Oh, and I hear executive sessions have the best stuff…
JimDavidson
December 9, 2008
@393 Kudos to you and your team, including Todd, Michael. Thanks for your hard work and determination. Your stand for openness and transparency should be an example to us all.
I got the angela thing on tape i will try to upload it by friday
Gary Fincher
December 9, 2008
Why is Rachel Hawkridge speaking out on the blogs, yet refused to speak to me about a very timely and serious subject matter that may have, had it been resolved, saved the LP from dropping 5 states’ ballot access?
Something very fishy and suspicious is going on here and I sure hope my attorney out in Massachusetts can get to the bottom of it when he commences litigation.
Gary Fincher
December 9, 2008
What went on sounds like a bunch of HORSE MANURE. Why is there no accountability for misconduct on the part of HQ Staff? We are sorely in need of a “law and order” LNC, I’m afraid to say.
rayehawk
December 8, 2008
Mega props to Team Seebeck – M for all he did, it was amazing; Lid – bread saved me from blood sugar crash this afternoon. Tastes good, too. :o)
To the Gallery: YOU GUYS ROCK! :o) Thanks.
Michael Seebeck
December 8, 2008
I forgot one accolade: Todd Andrew Barnett, for helping me debug the rig and getting the early kinks out.
Michael Seebeck
December 8, 2008
FWIW, I am preparing a post that details the technical side of what I did, so the next one can be even better, and below here I’ll add my thoughts on what happened and some clarifications.
Michael Seebeck
December 8, 2008
Whew! That was a long one! I look back and I ask, “Did I really type all of that?”
First, some proper accolades:
To Paulie, for stealing my tweets with my blessing and putting them here in something resembling order. You are as much responsible for making this breakthrough as I am.
To Knapp, for suggesting Twitter to do this in the first place right after Denver. That started it.
To The Keaton, for blazing the trail that I just made a little wider and smoother this weekend, and for making this needed breakthrough a necessity in some ways. Don’t give up the fight, but take some time off–you need it.
To all the folks on the chatbox at the justin.tv channel for keeping me advised when things went cuckoo: your help and insights on the other end were invaluable to taking concept and improving it, not to mention keeping the feed going as much as it was. And the humor displayed kept us laughing in the slow spots.
Last, to Lidia, for understanding, patience, love, and snark. π
TeamSeebeckM
To ES and out. 1 minute ago from web
roll unanimous yes. 2 minutes ago from web
David resolution to substitute for Ruwart resolution. Wordsmithing. 3 minutes ago from web
“A picture is worth a thousand words. A movie is worth a thousand pictures.” -Me 4 minutes ago from web
Reading resolutions. 7 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
other resolutions: Posse Comatitus resolution. debate. 1 minute ago from web
I remind the LNC of WHY this was being recorded. Crowd went crazy. Dixon thumbs up. 5 minutes ago from web
Power concerned about conservative reputation of LP in blue states. 6 minutes ago from web
3:25tannim123:I tahnked them for being able to tape, told Kraus that teh insurance opinion was for their interest, not ours, reminded that video evidence can be excupltatory as well, and that it provided the open loop between the LNC and the membership that the me…
TeamSeebeckM
Phillies expresses hope for good use of expenses. Positive on candidates. 2 minutes ago from web
Starchild backs Nolan, other comments about lp.org blog comments disabled, poll questions, ideological content 3 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Volunteer confidentiality form Redpath gone. Dixon objects to postponement, Wrights reminds LNC who they work for. postponement passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Not sure what happened on that one. lost track. I need food. 3 minutes ago from web
2:52 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:Starr wanted to amend the PM to “allow” members to record, but that doesn’t require a change since we can do it anyway.
TheOriginalAndy
December 7, 2008
“paulie cannoli // Dec 6, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Seebeck: Sean Haugh expressing hope for unity, working together, etc. less than a minute ago from web”
This was nothing more than Bill Clinton-style weaseling to draw attention away from the fact that Haugh has engaged in criminal conduct and grossly mismanaged ballot access petition drives which contributed to 5 unnecessary ballot access failures and squandered thousands upon thousands of donor’s money with nothing to show for it.
Twitters are not being updated and video is off but apparently they are considering a motion to prevent recordings of future LNC meetings. I will vote against anyone who votes for this and organize opposition.
TheOriginalAndy
December 7, 2008
“Wrights comments that no MA sigs were destroyred.”
Yes, Haugh’s orders to “BURN (quite literally)” the 2,00o high validity ballot access petitions collected by Gary Fincher whether they had been paid for or not was not carried out, but that is only because Carol McMahon and George Phillies of the Massachusetts LP are NOT deranged whackos like Sean Haugh is.
This is like saying that a person who attempts to hire a hitman to carry out a murder is only guilty if the murder takes place. Nonsense.
TeamSeebeckM
Video archiving or meetings (Keaton). Wants discussion with counsel on what’s the best approach re: liability concerns and preservation. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Sullentrop moves cloture. 8-4 passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
What’s left is lunch, a policy manual amendment, recording and archiving meetings, volunteer confideintiality, LP News content, other res’s 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Nolan suggests a run -off on the two 8-vote-getters, winner gets on, loser gets alt. Discussion. half a minute ago from web
those got in, second round to fill last seat moved to be in Charleston (Starr). Wrights objects. Fox wants it done today. 2 minutes ago from web
LibertarianGirl
December 7, 2008
plat com – 9 people got majority vote , adam meyer , sink burris , richard randall 12 vts, brian holtz , alicia mattson 11 vts, steve gordon , jon roland 10 vts , rob power , hauptmann 9 vts
TeamSeebeckM
PlatCom voting reports. 13 each sink-burris and meyer, 12 randall, 11 ea holtz and mattson, 10 ea gordon and rowland, 9 power and hauptman less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Haawkridge nominates Starchild as Bylaws alt, objected. Keaton objects to Carling at table, overruled. vote 8-6 passes. less than 5 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
vote was 10-5. passes. Redpath voted although he was leaving, then he actualyl left. 1 minute ago from web
Karlan moves to appoint Vicki Kirtland to alternate. Passes w/o objection. Karlan moves to appoint M Carling to alternate, objected. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Karlan moves to appoint Vicki Kirtland to alternate. Passes w/o objection. Karlan moves to appoint M Carling to alternate, objected. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
breach of protocol by having M Carling at the table. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Starchild and Karlan discussion about full by laws report time line. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Nolan, Bennett and Nolan return and are speaking to Redpath. half a minute ago from web
Karlan as bylaws chair? 3 minutes ago from web
Redpath is leaving for home, Now Jingo has the control but Redpath appt Carling as parl. 4 minutes ago from web
My lovely running mate is skyping me. 5 minutes ago from web
Admiral Colley really nailed down all sorts of comp dealsHe told hotel that the Ds/Rs steal tax payer money to pay but we pay our way. 5 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Colley says they plan on upgrading the wireless by then. Karlan asks on printing. Phillies asks about suites vs. regular room quota 2 minutes ago from web
Dates: memorial day weekend. Starchild asks about noise questions with parties. I ask about pet policy and train and bus stations. 4 minutes ago from
Antiwar2
St. Louis native Sullentrup is explaining how to get to the site via, bus, train,etc. less than a minute ago from web
Bruce Cohen sends me spanking message. Good to see Bruce is getting his spark back. 1 minute ago from web
Antiwar2
@paulie, I will erase these from twitter before Antiwar goes live at 12:00am eastern. less than 5 seconds ago from web in reply to paulie
@teamseebeckM please list roll call vote on budget. Trying to get details on St.Louis room holds. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
TeamSeebeckM
Dixon moves to accept the contract. Sullentrop seconds. Dixon wants to explain it. Motion passes. 1 minute ago from web
parking cut $21 to $8, room rate $109. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Not 20$ per night but 20 down from original rate. less than a minute ago from web
I only voted for six members. None of my votes were personal, just based on prior platform submissions. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Admiral Colley kicked serious ass w/ regard to the convention. Got room rates knocked down 20$ per night. Assorted discounts on food. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
voting, paper ballot. 2 minutes ago from web
back to PlatCom nominations. none from floor. Dixon moves to suspend to postpone electronic voting demo to next meeting. w/o objection 2 minutes ago
TeamSeebeckM
marketing report is for fundraising. EC to meet before year-end to decide to kaek adjustments to the budget based on Jingo’s report. passed less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
reverse gear, Hawkridge motion was not voted on. Revisited on. BTW, it was a marketing report, not a budget check. Sullentrop seconds less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
On to Platcom nominations. 2 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge also leaks ES on “staff cuts.” Mea cupla for her. But Starr already did it earlier. 2 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge moves to have Jingo do a quick and dirty budget check on details and get back to EC in three weeks. Seconded. 3 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Hawkridge moves to have Jingo do a quick and dirty budget check on details and get back to EC in three weeks. Seconded. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
hawkridge no fox no passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
jingo yes starr yes sull yes colley yes dixon yes keaton no wrights no ruwart no ryan yes hinkle yes burris yes flood yes lark no kalran no less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
@libertariangirl no kidding. fundraising bonanza there. But we need Starchild as the token male… half a minute ago from web in reply to libertariangirl
Budget numbers juggling to balance. 5 minutes ago from web
@antiwar2 Can we get Lib Hotties centerfolds? That’ll boost circulation in a hurry! LOL! π 5 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Starr just leaked that ES was about “staffing changes”. You draw the conclusions. 7 minutes ago from web
Roundrobin to LNC. 8 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Listening carefully as I want to preserve LP News and restore it to its glory. 5 minutes ago from web
Sorry, need to really pay attention to the numbers. 16 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
LPNews quarterly: Jingo hates cutting it back but recommend it from numbers. Worry about issue. Roundrobin to gallery. 3 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
COMMENT: That was damned important, and it was good to see that taken up and dealt with in a positive manner. less than a minute ago from web
yes, hawkridge yes, fox yes, redpath nv. passes. Bennett thanks the LNC. Back to budget. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
jingo yes starr no sull yes colley yes dix yes keatogn yes wrights yes ruwart yes ryan yes hinkle yes buris yes flood yes lark yes karlan half a minute ago from web
Discussion. Ruwart says it creates a fundraising pitch as well. Starr moves to extend 5, objected, fails. Main motion: roll call vote: 1 minute ago from web
Karlan says it should be done to help LPWA regardless of other states. Dixon agrees, sort of. 7 minutes ago from web
Bennett explains that if this goes through it’s a tool to kill minor parties. Correction: SCOTUS, not WA SC. 7 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Bennett discussing LPWA ballot crisis. Please follow this story. This is the new way of eliminating third parties. 6 minutes ago from web
Militants Torch Over 160 Vehicles Bound for Afghanistan: Early this morning, an estimated 300 militants .. http://tinyurl.com/5qe7q9 13 minutes ago from twitterfeed
TeamSeebeckM
Bennett explains it.Strongest point on overturning is trademark infringement and the WA SC said it was a concern not addressed. half a minute ago from web
Lark and Starr questions on FEC and LPWA question. Hawkridge mentions party labels in relation to the issue. 2 minutes ago from web
Dixon moves to re-appropriate $15K from FEC challenges to help LPWA. Considers it urgent. (It is!) Worries of it spreading. 4 minutes ago from web
Dixon moves to suspend to take up LPWA and Top-two ballot suit issue for 10. no objection. 5 minutes ago from web
ES done. Back up and recording. 8 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
I will leave the minutiae to the tale of the tape. This is drier than a good martini, which I could use tight now, but that’s budgets! 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Lark finally speaks up on the serious issue of LP News. More in my post meeting report. I’m being careful because Carling is reading. 7 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Bennett has returned to take notes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Carling is looking for more information to pass during the meeting. 4 minutes ago from web
Listening to Starr and Kraus discussing fund raising is like listening to Rahm Emanuel discuss Middle East peace. 5 minutes ago from web
Jim from LPNV has entered. 6 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Author and Reason Editor Brian Doherty chose not to attend. Something about shaving his head and sticking it in a fire ant hold. less than a minute ago from web
gallery dwindled to Phillies, Power, LibertarianGirl, Kirkland, Mattson, Holtz and Cain. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
The fundraising and membership discussion is making me ill. Will produce report if I am still an active member of this body. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Carling has parked himself next to Seebeck. Carling is not an attorney. Angela Keaton, JD (University of Florida) 1 minute ago from web
Outside meeting with Hawkridge. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Bennet addresses decreasing costs and points out LNC needs to show value to get the donations. less than a minute ago from web
lighter crowd today. Probably a lot of hangovers from last night’s birthday party, which was a good one at Cafe Libertalia. (PLUG!) 3 minutes ago from web
Kraus comments he gets a lot of car calls who saw the bumper stickers. In LA it was probably me since I live in traffic most days. 4 minutes ago from web
Kraus providing some details. 6K new member, 6200 renews Jan-Oct 2008 5 minutes ago from web
Ruwart talking with Starr on donor and membership capture and cost reductions. 7 minutes ago from web
Ruwart checking cost per member–donations in vs. expenses out–CC fees, newsletter etc. 10 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Right now, I need to track membership numbers so I am handing this back over to Seebeck. half a minute ago from web
Starr is talking about board raising money. I’m probably the only person on this board who can raise money so he can forget about it. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Starr is talking about board raising money. I’m probably the only person on this board who can raise money so he can forget about it. less than a minute ago from web
@TeamSeebeckM I am voting to reject the budget. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
TeamSeebeckM
view screen is difficult to see, colors dim and fonts tiny.Ruwart up front to get a better look at the screen and asking questions. less than a minute ago from web
line-by-line breakdown. I won’t produce that here for length constraints. May hit highlights. 5 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Meeting with Haugh & Wrights on the balcony. Haugh spit up laughing threads that insist that Starr was polite when he rejected my advances. half a minute ago from web
Budget begins Membership dues/direct mail. 4 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
projected costs 430K for support and revenue. program expenses 763K, projected surplus 500. less than a minute ago from web
budget begins. projecting 1.193M revenue, 1.4M rasied so far, 1.7M extrapolated, 1.2M budget planned. (est.) 3 minutes ago from web
budget: motion by Sullentrop to reduce time from 90 to 30, seconded, Wrights objected. voice vote: fails. on to budget 7 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
budget: motion by Sullentrop to reduce time from 90 to 30, seconded, Wrights objected. voice vote: fails. on to budget 2 minutes ago from web
ruled out of order, passes without objection. I think I missed one name on that list. 4 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
ruled out of order, passes without objection. I think I missed one name on that list. less than 10 seconds ago from web
starting. first item is to populate the Committee of 7. Jingo lists hawkridge, ruwart, colley, jingo, ryan, sink-burris. Keaton objects half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
recording, people filing in. 13 minutes ago from web
7:11 and the room is empty, only me and Sullentrop in here and the catering crew. Up and going 7:30 at the earliest, or when it starts at 8 about 1 hour ago from web
Jesus H, what a day! Tomorrow, more of it…C-Span for minor parties, brought to you by me. why? Beats me, but WTF, it’s an experiment… about 9 hours ago from web
I apologize to all the white male Christian Alabama fans.
Steve Meier
Steve M
December 6, 2008
Trent,
The Libertarian Part of Florida passed a resolution condemning the LNC action against Angela. The Alabama Libertarian Party did nothing. This was gods way of showing her displeasure.
Trent Hill
December 6, 2008
I cant believe Alabama lost. Oh well–either way its good for LSU and the SEC.
