obama rants from 2008 to 2010, although I still think he has done better than McCain would have.

  14. DJH2036

    How are the nominees for President and Vice President chosen for the CP? I know they had a primary in Idaho, but are all the states like that? Or is it just the delegates at the convention decide?

  15. Andy

    So when is the Constitution Party going to pay the petition circulators that they ripped off in 2012?

    There were promises of payments which never arrived.

  16. Constitutional Craig

    J.R.- the “Will we benefit from the GOP implosion?” should be of interest. The GOP is doing and has been doing so many things that drive the everyday citizen out of its party. I read an article the other day that stated that 23% of voters self-identify as a Republican, so there aren’t many left. They have driven the debt from $5.7T to $19T in 15 years, often working as the majority in Congress, but rarely if ever running Congress over that time as if they were in control of the budget. Speaker Ryan says, “That’s not who we are” in regards to shutting down illegal immigration. Most people do want to shut it down. It’s sad when a lot of the higher-ups in the 3-letter alphabet organizations know that ice-us is going to infiltrate the refugees arriving and we still take in more people. I’m all for helping them (the refugees) much closer to their home country. The GOP has already merged with the D’s in deeds if not words, as seen in many bills passed, with the most notable recent example being the over $1T omnibus bill passed on 12.15.15. That was a bill received with great enthusiasm by Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer. The minority status of RINO’s has actually become the majority in the Republican Party. In other words, instead of naming the 4 or 5 usual RINO’s, now one has to just name the handful who are not.

  17. Constitutional Craig

    Andy, I hope that someday you are paid for the work you have done. Have you done any other petitioning for Constitution Party state affiliates and did get paid on time and in full since 2012?

  18. Andy

    “Moses Austwin
    April 15, 2016 at 23:11
    Angry Anal Andy: So when is the Constitution Party going to pay the petition circulators that they ripped off in 2012?

    Concerned Citizen: Never because you did a shitty job. Now quit asking for money you didn’t earn.”

    OK, we know you are the government troll. No go fuck off and die.

    Also, it can easily be proven that we did not do a shitty job, because the Constitution Party qualified for the ballot.

  19. Andy

    “The Mountain
    April 15, 2016 at 23:23
    The job was not to qualify. You were asked to get a certain number of signatures and you failed. Therfore you did a shitty job. You are obviously a government agent trying to disparage the CP.”

    Oh that is total horseshit. The job is ALWAYS to qualify the petition for the ballot. That is a completely moronic statement to say otherwise.

    We qualified the Constitution Party ticket of Goode / Clymer for the ballot, and with a high rate of validity according to the Alabama Secretary of State’s office.

    Now go fuck off and die you cowardly government paid troll.

  20. Andy

    “Constitutional Craig
    April 15, 2016 at 22:51
    Andy, I hope that someday you are paid for the work you have done. Have you done any other petitioning for Constitution Party state affiliates and did get paid on time and in full since 2012?”

    No.

    I have done Constitution Party petitioning on the following occasions:

    1) Pennsylvania 2004

    2) North Dakota 2006

    3) Arkansas 2007

    4) Alabama 2008

    5) North Dakota 2011-2012

    6) Alabama 2012

    Alabama in 2012 was the only one where I got stiffed out of money.

    The deal to work on the petition in Alabama was struck with a person who regularly works for the Constitution Party National Committee. After the deal was already in play (as in the petition drive had already been going), this person contacted us and said that the Constitution Party’s National Committee was out of money, so this person was going to turn me over to Virgil Goode (who in addition to being the Constitution Party’s candidate for President, was also still a sitting member of the Constitution Party’s National Committee), and that he was going to pay us directly.

    He paid us up until the last payment was due, and then he acted like he was going to pay, but then never did, and then he came up with a bunch of bogus excuses, such as trying to deny the number of signatures THAT WERE REPORTED BY THE ALABAMA SECRETARY OF STATE’S OFFICE.

    The person who regularly works for the Constitution Party’s National Committee told Virgil to pay us, but Virgil ignored this person. Then this person who works for the Constitution Party’s National Committee assured us that we’d get the rest of the money, as did their National Chairman, but they never followed through with this, and then they went out of communication.

    We are not the only ones who got stiffed on Constitution Party petitions in 2012. I heard about petitioners getting stiffed in two other states that year.

    I have heard that the Constitution Party has done a few paid petition drives since 2012. I know they have done Arkansas, Alaska, Hawaii, and I’m pretty sure Iowa and New Jersey.

    It really irritates me that they have paid for petition drives in other places without paying everyone who did not get paid in full in 2012.

