July 4th, 2009: National protest to register independent

The initiator of this project is “ReTeaParty“, a project of The Political Exploration and Awareness Committee PAC (“PEAC”), a non-partisan group. PEAC’s web site states that they are “a political action committee that campaigns on behalf of issues, candidates, and potential candidates that promote honesty and Constitutional leadership.”

from the ReTea Party.com website:
ReTeaParty.com Coordinates With Free and Equal

ReTeaParty.com announces that FreeandEqual.org will be joining us in our fight to coordinate a nationwide protest on July 4, 2009. FreeandEqual.org is a nonpartisan organization that has been instrumental in obtaining ballot access, providing legal assistance, and promoting awareness of candidates of all parties as well as independents. On the anniversary of our independence, together, we will be asking Americans across the country to stand up and re-declare their independence from political favoritism and partisan politics.

Many of us have chosen to register as Democrats. Many as Republican. Others as one of the third parties or not at all. On July 4th, 2009, we will be re-declaring our independence by registering as Independent, Non-Partisan, or Unaffiliated Americans.

Stay tuned as ReTeaParty.com will soon unveil a new interactive website so that individuals like you can take charge of your local event coordination. Let’s stop looking to Washington DC and partisan political players to save our freedoms. More than anyone else in the world, Americans independently understand the principles of self-responsibility and respect for individual rights. On July 4th, 2009, let’s re-declare them.

Will you Join Us?

30 thoughts on “July 4th, 2009: National protest to register independent

  1. Christopher S. Thrasher

    I for one think this is an excellent idea.

    The tea parties that are out there now seem to be very republican in nature, and they are turning off vast amounts of people who otherwise would agree with an anti-bailout message.

    We have a once in a lifetime opportunity. Both the activist left and the activist right are pissed off at the same thing: Wall Street & Big Business Bailouts.

    If the tea parties are going to accomplish anything, they must be open to all critics of the bailouts, not just the extreme right.

    so, just out of curiosity, why does this sound like a bad idea to you trent?

  2. Michael Seebeck

    I agree with Trent, and my reason is simple: no third party is guilty of any role in this mess, and we should not be punished for that by people refusing to join us. In fact, independents are more culpable than third parties because of the presences of Sanders and Lieberman who both facilitated the mess by their actions in the Senate. Plus, independents have little to no voice in anything, even less so than third parties.

    I don’t mind these folks jumping off the major-party Kool-Aid wagon, but jumping off the political party wagon completely is throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

  3. Trent Hill

    1.) Discouraging people from registering into Third Parties or Major Parties. Third Parties need a certain amount of registered voters in some states in order to exist. In many states, Independents cannot vote in ANY primary–but they COULD vote in a primary if they were a member of a major party.
    2.) Waste of time. This does not really accomplish anything significant.
    3.) The people running ReTeaParty are PEAC-PAC, and they’re Ron Paulers, they’re currently encouraging Peter Schiff and Rand Paul to run for Senate in CT and KY, respectively. They’re a Republican pressure group, basically, so it looks bad to encourage people to register independent.
    4.) Free And Equal is supposed to fight for better ballot access laws for third parties and independents. Meanwhile, they’ve betrayed their followers and donators by encouraging people to register independent, obviously showing a bias towards independents.

    And of course you think it’s a good idea–you’re a spokesperson for Free and Equal, are you not?

  4. Trent Hill

    Free and Equal has been give $25,000 by its donors. It is my hope that they will accomplisah something significant with this money–money Richard Winger could’ve used to break several bad ballot-access laws wide open. So lets hope it wasnt a waste.

  5. William Mize

    Wow.
    Such, such, SUCH a bad idea.
    Michael said it much better than I ever could.
    I don’t mind them encouraging Dems and Repubs to jump off the major party bandwagon and expand their horizons, but to include Greens, Libs, and other third parties is inviting them to cut their own throats by giving them a shiny new knife.