TeamSeebeckM
Florida 31, Alabama 20; USC 28, UCLA 7; OU 10, MU 0, 2nd. less than 20 seconds ago from web
12/5-6/09 set for that meeting. 7/25-26/09 set for that meeting. Locations TBD 3 minutes ago from web
then it was put to majority vote to be heard at body’s indulgence. This is a good thing. 9 minutes ago from web
Starchild points out to me that another precedent has been set here that if a gallery member wants to be heard and there is an objection, 9 minutes ago from web
Move on to next meeting dates. discussion 10 minutes ago from web
Colley and Ruwart say it is. 11 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
then it was put to majority vote to be heard at body’s indulgence. This is a good thing. 3 minutes ago from web
Starchild points out to me that another precedent has been set here that if a gallery member wants to be heard and there is an objection, 3 minutes ago from web
Move on to next meeting dates. discussion 4 minutes ago from web
Colley and Ruwart say it is. 5 minutes ago from web
Colley on ED search. No results for now. Starchild allowed to ask if ideological factor for the ED spot be moved to higher priority 8 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Colley on ED search. No results for now. Starchild allowed to ask if ideological factor for the ED spot be moved to higher priority 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Karlan motions for something, mail ballting, passed unanimously. I think it was on more info on recording mail balloting. less than 20 seconds ago from web
thomaslknapp
Five to remove … it only takes six to defeat the motion when taken up, and I bet at least one voted to keep it on but will vote against it about 9 hours ago from web
@TeamSeebeckM Barr resolution? about 9 hours ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
OK everyone, prepare to start sticking the pins in the Sullentrup doll. 3, 2, 1 … about 9 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Not that you need it about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@antiwar2 Need to get BTP bras going — that way YOU can get some, um, material support about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@Antiwar2 Kick their asses! about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@TeamSeebeckM Cool … time for some ass-kicking! about 10 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@TeamSeebeckL — 5.1, epicentre near Ludlow about 10 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckL
Twittgroup for the Boston Tea Party: http://twittgroups.com/grou… 5:52 PM Dec 4th from web
KN@PPSTER: Multiple freedom parties? — http://tinyurl.com/6glkl3 5:03 PM Dec 4th from TwitterFox
@susanhogarth Try quillpill.com — it’s set up to do what you’re trying to do, including organizing the stories under titles. 4:09 PM Dec 3rd from TwitterFox in reply to susanhogarth
@TeamSeebeckM — I live just outside the city. Guy’s absolutely right, but of course panties are in a bunch over it. 2:26 PM Dec 3rd from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@shanajean Ramos and Compean are slime. They got off light and certainly shouldn’t be pardoned. 1:50 PM Dec 1st from TwitterFox in reply to shanajean
KN@PPSTER — LNC to honor Keaton? http://tinyurl.com/5nl4nf 1:00 PM Nov 25th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER – A recipe for civil disobedience: http://tinyurl.com/6jmfzb 12:47 PM Nov 24th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Ghost Story — http://tinyurl.com/64qrvt 10:56 AM Nov 22nd from TwitterFox
@libertariangirl Twitter-enabled frying pan? That’s KEWL 7:34 AM Nov 22nd from TwitterFox in reply to libertariangirl
KN@PPSTER: Same as the old boss, part 2: Civil liberties — http://tinyurl.com/5qaxg2 12:16 PM Nov 21st from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Same as the old boss, part 1: Foreign policy — http://tinyurl.com/5562n2 10:23 AM Nov 20th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Parting thoughts on the Barr campaign — http://tinyurl.com/5wzhdm 1:06 PM Nov 18th from TwitterFox
homaslknapp
@antiwar2 Did you catch who seconded the suspension resolution? Enemies lists should have documentation of all evil deeds. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@karldickey I doubt it. The clique is using him up with this. They wouldn’t expose themselves to it, sent him in as cannon fodder. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
@TeamSeebeckM Who seconded the suspension resolution? about 3 hours ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@scottbieser If there’s any tying up involved, I suspect Angela’s the one doing the tying. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to ScottBieser
tap, tap … is this thing on? about 3 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Please let Admiral Colley know that Navy is up on Army 24-0 in the third quarter. about 6 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Side note: Go Navy! about 7 hours ago from web
@A_S Cool. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to A_S
@A_S Geez … even I’m not THAT vain. But maybe I should be. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to A_S
Yeah, because saying that Obama only got into law school because he’s black isn’t a negative or anything. about 8 hours ago from web
Root budget rescue: He should give Redpath a freebie to his top picks. Redpath can bet $10k each week until the LP is bigger than Microsoft about 8 hours ago from web
Has Root started offering a discount on Amway starter kits to the board members yet? about 8 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Sounds like a lot of time could have been saved by a three-word report summary (“Folks, we’re screwed”) instead of long version about 8 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@karldickey NP. Of course, I could be wrong. I’m 1500 miles away, after all, so I can’t hear to well either. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
Plus whatever comes in in dues, etc., of course. about 8 hours ago from web
@karldickey No, it’s worse than that. $42k in the red now, $28k in revenue coming in January (if the FEC doesn’t disallow it — bequest) about 8 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
@kipesquire Ditech never STOPPED advertising. But they were acquired by GMAC. Wonder what that did for GM’s bailout-prone bottom line? about 8 hours ago from web in reply to KipEsquire
@antiwar2 Yeah, what Hogarth said. But be more catty: “Mr. Chair, has anyone asked Mr. Barr if his GOP PAC can help with the debt?” about 8 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Better to cut our losses on the Barr campaign — lock it away in the closet like the crazy aunt nobody talks about. about 9 hours ago from web
Perversely, it’s probably better for the LP if the LNC doesn’t get/use Barr’s list — last thing we need is an inflow of Republicans. about 9 hours ago from web
thomaslknapp
@TeamSeebeckM have to go offline. Could you direct msg me if any more skulduggery comes up? about 1 hour ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@karldickey victory of sorts — substitute motion calling for offline discussion instead of suspension. Passed unanimously. about 1 hour ago from web in reply to karldickey
Yay! It would have been better just to defeat the main motion instead of letting these people take it private, but it’s still a victory. about 1 hour ago from web
I remain convinced that Lark is a mensch. I wish he was chair again. about 2 hours ago from web
Sullentrup talking about responsibility is like the Temperance League holding its convention at a bar. about 2 hours ago from web
Perhaps Sullentrup should elaborate by telling the story of the MOLP state chair who trashed his party’s ticket in the state’s largest paper about 2 hours ago from web
@kiddleddee The question is, professional at WHAT? about 2 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to kiddleddee
I seem to recall the LNC going to great lengths to NOT talk about one of its functionaries using the LPHQ credit card to hire, um, escorts. about 2 hours ago from web
Yes, liability protection is an issue. So should the LNC stand there in public and claim that one of its members is a sexual harasser? about 2 hours ago from web
Ah, the LNC culture — by all means screw the membership, but let’s be COLLEGIAL about it. about 2 hours ago from web
Karlan didn’t seem to have a “conflict of interest” when the LNC wanted to endorse a Republican presidential candidate. about 2 hours ago from web
Show’em your BTP thong, Angela! about 2 hours ago from web
Yo, Starr — if you want the 700+ BTPers to be supportive of the LP, perhaps you shouldn’t be using Flood as a beard to attack them. about 2 hours ago from web
@jeremy6d Libertarian National Committee meeting/Vyshinsky show trial gone awry about 2 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to jeremy6d
@karldickey I’ll try to remember to do that. Leaving myself as soon as this is over. about 2 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
Note to self: Add Karlan to enemies list. about 2 hours ago from web
I hope her statement closes with “and by the way … go fuck yourselves.” about 2 hours ago from web
Dyslexic retort: Denali ain’t just a mountain range in Alaska. about 2 hours ago from web
I almost miss the old days. Venality’s at least more dignified than this pity party stuff. about 2 hours ago from web
Will someone PLEASE give Stewart a Valium or something? about 2 hours ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
sub motion by Ruwart on some part of it. Procedure amended. DIxon moves to adopt the goals as written. 2 minutes ago from web
the motion is still under discussion. Keaton thinking an exit and nap. 3 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Holtz is speaking from the gallery. His voice is starting to improve. 17 minutes ago from web
The Nolan is still kicking ass. 23 minutes ago from web
Keaton and Ruwart have caucus in ladies’ room. Barr supporter and I plant to tie on tonight. 23 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Discussion. half a minute ago from web
@Antiwar2 My back is getting rigor mortis! 3 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Dixon moves to adopt goals procedure. seconded. Ruwart asks about metrics on goals. 4 minutes ago from web
6:52tannim123:paulie is blogging them
6:52tannim123:motion to postpone the mission statement passed. it was a sub motion
6:53letlibertyring:The question is
6:53stevemeier:all right we can show leadership in avoidance
6:53letlibertyring:was Angela booted from the board?
6:53paulie_cannoli:Not the chat here
6:53stevemeier:worse they added you
6:53paulie_cannoli:LLR check IPR
6:53stevemeier:thats what you get for leaving the room
6:53paulie_cannoli:Todd you are drafted for LNC
6:53stevemeier:you have all of our deepest sympothies
6:54mdharris:Get your $10,000 per year ready, eh?
6:54stevemeier:apperently it is no longer a requirement that you are a member of the party
6:54paulie_cannoli:It is now a requirement that you not be a member of the party
6:54stevemeier:what was the other requirement
6:54letlibertyring:Who?
6:55stevemeier:ohh yea you have to speak derogatorily about the other members
6:55letlibertyring:What do you mean “they added” me?
6:55stevemeier:and using that crietea your name was at the top of the list
6:55paulie_cannoli:Todd, you are now an at large member of the LNC whether you like it or not
6:55stevemeier:sorry dude we couldn’t stop them
6:56paulie_cannoli:We tried but we were ruled out of order
6:56stevemeier:angela was pissed she doesn’t want the competition
6:57paulie_cannoli:They are appointing a committee to study whether to appoint a committee to censure us for speaking out of turn
6:57letlibertyring:Paulie, bullshit lol
6:57letlibertyring:I’m not a member of the LP
6:57paulie_cannoli:It’s true. Dondero will also be on the LNC with you
6:57letlibertyring:Was Angela booted from the board?
6:57letlibertyring:Funny
6:58stevemeier:now i get itt they want a ballenced board
6:58stevemeier:no they decided to appoint a committee to figure out how to avoid doing anything
7:00georgedonnelly:feed down
7:00letlibertyring:So they didn’t boot her?
7:00paulie_cannoli:No, punted
7:00letlibertyring:Punted?
7:01paulie_cannoli:Committee to study and report to next meeting
7:02tannim123:stream update pls
7:02georgedonnelly:dead
7:02paulie_cannoli:dead
7:02stevemeier:A cleaver way to avoid even having to vote to table the motion
7:02genetrosper:asa doornail
7:03paulie_cannoli:So they can waste yet more time on this next time
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:sorry about that. bandwidth again
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:better?
7:03georgedonnelly:yes
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:thx
7:03paulie_cannoli:And they just punted the mission statement too. Did they actually get anything done yet today?
7:04mdharris:My meetings go a lot differently…
7:04georgedonnelly:if i was on the lnc i would be pissed about spending all this money and time just to punt everhing
7:04mdharris:I sometimes wonder if I don’t run them like a dictator, but stuff does get done efficiently.
7:04paulie_cannoli:Albanian Soviet rules “punt the c….”
7:05stevemeier:tannim thanks for all your effort
7:05paulie_cannoli:+1
7:05 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:I’m trying guys, and I appreciate it.
7:05 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:
7:05stevemeier:hey the appreciation runs all your dirrection
7:06paulie_cannoli:New LNC motto: “When in doubt stay in doubt”
cbennett
December 6, 2008
I won’t be satisfied until Root apologizes for the racist Obama statement. If he truly wants to be a Libertarian, he needs to learn that libertarians ARE NOT or subscribe to racism!
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Next: lark and dixon on party goals, rest of term. half a minute ago from web
motion to postpone passes. 1 minute ago from web
Starchild thinks the SOP is the Mission statement and the members should decide. Wrights moves to table. Seconds, objected. 2 minutes ago from web
Flood: length is concern. Wrights: wants Starchild to speak. Redpath looks to Lark for help. motion to have Starchild speak passes. 3 minutes ago from
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Karlan: moves to delete “can effectively”. Hawkridge seconds. Starr calls question w/o obejction, on Karlan amendment. No objection. Now 2 minutes ago from web
kiddleddee
December 6, 2008
What does Dixon mean by “lowered bar”? Getting more people into the party that would lower the “professional” level?
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Flood: likes idea, but would like explicit language to include running candidates as well. Not an amendment. less than a minute ago from web
Dixon: asks if a lowered bar is a concern. The Nolan says that only running candidates causes loss of potential members and support. 3 minutes ago from web
Lark: opposed, need more specifics, but needs more thrust. Hinkle: broader-based draws more people and more support. Supports motion 4 minutes ago from web
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Ruwart speaks in support. I’d love to mention AB1634 here, but I’m stuck in the peanut gallery. less than a minute ago from web
can effectively support positive policy changes and oppose negative changes by working within the political process.” 2 minutes ago from web
“The Mission of the LP is to move public policy in a libertarian direction by building a network of pro-freedom activists who can 3 minutes ago from web
debate. Starr calls it vague. 4 minutes ago from web
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mission statement. Karlan asks if the issue statement eliminates candidates. Friendly amendment to fix that. Hawkridge moved, Ruwart 2nd. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
The Nolan makes new mission statement. Please let it pass so Hogarth and Liberman stop crawling up everyone’s ass. less than a minute ago from web
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mission statement. Mentions LPCA-SD killing $10B in bonds and taxes over the years. wants to add issues campaigning to the mission less than 20 seconds ago from web
Hawkridge in Mission Statement (The Nolan motion). Hawkridge defers to The Nolan. The Nolan addresses the limitation of the mission 1 minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Salute to Mike Munger and his fab hair. Munger has already volunteered to serve at the bottom of the Keaton/Shinghal ticket. 1 minute ago from web
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ballot qualifications. less than a minute ago from web
background noise down. Redpath suggests expedite to submit written reports without obection. Flood reads LPNC letter about ballot less than a minute ago from web
back A lot of people needed that. 5 minutes ago from web
brb. 12 minutes ago from web
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Shot down in flames. Keaton stays. Dixon and I have one on one to clear the air. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar Radio Andrew Bacevich: Empire Weakens America http://tinyurl.com/5tllgr 4 minutes ago from twitterfeed
Antiwar Radio Jesse Trentadue: Documents Show FBI Sting in OKC Bombing http://tinyurl.com/5v3268 4 minutes ago from twitterfeed
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sub motion: Starr just wants it fixed. Ryan calls question, 2/3 vote. passed. sub motion vote: passed unanimously. sub motion is now less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Ruwart seconds. extend to 15 objected, 5 accepted. Lark apologizes to Keaton to a lack of defending her. Lark wanted to drop it with the less than 20 seconds ago from web
Jingo: wants a resolution to committee offline to discuss it away from the meeting if Keaton agrees to stop the behavior. Called sub motion 2 minutes ago from web
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Jingo: poor judgment, what to do about it? Says the standards are too high, and that Keaton is boxed in from them, and that’s a problem half a minute ago from web
the budget. 1 minute ago from web
Hawkridge brings up Barr’s PAC as example of selective enforcement. Calls the stuff mostly petty, wants to get past this and move on to the 1 minute ago from web
Sullentrop is worried about liability from SH. Denies kissing Wrights was SH. Wrights said that was his point. 2 minutes ago from web
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Sullentrop thinks Keaton doesn’t know the difference between breaching duty and the responsibility of the LNC. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Keaton going off on Starr. Dixon states that some people have stood up to block stuff out of order. less than a minute ago from web
Starr: complains about Keaton blocking Verdin from Platcom b/c was on RLC. Keaton says not so. Back and forth. Smacks down Redpath 2 minutes ago from web
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Keaton to Fox: respect is mutual. Keaton, Moulton, Benedict and other not respected by Starr and such, and rest sat by. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Hawkridge brings up Tom Stevens re. other party support. Time up. Motion to extend 30 by Ryan, objected, 10 approved. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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Fox: some are concerning, some are ridiculous, late issue is a problem. Says that Keaton did bring it on herself by lack of respect. less than 10 seconds ago from web
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Wrights is up, talking about hugs, Sullentrup kissing him (laughter). Says effectively that people need to look in the mirror. half a minute ago from web
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Wrights: claims the entire board is complicit in aiding another party candidate in Ron Paul. Witnessed Hansen apology. less than a minute ago from web
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Sullentrop out of order. Starr tries to address her directly in a condescending way. half a minute ago from web
Starr: BTP part disturbs him and the donor contact. Starr doesn’t know the difference between a facebook page and a political party. 1 minute ago from web
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line on her being the reason no contract. ES was improperly called. less than a minute ago from web
Keaton on ES: within her rights to report stuff on her own situation in ES. References Carling not having a NDA and claiming Cory’s line 1 minute ago
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Keaton apologized to Hansen who didn’t know what she was talking about. Calls Kraus’s involvement improper. less than a minute ago from web
Redpath: fundraising post was libellous. Dxion asks Keaton to address. 2 minutes ago from web
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Colley: disagrees with framing of Keaton’s comments, language, but supports her right to express her opinion. Wants to hear a defense. less than a minute ago from web
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Starr divided the stuff while Flood was speaking, meaning Karlan’s motion was planned. Motion to divide,ayes 6 nay 8, fails. 1 minute ago from web
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Karlan wants to divide to create 11 shots to suspend. less than a minute ago from web
many in the membership. doing her duty, calls the charges an attempt to shut out dissenting voices. Applause. 1 minute ago from web
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Keaton speaking on her own behalf. Looks like a prepared statement, says her rights to receive this, and that her opinions are that of many less than 5 seconds ago from web
Karlan motion to divide into 11 questions. Dixon wants Keaton to be able to respond. less than a minute ago from web
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2 minutes left. Unknown if Keaton will have time to respond. half a minute ago from web
Flood pulls the third-party offended routine on this, which of course is never a legitimate harassment issue. 1 minute ago from web
Flood reads the Ferguson comment. Chuckles in the crowd. 3 minutes ago from web
Flood has lost his place, then found it, then went on to LNC member comments. 4 minutes ago from web
Keaton asks Flood about who’s what. Flood is losing his composure. 5 minutes ago from web
Vader pic up. People are chuckling, 6 minutes ago from web
Flood finished with the donors part, now going into the alleged harassment stuff. 8 minutes ago from web
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Flood finished with the donors part, now going into the alleged harassment stuff. less than a minute ago from web
@Antiwar2 You go, girl! π 3 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
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Holtz is now completely asleep. less than a minute ago from web
Sullentrup is done. 2 minutes ago from web
Kraus needs to go. 3 minutes ago from web
Holtz is falling asleep. If that doesn’t say it all… 4 minutes ago from web
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Talking about the Root stuff now. He’s not in the room. 1 minute ago from web
Keaton just shot down Kraus’s dirty looks. 2 minutes ago from web
@thomaslknapp didn;t catch that, sorry. Male voice 3 minutes ago from web in reply to thomaslknapp
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“It’s either Ms. Keaton or Mrs. Doherty. I’m not your sister!” Keaton to Flood. 2 minutes ago from web
Wrights tells Flood to not speak for him. Keaton wants each one up and discussed openly. 2 minutes ago from web
The first pages are up now, and it’s basically what is viewable at LFV: http://tinyurl.com/5s5962 3 minutes ago from web
Fred Church Ortiz
December 6, 2008
“Poor poor Stewart” will be promptly appended to the end of Flood’s presentation.