  21. Darcy G Richardson

    “Peter Gemma speaking about ‘Will We Benefit from the GOP implosion?'” — J.R. Myers

    I’ve been communicating a little bit with Peter the past couple of days and would love to hear or read his speech. He told me he was writing it. Peter, who once served as Pat Buchanan’s communications director, has long been my favorite CP activist, and — from my perspective — he’s arguably the smartest and most witty party member since the late Bill Shearer…

    Younger IPR readers might be interested in knowing that Peter, a shrewd strategist — one of the best in the business, if we’re really honest about it — nearly gave the state of Maine its second consecutive independent governor in 1978 when, while still in his twenties, he managed the campaign of a little-known Baptist minister, propelling his spectacularly underfunded independent candidate from Bangor into serious contention against his major-party rivals. Among other major media outlets, the New York Times even took notice of Peter’s longshot candidate that autumn.

    Earlier that year, Peter played an instrumental role in Jeffrey Bell’s stunning upset of popular longtime Sen. Clifford Case in New Jersey’s Republican U.S. Senate primary — an unexpected victory that shocked the GOP establishment while making headlines across the country.

    In any case, best of luck later this morning, J.R. — and thanks for the updates that you and our own Red Phillips, in absentia, have provided throughout the convention. They’re deeply appreciated.

  22. Darcy G. Richardson

    By the way, J.R., is Pennsylvania’s Russ Diamond also seeking the party’s presidential nomination?

  23. NewFederalist

    “NF, yes I’m moving in the direction of the CP. I’ll write more about why when I have more time, but suffice it to say that I’m pretty embarrassed about my pro-Obama rants from 2008 to 2010, although I still think he has done better than McCain would have.” – Antirevolutionary (formerly Catholic Trotskyist)

    We are all on a path. The twists and turns it takes can be amazing! I’m happy to see you are back and I look forward to hearing your story.

  24. NewFederalist

    “By the way, J.R., is Pennsylvania’s Russ Diamond also seeking the party’s presidential nomination?” – Darcy G. Richardson

    I believe the person in question is John Diamond not Russ. I don’t know John Diamond but I once voted for Russ on the LP ticket for Congress. That they are both from PA is the confusion, I believe.

  25. Andy

    FYI, Russ Diamond actually got elected to the state legislature in Pennsylvania as a Republican. I believe this happened in 2014.

  26. NewFederalist

    Russ Diamond is still a member of the PA General Assembly. He is one district over from the one I live in. I assume he is seeking re-election since he is just finishing his first term.

  27. Andy

    Is Russ Diamond adhering to libertarian principles even though he was elected as a Republican?

  28. Antirevolutionary

    Stream is back up; someone is playing the piano and singing. Isn’t the voting supposed to start soon?

  29. NewFederalist

    Andy- I just confirmed that Russ Diamond is seeking re-election. In looking at his website and news releases it appears he is being as libertarian as he can and still hope to remain in the General Assembly.

  30. Jeremy Siple

    They’re caucusing now, roll call votes at 9:30. I’m assuming they’re in the Pacific time zone? Or is it mountain?

  31. Antirevolutionary

    Missed the first few, sorry.
    They are going in alphabetical order.
    Castle and Copeland are leading.

  32. Antirevolutionary

    Iowa supports Tom Hoefling. Many other states split votes between Castle and Copeland, but Michigan, Missouri and New Jersey just voted unanimously for Castle and they are big delegations.

  33. Antirevolutionary

    A few votes for Myers, Grundmann and Cummings.
    North Carolina votes for Copeland; Oklahoma votes for Castle.

  34. Antirevolutionary

    Tennessee splits between Castle and Hoefling, even though it’s Castle’s own state if I’m not mistaken!
    Texas splits between Castle and Copeland, but they actually don’t have a lot of delegates.

  35. Antirevolutionary

    All of the candidates who spoke yesterday got some votes.

    Castle is way ahead, but it may well go to a second ballot.

  36. Antirevolutionary

    Myers and Hoefling are definitely out. I really hope they can figure out a way to get the AIP nomination anyway.

  37. Jeremy Siple

    Really disappointed on C-SPAN for not covering the roll call votes. Stream cut out during Alaskas votes and picked back up during California’s. I’m guessing it goes to a second ballot.

  38. Constitutional Craig

    AR, thank you for the updates. Does it look like a second vote will be needed? I did recommend Ranked-Choice for this one…..welcome back, btw, I do remember you posting often under your previous name..

  39. Constitutional Craig

    My computer did not refresh very fast. So my comments were aged……

  40. Losty

    Is there a committee that could possibly fill a vacancy in nomination?

