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  1. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp July 19, 2011


    The “tens of millions of views” thing isn’t a direct reference to Snopes by Root, I don’t think. He generally claims that “millions” of people read his tripe via Newsmax.

    His references to Snopes have been to the effect that since Snopes classified the rumor that Columbia as one of the top “Internet urban legends,” and since Snopes cited his article as one version of said legend, Snopes was therefore claiming that his article was one of the “most popular articles” on the Internet.

    When shocking naivete and pathological dishonesty overlap to the degree that they do in Root, it sometimes gets too complicated to be worth trying to untangle.

  2. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 19, 2011

    Okay, I admit curiosity got the best of me, and I checked out Snopes and their comments on WAR. I don’t get where he got the impression that he’s had “tens of millions” views from them, however. I doubt if I’ll lose any sleep over it, though.

  3. wolfefan wolfefan July 19, 2011

    Hi Jill @22 –

    Fair enough. FWIW, they nailed it on the Root piece. I know that for some people there is no such thing as bad publicity, but to boast that Snopes has called you out raises red flags for me.

  4. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 19, 2011

    wolfefan @ 20: I don’t really have anything against Snopes because I do my own research. I don’t have any examples because I haven’t read their reports for years. I just don’t happen to consider them a reliable source.

  5. George Phillies George Phillies July 19, 2011

    Unremitting bullroar.

    The point where Root gives the impression of complaining that Obama has not prosecuted that war on drugs adequately vigorously is of some note.

    Complaining about teen pregnancies. and then indicating that he does not support abortion choice is amusing.

    Blaming Obama for California finances, which were run by Republican Governor Schwarzenegger through recent years, was bizarre.

    However, with apologies to the Capital Steps, a tune comes to mind, to the tune of part of the battle hymn of the Republic

    Glory, glory paranoia!
    Glory, glory paranoia!
    Obamunism will destroy ya,
    They hear it in their head.

    This was an amazing collation of right wing nonsense, factoids having nothing to do with President Obama, hysteria….

    but there was one good part.

    Only once (our former candidate) did ‘Libertarian’ get dragged through this cesspool.

    Nor was there any hint of Libertarian solutions. It was all rantings from the fever swamp of teatardism.

  6. wolfefan wolfefan July 19, 2011

    Hi Jill –

    What do you have against Snopes? They don’t claim to be experts on anything – they just research urban legends that get passed around on the internet and document their findings. Sometimes stuff is a close call, certainly, but I think they do a very good job overall and their conclusions are well documented. I think George’s reference to “imbecilic nonsense” is not to Snopes itself but to the things they debunk including some of Wayne’s claims (feel free to correct me if I am wrong, George.) Do you have a particular example of something they’ve published that’s incorrect or unfair in your opinion?

  7. Why Wayne Allyn Root Lies Why Wayne Allyn Root Lies July 19, 2011

    Jill: “[Root] throws out outrageous, unbelievable statements, then doesn’t do anything to back them up.

    There’s a common theory that many people will believe a lie, if it’s repeated often enough.

    Root is media savvy enough to know how to manipulate the media.

    Like any media savvy politician or pundit, Root never apologizes. Never admits a mistake. He spews lies, and if caught, ignores it and moves on to his next sound bite/lie.

    Talk radio pundits — left and right — do it all the time. Rush is never held accountable by his fans. Instead, his fans simply disregard Rush’s detractors as “a bunch of America-hating leftists” (i.e., people who should be ignored).

    I suppose Root likewise hopes to build a blind fan base who’ll ignore his missteps, and focus only on his robotic Obama-bashing.

  8. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 19, 2011

    Although Bruce wrote the “tens of millions” in this article, I’ve heard and read Wayne saying this type of thing. This is exactly why so many of us consider him a comical character. He throws out outrageous, unbelievable statements, then doesn’t do anything to back them up.

  9. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 19, 2011

    Someone I know researched Snopes. It’s a progressive husband-and-wife team who started it. They have no particular background or education to be “experts” on anything.