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I am very proud of my writings. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Flood begins the witch trial. Frankly, I don’t like being the center of the attention. I don’t have the looks or charisma to merit it. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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OK< here we go! half a minute ago from web
Redpath asking about CA fiscal problem. Haugh comments on CA positively impacting NC? half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Nice pic of Jesse Thomas and Donna Orlando in front of their Cafe Libertaria. Location of birthday party. 1 minute ago from web
@ScottBieser I’m more concerned with what the Rev. R Lee will be so moved to do. The fire of freedom burns. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to ScottBieser
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KT likes the results from Meetups and House parties. less than 5 seconds ago from web
@paulie, all twits will be removed after the meeting since this is the Antiwar2 twitter feed, half a minute ago from web in reply to paulie
KT is actually giving a very well construted report which notes winning campaigns, pics of activists actually doing activism and writers. 1 minute ago from web
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mentions prop 8 work, Ed Clark fundraiser, and getting OC Register columnist and editor Steve Greenhut into the party. half a minute ago from web
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reconvening, do CA report now since Kevin Taka on schedule restrictions. 2 minutes ago from web
Keaton catches Starr trying to mess with the laptop. 34 minutes ago from web
“Actually they need to hold onto the names until the debt is paid and itΓ’β¬β’s a common practice. Many campaigns pay off their debts by renting their lists. IΓ’β¬β’m already getting DNC, Obama and other liberal requests for donations under name I donated to Hillary under because sheΓ’β¬β’s renting her list to pay off her debts.
If they were to turn it over to the Party before the debt is paid, it would devalue the list and make them unable to pay overdue invoices, which hurts vendors and the employees who work for them.”
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ES without objection. Have to stop the feed. Their plan is to adjourn to lunch after they leave ES. Not sure when back, so keep eyes open 1 minute ago from web
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Wrights: motion to enter ES to discuss litigation issues. Seconded by someone (Dixon?). Discussion relating to lunch by Lark. 2 minutes ago from web
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Wrights want so discuss full report. I’m scared. Lee is got the fire of the Freedom Gods in his soul. Someone is goingto hell. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Bill Hall on speaker phone. Legal report but also in his cap as state chair Lp-Mi that two PARTISAN election victories in his great state. 7 minutes ago from web
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hawkbridge yes, motion passes. less than 5 seconds ago from web
J: yes Starr no sull yes coll yes dix yes kea no wri yes ruw yes ryan yes hinkle yes burris yes flood yes lark yes kalran yes fox yes less than 20 seconds ago from web
Just a few days ago, he told Eric Dondero (it was posted on IPR just days ago), that his 520,000 votes is “impossible for the Radicals to spin negatively.”
Implying that he wasn’t a radical.
Now he is? This is standard Root, trying to tell every audience what he thinks they want to here.
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Wrights opposes Starr motion, says it’s not about the numbers, but it is an act of agression (Hawkridge). less than 5 seconds ago from web
Starr moves to postpone after budget and seconded. Move to extend 10, objected, 2/3 vote, passes. less than a minute ago from web
Ruwart moves to get Give and Get names off the web site if they request. Dixon seconds. So does Hawkridge. So does Fox. 2 minutes ago from web
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Kraus continues to violate the norm that EDs do not get involved in factional fights. 3 minutes ago from web
LNC Give or Get program: Ruwart is boycotting as is Keaton. Wants them not to be reported. 4 minutes ago from web
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@Antiwar2 is that for the laptop or the discipline session? LOL! less than 20 seconds ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Ruwart asks why donations are still being posted for Give and Get since she’s boycotting it as “crass”. 1 minute ago from web
Antiwar2
thanks for LP of SB Co for getting me a cord and duct tape. 1 minute ago from web
Haugh’s detailed report continues along with his recommendations for 2010. 2 minutes ago from web
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Starr asks the consequences if we lose. Bennett says LP issues are the ones the OR SC is looking at. 2 minutes ago from web
Bennett discussing the litigation. concern is loss of counsel means loss of briefs filed, and loss of case 3 minutes ago from web
VirtualGalt
December 6, 2008
I continue to be befuddled as to why ballot access is a problem in any states other than OK and WV maybe. Maybe I am just a naive observer, but the requirements don’t seem that onerous, provided the right people are involved and there is some semblance of an organized effort.
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Ruth Bennett is giving facts of life talk w/regard to LPWa situation.Crisis. This is the new way for the R/D Empire party to destroy us. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Peace lover and former talk radio host Zander Collier, 18 minutes ago from
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Haugh mentions worry about top-2 spreading to CA and beyond. OR just voted it down, and CA has it in a pipe in the legislature. half a minute ago from web
Lawsuit updates. WA on top-2: asking LNC for $$ help since LPWA is tapped and been going with it, atty withdrawn as well. 3 minutes ago from web
Steve M
December 6, 2008
Seems to me that any serious candidate for the libertarian presidential nomination should show up with a plan for getting on the ballot. So one problem with Barr tossing his hat in the ring so late is there couldn’t have been much planning. I am presuming that the lpnc was trying to recruit Paul.
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Hinkle asks about a master list of ballot access requirements half a minute ago from web
But it appears to be only in a few states. 4 minutes ago from web
Ruwart asks about effective methods and a way to develop a training regimen to help the effort. Haugh thinks it is already documented 5 minutes ago from web
Starr asks about state-level contributions to the ballot access fights. 6 minutes ago from web
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Dixon echoes Wrights, calls WV and OK bad investments. Haugh points out that having a good state-level candidate helps. less than a minute ago from web
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Wrights points out that cash helps but ballot access is important. Lauds Munger because of the NC ballot access struggle. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Starr advocating for earlier conventions. half a minute ago from web
Jingo asks when is the earliest to have a convention to avoid signature problems? Haugh says the numbers are to small to worry. 1 minute ago from
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Jingo has the gavel for this. details on ballot access. Go to the recording later for details. half a minute ago from web
Apparently the SoS TX disputes the 2% vote total in the statutes. Agrees with Dixon. 4 minutes ago from web
races, and asks about contingency plans for states. Haugh says he has state-by-state analysis to maintain and improve it. 6 minutes ago from web
Dixon on TX ballot access believes every TX state race next cycle contested 3 ways (D/R/L), worries about losing ballot access from races 7 minutes ago
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races, and asks about contingency plans for states. Haugh says he has state-by-state analysis to maintain and improve it. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Dixon on TX ballot access believes every TX state race next cycle contested 3 ways (D/R/L), worries about losing ballot access from races less than a minute ago from web
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Hawkridge brings up Terra Eclipse killing the archives. Wrights wants clarification of terms etc. Redpath calls it an offline topic. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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talking about PA ballot access challenges. calls it “unprecedented”. calls MA substitution case unexpected as well. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Haugh: not sure what he’s referring to, had to restart feed. I think it’s about SD ballot access or party petitioning, not certain. 2 minutes ago from web
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Dixon asks chair to have secretary to record seconds on motions. less than 20 seconds ago from web
burris no, flood no, lark no, karlan no, fox no, hawkridge no, redpath no vote, fails. less than a minute ago from web
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10 fails, 3 fails. Main vote. Jingo: yes Starr: no sull: no Colley no Dixon no Keaton yes wirghts abstain Ruwart no Ryan yes Hinkle no half a minute ago from web
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Jingo asks abotu postponement. Starr complains about time. hawkridge moves to extend 10, objected, Jingo 3, objected. Vote to extend 10 half a minute ago from web
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plenty of evidence that the Root campaign were dismissed. Fact-checking should be done. Extend for 1 failed for Flood to respond. less than a minute ago from web
campaign statements from Barr. Karlan: calls it a wrong chastisement. Keaton: asks Flood for specifics on libel, and that there was plenty 2 minutes ago from web
Flood: says the expenses on office renovations are false, and something else in there is libellous. Tries to deflect Barr campaign 3 minutes ago from web
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Colley: ask Nolan. Starr objects. Ruwart: points out this illustrates no way to resovle disputes, calls for a better way. less than 5 seconds ago from web
LP logo, etc. is the problem. wants a step back. 1 minute ago from web
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move to extend 5 passes w/o objection. Jingo: wants it deferred, thinks that failure to respond to Root by barr, the website lack of LP less than 20 seconds ago from web
Hawkridge moves to extend 15, objected, 10, objected, 5 objected. move to 15 extend fails. Vote on resolution, roll call vote, majority. 1 minute ago from web
Starr asks Redpath if this is a condemnation of Barr, which would require 2/3 to pass. Time up. Redpath says no. 2 minutes ago from web
their promises. Says no on the motion (Dixon concluded, lag) 12 minutes ago from web
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their promises. Says no on the motion (Dixon concluded, lag) 8 minutes ago from web
Starr asks Root if he would vote for it. Root says in long wind, no. less than a minute ago from web
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Dixon: compares Badnarik for Congress campaign, says that if the resolution should have every candidate that ran and didn’t deliver on their less than 20 seconds ago from web
Redpath read email from Verney about campaign that touts the Barr successes by the numbers. 1 minute ago from web
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none being paid. Claims Barr said something different on Colbert. Ruwart says otherwise, ditto Wrights. Go to the tape. less than 5 seconds ago from web
told Barr to not do WV suit. Tries to give credit to Cory for 45 states only. says LNC did not pay petitioners and isn’t aware of none less than a minute ago from web
Redpath asks about Verney strategy of Barr publicity only. Tries to deflect ballot access problems from Cory, calls it false, says he told 2 minutes ago from web
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Ryan moves. Hawkridge seconds. Ryan speaks to the motion, and separates Root from Barr: “2 different campaigns going on” less than a minute ago from web
If what Root said were true, it wouldn’t be “racist.” However, Obama is clearly not “dumb” in a conventional sense. (He’s too dumb to understand the Austrian theory of the business cycle, but not to do well as Harvard). Why would Root pretend that he is? Is it inconceivable to him that there could be a conventionally smart black man?
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short form: disappointed in campaigns, broken promises, bad expenses, no advertising, Snubgate, prior candidate diss on Colbert… half a minute ago from web
Vindex
December 6, 2008
Root didn’t know that interview was being recorded?
Excerpt:
Root: And I’d be willing to bet every dime I have in the world, a million dollars I’ll put, I’ll put a million dollars cash on the factΓ’β¬β
Welch: This is on the recordΓ’β¬β
Root: Γ’β¬βthat my GPA was better than Barack’sΓ’β¬β
Welch: Oooooh.
Root: …and he got in based on the color of his skin.
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Ryan reading the resolution. 2 minutes ago from web
@LNC7 I need a copy of the Barr resolution. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to LNC7
Ryan on Barr resolution. Nolan impresses that it’s a draft and Root references could be removed. 3 minutes ago from web
Let me say this for Root, though: He does seem like a good family man.
pdsa – I agree with you. But you’re worried about subsidizing religious “education”? What you’re subsidizing now is just as bad. It teaches the cult of the omnipotent state. The religious issue is moot. The real issue is that ALL schools will become public schools if Root gets his way. And the state will have to exert more control over homeschooling, too.
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question asked about early suits for debates. Root touts his role in the LV one. sullentrop mentions CPD litigations ongoing elsewhere. half a minute ago from web
G.E. – I’m pretty sure that Mrs. Root is responsible for their daughter’s education.
Vouchers as a fix for public schools is even less libertarian than the evil. I, who have chosen consciously to not procreate, would in effect be subsidising the education of other people’s children, not as a supposed contribution to a greater good for society as a whole, and often taught by religioous fanatics, whose faith I find to be personally reprehensible.
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Flood: how much spent: Root: 25-40K estimated. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Jingo: thanks Root for activity, asks for media contact list to hep the party. Root says yes, i think. half a minute ago from web
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I think a tweet got lost in the lag there… half a minute ago from web
Lark asks about a written report. Root says after the book comes out. less than a minute ago from web
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relays Barr message that he isn’t here to rebuild his law practice. half a minute ago from web
goes on about no campaign in NV, WY, MT, ID, calls swing state strategy bad while not saying it’s bad. less than a minute ago from web
Homeschooling does work, institutional schooling doesn’t. Especially public schooling, which is all there would be if W.A.R.’s welfare-voucher system were implemented. So much for this new “radical” side to Root.
Root wants vouchers for him own homeschool? The Wayne Root Academy? His daughter does seem like an exceptional young woman. How the hell that’s possible is beyond me.