    Say if a candidate with more name recognition that can help with funding talks w/ Mr. castle and the Party Leadership? Say from a Hotel Room in Cleveland?

  41. Antirevolutionary

    Thanks Constitutional Craig. Myers posted a live update but they haven’t officially come back into session yet.
    I’ve come a long way since my previous name.

  42. Antirevolutionary

    NF, no. Someone is playing the piano and singing Ray Charles’s version of America the Beautiful.

  43. Andy

    It is good that Russ Diamond was elected to the state legislature in Pennsylvania as a libertarian Republican, but it is a sad state of affairs that he had to run as a Republican to get elected rather than as a Libertarian.

  44. Antirevolutionary

    Actually, Castle did not even give an acceptance speech. They are back on to normal convention speakers now. Does anyone know what time the VP vote is?

  45. Kevin Hayes

    How did NC go for copeland? We sent no delegates . I am the vice chairman of the NC Constitution Party.

  46. NewFederalist

    “It is good that Russ Diamond was elected to the state legislature in Pennsylvania as a libertarian Republican, but it is a sad state of affairs that he had to run as a Republican to get elected rather than as a Libertarian.” – Andy

    While this is really not the thread to discuss an LP related individual, Russ ran for the seat he now holds as a Libertarian the same year he ran for Congress. He ran for both at the same time. He came in third for General Assembly and he didn’t poll in double digits in terms of percentage. It is what it is.

  47. Catholic Trotskyist

    Apologies Kevin. I must have misheard. It might have been New York or North Dakota. I know it was after New Jersey and before Oklahoma.

  48. Andy

    NewFederalist, I already knew that Russ Diamond had run for the state legislature and for US House as a Libertarian Party candidate, because I gathered petition signatures to get him on the ballot for those races.

    I also gathered petition signatures to place Russ on the ballot as a Ron Paul Delegate.

  49. Losty

    So, Once they nominate the VP…

    In this year which has been overall different than most, especially on the Right,

    Is there a National Committee that can fill a vacancy in Nomination if one were to exist? Say Sometime in June? Say from a conference room in Cleveland?

    With a possible other candidate that May help with future Ballot access, and would be self funded but that could not at this time seek the Nomination…

  50. NewFederalist

    “Darrell Castle should make a fine presidential candidate.” – Andy

    I agree. I wonder if Chuck Baldwin will eventually endorse him? I know Baldwin was for Rand Paul but since he does not appear to be figuring into a brokered GOP convention in any scenario I have read about, perhaps Pastor Baldwin will give his old running mate the “thumbs up”.

  51. Jeremy Siple

    “Apologies Kevin. I must have misheard. It might have been New York or North Dakota. I know it was after New Jersey and before Oklahoma.”

    The only states that sent delegates that are between NJ and OK alphabetically are New Mexico and Ohio.

  52. Antirevolutionary

    The California AIP needs a takeover, by any means necessary. I’m in California, but I am not able to travel all around the state for committee meetings, and it’s probably too late anyway, but I’ll try my best.
    The opportunity for a national united paleoconservative campaign this year is too important to waste.

    While I reserve the right to use the name Antirevolutionary in the future, I will be changing my name soon here on IPR to get a fresh start as an activist without my past baggage as CT holding me down.

  53. Cody Quirk

    I still would like to know if the CP’s national platform was changed in any way?

  54. Cody Quirk

    “The opportunity for a national united paleoconservative campaign this year is too important to waste.”

    It’ll never happen; believe me, I tried, I worked my ass off long ago to make it happen, and even in this election it still will not happen, period.

    For one, I know that besides Castle, Hoefling is still going to keep running and will likely get on the AIP’s ballot line in California. The National IAP is also running its own presidential candidate that will be on the ballot in several states like Hoefling, and there are possibly one or two other constitutionalists running this year with other fringe parties or as independents.

    But of course a Castle/Bradley ticket will still get the lion’s share of the minor-party constitutionalist vote.

  55. Freudian slip

    “Cody Quirk
    April 16, 2016 at 16:00
    It’ll never happen; believe me, I tried, I worked my ass off long ago to make it happen, and even in this election it still will not happen, period.”

    So emailing a few people and failing to wake up your friend when he was supposed to make a speech constitutes “working” your ass off?

  56. Freudian slip

    You need to do some then-than exercises. You routinely get the words mixed up. I’d suggest you educate yourself unless you want to continue not being taken seriously in life. I’d also suggest you stop harping on the “Clarion call” bullshit and attacking the CP’s principled stance on social issues that you don’t seem to comprehend properly. That is unless you like being viewed as an uneducated nitwit. It’s up to you.