  6. Steven R Linnabary

    I’ve got to wait and see what Christina Tobin’s rationale is for this. And I do respect her opinion.

    But I have to agree with Trent that this seems bass ackwards. Tea Partiers should be encouraged to enlist in the opposition parties, rather than no party.

    PEACE

  7. Chad

    Everyone complains about political parties and political favoritism.

    The original Boston Tea Party was a reaction to the British crown lowering taxes to political favorites, leaving the average politically unrepresented merchant unable to compete.

    The Democratic Party and the Republican Party have been equally to blame in playing political favoritism to big business, whether its in the banking industry, energy, health/drug, military, agriculture, etc…

    Everyday Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, Constitution, etc…, while you may agree or disagree with their political ideologies, are not represented, have not been complicit, and thus cannot be blamed for our problems.

    So, do they not have a right to protest their lack of representation? With the Democratic and Republican party every decision that affects our lives and this country, should we not be encouraging people to stop following the Republican and Democratic party line, responsible for our current state of massive government and record defecits? Should we not encourage people to re-evaluate their own convictions and decide to follow their own opinions over partisan talking point?

  8. Christopher S. Thrasher

    Trent @ 4

    1. When you’re right, you’re right. The statements about re-registering as independents overshadowed the main point of this protest: to come together as a truly non-partisan entity to protest the madness of our current government. We have changed the statement to read:

    ” On July 4th, 2009, we will be re-declaring our independence by registering as Independent, Non-Partisan, Unaffiliated, or into a party that is more representative of our independent political tendencies.”

    2. A nationwide protest that combines the activist power of the left and the right would be a huge event, with national media attention.

    3. PEAC-PAC is not at all a “Republican pressure group”. They are dedicated to making this July 4th Tea Party a truly non partisan event, regardless of their other work.

    4 & @ 5: Free & Equal is dedicated to reforming ballot access laws across the nation, and to easing restrictions for ALL candidates, regardless of affiliation.

    We are working on a number of different projects right now, and if you think that the tea party is all we are involved in, you are mistaken. In fact, the tea party is the project I have spent the least amount of time on, and we have used no donated money what so ever on it (nor will we, internet organizing is pretty cheap!)

    In the coming months you well begin to see the fruits of our labors regarding ballot access, including the announcement of a major election reform conference, bringing together several different election reform groups. I encourage you to stay tuned.

  9. Chad

    Paulie…sorry didn’t see Trent’s other post…so here:

    1) Agree, but the message should be for people to think independently of any party, whatever it is.

    2) Disagree, if hundreds of thousands of Americans change their registration it is a significant statement to their former political parties that they must be accountable to their members, and not visa versa.

    3) The people running ReTeaParty have their own political tendencies. If you don’t have your own political leanings, you don’t think independently. What looks bad about them asking people to register as Independent? How are they a Republican pressure group…because their candidates happen to actually believe in parts of the Republican rhetoric like consitutional government that the Republican party ignores?

    4) People registering Independent could only help third parties, it encourages them to think outside their party line.

    Also, some of the concerns have been addressed. The second paragraph is revised:

    “Many of us have chosen to register as Democrats. Many as Republican. Others as one of the third parties or not at all. On July 4th, 2009, we will be re-declaring our independence by registering as Independent, Non-Partisan, Unaffiliated, or into a party that is more representative of our independent political tendencies.”

  10. paulie

    We have changed the statement to read:

    ” On July 4th, 2009, we will be re-declaring our independence by registering as Independent, Non-Partisan, Unaffiliated, or into a party that is more representative of our independent political tendencies.”

    Yes, that’s better.

    A nationwide protest that combines the activist power of the left and the right would be a huge event, with national media attention.

    Good point.

  11. citizen1

    Register as anything but a Republican or Democrat. Although I am still a registered Republican since the Presidential primary when I registered to vote for Ron Paul. If you live in a state where registration totals mean something definitely register with the party that is closest to your positions.