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KEaton asks about Root not getting proper materials for the campaign. Root claims to be a team player, dodges the question. less than a minute ago from web
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Q&A Dixon asks about the campaign debt. Root claims ignorance, that his own reimbursement requests were “lost” as well. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Uses Mustang Ranch as a funny example of how government doesn’t work. 1 minute ago from web
touts government as the bailout cause. Calls for the Big 3 to go bankrupt and reorganize. 3 minutes ago from web
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complains on no workers/volunteers. He doesn’t seem to understand the size differences in sizes of the DP and LP. half a minute ago from web
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wants vouchers and competition, and promotes it as a good message. Also to kill the unions. half a minute ago from web
(aside, that’s damned impressive!) 1 minute ago from web
touts homeschooling as an avenue, and his daughter’s 2240/2400 SAT score w/ perfect 800 reading. 1 minute ago from web
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points out the obama robocalls and how he got the message out. implict message is that LP should do that too and didn’t. less than 20 seconds ago from web
claims he finally got out there and made breakthoughs with Paulites. Calls for money to win (duh!), goes back to Obama example. 1 minute ago from web
claims the campaign didn’t get the Paulites. also touted his media appearances as a “regular”. 3 minutes ago from web
touts upcoming book and tour. “Conscience of a Libertarian: empowering the revolution with god, guns, tax cuts, etc.” didn’t get it all 4 minutes ago from web
says he has a google alert on himself. 6 minutes ago from web
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says he has a google alert on himself. half a minute ago from web
namedropping half the people in the room for doing things. thanks them all 1 minute ago from web
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claims he had no part of the negatives of the campaign, and claims he was the hardest working VP candidate ever, and wanted to do more. less than a minute ago from web
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claims 1000 media appearances on the campaign. less than 10 seconds ago from web
talks about his “sacrifices” and says he’s here to stay. He want to be “our Obama” half a minute ago from web
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calls himself a face for the LP and libertarainism. less than 20 seconds ago from web
thinks he has won over Fox News because he’s gotten more and more time on them. half a minute ago from web
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rants on Obama and says he told us so, and he wants a fresh start, says he’s changed from the Republican Libertarian he was. half a minute ago from web
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his way. less than a minute ago from web
Lark wants an executive summary of the minutes and action items to expedite matters. Sullentrop gets snippy about it, says he’ll do it his less than a minute ago from web
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Wrights asks if its offical. Colley says the contract is signed and done. Dixon asks if it needs formal LNC approval. less than a minute ago from web
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to have teleconference, despite the JudComm rules that they can. 8 minutes ago from web
Bennett asks about JudComm expenses, in anticipation of a Keaton appeal, cites Carling’s POV about JudComm not being able to 2 minutes ago from web
I did, I did taw a toilet! Back… π 4 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
LPNV including Jim D and the adorable LibertarianGirl with a smashing new short sassy red do. LG works out like a fiend.Stunning. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Many interesting folks in gallery: Mrs. David Nolan, Don Patterson, Allen Hacker, Goth God Gene Trosper, the lovely Carolyn Marby less than 5 seconds ago from web
Cannot really hear Starr’s report. Need to deal with right ear eventually. 1 minute ago from web
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Carling sitting with his man crush Holtz.. Correspond with an objectivist who has man crush on Holtz. Can’t bring myself to dislike Holtz. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Might be good to have Donnelly, Seebeck, Montoni and some others do an online meeting review of Starr’s report. Still waiting on strip. less than a minute ago from web
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Starr explains deferred rent, explains that it happens from variable rent levels averaging out over the term. accounting thing. half a minute ago from web
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BTW, any noise on the feed, I apologize for, it’s a function of the fact there’s an open door behind me. less than a minute ago from web
Starr explains negative asset as a “contra-asset” that is because of the asset depreciation. I hope someone can explain it better than I. 1 minute ago from
11:03mdharris:I guarantee you everyone who sent Barr money is going to be getting a lot of “conservative” mailings as soon as Viguerie gets his hands on the Barr data
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Statement of Assets. taking break, waiting for Kelly Barnes of LPC-SanBernCo to get power strip. half a minute ago from web
Key issues: budget, no ED, LP News goes quart, major service cuts, mission statement, barr resolution. 2 minutes ago from web
Starr is spinning Treas report. Ruwart prepares the serious questions. The is one of the key points. 3 minutes ago from web
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60K in red from ballot access costs. Wrights asks about the actual, which is now 42K in red, Jan a 28K influx from some estate. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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Nolan points out that never has a Pres candidate done this before of list sharing until conditions are met. less than a minute ago from web
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The Admiral is very concerned about… Posse Comit!? No way, a libertarian with a serious freedom concern. YESSSSS! half a minute ago from web
SEEBECK? Do you have an extention cord. Kraus spins Barr issue. 1 minute ago from web
Exec session not on the agenda but Redpath thinks there will be one. Room tenses. Dixon wants to know about data sharing and Prz campaign 2 minutes ago from web
Gura to be retained on suit. $ needed. Gura of Heller fame. 4 minutes ago
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Colley points out posse comatitus heritage, relates to a resolution coming up later that Austin drafted up. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Dixon asks about the sharing. Starr says past candidates did it, Barr hasn’t so far? (not sure if I heard right) 1 minute ago from web
Dixon comments that ES better follow the policy manual. Thanks to Steve Meier for putting that bug in his ear. 2 minutes ago from web
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Sullentrup is going on about the grandson of Robert’s Rules 36 minutes ago from web
No one knows I am wearing BTP thong 37 minutes ago from web
Sean Haugh speaks truth about the larger freedom movement. 38 minutes ago from web
Marshall Fritz–RIP 39 minutes ago from web
Crayzee Andy again 41 minutes ago from web
Rob Power –out reach to political left. 41 minutes ago from web
gallery member offers some basic gov texts for professors. 42 minutes ago from web
“Crayzee” Andy Jacob makes per usual Sean Haugh complaint. Haugh is about to burst out laughing. Read Knapp on this topic. 43 minutes ago from web
Temporary take over of this Twitter by A Keaton for LNC nonsense. 44 minutes ago from web
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Gura to be retained on suit. $ needed. Gura of Heller fame. 1 minute ago from web
Verney claims that only he and Barr have the authority to share lists. They will not disclose until debt is paid. No list sharingby Barr. 2 minutes ago from web
Barr and list sharing? Redpath broughtit up with Cory and Verney but they did get back to him. 3 minutes ago from web
Redpath discusses his Senate race. 5 minutes ago from web
wrights adds 15 minutes to hall’s report 7 minutes ago from web
Props to Seebeck, Trosper and Holtz to cover story. Takenage is taking pics for Cal Freedom. Nice. 10 minutes ago from web
They refused to remove it from the agenda. The Discipline of Angela Keaton will follow Wayne Root. Root is my opening act. The absurdity. 13 minutes ago from web
Need to save power. 17 minutes ago from web
Ryan is annoyed that Barr is not here to speak. 18 minutes ago from web
Dixon wants to keep on the agenda. Ruwart, Hawkridge, speak for removal. 18 minutes ago from web
Ruwart speaks out in favor or removal from the 20 minutes ago from web
Wrights want to remove agenda item marked the “discipline of Angela Keaton” 23 minutes ago from web
Starr amendment fails. The Nolan’s statement stays. 24 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge: Barr’s debt. 25 minutes ago from web
Starr reads from policy manual and is very annoyed by the Barr resolution. The Barr resolution submited by Nolan. Ryan wants on the agenda. 25 minutes ago from web
Agenda adoption? 27 minutes ago from web
Hardy Macia’s resignation. Not been replaced. 32 minutes ago from web
Full house of LNC full reps. 33 minutes ago from web
Credentials. 33 minutes ago from web
Sullentrup is going on about the grandson of Robert’s Rules 35 minutes ago from web
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passes without objection. time out. agenda adopted without objection. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Wrights requests Flood distribute. Kraus starts handing it out. Wrights moves to add 30 to counsel report, Ruwart seconds less than a minute ago from web
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move to after lunch. motion called passed, division called. wrights confused. clarified, then revoted, passed. less than 10 seconds ago from web
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Dixon mentions Hacker, who mentions dinenr w/ Ed Clark tonight. Starr motion to move after lunch, passed to sub. motion to move less than a minute ago from web
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extended 5 w/o objection. Ruwart points out budget will take over 2 hours, thinks it’s more important. Starr disagrees. half a minute ago from web
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lack of time. Dixon supports. Flood supports. Starr wants to move it to after lunch (which is not on the agenda). Sub motion. Time out half a minute ago from web
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Lark: moves to move Keaton item to after budget. seconded but objected. Lark thinks budget is more important. Wrights doesn’t like lack 1 minute ago from web
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Wrights calls the question of Ruwart to remove the discipline resolution. 2/3 vote needed from objection. ayes 13 nay 4, passes less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Wrights asks for clarification, Redpath testy. Wrigths was the extend motion. Vote: passes, extend 5 half a minute ago from web
Ryan: couldn’t make him out, but I think it was about the Barr people not being here, Time expires. Motiion to extend 5, objected. 1 minute ago from web
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not last minute. Hawkridge points out the difference in size and lack of Flood distribution. Starr still complains about lack of notice. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Starr complains about Barr resolution notice vs. Keaton notice and resolution. Keaton replies Barr res was submitted 9 days ago and not less than a minute ago from web
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discussion, objections to removal, starr. Ruwart wants it off, as expected, because of charges not given, no chance to review. half a minute ago from web
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vote to remove: aye 5 nay 12, fails half a minute ago from web
.. is over. Dixon wants it left on. Hawkridge agrees, because of debt and Barr is still acting as spokesperson. less than a minute ago from web
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Starr rambles the Bylaws and complains about the Barr resolution and wants it removed. Ryan seconds a motion to remove since the campaign.. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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various LPWA donations as well half a minute ago from web
conflict of interest reporting. Hawkridge reports on LPWA fundraising and a non-profit, report to be given later in writing. less than a minute ago from web
Seebeck: Ruwart raises Keaton question on Flood’s docs not being included. Flood says he’ll have copies available. He made them last night. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Seebeck: Richard Newshouse, LPOC, mentions a college govt book available. Rob Power wants oversight on Staff to outreach left as well as right. 3 minutes ago
Seebeck: The Nolan asking for time to speak on his motion later. regards the mission statement. Wrights comments that no MA sigs were destroyred. less than a minute ago from web
Lark wants to recognize Fritz. applause. half a minute ago from web
the keaton has arrived! 2 minutes ago from web
The sign was Trosper LOL 11 minutes ago from web
People filing in. Seen in the crowd: BetteRose Ryan, M Calring, Brain Holtz, Rob Power, Ruth Bennett, Gene Trosper. 13 minutes ago from web
We be up. Connection may be spotty, had trouble getting it going. 17 minutes
+1.
Oh, and I hear executive sessions have the best stuff…
@393 Kudos to you and your team, including Todd, Michael. Thanks for your hard work and determination. Your stand for openness and transparency should be an example to us all.
Right on.
[email protected]
I got the angela thing on tape i will try to upload it by friday
Why is Rachel Hawkridge speaking out on the blogs, yet refused to speak to me about a very timely and serious subject matter that may have, had it been resolved, saved the LP from dropping 5 states’ ballot access?
Something very fishy and suspicious is going on here and I sure hope my attorney out in Massachusetts can get to the bottom of it when he commences litigation.
What went on sounds like a bunch of HORSE MANURE. Why is there no accountability for misconduct on the part of HQ Staff? We are sorely in need of a “law and order” LNC, I’m afraid to say.
Mega props to Team Seebeck – M for all he did, it was amazing; Lid – bread saved me from blood sugar crash this afternoon. Tastes good, too. :o)
To the Gallery: YOU GUYS ROCK! :o) Thanks.
I forgot one accolade: Todd Andrew Barnett, for helping me debug the rig and getting the early kinks out.
FWIW, I am preparing a post that details the technical side of what I did, so the next one can be even better, and below here I’ll add my thoughts on what happened and some clarifications.
Whew! That was a long one! I look back and I ask, “Did I really type all of that?”
First, some proper accolades:
To Paulie, for stealing my tweets with my blessing and putting them here in something resembling order. You are as much responsible for making this breakthrough as I am.
To Knapp, for suggesting Twitter to do this in the first place right after Denver. That started it.
To The Keaton, for blazing the trail that I just made a little wider and smoother this weekend, and for making this needed breakthrough a necessity in some ways. Don’t give up the fight, but take some time off–you need it.
To all the folks on the chatbox at the justin.tv channel for keeping me advised when things went cuckoo: your help and insights on the other end were invaluable to taking concept and improving it, not to mention keeping the feed going as much as it was. And the humor displayed kept us laughing in the slow spots.
Last, to Lidia, for understanding, patience, love, and snark. π
OK, enough of this album sleeve stuff! π
Thanks Trent.
Did you get a chance to review some of my suggestions yet?
Paulie,
I appreciate the work you do here at the blog.
Very glad to see Hogarth on the platform committee. Very disappointed to see Holtz is still breathing his fetid ideas.
Like I said I will do what I can but I can’t always be the man.
If y’all want to help, send writeups, videos, news, etc to [email protected]
I’m doing like 90% of the posts here right now and I feel like crap at the moment.
Seriously…recap needed. Who’s getting laid off at LPHQ. Who got disciplined. Is Nolan still “The Nolan.”
The dramometer is at the breaking point.
It will be coming in a variety of posts over the next few days.
I’m having breathing problems and feel like crap, but I’ll do what I can.
Still many questions. When will a full report/review be available?
Thanks Sean! π
Don’t thank me – thank Sean Haugh that I don’t have a real (as in paying) job right now π
Paulie, thanks for keeping up with this.
TeamSeebeckM
To ES and out. 1 minute ago from web
roll unanimous yes. 2 minutes ago from web
David resolution to substitute for Ruwart resolution. Wordsmithing. 3 minutes ago from web
“A picture is worth a thousand words. A movie is worth a thousand pictures.” -Me 4 minutes ago from web
Reading resolutions. 7 minutes ago from web
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Reading resolutions. 3 minutes ago from web
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other resolutions: Posse Comatitus resolution. debate. 1 minute ago from web
I remind the LNC of WHY this was being recorded. Crowd went crazy. Dixon thumbs up. 5 minutes ago from web
Power concerned about conservative reputation of LP in blue states. 6 minutes ago from web
3:25tannim123:I tahnked them for being able to tape, told Kraus that teh insurance opinion was for their interest, not ours, reminded that video evidence can be excupltatory as well, and that it provided the open loop between the LNC and the membership that the me…
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Phillies expresses hope for good use of expenses. Positive on candidates. 2 minutes ago from web
Starchild backs Nolan, other comments about lp.org blog comments disabled, poll questions, ideological content 3 minutes ago from web
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Bennett thanks for the LPWA help on the top 2 mess. less than a minute ago from web
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Public comment: Nolan calls Mattson election as PlatCom chair irregular. Starr rolls eyes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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LP News content: move to postpone to charleston. no objection 2 minutes ago from web
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Volunteer confidentiality form Redpath gone. Dixon objects to postponement, Wrights reminds LNC who they work for. postponement passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Not sure what happened on that one. lost track. I need food. 3 minutes ago from web
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Lark PM amendment on lawsuit authorizations (re: NH Phiilies boot suit) 4 minutes ago from web
2:52 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:Starr wanted to amend the PM to “allow” members to record, but that doesn’t require a change since we can do it anyway.
“paulie cannoli // Dec 6, 2008 at 12:22 pm
Seebeck: Sean Haugh expressing hope for unity, working together, etc. less than a minute ago from web”
This was nothing more than Bill Clinton-style weaseling to draw attention away from the fact that Haugh has engaged in criminal conduct and grossly mismanaged ballot access petition drives which contributed to 5 unnecessary ballot access failures and squandered thousands upon thousands of donor’s money with nothing to show for it.
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Keaton argues the case, LNC punts. They have no idea what genie fell out of the bottle today. 1 minute ago from web
Twitters are not being updated and video is off but apparently they are considering a motion to prevent recordings of future LNC meetings. I will vote against anyone who votes for this and organize opposition.
“Wrights comments that no MA sigs were destroyred.”
Yes, Haugh’s orders to “BURN (quite literally)” the 2,00o high validity ballot access petitions collected by Gary Fincher whether they had been paid for or not was not carried out, but that is only because Carol McMahon and George Phillies of the Massachusetts LP are NOT deranged whackos like Sean Haugh is.
This is like saying that a person who attempts to hire a hitman to carry out a murder is only guilty if the murder takes place. Nonsense.