  57. Cody Quirk

    Too bad, I’m still going to give the theocratic CP a hard time and piss off butthurt nitwits like you that can’t even defend a dying political party with past baggage. Trump’s candidacy has killed any chance of a right-wing populist resurgence in the world of American minor parties and the only thing that Trolley McJackass can do is bleat and whine about it and attack the critics that can see that corrupt facade of a “constitutionalist” party for what it is.

  58. Freudian slip

    Agent Cody Banks: “I’m still going to give the theocratic CP a hard time and piss off butthurt nitwits like you that can’t even defend a dying political party with past baggage”

    Why should I care? I’m not a party member. I’m not even a conservative. I’m trying to help your sorry ass. Your arguments are so weak because of your lack of a proper education. So please either educate yourself so you don’t sound like such a fucking idiot or shut the hell up.

    Agent Cody Banks again shooting blanks: “Trump’s candidacy has killed any chance of a right-wing populist resurgence in the world of American minor parties ”

    This is an empty statement. What is your reasoning behind it? A celebrity runs for president, stirs up reich wing populist anger, loses, and leaves a large number of reich wing populists looking for a new political home, perhaps in a minor party. And this “kills” reich wing populism in minor parties? This is the kind of incredibly stupid shit coming from you that I am talking about.

  59. Cody Quirk

    Well I’m doing fine on my own, Trolley McJackass. Go run off and beat it somewhere else, because you’re the fucking idiot here that obviously has no life, nor a clue.

  60. Cody Quirk

    “And this “kills” reich wing populism in minor parties? This is the kind of incredibly stupid shit coming from you that I am talking about.”

    No, it’s actually because you don’t have a fucking clue about politics or the typical behavioral trends thereof. So go run along and be a little butthurt bitch somewhere else.

  61. Freudian slip

    Cody Einstein, Ph.D: “it’s actually because you don’t have a fucking clue about politics or the typical behavioral trends thereof. ”

    My apologies professor. Please forgive my lacking of clues about politicking and and how it behaves. How can I argue against such genius observations as:

    “you’re the fucking idiot here that obviously has no life, nor a clue.”

    “I’m doing fine on my own, Trolley McJackass.”

    “go run along and be a little butthurt bitch somewhere else.”

    Still not really clear what I’m “butthurt” about but I’m not the expert here.

  62. Cody Quirk

    “Still not really clear what I’m “butthurt” about but I’m not the expert here.”

    Oh, so you’re THAT clueless. I knew from how quick to angry profanity and vain bleating that you yourself are no genius, but apparently I underestimated your single-digit intelligence.

    Aren’t there bridges that you should be hiding under right now?

  63. NewFederalist

    Thanks to J.R. Myers for keeping IPR readers up to date about the CP National Nominating Convention. I read your comments over at BAN and I was sorry to see your observations and conclusions. Best of luck to you and thanks again for providing content for this thread.

  64. Antirevolutionary

    Yes, thanks JR. It’s great that you had time to post at IPR and BAN even while you were so busy with other things!

  65. Antirevolutionary

    Wow, just looked at the BAN thread. Lots of drama behind the scenes that one would not have been at all aware of by just listening to the stream.

  66. Freudian slip

    Here’s what JR said on BAN:

    “J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 3:51 am said:
    Out of 8 candidates,

    Dr. Cummings was asked by CP leaders to run for POTUS only two weeks ago, by his own words.

    Tom Hoefling was courted by certain party leaders in the past month even though he spent the last 8 years trying to build a rival to the CP, and only joined the Iowa CP two weeks ago by his own admission.

    Mr. Friedbaum was running a strange campaign saying that if he were nominated, he would give his votes to Castle or another potential big name candidate. In other words, act as a place holder.

    Grundmann has alternately claimed to belong to three parties simultaneously, at least until he showed up to the convention. The credentialing of CA was suspect to begin with due to multiple party memberships of both delegates from there. How and when were they elected?

    Diamond also only recently made his campaign known.

    On the other hand, in stark contrast, Scott Copeland has been running for over a year.

    I have been running nearly a year.

    Both of us have had active campaigns with multiple interviews, debates and appearances.

    I believe that shills, like Dr. Cummings were encouraged to enter the race to fragment any opposition to the insiders choice.

    I believe they manipulated the convention in every way they could to prevent a brokered convention. They succeeded.

    They have firmly entrenched virtually the same leadership which has presided over the precipitous decline of the CP.