  12. Trent Hill

    “PEAC-PAC is not at all a “Republican pressure group”. They are dedicated to making this July 4th Tea Party a truly non partisan event, regardless of their other work. ”

    PEAC-PAC was formed by Ron Paul Republican activists. Thus far, their efforts involve encouraging Peter Schiff to run for Senate (as a Republican), encouraging Rand Paul to run for Senate (as a Republican), encouraging Judge Napolitano, a Republican, to run for office, and the Reteaparty effort, which is dominated by Republican activists and organizations.

    I’d say that while you may be nominally non-partisan, you are a Republican pressure group. Not that I have a problem with that, I’m a donator to PEAC-PAC,afterall.

  13. Trent Hill

    “4) People registering Independent could only help third parties, it encourages them to think outside their party line.”

    I am not concerned about the benefits to third parties–but about actually accomplishing the agenda those people seek. They can best accomplish it not by registering as independents, or even by moving out of the major parties. Stick to the revision, which suggests that “thinking independently” is the best thing.

  14. Trent Hill

    “2) Disagree, if hundreds of thousands of Americans change their registration it is a significant statement to their former political parties that they must be accountable to their members, and not visa versa.”

    If they register into another party–how would that make their fromer party accountable at all? The best way to “make them accountable” would be to lobby party leaders from inside the party.

  15. mdh

    Well, it’s a free market theory thing. Don’t like the two major parties? Get with a different one. When enough people do this, the major parties would eventually fail. That’s how the free market is supposed to work.

  16. Michael Seebeck

    4) People registering Independent could only help third parties, it encourages them to think outside their party line.

    That statement is self-contradicting.

    Only registering third-party can help third parties, and even then only the one registered for.

    Thinking outside the party line does not help third parties.

    Equating third-parties and independents in terms of registering to vote makes no sense.

    They need to change it to simply suggest changing registration from D/R to something/anything else.

  17. Tomcat

    Something to think about here for a second. Some states don’t HAVE party registration. I walk in during a primary and am asked if I want a democrat or republican ballot (assuming no third party primaries are occuring…don’t really remember any) and vote. This happens in every primary.

    I’m not certain, but I suspect that Georgia isn’t alone on this one. Here, you just register to vote. Which ballot you vote on is your choice each and every time. So, my question is, how would someone in a state like Georgia make this statement? The state parties wouldn’t feel anything, and the impact nationally would be reduced.

    Since I encourage people to look at third parties in almost every instance I can, I’m glad the language was changed. The new wording encourages independent thought and possibly third party affiliation, without ruling anyone out.

  18. Kimberly Wilder Post author

    I agree with some of the concerns about this project.

    I am not sure that it is the best strategy to tell everyone to un-register in their parties.

    But, I was trying to think if this suggested action had value as an action, or even as a “message”.

    Perhaps putting this idea out might just make people THINK about if they should be loyal to their parties, if their parties do not serve them. So, the message of this could cause people stuck in bad parties to either kick in and take action in their party, or bail ship from a bad party.

    Also…I was wondering if it could be this complicated a strategy…most people enrolled in parties are enrolled in the Democrat or Republican parties. But, if you sent a message to quit those two, it offends Dems and Reps. And, it is the same message a lot of us have been putting out without any tidal wave affect.

    But, if you put the message out to un-enroll in your party in general, it would cause more defections overall from the Dems and Reps. Which would dwindle “the nemesis” of the third parties.

    Also, I was wondering if someone did research and studied patterns of enrollment. Perhaps it is easier to get people to go “Major Party”, “independent”, “third party”….than to get them to go straight from a major party to a third party. Perhaps these folks are thinking it is a good time to shake things out and get people open so that when the next great third party or third party candidate comes along, they will be independent and thus ripe for the recruiting?

    Not sure about all this.

    But, again, I think the message I would choose would NOT be this message to just go blank.

    But, I can think of a lot of positive changes and dialogues that this action could initiate.