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Sullentrop mentions my idea on digital upgrade and storage. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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Video archiving or meetings (Keaton). Wants discussion with counsel on what’s the best approach re: liability concerns and preservation. 1 minute ago from web
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policy manual amendment deferred, Lark at checkout. less than a minute ago from web
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Sullentrop moves cloture. 8-4 passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
What’s left is lunch, a policy manual amendment, recording and archiving meetings, volunteer confideintiality, LP News content, other res’s 2 minutes ago from web
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LNCC report, Hawkridge says LNCC says they are not responsible to LNC. 3 minutes ago from web
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mattson voted interim Platcom chair. less than 10 seconds ago from web
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Ruwart moves Nolan’s idea, passes. Hogarth gets the last spot, barber gets alt. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Susan Hogarth was just added to platform after a tie break. 1 minute ago from web
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Nolan suggests a run -off on the two 8-vote-getters, winner gets on, loser gets alt. Discussion. half a minute ago from web
those got in, second round to fill last seat moved to be in Charleston (Starr). Wrights objects. Fox wants it done today. 2 minutes ago from web
plat com – 9 people got majority vote , adam meyer , sink burris , richard randall 12 vts, brian holtz , alicia mattson 11 vts, steve gordon , jon roland 10 vts , rob power , hauptmann 9 vts
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PlatCom voting reports. 13 each sink-burris and meyer, 12 randall, 11 ea holtz and mattson, 10 ea gordon and rowland, 9 power and hauptman less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Haawkridge nominates Starchild as Bylaws alt, objected. Keaton objects to Carling at table, overruled. vote 8-6 passes. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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vote was 10-5. passes. Redpath voted although he was leaving, then he actualyl left. 1 minute ago from web
Karlan moves to appoint Vicki Kirtland to alternate. Passes w/o objection. Karlan moves to appoint M Carling to alternate, objected. 2 minutes ago from web
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Karlan moves to appoint Vicki Kirtland to alternate. Passes w/o objection. Karlan moves to appoint M Carling to alternate, objected. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
breach of protocol by having M Carling at the table. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Starchild and Karlan discussion about full by laws report time line. 2 minutes ago from web
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Redpath left for flight. Jingo on gavel. Bylaws committee report. 1 minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Nolan, Bennett and Nolan return and are speaking to Redpath. half a minute ago from web
Karlan as bylaws chair? 3 minutes ago from web
Redpath is leaving for home, Now Jingo has the control but Redpath appt Carling as parl. 4 minutes ago from web
My lovely running mate is skyping me. 5 minutes ago from web
Admiral Colley really nailed down all sorts of comp dealsHe told hotel that the Ds/Rs steal tax payer money to pay but we pay our way. 5 minutes ago from web
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Colley says they plan on upgrading the wireless by then. Karlan asks on printing. Phillies asks about suites vs. regular room quota 2 minutes ago from web
Dates: memorial day weekend. Starchild asks about noise questions with parties. I ask about pet policy and train and bus stations. 4 minutes ago from
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Starchild, Seebeck and others are asking for details about noise, pet policies, print shops. 1 minute ago from web
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St. Louis native Sullentrup is explaining how to get to the site via, bus, train,etc. less than a minute ago from web
Bruce Cohen sends me spanking message. Good to see Bruce is getting his spark back. 1 minute ago from web
Clarification for twitterheads:
A) I am not that Paulie
B) I am not on twitter
C) Angela does not talk to me
Antiwar2
@paulie, I will erase these from twitter before Antiwar goes live at 12:00am eastern. less than 5 seconds ago from web in reply to paulie
@teamseebeckM please list roll call vote on budget. Trying to get details on St.Louis room holds. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
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Memorial day weekend. 2010 St Louis. Thursday bylaw/plat. Friday,sat, sun, mon 2 minutes ago from web
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Dixon moves to accept the contract. Sullentrop seconds. Dixon wants to explain it. Motion passes. 1 minute ago from web
parking cut $21 to $8, room rate $109. 2 minutes ago from web
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Not 20$ per night but 20 down from original rate. less than a minute ago from web
I only voted for six members. None of my votes were personal, just based on prior platform submissions. 2 minutes ago from web
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While Bennett and Hacker (both JC) tally, Colley on 2010 convention report. Marroitt in downtown STL. half a minute ago from web
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Admiral Colley kicked serious ass w/ regard to the convention. Got room rates knocked down 20$ per night. Assorted discounts on food. half a minute ago from web
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voting, paper ballot. 2 minutes ago from web
back to PlatCom nominations. none from floor. Dixon moves to suspend to postpone electronic voting demo to next meeting. w/o objection 2 minutes ago
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marketing report is for fundraising. EC to meet before year-end to decide to kaek adjustments to the budget based on Jingo’s report. passed less than 20 seconds ago from web
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reverse gear, Hawkridge motion was not voted on. Revisited on. BTW, it was a marketing report, not a budget check. Sullentrop seconds less than 20 seconds ago from web
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On to Platcom nominations. 2 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge also leaks ES on “staff cuts.” Mea cupla for her. But Starr already did it earlier. 2 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge moves to have Jingo do a quick and dirty budget check on details and get back to EC in three weeks. Seconded. 3 minutes ago from web
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Hawkridge moves to have Jingo do a quick and dirty budget check on details and get back to EC in three weeks. Seconded. less than a minute ago from web
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Ruwart commends Starr for the presentation. 1 minute ago from web
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hawkridge no fox no passes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
jingo yes starr yes sull yes colley yes dixon yes keaton no wrights no ruwart no ryan yes hinkle yes burris yes flood yes lark no kalran no less than a minute ago from web
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question called, passed, main motion on budget. Roll call vote: half a minute ago from web
we could get 11 hot chicks and starchild , it really would be a good fundraiser . bette rose ryan said they did that in colorado once
http://twitter.com/libertariangirl
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@libertariangirl no kidding. fundraising bonanza there. But we need Starchild as the token male… half a minute ago from web in reply to libertariangirl
Budget numbers juggling to balance. 5 minutes ago from web
@antiwar2 Can we get Lib Hotties centerfolds? That’ll boost circulation in a hurry! LOL! π 5 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Starr just leaked that ES was about “staffing changes”. You draw the conclusions. 7 minutes ago from web
Roundrobin to LNC. 8 minutes ago from web
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Listening carefully as I want to preserve LP News and restore it to its glory. 5 minutes ago from web
Sorry, need to really pay attention to the numbers. 16 minutes ago from web
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LPNews quarterly: Jingo hates cutting it back but recommend it from numbers. Worry about issue. Roundrobin to gallery. 3 minutes ago from web
LP news going quarterly
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COMMENT: That was damned important, and it was good to see that taken up and dealt with in a positive manner. less than a minute ago from web
yes, hawkridge yes, fox yes, redpath nv. passes. Bennett thanks the LNC. Back to budget. 1 minute ago from web
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jingo yes starr no sull yes colley yes dix yes keatogn yes wrights yes ruwart yes ryan yes hinkle yes buris yes flood yes lark yes karlan half a minute ago from web
Discussion. Ruwart says it creates a fundraising pitch as well. Starr moves to extend 5, objected, fails. Main motion: roll call vote: 1 minute ago from web
Karlan says it should be done to help LPWA regardless of other states. Dixon agrees, sort of. 7 minutes ago from web
Bennett explains that if this goes through it’s a tool to kill minor parties. Correction: SCOTUS, not WA SC. 7 minutes ago from web
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Bennett discussing LPWA ballot crisis. Please follow this story. This is the new way of eliminating third parties. 6 minutes ago from web
Militants Torch Over 160 Vehicles Bound for Afghanistan: Early this morning, an estimated 300 militants .. http://tinyurl.com/5qe7q9 13 minutes ago from twitterfeed
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Bennett explains it.Strongest point on overturning is trademark infringement and the WA SC said it was a concern not addressed. half a minute ago from web
Lark and Starr questions on FEC and LPWA question. Hawkridge mentions party labels in relation to the issue. 2 minutes ago from web
Dixon moves to re-appropriate $15K from FEC challenges to help LPWA. Considers it urgent. (It is!) Worries of it spreading. 4 minutes ago from web
Dixon moves to suspend to take up LPWA and Top-two ballot suit issue for 10. no objection. 5 minutes ago from web
ES done. Back up and recording. 8 minutes ago from web
http://knappster.blogspot.com/2008/12/d1-situation-report.html
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ES now. Camera and recording off. about 1 hour ago from web
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Returned from meeting with Jingozian. ES about to start. 44 minutes ago from web
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I will leave the minutiae to the tale of the tape. This is drier than a good martini, which I could use tight now, but that’s budgets! 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
They are reading the tweets again so please watch the Seebeck broadcast you can compare the Starr numbers with others. 5 minutes ago from web
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Lark finally speaks up on the serious issue of LP News. More in my post meeting report. I’m being careful because Carling is reading. 7 minutes ago from web
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Bennett has returned to take notes. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Carling is looking for more information to pass during the meeting. 4 minutes ago from web
Listening to Starr and Kraus discussing fund raising is like listening to Rahm Emanuel discuss Middle East peace. 5 minutes ago from web
Jim from LPNV has entered. 6 minutes ago from web
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Author and Reason Editor Brian Doherty chose not to attend. Something about shaving his head and sticking it in a fire ant hold. less than a minute ago from web
gallery dwindled to Phillies, Power, LibertarianGirl, Kirkland, Mattson, Holtz and Cain. 2 minutes ago from web
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The fundraising and membership discussion is making me ill. Will produce report if I am still an active member of this body. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Carling has parked himself next to Seebeck. Carling is not an attorney. Angela Keaton, JD (University of Florida) 1 minute ago from web
Outside meeting with Hawkridge. 2 minutes ago from web
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Bennet addresses decreasing costs and points out LNC needs to show value to get the donations. less than a minute ago from web
lighter crowd today. Probably a lot of hangovers from last night’s birthday party, which was a good one at Cafe Libertalia. (PLUG!) 3 minutes ago from web
Kraus comments he gets a lot of car calls who saw the bumper stickers. In LA it was probably me since I live in traffic most days. 4 minutes ago from web
Kraus providing some details. 6K new member, 6200 renews Jan-Oct 2008 5 minutes ago from web
Ruwart talking with Starr on donor and membership capture and cost reductions. 7 minutes ago from web
Ruwart checking cost per member–donations in vs. expenses out–CC fees, newsletter etc. 10 minutes ago from web
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projects 2000 new donors. less than 10 seconds ago from web
15,200 members. 1900 life members (roughly). half a minute ago from web
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Colley comes up for better view as well. Hawkridge moved over by Ruwart, ditto Fox. 1 minute ago from web
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Right now, I need to track membership numbers so I am handing this back over to Seebeck. half a minute ago from web
Starr is talking about board raising money. I’m probably the only person on this board who can raise money so he can forget about it. 2 minutes ago from web
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Starr is talking about board raising money. I’m probably the only person on this board who can raise money so he can forget about it. less than a minute ago from web
@TeamSeebeckM I am voting to reject the budget. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
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view screen is difficult to see, colors dim and fonts tiny.Ruwart up front to get a better look at the screen and asking questions. less than a minute ago from web
line-by-line breakdown. I won’t produce that here for length constraints. May hit highlights. 5 minutes ago from web
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Meeting with Haugh & Wrights on the balcony. Haugh spit up laughing threads that insist that Starr was polite when he rejected my advances. half a minute ago from web
Budget begins Membership dues/direct mail. 4 minutes ago from web
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projected costs 430K for support and revenue. program expenses 763K, projected surplus 500. less than a minute ago from web
budget begins. projecting 1.193M revenue, 1.4M rasied so far, 1.7M extrapolated, 1.2M budget planned. (est.) 3 minutes ago from web
budget: motion by Sullentrop to reduce time from 90 to 30, seconded, Wrights objected. voice vote: fails. on to budget 7 minutes ago from web
Keaton says she will not accept any committee investigation.
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budget: motion by Sullentrop to reduce time from 90 to 30, seconded, Wrights objected. voice vote: fails. on to budget 2 minutes ago from web
ruled out of order, passes without objection. I think I missed one name on that list. 4 minutes ago from web
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ruled out of order, passes without objection. I think I missed one name on that list. less than 10 seconds ago from web
starting. first item is to populate the Committee of 7. Jingo lists hawkridge, ruwart, colley, jingo, ryan, sink-burris. Keaton objects half a minute ago from web
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recording, people filing in. 13 minutes ago from web
7:11 and the room is empty, only me and Sullentrop in here and the catering crew. Up and going 7:30 at the earliest, or when it starts at 8 about 1 hour ago from web
Jesus H, what a day! Tomorrow, more of it…C-Span for minor parties, brought to you by me. why? Beats me, but WTF, it’s an experiment… about 9 hours ago from web
http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/12/not-with-bang-but-whimper-damn-that.html
Stewart,
I apologize to all the white male Christian Alabama fans.
Steve Meier
Trent,
The Libertarian Part of Florida passed a resolution condemning the LNC action against Angela. The Alabama Libertarian Party did nothing. This was gods way of showing her displeasure.
I cant believe Alabama lost. Oh well–either way its good for LSU and the SEC.
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adjourn to tomorrow 8 AM. 4 minutes ago from web
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Florida 31, Alabama 20; USC 28, UCLA 7; OU 10, MU 0, 2nd. less than 20 seconds ago from web
12/5-6/09 set for that meeting. 7/25-26/09 set for that meeting. Locations TBD 3 minutes ago from web
then it was put to majority vote to be heard at body’s indulgence. This is a good thing. 9 minutes ago from web
Starchild points out to me that another precedent has been set here that if a gallery member wants to be heard and there is an objection, 9 minutes ago from web
Move on to next meeting dates. discussion 10 minutes ago from web
Colley and Ruwart say it is. 11 minutes ago from web
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then it was put to majority vote to be heard at body’s indulgence. This is a good thing. 3 minutes ago from web
Starchild points out to me that another precedent has been set here that if a gallery member wants to be heard and there is an objection, 3 minutes ago from web
Move on to next meeting dates. discussion 4 minutes ago from web
Colley and Ruwart say it is. 5 minutes ago from web
Colley on ED search. No results for now. Starchild allowed to ask if ideological factor for the ED spot be moved to higher priority 8 minutes ago from web
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Colley on ED search. No results for now. Starchild allowed to ask if ideological factor for the ED spot be moved to higher priority 1 minute ago from web
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Karlan motions for something, mail ballting, passed unanimously. I think it was on more info on recording mail balloting. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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I think they finally ended that. No idea what happened. Nolan announcing the birthday party, maps coming. 1 minute ago from web
Γ’β¬ΕThe Mission of the LP is to move public policy in a libertarian direction by building a network of pro-freedom activists who can debate.”
Starr calls it vague.
Is vagueness a problem? The old Platform was criticized for being too specific?
Do reformers want a specific Mission Statement, but a vague Platform?