    George is right: “imbecilic nonsense”.

  10. George Phillies George Phillies July 19, 2011

    referring to something he said last year, he appears to say

    “#4 on the internet according to”

    Snopes dot com is a catalog of imbecilic nonsense found on the internet.

    The difficulty that the recession happened under Bush seems to be being skipped.

    The monotribe goes on for 16 minutes.

  11. wolfefan wolfefan July 19, 2011

    Hi Bruce – can you link to the exact commentary you are referring to?

  12. O’Baracky would hate for Wayne “Gluten Free” Root to win the LP nomination!!! It would mean the Lipitor-ians would steal less votes from the Rudy-publicans, and therefore increase Michele Bachmann’s chance of getting more than 30% of the popular vote! He’s rooting for Roy Moore and the Constitution “Tinfoil hat” Party will go big! The LP is dead unless it co-elects Alan Keyes who stands for it’s same anti-Christian, pro-Quranic homosexuality and lesbianism. Alan Keyes is a much better Islamicist and homosexual lover than Wayne Root, and that’s why you Liber-sexuals need him! ALAN KEYES- LIBERTARIAN FOR PRESIDENT 2012!

  13. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp July 18, 2011

    I don’t think that the “viral” reference is to a video, but to one of Root’s columns that Snopes classified, at least for awhile, as an example of one of the most pervasive urban legends son the Internet (that maybe Obama didn’t go to Columbia, etc.).

    Of course, Root pretended that that meant that the column was one of the most popular articles on the Internet.

  14. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 18, 2011

    In re-reading Bruce’s intro to the article, he seems to be saying that the commentary that this video is based on had tens of millions of readers. That still seems like a whole lot of people, though. If it’s true, can we expect many of the readers to join the Libertarian party?

  15. Darryl W. Perry Darryl W. Perry July 18, 2011

    IF you total the 10k & 20k from separate videos, it MAY total millions, then add the viewership & listenership of ALL of Root’s media appearances, THEN you MAY get an amount of 10’s of millions…

  16. Deran Deran July 18, 2011

    No matter how you search, there are no Root videos that were seen by 10s of millions. There are a couple from ’08 with between 10k and 20k. If Rootageddon’s people have other metrics, it would be interesting to see them.

    Root has none of the presence of Ron Paul. And Root really plays the neo-con lite card a lot, I can’t see how he’s liable to help the LP. Unless the LP could get a written guarantee that he’ll spend millions on any campaign.

  17. Jill Pyeatt Jill Pyeatt July 18, 2011

    The video that Steven posted in #1 appears to have been disabled.

  18. Tom Blanton Tom Blanton July 18, 2011

    Apparently, Bruce Cohen and Wayne Root define “viral” differently from most people. I notice that the five other Root videos listed on the linked page show 14 to 37 views each. So, in Wayne’s World, 303 is viral!

    Frankly, I find Republicans babbling about their meth-induced paranoid fears to be quite scary – especially when they claim to be libertarians as they rant about “Obamageddon.”

    It’s all simply frightening.

  19. Nicholas Sarwark Nicholas Sarwark July 18, 2011

    Looks like 303 views to me, for the video. Guess it has a way to go to catch up to the original commentary…

  20. Robert Capozzi Robert Capozzi July 18, 2011

    1 srl, hmm, dunno. Palin just did a documentary and bus tour, but I certainly think it’s possible she won’t run. Gingrich is sort of running, but one gets the sense he does so to boost his exposure.

    We’ll see. I think he wants Obama out more than anything.

  21. Robert Capozzi Robert Capozzi July 18, 2011

    2 EM, only those two options…really? I can think of many, many more.

  22. Exagerate Much? Exagerate Much? July 18, 2011

    Tens of millions?

    Yet there are no tens of millions of new LP members. Not even millions. Not even tens of thousands.

    This means that either…

    1. Root’s video did not go viral, or

    2. It did, and most Americans were disgusted at the sight of Root.

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