    This coupled with the voting irregularities for National Chairman and Western Region Chair & Co-Chair lead me to realize the closed club that calls itself the CP.

    They have broken trust with me, and our membership.

    Time to re-evaluate.

    J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 3:55 am said:
    I won’t even delve into the Joe Miller affair. He was contacted by CP leadership only a couple of weeks ago to try to get him into the race. That blew up in their face.

    J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 3:59 am said:
    Phonies won’t get another calorie or penny from me.

    J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 4:05 am said:
    And this devious attempt to capture the independent voters of California will certainly fail. This kind of thinking epitomizes the CP leadership. They seem to enjoy subterfuge and deception. I admit, they do a fair job of whitewashing the sepulchers, but the contents remain the same dead things.

    J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 4:07 am said:
    One would have to be a necrophiliac to stay joined to the national CP.

    J.R.Myers for President on April 17, 2016 at 4:11 am said:
    I CHOOSE LIFE!”

    Someone at BAN by the name of Thor responded:

    “JR Myers: Oh boo hoo. Everyone is corrupt. It’s everybody’s fault the voters rejected me; everybody except for myself of course. Now I’ll take my ball and go back to my ice box where I exert exactly zero influence.”

    #CitizensForABetterVeteransHome

  67. Cody Quirk

    Well Trolley, you missed these comments that came before Thor the troll-

    Floyd Whitley on April 17, 2016 at 7:49 am said:
    My laconic observations:

    (1) The Constitution Party’s nomination process and procedures are filthy…soap is useless on it.
    (2) They are every bit as corrupt as what they criticize (e.g. Republicans in Colorado, Priebus)
    (3) Lofty words about “principle” were omnipresent in the Constitution Party speeches.
    (4) Sadly, James 1:23 comes to mind concerning hypocrisy.
    (5) As does Job 27:8

    In other news, the Idaho delegation walked out…on principle…a commodity in great want and gotten at a very dear price in Salt Lake. CP-Idaho nevertheless paid that cost, in full.

    FWW, CP-Idaho
    Floyd Whitley on April 17, 2016 at 7:55 am said:
    Erratum:

    For textural clarity, Job 27:8 (King James Version)
    – – – –

    And then I responded to Thor the troll’s comment-

    “These men cannot exert any influence in a political party that is run by people whom are entrenched with the power and perpetual authority that make sure no one else can be allowed influence in such, and make sure of it. Therefore to remain in such a party is pointless and futile.

    Sometimes the better option is to strike out on your own and be your own master, or join another political party that will allow you to have influence and an equal say in it’s ranks.”
    – – –

    -looks like you slipped up, Trolley.

  68. NewFederalist

    CitizensForABetterVeteransHome – taken from Freudian slip post above

    Well, haven’t seen that in a while. I believe this was the pet project of Don Lake. He hasn’t posted here in years.

  69. Freudian slip

    It’s a noble cause. Too bad Space Cadet Coty Banks Quirk hurts veterans by making fun of it and its founder.

    #CitizensForABetterVeteransHome

  70. Cody Quirk

    Aren’t you that guy that didn’t understand the insult of me calling you a ‘maroon’?

  71. orthodoxrebel

    Art
    April 15, 2016 at 20:52
    The CP Michigan Affiliate has the party’s top U.S. Senate actual vote recipient in the nation by a wide margin with nearly 40,000 votes in 2014. He is highly decorated Retired U. S. Army paratrooper, Summa cum Laude from the University of Detroit Mercy also has one of his grad school degrees from UDM. He
    Is a life time member of VFW, DAV and the ultra prestigious Jesuit National Honor Sociaty. He is a powerful, inspirational speaker that was rated as the facilities manager of the Baghdad international Airport.
    It seems the CP puts little value on actual votes Recieved under their third party banner and chooses to be more of a social gathering then a political party where votes are the true gold standard. I wish them well in finding a party place holder, however they might be dieing a slow death if they don’t start choosing candidates that have demonstrated they can get real votes in the tens of thousands as a CP candidate. It is not the CP message, it is the messengers that could be more dynamic.

  72. izz

    I would like to propose (2) simple but necessary rules for our country.

    1. Anyone who has never read the Constitution, in whole, can never be allowed to mention, or talk about it.
    2. Anyone wishing to run for Office of President must; a) have complete and full understanding & comprehension of the Constitution & Articles of Confederation, and b) have no clue what making 1 million dollars feels like.

    Having Presidents ignorant to the fact, (3) Offices of President exist, are not qualified to understand the job[s].
    Having People oblivious to what hard times feel like, are not qualified to understand the reality of ours.

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