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I think they’re voting on goals individually. 8 minutes ago from web
thomaslknapp
Five to remove … it only takes six to defeat the motion when taken up, and I bet at least one voted to keep it on but will vote against it about 9 hours ago from web
@TeamSeebeckM Barr resolution? about 9 hours ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
OK everyone, prepare to start sticking the pins in the Sullentrup doll. 3, 2, 1 … about 9 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Not that you need it about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@antiwar2 Need to get BTP bras going — that way YOU can get some, um, material support about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@Antiwar2 Kick their asses! about 9 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@TeamSeebeckM Cool … time for some ass-kicking! about 10 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@TeamSeebeckL — 5.1, epicentre near Ludlow about 10 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckL
Twittgroup for the Boston Tea Party: http://twittgroups.com/grou… 5:52 PM Dec 4th from web
KN@PPSTER: Multiple freedom parties? — http://tinyurl.com/6glkl3 5:03 PM Dec 4th from TwitterFox
@susanhogarth Try quillpill.com — it’s set up to do what you’re trying to do, including organizing the stories under titles. 4:09 PM Dec 3rd from TwitterFox in reply to susanhogarth
@TeamSeebeckM — I live just outside the city. Guy’s absolutely right, but of course panties are in a bunch over it. 2:26 PM Dec 3rd from TwitterFox in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@shanajean Ramos and Compean are slime. They got off light and certainly shouldn’t be pardoned. 1:50 PM Dec 1st from TwitterFox in reply to shanajean
KN@PPSTER — LNC to honor Keaton? http://tinyurl.com/5nl4nf 1:00 PM Nov 25th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER – A recipe for civil disobedience: http://tinyurl.com/6jmfzb 12:47 PM Nov 24th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Ghost Story — http://tinyurl.com/64qrvt 10:56 AM Nov 22nd from TwitterFox
@libertariangirl Twitter-enabled frying pan? That’s KEWL 7:34 AM Nov 22nd from TwitterFox in reply to libertariangirl
KN@PPSTER: Same as the old boss, part 2: Civil liberties — http://tinyurl.com/5qaxg2 12:16 PM Nov 21st from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Same as the old boss, part 1: Foreign policy — http://tinyurl.com/5562n2 10:23 AM Nov 20th from TwitterFox
KN@PPSTER: Parting thoughts on the Barr campaign — http://tinyurl.com/5wzhdm 1:06 PM Nov 18th from TwitterFox
homaslknapp
@antiwar2 Did you catch who seconded the suspension resolution? Enemies lists should have documentation of all evil deeds. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@karldickey I doubt it. The clique is using him up with this. They wouldn’t expose themselves to it, sent him in as cannon fodder. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
@TeamSeebeckM Who seconded the suspension resolution? about 3 hours ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@scottbieser If there’s any tying up involved, I suspect Angela’s the one doing the tying. about 3 hours ago from web in reply to ScottBieser
tap, tap … is this thing on? about 3 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Please let Admiral Colley know that Navy is up on Army 24-0 in the third quarter. about 6 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Side note: Go Navy! about 7 hours ago from web
@A_S Cool. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to A_S
@A_S Geez … even I’m not THAT vain. But maybe I should be. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to A_S
Yeah, because saying that Obama only got into law school because he’s black isn’t a negative or anything. about 8 hours ago from web
Root budget rescue: He should give Redpath a freebie to his top picks. Redpath can bet $10k each week until the LP is bigger than Microsoft about 8 hours ago from web
Has Root started offering a discount on Amway starter kits to the board members yet? about 8 hours ago from web
@antiwar2 Sounds like a lot of time could have been saved by a three-word report summary (“Folks, we’re screwed”) instead of long version about 8 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
@karldickey NP. Of course, I could be wrong. I’m 1500 miles away, after all, so I can’t hear to well either. about 8 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
Plus whatever comes in in dues, etc., of course. about 8 hours ago from web
@karldickey No, it’s worse than that. $42k in the red now, $28k in revenue coming in January (if the FEC doesn’t disallow it — bequest) about 8 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
@kipesquire Ditech never STOPPED advertising. But they were acquired by GMAC. Wonder what that did for GM’s bailout-prone bottom line? about 8 hours ago from web in reply to KipEsquire
@antiwar2 Yeah, what Hogarth said. But be more catty: “Mr. Chair, has anyone asked Mr. Barr if his GOP PAC can help with the debt?” about 8 hours ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Better to cut our losses on the Barr campaign — lock it away in the closet like the crazy aunt nobody talks about. about 9 hours ago from web
Perversely, it’s probably better for the LP if the LNC doesn’t get/use Barr’s list — last thing we need is an inflow of Republicans. about 9 hours ago from web
thomaslknapp
@TeamSeebeckM have to go offline. Could you direct msg me if any more skulduggery comes up? about 1 hour ago from web in reply to TeamSeebeckM
@karldickey victory of sorts — substitute motion calling for offline discussion instead of suspension. Passed unanimously. about 1 hour ago from web in reply to karldickey
Yay! It would have been better just to defeat the main motion instead of letting these people take it private, but it’s still a victory. about 1 hour ago from web
I remain convinced that Lark is a mensch. I wish he was chair again. about 2 hours ago from web
Sullentrup talking about responsibility is like the Temperance League holding its convention at a bar. about 2 hours ago from web
Perhaps Sullentrup should elaborate by telling the story of the MOLP state chair who trashed his party’s ticket in the state’s largest paper about 2 hours ago from web
@kiddleddee The question is, professional at WHAT? about 2 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to kiddleddee
I seem to recall the LNC going to great lengths to NOT talk about one of its functionaries using the LPHQ credit card to hire, um, escorts. about 2 hours ago from web
Yes, liability protection is an issue. So should the LNC stand there in public and claim that one of its members is a sexual harasser? about 2 hours ago from web
Ah, the LNC culture — by all means screw the membership, but let’s be COLLEGIAL about it. about 2 hours ago from web
Karlan didn’t seem to have a “conflict of interest” when the LNC wanted to endorse a Republican presidential candidate. about 2 hours ago from web
Show’em your BTP thong, Angela! about 2 hours ago from web
Yo, Starr — if you want the 700+ BTPers to be supportive of the LP, perhaps you shouldn’t be using Flood as a beard to attack them. about 2 hours ago from web
@jeremy6d Libertarian National Committee meeting/Vyshinsky show trial gone awry about 2 hours ago from TwitterFox in reply to jeremy6d
@karldickey I’ll try to remember to do that. Leaving myself as soon as this is over. about 2 hours ago from web in reply to karldickey
Note to self: Add Karlan to enemies list. about 2 hours ago from web
I hope her statement closes with “and by the way … go fuck yourselves.” about 2 hours ago from web
Dyslexic retort: Denali ain’t just a mountain range in Alaska. about 2 hours ago from web
I almost miss the old days. Venality’s at least more dignified than this pity party stuff. about 2 hours ago from web
Will someone PLEASE give Stewart a Valium or something? about 2 hours ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
goals discussion continues. I’ll defer to the tape, I lost track from tweet problems. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
sub motion by Ruwart on some part of it. Procedure amended. DIxon moves to adopt the goals as written. 2 minutes ago from web
the motion is still under discussion. Keaton thinking an exit and nap. 3 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Holtz is speaking from the gallery. His voice is starting to improve. 17 minutes ago from web
The Nolan is still kicking ass. 23 minutes ago from web
Keaton and Ruwart have caucus in ladies’ room. Barr supporter and I plant to tie on tonight. 23 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Discussion. half a minute ago from web
@Antiwar2 My back is getting rigor mortis! 3 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Dixon moves to adopt goals procedure. seconded. Ruwart asks about metrics on goals. 4 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Dixon moves to adopt goals procedure. seconded. Ruwart asks about metrics on goals. half a minute ago from web
I mean that libertarians in general aren’t racists and we do not subscribe to such behavior.
6:52tannim123:paulie is blogging them
6:52tannim123:motion to postpone the mission statement passed. it was a sub motion
6:53letlibertyring:The question is
6:53stevemeier:all right we can show leadership in avoidance
6:53letlibertyring:was Angela booted from the board?
6:53paulie_cannoli:Not the chat here
6:53stevemeier:worse they added you
6:53paulie_cannoli:LLR check IPR
6:53stevemeier:thats what you get for leaving the room
6:53paulie_cannoli:Todd you are drafted for LNC
6:53stevemeier:you have all of our deepest sympothies
6:54mdharris:Get your $10,000 per year ready, eh?
6:54stevemeier:apperently it is no longer a requirement that you are a member of the party
6:54paulie_cannoli:It is now a requirement that you not be a member of the party
6:54stevemeier:what was the other requirement
6:54letlibertyring:Who?
6:55stevemeier:ohh yea you have to speak derogatorily about the other members
6:55letlibertyring:What do you mean “they added” me?
6:55stevemeier:and using that crietea your name was at the top of the list
6:55paulie_cannoli:Todd, you are now an at large member of the LNC whether you like it or not
6:55stevemeier:sorry dude we couldn’t stop them
6:56paulie_cannoli:We tried but we were ruled out of order
6:56stevemeier:angela was pissed she doesn’t want the competition
6:57paulie_cannoli:They are appointing a committee to study whether to appoint a committee to censure us for speaking out of turn
6:57letlibertyring:Paulie, bullshit lol
6:57letlibertyring:I’m not a member of the LP
6:57paulie_cannoli:It’s true. Dondero will also be on the LNC with you
6:57letlibertyring:Was Angela booted from the board?
6:57letlibertyring:Funny
6:58stevemeier:now i get itt they want a ballenced board
6:58stevemeier:no they decided to appoint a committee to figure out how to avoid doing anything
7:00georgedonnelly:feed down
7:00letlibertyring:So they didn’t boot her?
7:00paulie_cannoli:No, punted
7:00letlibertyring:Punted?
7:01paulie_cannoli:Committee to study and report to next meeting
7:02tannim123:stream update pls
7:02georgedonnelly:dead
7:02paulie_cannoli:dead
7:02stevemeier:A cleaver way to avoid even having to vote to table the motion
7:02genetrosper:asa doornail
7:03paulie_cannoli:So they can waste yet more time on this next time
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:sorry about that. bandwidth again
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:better?
7:03georgedonnelly:yes
7:03 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:thx
7:03paulie_cannoli:And they just punted the mission statement too. Did they actually get anything done yet today?
7:04mdharris:My meetings go a lot differently…
7:04georgedonnelly:if i was on the lnc i would be pissed about spending all this money and time just to punt everhing
7:04mdharris:I sometimes wonder if I don’t run them like a dictator, but stuff does get done efficiently.
7:04paulie_cannoli:Albanian Soviet rules “punt the c….”
7:05stevemeier:tannim thanks for all your effort
7:05paulie_cannoli:+1
7:05 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:I’m trying guys, and I appreciate it.
7:05 [Justin.tv moderator] tannim123:
7:05stevemeier:hey the appreciation runs all your dirrection
7:06paulie_cannoli:New LNC motto: “When in doubt stay in doubt”
I won’t be satisfied until Root apologizes for the racist Obama statement. If he truly wants to be a Libertarian, he needs to learn that libertarians ARE NOT or subscribe to racism!
TeamSeebeckM
Next: lark and dixon on party goals, rest of term. half a minute ago from web
motion to postpone passes. 1 minute ago from web
Starchild thinks the SOP is the Mission statement and the members should decide. Wrights moves to table. Seconds, objected. 2 minutes ago from web
Flood: length is concern. Wrights: wants Starchild to speak. Redpath looks to Lark for help. motion to have Starchild speak passes. 3 minutes ago from
TeamSeebeckM
OK, back up on tweet. Motion is back to the Karlan amendment being the main motion. Hinkle gets Holtz to speak. 3 minutes ago from web
I’ll do that Paulie….you have the exclusive on this.
I’ll try and get the video to you sometime tomorrow…it’s about 35 minutes long.
I have to say, my opinion of Root has changed somewhat. I view him much more kindly that I used to.
TeamSeebeckM
Karlan: moves to delete “can effectively”. Hawkridge seconds. Starr calls question w/o obejction, on Karlan amendment. No objection. Now 2 minutes ago from web
What does Dixon mean by “lowered bar”? Getting more people into the party that would lower the “professional” level?
TeamSeebeckM
Ryan: wants more specifics as well. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Flood: likes idea, but would like explicit language to include running candidates as well. Not an amendment. less than a minute ago from web
Dixon: asks if a lowered bar is a concern. The Nolan says that only running candidates causes loss of potential members and support. 3 minutes ago from web
Lark: opposed, need more specifics, but needs more thrust. Hinkle: broader-based draws more people and more support. Supports motion 4 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Ruwart speaks in support. I’d love to mention AB1634 here, but I’m stuck in the peanut gallery. less than a minute ago from web
can effectively support positive policy changes and oppose negative changes by working within the political process.” 2 minutes ago from web
“The Mission of the LP is to move public policy in a libertarian direction by building a network of pro-freedom activists who can 3 minutes ago from web
debate. Starr calls it vague. 4 minutes ago from web
Cool….shoot it to [email protected] if/when you get it converted
I was able to video a few things earlier this morning. Got all of Root’s speech.
TeamSeebeckM
mission statement. Karlan asks if the issue statement eliminates candidates. Friendly amendment to fix that. Hawkridge moved, Ruwart 2nd. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
The Nolan makes new mission statement. Please let it pass so Hogarth and Liberman stop crawling up everyone’s ass. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
mission statement. Mentions LPCA-SD killing $10B in bonds and taxes over the years. wants to add issues campaigning to the mission less than 20 seconds ago from web
Hawkridge in Mission Statement (The Nolan motion). Hawkridge defers to The Nolan. The Nolan addresses the limitation of the mission 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Haugh: LPNC is “pumped” at moving past petitions. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Wrights: calls LPNC a win, and thanks LNC for their assist. 1 minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Salute to Mike Munger and his fab hair. Munger has already volunteered to serve at the bottom of the Keaton/Shinghal ticket. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
ballot qualifications. less than a minute ago from web
background noise down. Redpath suggests expedite to submit written reports without obection. Flood reads LPNC letter about ballot less than a minute ago from web
back A lot of people needed that. 5 minutes ago from web
brb. 12 minutes ago from web
And so this ends, not with a bang, but with a whimper?
Antiwar2
Shot down in flames. Keaton stays. Dixon and I have one on one to clear the air. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar Radio Andrew Bacevich: Empire Weakens America http://tinyurl.com/5tllgr 4 minutes ago from twitterfeed
Antiwar Radio Jesse Trentadue: Documents Show FBI Sting in OKC Bombing http://tinyurl.com/5v3268 4 minutes ago from twitterfeed
Keaton matter punted to committee to report at next meeting
TeamSeebeckM
now main motion, which replaces Flood charges. Comittee of 7? passes unanimously. Bathroom break for 3. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
sub motion: Starr just wants it fixed. Ryan calls question, 2/3 vote. passed. sub motion vote: passed unanimously. sub motion is now less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
the proviso to be aware of the liability concerns for the future. less than 5 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Ruwart seconds. extend to 15 objected, 5 accepted. Lark apologizes to Keaton to a lack of defending her. Lark wanted to drop it with the less than 20 seconds ago from web
Jingo: wants a resolution to committee offline to discuss it away from the meeting if Keaton agrees to stop the behavior. Called sub motion 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Jingo: poor judgment, what to do about it? Says the standards are too high, and that Keaton is boxed in from them, and that’s a problem half a minute ago from web
the budget. 1 minute ago from web
Hawkridge brings up Barr’s PAC as example of selective enforcement. Calls the stuff mostly petty, wants to get past this and move on to the 1 minute ago from web
Sullentrop is worried about liability from SH. Denies kissing Wrights was SH. Wrights said that was his point. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Sullentrop thinks Keaton doesn’t know the difference between breaching duty and the responsibility of the LNC. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Keaton going off on Starr. Dixon states that some people have stood up to block stuff out of order. less than a minute ago from web
Starr: complains about Keaton blocking Verdin from Platcom b/c was on RLC. Keaton says not so. Back and forth. Smacks down Redpath 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Keaton to Fox: respect is mutual. Keaton, Moulton, Benedict and other not respected by Starr and such, and rest sat by. less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Sink-Burris: Worried about liability protection. less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Hawkridge brings up Tom Stevens re. other party support. Time up. Motion to extend 30 by Ryan, objected, 10 approved. less than 5 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Fox: thinks it’s not professional. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Fox: some are concerning, some are ridiculous, late issue is a problem. Says that Keaton did bring it on herself by lack of respect. less than 10 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Wrights is up, talking about hugs, Sullentrup kissing him (laughter). Says effectively that people need to look in the mirror. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Wrights: claims the entire board is complicit in aiding another party candidate in Ron Paul. Witnessed Hansen apology. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Karlan: Thinks the BTP stuff is compounded, claiming that it wasn’t disclosed today. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Sullentrop out of order. Starr tries to address her directly in a condescending way. half a minute ago from web
Starr: BTP part disturbs him and the donor contact. Starr doesn’t know the difference between a facebook page and a political party. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Calls Flood dangerous when not on even keel. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Keaton says any further ES that is used to charged people she’ll broadcast it again. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
line on her being the reason no contract. ES was improperly called. less than a minute ago from web
Keaton on ES: within her rights to report stuff on her own situation in ES. References Carling not having a NDA and claiming Cory’s line 1 minute ago
TeamSeebeckM
Keaton apologized to Hansen who didn’t know what she was talking about. Calls Kraus’s involvement improper. less than a minute ago from web
Redpath: fundraising post was libellous. Dxion asks Keaton to address. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Ryan: wants a defense as well, thinks the situation is a “cancer” and wishes it gone. less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Colley: disagrees with framing of Keaton’s comments, language, but supports her right to express her opinion. Wants to hear a defense. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Dixon addresses stuff. Ruwart concerns on gravitas and due process. She mentions membership dissent. less than 5 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Starr divided the stuff while Flood was speaking, meaning Karlan’s motion was planned. Motion to divide,ayes 6 nay 8, fails. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Karlan wants to divide to create 11 shots to suspend. less than a minute ago from web
many in the membership. doing her duty, calls the charges an attempt to shut out dissenting voices. Applause. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Keaton speaking on her own behalf. Looks like a prepared statement, says her rights to receive this, and that her opinions are that of many less than 5 seconds ago from web
Karlan motion to divide into 11 questions. Dixon wants Keaton to be able to respond. less than a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Flood is a first class nutter. 2 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Old ES stuff mentioned, now he’s at the phone call. Flood claims this was known 30 days in advance (these charges). 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Flood gets laughed at, really losing his temper now. He’s almost shouting. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
“Offense is in the eyes of the person who is being offended. ” –Stewart Flood. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
2 minutes left. Unknown if Keaton will have time to respond. half a minute ago from web
Flood pulls the third-party offended routine on this, which of course is never a legitimate harassment issue. 1 minute ago from web
Flood reads the Ferguson comment. Chuckles in the crowd. 3 minutes ago from web
Flood has lost his place, then found it, then went on to LNC member comments. 4 minutes ago from web
Keaton asks Flood about who’s what. Flood is losing his composure. 5 minutes ago from web
Vader pic up. People are chuckling, 6 minutes ago from web
Flood finished with the donors part, now going into the alleged harassment stuff. 8 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Flood and Kraus have just told a lie. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Flood finished with the donors part, now going into the alleged harassment stuff. less than a minute ago from web
@Antiwar2 You go, girl! π 3 minutes ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Antiwar2
Holtz is now completely asleep. less than a minute ago from web
Sullentrup is done. 2 minutes ago from web
Kraus needs to go. 3 minutes ago from web
Holtz is falling asleep. If that doesn’t say it all… 4 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Talking about the Root stuff now. He’s not in the room. 1 minute ago from web
Keaton just shot down Kraus’s dirty looks. 2 minutes ago from web
@thomaslknapp didn;t catch that, sorry. Male voice 3 minutes ago from web in reply to thomaslknapp
TeamSeebeckM
“It’s either Ms. Keaton or Mrs. Doherty. I’m not your sister!” Keaton to Flood. 2 minutes ago from web
Wrights tells Flood to not speak for him. Keaton wants each one up and discussed openly. 2 minutes ago from web
The first pages are up now, and it’s basically what is viewable at LFV: http://tinyurl.com/5s5962 3 minutes ago from web
“Poor poor Stewart” will be promptly appended to the end of Flood’s presentation.