    And, it does feel “safer” that they are encouraging people to dive into a pool of independence, instead of steering people to a certain non-profit, party, or structure where it would be easy for them to reap the profits in terms of voter numbers of dollars. This is definitely an interesting concept to tell people to just: Free yourself!

  19. paulie

    Tomcat,

    Not sure why, but akismet is putting a lot of your comments into spam. i’ve been pulling them out of the spam folder.

  20. Gary Fincher

    This is not only very poorly written (it’s basically a red-herring thrown out to throw people off the track of the REAL problem) but it’s written by a criminal who has committed election law fraud time and time again, and is actually currently the defrocked political director of a minor U.S. political party. He is actually wanted in Massachusetts for attempted theft related to election law scams:

    http://libertycrusader.wordpress.com/political-consulting/prosecuting-enemies-of-liberty-spotlight-on-sean-haugh/

    The link:

    http://reteaparty.com/2009/04/17/what-tea-parties-are-and-are-not/comment-page-1/#comment-28352

  21. Tomcat

    Paulie,

    I missed your comment earlier. I have no idea why they’re going there, but it may have had something to do with my email address (it’s been flagged before as invalid even though it’s good). I appreciate you pulling them out for me 😉

  22. marjon

    What does ‘independent’ mean? Politicians look at voter registration at least 4 times a year. If they see a shift to ‘I’ what does that tell them? If they see a shift to ‘Libertarian’ or ‘Green’ or ‘Constitution’ or ‘Socialist’ parties, they have an idea of what they have to do to get your vote.

  23. diducthat

    I’m not a grossly educated political…anything. I’m a registered Independent, but am finding that harder and harder to admit. I may be ignorant to a lot of the political CIRCUS (let’s face it, that’s what it has turned into. A ring for every party.), but I’m not stupid and I’m tired of our governement treating me like I am.
    So call yourself left wing, right wing, democrat, republican, whatever. The simple truth, and go out on the streets and talk to THE PEOPLE of THIS country face to face and you’ll see what I mean, is that this country’s government is… 1. a joke to everyone world-wide. 2. non-supported by the general public in America itself and non-supporting of the general American public. 3. irresponsible with just about every responsibility handed them. 4. grossly neglegant with it’s spending (over a billion dollars on salaries of our top leaders alone, a year!) 5. deaf to the American people and blind to our constitution. (Just to name a few!)
    I put my life, my family’s lives, our home, our careers, our taxes, our finances, our property and our rights in the hands of these people trusting that they know a little more than I do. I believe I was wrong. I believe THEY are wrong.
    I love this country. Nearly every member of my family fought to protect it, and a some still are, so I fly my flag to support them, but I feel it necessary to explain to my neighbors that I fly it to honor THOSE faithful individuals and NOT because I believe in the government that leads them. I should not have to feel obligated to explain that to anyone, but I do!
    How can the Pursuit of Happiness possibly still be included in our doctrine when it is so clearly not represented in our government? Has everyone lost their minds? What is going on is not ok! People are losing their homes and jobs and financial holdings in record numbers, so we can spend 1.8 million to figure out how to fight the odor of pigs? Use some noseplugs and air freshener. Problem solved! Now feed some hungry children for Christ’s sake!
    Want to fix Welfare? Give it to Americans, REAL Americans IN NEED! How many billions would that be? Want to send the illegals home, cut ’em off! No more free dollars, no more free healthcare, no more jobs. A dog won’t stay if you don’t feed him. Want to get rid of the greed in government, drop their salaries down to minimum wage. Two weeks vacation a year and buy your own healthcare like the rest of us. This isn’t rocket science people.
    As I’ve said, I’m ignorant to a lot of things, but sometimes the best way to change for the best is to start all over again. If you try building a roof on a building with a weak foundation…. You’ll have to start all over from the very beginning. Maybe that’s what we need to do.

  24. Third Party Revolution

    Maybe it would be a better idea to just change you affiliation from a major party to an independent or third party. Third Parties and independents both have the same problems.

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