TeamSeebeckM
finally got the projector working, and Flood’s trying to get the thing up there. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Poor poor Stewart. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Motion made and seconded, Flood to speak on it. half a minute ago from web
[Dixon seconded]
TeamSeebeckM
Keaton asks for the Darth Vader pic to be put on the screen. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Antiwar2
Poor Stewart. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Antiwar2
I am very proud of my writings. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Flood begins the witch trial. Frankly, I don’t like being the center of the attention. I don’t have the looks or charisma to merit it. less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Flood to read the resolution 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
OK< here we go! half a minute ago from web Redpath asking about CA fiscal problem. Haugh comments on CA positively impacting NC? half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Nice pic of Jesse Thomas and Donna Orlando in front of their Cafe Libertaria. Location of birthday party. 1 minute ago from web
@ScottBieser I’m more concerned with what the Rev. R Lee will be so moved to do. The fire of freedom burns. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to ScottBieser
Antiwar2
John Howell of platform ’08 is here.Beau Cain of LPC operations. KT is showing pics of fund raisers. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
Starchild looks amazing. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
KT likes the results from Meetups and House parties. less than 5 seconds ago from web
@paulie, all twits will be removed after the meeting since this is the Antiwar2 twitter feed, half a minute ago from web in reply to paulie
KT is actually giving a very well construted report which notes winning campaigns, pics of activists actually doing activism and writers. 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
mentions prop 8 work, Ed Clark fundraiser, and getting OC Register columnist and editor Steve Greenhut into the party. half a minute ago from web
Starchild is there in a studded collar.
TeamSeebeckM
mentioning CA election winners less than 20 seconds ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Taka is covering for our region reps. half a minute ago from web
Antiwar2
ES is over. 2:15 to open 5 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
reconvening, do CA report now since Kevin Taka on schedule restrictions. 2 minutes ago from web
Keaton catches Starr trying to mess with the laptop. 34 minutes ago from web
And we’re rolling…
http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/12/inquisition-of-angela-keaton.html
http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/12/bob-barr-campaign-owes-quarter-million.html
http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2008/12/because-absudity-is-obviously-foreign.html
http://georgedonnelly.com/libertarian/san-diego-lnc-meeting
http://knappster.blogspot.com/2008/12/d-day-brief-notes-part-1.html
http://twitter.com/thomaslknapp
Chat’s still going at http://www.justin.tv/tannim123
Thanks guys!
That’s why it’s the LAST free voice as soon as I get some people to write with me more at NFV.
They are eating lunch or in closed session.
I’m eating lunch too.
Paulie, your reporting here is a great service. Keep it up. I like being able to follow all the feeds on my favorite third-party website.
They should know it.
I wonder if most contributors to political campaigns know – or are told – that their personal information will be “sold” to the highest bidder.
Donny Ferguson
“Actually they need to hold onto the names until the debt is paid and itΓ’β¬β’s a common practice. Many campaigns pay off their debts by renting their lists. IΓ’β¬β’m already getting DNC, Obama and other liberal requests for donations under name I donated to Hillary under because sheΓ’β¬β’s renting her list to pay off her debts.
If they were to turn it over to the Party before the debt is paid, it would devalue the list and make them unable to pay overdue invoices, which hurts vendors and the employees who work for them.”
TeamSeebeckM
Probably aorund 2PM PST reconvene accoridng to redpath. Lunchtime. half a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
ES without objection. Have to stop the feed. Their plan is to adjourn to lunch after they leave ES. Not sure when back, so keep eyes open 1 minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Wrights: motion to enter ES to discuss litigation issues. Seconded by someone (Dixon?). Discussion relating to lunch by Lark. 2 minutes ago from web
Antiwar2
Wrights want so discuss full report. I’m scared. Lee is got the fire of the Freedom Gods in his soul. Someone is goingto hell. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Antiwar2
Wrights wants ES to speak to Hall. Open sessionfirst. less than a minute ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
No idea what Hall said that got the applause. Hall thinks the top-two should be top priority. 2 minutes ago from web
Executive Session
Antiwar2
Bill Hall on speaker phone. Legal report but also in his cap as state chair Lp-Mi that two PARTISAN election victories in his great state. 7 minutes ago from web
TeamSeebeckM
Counsel’s report next, then maybe lunch. 3 minutes ago from web
I think we need a rose tinted glasses caucus and I think Mr Root should be its director.
Case in point. Chuck, where is Keaton’s twit feed from Sept. meet?
Antiwar2
I voted yes. I want to see how poorly the white anglo middle class men fail in their attempts to court large donors. 1 minute ago from web
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Redpath wants to push counsel’s report before lunch. break for 7 to get Hall on the phone. less than a minute ago from web
Posting information about LNC fundraising is being defined as “aggression”. We in the Transparency Caucus disagree.
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hawkbridge yes, motion passes. less than 5 seconds ago from web
J: yes Starr no sull yes coll yes dix yes kea no wri yes ruw yes ryan yes hinkle yes burris yes flood yes lark yes kalran yes fox yes less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Lark speaks to removing those of us who are boycotting. I don’t raise money for Republican Candidates.
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Lark calls question. vote to postpone fails. Back to original motion (Lark, not Ruwart). roll call vote half a minute ago from web
Paulie: “Root says he is a radical now.”
Root is lying/spinning, again.
Just a few days ago, he told Eric Dondero (it was posted on IPR just days ago), that his 520,000 votes is “impossible for the Radicals to spin negatively.”
Implying that he wasn’t a radical.
Now he is? This is standard Root, trying to tell every audience what he thinks they want to here.
thx
I find your reporting very valuable, paulie.
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Wrights opposes Starr motion, says it’s not about the numbers, but it is an act of agression (Hawkridge). less than 5 seconds ago from web
Starr moves to postpone after budget and seconded. Move to extend 10, objected, 2/3 vote, passes. less than a minute ago from web
Ruwart moves to get Give and Get names off the web site if they request. Dixon seconds. So does Hawkridge. So does Fox. 2 minutes ago from web
Also, it helps preserve a record in case twitter feeds are later removed
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Kraus continues to violate the norm that EDs do not get involved in factional fights. 3 minutes ago from web
LNC Give or Get program: Ruwart is boycotting as is Keaton. Wants them not to be reported. 4 minutes ago from web
Thanks, Peter!
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@Antiwar2 is that for the laptop or the discipline session? LOL! less than 20 seconds ago from web in reply to Antiwar2
Ruwart asks why donations are still being posted for Give and Get since she’s boycotting it as “crass”. 1 minute ago from web
Even people like me who are blocked by one of the Twitter feeds can still read each of the feeds in their entireties on their own pages.
Yes, but then you have to back a bunch of pages, etc.
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thanks for LP of SB Co for getting me a cord and duct tape. 1 minute ago from web
Haugh’s detailed report continues along with his recommendations for 2010. 2 minutes ago from web
Even people like me who are blocked by one of the Twitter feeds can still read each of the feeds in their entireties on their own pages.
Chuck, you can use any of the existing LNC threads. Click on LNC from the tags menu on teh left.
Can someone start an open thread about the LNC meeting where discussion won’t be completely overwhelmed by relaying of twitter feeds in comments?
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Haugh comments on the Hill/Roberts issue and trademark issues with nutcase candidates. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Starr asks the consequences if we lose. Bennett says LP issues are the ones the OR SC is looking at. 2 minutes ago from web
Bennett discussing the litigation. concern is loss of counsel means loss of briefs filed, and loss of case 3 minutes ago from web
I continue to be befuddled as to why ballot access is a problem in any states other than OK and WV maybe. Maybe I am just a naive observer, but the requirements don’t seem that onerous, provided the right people are involved and there is some semblance of an organized effort.
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Ruth Bennett is giving facts of life talk w/regard to LPWa situation.Crisis. This is the new way for the R/D Empire party to destroy us. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Peace lover and former talk radio host Zander Collier, 18 minutes ago from
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Bennett says that if the top-2 lives, LPWA dies, but help is desperately needed. 1 minute ago from web
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We’re watching the CA one, BTW, assuming the CA legislature ever gets its budget figured out. 2 minutes ago from web
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Haugh mentions worry about top-2 spreading to CA and beyond. OR just voted it down, and CA has it in a pipe in the legislature. half a minute ago from web
Lawsuit updates. WA on top-2: asking LNC for $$ help since LPWA is tapped and been going with it, atty withdrawn as well. 3 minutes ago from web
Seems to me that any serious candidate for the libertarian presidential nomination should show up with a plan for getting on the ballot. So one problem with Barr tossing his hat in the ring so late is there couldn’t have been much planning. I am presuming that the lpnc was trying to recruit Paul.
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Hinkle asks about a master list of ballot access requirements half a minute ago from web
But it appears to be only in a few states. 4 minutes ago from web
Ruwart asks about effective methods and a way to develop a training regimen to help the effort. Haugh thinks it is already documented 5 minutes ago from web
Starr asks about state-level contributions to the ballot access fights. 6 minutes ago from web
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Dixon echoes Wrights, calls WV and OK bad investments. Haugh points out that having a good state-level candidate helps. less than a minute ago from web
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Wrights points out that cash helps but ballot access is important. Lauds Munger because of the NC ballot access struggle. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Starr advocating for earlier conventions. half a minute ago from web
Jingo asks when is the earliest to have a convention to avoid signature problems? Haugh says the numbers are to small to worry. 1 minute ago from
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Jingo has the gavel for this. details on ballot access. Go to the recording later for details. half a minute ago from web
Apparently the SoS TX disputes the 2% vote total in the statutes. Agrees with Dixon. 4 minutes ago from web
races, and asks about contingency plans for states. Haugh says he has state-by-state analysis to maintain and improve it. 6 minutes ago from web
Dixon on TX ballot access believes every TX state race next cycle contested 3 ways (D/R/L), worries about losing ballot access from races 7 minutes ago
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races, and asks about contingency plans for states. Haugh says he has state-by-state analysis to maintain and improve it. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Dixon on TX ballot access believes every TX state race next cycle contested 3 ways (D/R/L), worries about losing ballot access from races less than a minute ago from web
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Hawkridge brings up Terra Eclipse killing the archives. Wrights wants clarification of terms etc. Redpath calls it an offline topic. less than 5 seconds ago from web
One dirty hand washes the other.
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haugh wants approval to tell kolhaas to go raise money. half a minute ago from web
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talking about PA ballot access challenges. calls it “unprecedented”. calls MA substitution case unexpected as well. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Haugh: not sure what he’s referring to, had to restart feed. I think it’s about SD ballot access or party petitioning, not certain. 2 minutes ago from web
haugh wants to do ballot access in Nebraska, Alaska, SD. Probably in the winter.
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Kraus complains the Barr motion would have been detrimental to staff and morale. less than a minute ago from web
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staff reports: Kraus defers to Haugh. half a minute ago from web
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Dixon asks chair to have secretary to record seconds on motions. less than 20 seconds ago from web
burris no, flood no, lark no, karlan no, fox no, hawkridge no, redpath no vote, fails. less than a minute ago from web
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10 fails, 3 fails. Main vote. Jingo: yes Starr: no sull: no Colley no Dixon no Keaton yes wirghts abstain Ruwart no Ryan yes Hinkle no half a minute ago from web
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Jingo asks abotu postponement. Starr complains about time. hawkridge moves to extend 10, objected, Jingo 3, objected. Vote to extend 10 half a minute ago from web
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plenty of evidence that the Root campaign were dismissed. Fact-checking should be done. Extend for 1 failed for Flood to respond. less than a minute ago from web
campaign statements from Barr. Karlan: calls it a wrong chastisement. Keaton: asks Flood for specifics on libel, and that there was plenty 2 minutes ago from web
Flood: says the expenses on office renovations are false, and something else in there is libellous. Tries to deflect Barr campaign 3 minutes ago from web
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Colley: ask Nolan. Starr objects. Ruwart: points out this illustrates no way to resovle disputes, calls for a better way. less than 5 seconds ago from web
LP logo, etc. is the problem. wants a step back. 1 minute ago from web
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move to extend 5 passes w/o objection. Jingo: wants it deferred, thinks that failure to respond to Root by barr, the website lack of LP less than 20 seconds ago from web
Hawkridge moves to extend 15, objected, 10, objected, 5 objected. move to 15 extend fails. Vote on resolution, roll call vote, majority. 1 minute ago from web
Starr asks Redpath if this is a condemnation of Barr, which would require 2/3 to pass. Time up. Redpath says no. 2 minutes ago from web
their promises. Says no on the motion (Dixon concluded, lag) 12 minutes ago from web
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their promises. Says no on the motion (Dixon concluded, lag) 8 minutes ago from web
Starr asks Root if he would vote for it. Root says in long wind, no. less than a minute ago from web
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Dixon: compares Badnarik for Congress campaign, says that if the resolution should have every candidate that ran and didn’t deliver on their less than 20 seconds ago from web
Redpath read email from Verney about campaign that touts the Barr successes by the numbers. 1 minute ago from web
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none being paid. Claims Barr said something different on Colbert. Ruwart says otherwise, ditto Wrights. Go to the tape. less than 5 seconds ago from web
told Barr to not do WV suit. Tries to give credit to Cory for 45 states only. says LNC did not pay petitioners and isn’t aware of none less than a minute ago from web
Redpath asks about Verney strategy of Barr publicity only. Tries to deflect ballot access problems from Cory, calls it false, says he told 2 minutes ago from web
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Ryan moves. Hawkridge seconds. Ryan speaks to the motion, and separates Root from Barr: “2 different campaigns going on” less than a minute ago from web
If what Root said were true, it wouldn’t be “racist.” However, Obama is clearly not “dumb” in a conventional sense. (He’s too dumb to understand the Austrian theory of the business cycle, but not to do well as Harvard). Why would Root pretend that he is? Is it inconceivable to him that there could be a conventionally smart black man?
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short form: disappointed in campaigns, broken promises, bad expenses, no advertising, Snubgate, prior candidate diss on Colbert… half a minute ago from web
Root didn’t know that interview was being recorded?
Excerpt:
Root: And I’d be willing to bet every dime I have in the world, a million dollars I’ll put, I’ll put a million dollars cash on the factΓ’β¬β
Welch: This is on the recordΓ’β¬β
Root: Γ’β¬βthat my GPA was better than Barack’sΓ’β¬β
Welch: Oooooh.
Root: …and he got in based on the color of his skin.
http://www.reason.com/news/show/128461.html
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Ryan reading the resolution. 2 minutes ago from web
@LNC7 I need a copy of the Barr resolution. 2 minutes ago from web in reply to LNC7
Ryan on Barr resolution. Nolan impresses that it’s a draft and Root references could be removed. 3 minutes ago from web
Let me say this for Root, though: He does seem like a good family man.
pdsa – I agree with you. But you’re worried about subsidizing religious “education”? What you’re subsidizing now is just as bad. It teaches the cult of the omnipotent state. The religious issue is moot. The real issue is that ALL schools will become public schools if Root gets his way. And the state will have to exert more control over homeschooling, too.
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time up. Root done, applause, standing ovation, etc. break for 10 back at 10:40 AM local PST 3 minutes ago from web
10 min recess
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question about debate inclusion by sullentrop. Ryan points out that public enthusiasm and awareness is needed. half a minute ago from web
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question asked about early suits for debates. Root touts his role in the LV one. sullentrop mentions CPD litigations ongoing elsewhere. half a minute ago from web
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Jingo asks on list. Root says it’s printout only but they can have it if they want to retype it all half a minute ago from web
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BTW, there was a motion passed to extend before Lark asked. half a minute ago from web
G.E. – I’m pretty sure that Mrs. Root is responsible for their daughter’s education.
Vouchers as a fix for public schools is even less libertarian than the evil. I, who have chosen consciously to not procreate, would in effect be subsidising the education of other people’s children, not as a supposed contribution to a greater good for society as a whole, and often taught by religioous fanatics, whose faith I find to be personally reprehensible.
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Flood: how much spent: Root: 25-40K estimated. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Jingo: thanks Root for activity, asks for media contact list to hep the party. Root says yes, i think. half a minute ago from web
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I think a tweet got lost in the lag there… half a minute ago from web
Lark asks about a written report. Root says after the book comes out. less than a minute ago from web
Ruwart apparently voted against extending Root’s time. It was extended 10 min.
Root says he is not racist, claims he did not know Reason magazine was interviewing him – he thought it was just private conversation.
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Hawkridge thanks Root for the change, comments about getting it done on the ground, and thanks him for his effort.
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relays Barr message that he isn’t here to rebuild his law practice. half a minute ago from web
goes on about no campaign in NV, WY, MT, ID, calls swing state strategy bad while not saying it’s bad. less than a minute ago from web
Homeschooling does work, institutional schooling doesn’t. Especially public schooling, which is all there would be if W.A.R.’s welfare-voucher system were implemented. So much for this new “radical” side to Root.
Root wants vouchers for him own homeschool? The Wayne Root Academy? His daughter does seem like an exceptional young woman. How the hell that’s possible is beyond me.
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KEaton asks about Root not getting proper materials for the campaign. Root claims to be a team player, dodges the question. less than a minute ago from web
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Q&A Dixon asks about the campaign debt. Root claims ignorance, that his own reimbursement requests were “lost” as well. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Uses Mustang Ranch as a funny example of how government doesn’t work. 1 minute ago from web
touts government as the bailout cause. Calls for the Big 3 to go bankrupt and reorganize. 3 minutes ago from web
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complains on no workers/volunteers. He doesn’t seem to understand the size differences in sizes of the DP and LP. half a minute ago from web
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wants vouchers and competition, and promotes it as a good message. Also to kill the unions. half a minute ago from web
(aside, that’s damned impressive!) 1 minute ago from web
touts homeschooling as an avenue, and his daughter’s 2240/2400 SAT score w/ perfect 800 reading. 1 minute ago from web
Bragging on Dakota Root. Home schooling works.
Says McCain steals his lines
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ditto on organization and fund raising. Complains that Barr didn’t ask him to fundraise, calls it a blunder. 1 minute ago from web
Root says he was not allowed to fund raise by Barr campaign
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points out the obama robocalls and how he got the message out. implict message is that LP should do that too and didn’t. less than 20 seconds ago from web
claims he finally got out there and made breakthoughs with Paulites. Calls for money to win (duh!), goes back to Obama example. 1 minute ago from web
claims the campaign didn’t get the Paulites. also touted his media appearances as a “regular”. 3 minutes ago from web
touts upcoming book and tour. “Conscience of a Libertarian: empowering the revolution with god, guns, tax cuts, etc.” didn’t get it all 4 minutes ago from web
says he has a google alert on himself. 6 minutes ago from web
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says he has a google alert on himself. half a minute ago from web
namedropping half the people in the room for doing things. thanks them all 1 minute ago from web
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claims he had no part of the negatives of the campaign, and claims he was the hardest working VP candidate ever, and wanted to do more. less than a minute ago from web
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claims 1000 media appearances on the campaign. less than 10 seconds ago from web
talks about his “sacrifices” and says he’s here to stay. He want to be “our Obama” half a minute ago from web
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calls himself a face for the LP and libertarainism. less than 20 seconds ago from web
thinks he has won over Fox News because he’s gotten more and more time on them. half a minute ago from web
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rants on Obama and says he told us so, and he wants a fresh start, says he’s changed from the Republican Libertarian he was. half a minute ago from web
Root says he is a radical now
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Root: standing ovation. campaign discussion. less than a minute ago from web
time up. Here comes Root… 2 minutes ago from web
Damn that applause is loud
Root’s up
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Discussion of minutes distribution. 1 minute ago from web
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his way. less than a minute ago from web
Lark wants an executive summary of the minutes and action items to expedite matters. Sullentrop gets snippy about it, says he’ll do it his less than a minute ago from web
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Wrights asks if its offical. Colley says the contract is signed and done. Dixon asks if it needs formal LNC approval. less than a minute ago from web
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Secretary’s report: 2010 convention in St. Louis officially (?), touts STL. (He’s from there, ditto Knapp) 9 minutes ago from web
Confirmed convention will be in St Louis in 2010
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to have teleconference, despite the JudComm rules that they can. 8 minutes ago from web
Bennett asks about JudComm expenses, in anticipation of a Keaton appeal, cites Carling’s POV about JudComm not being able to 2 minutes ago from web
I did, I did taw a toilet! Back… π 4 minutes ago from web
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Party stalwart and champion of real freedom, BetteRose Ryan. She served many terms on the LNC. 4 minutes ago from web
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LPNV including Jim D and the adorable LibertarianGirl with a smashing new short sassy red do. LG works out like a fiend.Stunning. half a minute ago from web
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Many interesting folks in gallery: Mrs. David Nolan, Don Patterson, Allen Hacker, Goth God Gene Trosper, the lovely Carolyn Marby less than 5 seconds ago from web
Cannot really hear Starr’s report. Need to deal with right ear eventually. 1 minute ago from web
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Carling sitting with his man crush Holtz.. Correspond with an objectivist who has man crush on Holtz. Can’t bring myself to dislike Holtz. less than 20 seconds ago from web
VirtualGalt // Dec 6, 2008 at 1:28 pm
What is the cash on hand today?
3 card monte
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Might be good to have Donnelly, Seebeck, Montoni and some others do an online meeting review of Starr’s report. Still waiting on strip. less than a minute ago from web
What is the cash on hand today?
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BRB, Tweety tawt he taw a toilet….:) 1 minute ago from web
well renting office space is different then renting out a house or an apartment
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11 minutes left in the report. less than a minute ago from web
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Q&A on the spreadsheets. less than a minute ago from web
11:20paulie_cannoli:Watch the birdie, the hand is quicker than the eye
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All I know from being a landlord is that I record when I charge it and I record when I get it. half a minute ago from web
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Starr explains deferred rent, explains that it happens from variable rent levels averaging out over the term. accounting thing. half a minute ago from web
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losing power. Starr’s report is causing tension. Fox, CPA is waiting ask questions. 1 minute ago from web
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BTW, any noise on the feed, I apologize for, it’s a function of the fact there’s an open door behind me. less than a minute ago from web
Starr explains negative asset as a “contra-asset” that is because of the asset depreciation. I hope someone can explain it better than I. 1 minute ago from
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Kraus explains the steady asset level is based on a non-specific annual audit with no inventory tracking. 8 minutes ago from web
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Discussion. Over my head, so I can’t do it justice. less than a minute ago from web
11:03mdharris:I guarantee you everyone who sent Barr money is going to be getting a lot of “conservative” mailings as soon as Viguerie gets his hands on the Barr data
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Ruwart asks about negative surplus of 133K. Starr explains it. less than 10 seconds ago from web
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Statement of Assets. taking break, waiting for Kelly Barnes of LPC-SanBernCo to get power strip. half a minute ago from web
Key issues: budget, no ED, LP News goes quart, major service cuts, mission statement, barr resolution. 2 minutes ago from web
Starr is spinning Treas report. Ruwart prepares the serious questions. The is one of the key points. 3 minutes ago from web
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60K in red from ballot access costs. Wrights asks about the actual, which is now 42K in red, Jan a 28K influx from some estate. less than 5 seconds ago from web
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this is the treasurer’s report now. Missed the transition before the graph went up. less than a minute ago from web
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Starr is spinning Treas report. Ruwart prepares the serious questions. The is one of the key points. half a minute ago from web
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Haugh being noisy behind me. May cause audio problems. 1 minute ago from web
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Starr puts up budget graph and explains it. less than 20 seconds ago from web
sorry about any typos less than a minute ago from web
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delay of meeting.
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Nolan points out that never has a Pres candidate done this before of list sharing until conditions are met. less than a minute ago from web
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The Admiral is very concerned about… Posse Comit!? No way, a libertarian with a serious freedom concern. YESSSSS! half a minute ago from web
SEEBECK? Do you have an extention cord. Kraus spins Barr issue. 1 minute ago from web
Exec session not on the agenda but Redpath thinks there will be one. Room tenses. Dixon wants to know about data sharing and Prz campaign 2 minutes ago from web
Gura to be retained on suit. $ needed. Gura of Heller fame. 4 minutes ago
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Colley points out posse comatitus heritage, relates to a resolution coming up later that Austin drafted up. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Dixon asks about the sharing. Starr says past candidates did it, Barr hasn’t so far? (not sure if I heard right) 1 minute ago from web
Dixon comments that ES better follow the policy manual. Thanks to Steve Meier for putting that bug in his ear. 2 minutes ago from web
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Sullentrup is going on about the grandson of Robert’s Rules 36 minutes ago from web
No one knows I am wearing BTP thong 37 minutes ago from web
Sean Haugh speaks truth about the larger freedom movement. 38 minutes ago from web
Marshall Fritz–RIP 39 minutes ago from web
Crayzee Andy again 41 minutes ago from web
Rob Power –out reach to political left. 41 minutes ago from web
gallery member offers some basic gov texts for professors. 42 minutes ago from web
“Crayzee” Andy Jacob makes per usual Sean Haugh complaint. Haugh is about to burst out laughing. Read Knapp on this topic. 43 minutes ago from web
Temporary take over of this Twitter by A Keaton for LNC nonsense. 44 minutes ago from web
Keaton twiterring
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Gura to be retained on suit. $ needed. Gura of Heller fame. 1 minute ago from web
Verney claims that only he and Barr have the authority to share lists. They will not disclose until debt is paid. No list sharingby Barr. 2 minutes ago from web
Barr and list sharing? Redpath broughtit up with Cory and Verney but they did get back to him. 3 minutes ago from web
Redpath discusses his Senate race. 5 minutes ago from web
wrights adds 15 minutes to hall’s report 7 minutes ago from web
Props to Seebeck, Trosper and Holtz to cover story. Takenage is taking pics for Cal Freedom. Nice. 10 minutes ago from web
They refused to remove it from the agenda. The Discipline of Angela Keaton will follow Wayne Root. Root is my opening act. The absurdity. 13 minutes ago from web
Need to save power. 17 minutes ago from web
Ryan is annoyed that Barr is not here to speak. 18 minutes ago from web
Dixon wants to keep on the agenda. Ruwart, Hawkridge, speak for removal. 18 minutes ago from web
Ruwart speaks out in favor or removal from the 20 minutes ago from web
Wrights want to remove agenda item marked the “discipline of Angela Keaton” 23 minutes ago from web
Starr amendment fails. The Nolan’s statement stays. 24 minutes ago from web
Hawkridge: Barr’s debt. 25 minutes ago from web
Starr reads from policy manual and is very annoyed by the Barr resolution. The Barr resolution submited by Nolan. Ryan wants on the agenda. 25 minutes ago from web
Agenda adoption? 27 minutes ago from web
Hardy Macia’s resignation. Not been replaced. 32 minutes ago from web
Full house of LNC full reps. 33 minutes ago from web
Credentials. 33 minutes ago from web
Sullentrup is going on about the grandson of Robert’s Rules 35 minutes ago from web
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there we go. thanks to AW2 for the filler. Something about list sharing by Barr and Verney? half a minute ago from web
paulie, thanx on the “barr resolution.”
Barr will not decide on sharing campaign data w/ LP until campaign debt paid off
Chairs report
US Sen race VA
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passes without objection. time out. agenda adopted without objection. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Wrights requests Flood distribute. Kraus starts handing it out. Wrights moves to add 30 to counsel report, Ruwart seconds less than a minute ago from web
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move to after lunch. motion called passed, division called. wrights confused. clarified, then revoted, passed. less than 10 seconds ago from web
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Dixon mentions Hacker, who mentions dinenr w/ Ed Clark tonight. Starr motion to move after lunch, passed to sub. motion to move less than a minute ago from web
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extended 5 w/o objection. Ruwart points out budget will take over 2 hours, thinks it’s more important. Starr disagrees. half a minute ago from web
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lack of time. Dixon supports. Flood supports. Starr wants to move it to after lunch (which is not on the agenda). Sub motion. Time out half a minute ago from web
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Lark: moves to move Keaton item to after budget. seconded but objected. Lark thinks budget is more important. Wrights doesn’t like lack 1 minute ago from web
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vote to remove the item, majority, ayes 5 nay rest, fails. half a minute ago from web
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Wrights calls the question of Ruwart to remove the discipline resolution. 2/3 vote needed from objection. ayes 13 nay 4, passes less than 20 seconds ago from web
Calling the question
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Wrights asks for clarification, Redpath testy. Wrigths was the extend motion. Vote: passes, extend 5 half a minute ago from web
Ryan: couldn’t make him out, but I think it was about the Barr people not being here, Time expires. Motiion to extend 5, objected. 1 minute ago from web
Tom,
I think what is being referred to as the Barr resolution is the one to suspend Redpath. Asked at jtv.
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not last minute. Hawkridge points out the difference in size and lack of Flood distribution. Starr still complains about lack of notice. less than 10 seconds ago from web
Starr complains about Barr resolution notice vs. Keaton notice and resolution. Keaton replies Barr res was submitted 9 days ago and not less than a minute ago from web
TLK passed your Q along at
http://www.justin.tv/tannim123
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Ruwart also concerned about severity, adversarial process, wants some mediation instead. half a minute ago from web
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discussion, objections to removal, starr. Ruwart wants it off, as expected, because of charges not given, no chance to review. half a minute ago from web
Anyone got any info on this Barr resolution? Content? Did I miss it on IPR?
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wrights moves to remove keaton discipline item, waste of time. Multiple seconds. less than a minute ago from web
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vote to remove: aye 5 nay 12, fails half a minute ago from web
.. is over. Dixon wants it left on. Hawkridge agrees, because of debt and Barr is still acting as spokesperson. less than a minute ago from web
A/V is verry spotty but it is also being recorded separately for later. We’ll have all we can get.
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Starr rambles the Bylaws and complains about the Barr resolution and wants it removed. Ryan seconds a motion to remove since the campaign.. less than 20 seconds ago from web
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Here we go: agenda: Karlan wants to amend to cut time on policy manual for other stuff. half a minute ago from web
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various LPWA donations as well half a minute ago from web
conflict of interest reporting. Hawkridge reports on LPWA fundraising and a non-profit, report to be given later in writing. less than a minute ago from web
Call for conflict of interest disclosures
Seebeck: Takenaga is doing some still snapshots at times.
Seebeck: guest call. yes, Root is here. ditto hacker, Mattson, and the folks I mentioned earlier. less than 5 seconds ago from web
Seeebeck: Roll Call. All the gang is here. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Seebeck: Ruwart raises Keaton question on Flood’s docs not being included. Flood says he’ll have copies available. He made them last night. less than 20 seconds ago from web
Seebeck: Creds Report.yada yada half a minute ago from web
Seebeck: Sean Haugh expressing hope for unity, working together, etc. less than a minute ago from web
Seebeck: Richard Newshouse, LPOC, mentions a college govt book available. Rob Power wants oversight on Staff to outreach left as well as right. 3 minutes ago
Seebeck: The Nolan asking for time to speak on his motion later. regards the mission statement. Wrights comments that no MA sigs were destroyred. less than a minute ago from web
Lark wants to recognize Fritz. applause. half a minute ago from web
Seebeck: Andy again, wanting credit Paulie for candidate web stuff less than a minute ago from web
Seebeck: moment of silence past, public comments. Taka starts with the host welcome speech. 10 minutes ago from web
Andy Jacobs brings up the MA petition burning. Starting up with a bang. 3 minutes ago from web
Andy brings up Massachusetts Burning
Takenaga welcomes LNC to San Diego
Opportunity for public comment
10:07paulie_cannoli:If anyone is good at drawing…liberty spanking justice
10:07paulie_cannoli:Or the other way around
Seebeck: The Berdoo Posse is HERE! Barnes & Barnes, Marbury, McMahon… 3 minutes ago from web
Seebeck: The Keaton is wearing the “Peace dress” 2 minutes ago from web
From Seebeck Twittage:
the keaton has arrived! 2 minutes ago from web
The sign was Trosper LOL 11 minutes ago from web
People filing in. Seen in the crowd: BetteRose Ryan, M Calring, Brain Holtz, Rob Power, Ruth Bennett, Gene Trosper. 13 minutes ago from web
We be up. Connection may be spotty, had trouble getting it going. 17 minutes
TheOriginalAndy is there
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