No one votes in favor of rescinding Bill Weld’s VP nomination during LNC meeting in Orlando, FL on May 30th

The following is from a June 9th, 2016 email from Libertarian National Committee (LNC) Secretary Alicia Mattson (via American Third Party Report):

Any corrections for the minutes are due to me by June 23.

Please make sure that I have not erroneously listed any attendees in the absentee section.  I took attendance by looking around the room, and I do not yet know all of the new faces, so it’s quite possible I missed someone who was actually present.

For those of you new to the LNC this term, last term I started playing a brownie point game in which I award points for various things such as catching mistakes/typos in my minutes, demonstrating nuanced knowledge of our rules, amusing the Secretary, etc.  The rules and point awards will be arbitrary and subject to my whims.  To encourage the LNC to actually read the minutes, I often include a “Waldo” in the first draft of the minutes (but not EC minutes because there’s no revision cycle in that auto-approval process).  The first person to find Waldo and email me about it gets a brownie point.  What’s a Waldo?  You’ll know it when you read it.  Waldo is removed before the final version is approved.


Arvin  Vohra, LNC vice-chair, submitted a motion to rescind the nomination of William Weld for vice-president, citing a “Facebook post made by Alicia Dearn about the reasons for her actions concerning the Vice Presidential nomination.” LNC members voted on the motion as follows:

Voting “aye”: (none)

Voting “no”: Bedwell, Bittner, Demarest, Goldstein, Harlos, Hayes, Hewitt, Lark, Marsh, Mattson, McKnight, Redpath, Sarwark, Vohra

Abstaining: Starchild

The motion was not adopted with a vote total of 0-14.

The full draft minutes are below:

2016_05_30 LNC Minutes – v1

17 thoughts on “No one votes in favor of rescinding Bill Weld’s VP nomination during LNC meeting in Orlando, FL on May 30th

  1. George Phillies

    Vohra in making the motion said he was acting at the request of a state party affiliate that is not in a Region. By tradition, the Vice Chair brings material from unaffiliated states to the LNC. I am not sure which one.

  2. George Phillies

    The states not in a Region are Idaho, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and South Dakota.

  3. Stewart Flood

    South Carolina. It was not at the request of the state party, but it did come from one of our delegates.

  4. Mark Axinn

    Waste of time and counter-productive.

    Having lost the fight to nominate a Libertarian instead of Bill Weld, it is time to put that behind us and support the ticket.

    The alternative is to sit is out, which many die-hards may choose to do (as is their absolute right to do), but to call for a vote to un-endorse the victor of the convention nominating process achieves nothing and could hurt the Party.

    Internal disputes should remain internal. It is important to put on a united face to the public, even if it is not entirely the one which some may have preferred.

  5. Catherine Petro

    Not surprising. No one rational would vote in favor or shooting the party in the foot like that. The Democrats and the Republicans are severely fractured right now. Third Parties need to appear more united and rational if they want to take advantage of the historic moment.

  6. Starchild

    As I understood it from one LP member and delegate who was present at the LNC meeting and wanted the issue raised, there were procedural concerns about the convention’s vote for vice president, relating to the candidacy of Alicia Dearn. Unfortunately Dearn was not present and could not immediately be located to speak to these concerns.

    Any such procedural concerns ideally should have been raised at the time on the convention floor, but it is possible that relevant details were not discovered until later. While I am not sure without consulting the bylaws that the LNC has the power to overrule the convention delegates after the fact even in a case where it turned out that an improper voting process occurred, and I would be extremely reluctant to take such action even regarding a nominee I did not support, I also think that we ought to take any concerns over process seriously, and that the issue deserved more careful consideration than the “designed-to-fail” motion to simply rescind the nomination that was offered.

    Not having enough information about the matter at the time it came up, I felt I had no choice but to abstain.

    Thank you to IPR’s Krzysztof Lesiak for covering this issue and helping LP members be informed about what the party’s governing body is doing.

    Love & Liberty,
    ((( starchild )))
    At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee (2016-2018)
    (415) 625-FREE

  7. Tony From Long Island

    I thought Paul Stanley from KISS was the Starchild……

    Anyway, this was the right move, although kind of a waste of time.

  8. natural born American

    Did the Secretary just say there that she intentionally puts false information in the minutes?

    Perhaps someone should rescind her election!

  9. George Phillies

    “LNC has the power to overrule the convention delegates” and remove a candidate President or Vice President. This is at least the second time in party history that such a vote has occurred.

    LNC members: You are taking a break from July to the end of November. Why not, this time, sit down and read our bylaws. twice.

  10. Stewart Flood


    Section 9
    2. The subject matter jurisdiction of the Judicial Committee is limited to consideration of only those matters expressly identified as follows:
    a. suspension of affiliate parties (Article 6, Section 6),
    b. suspension of officers (Article 7, Section 7),
    c. suspension of National Committee members-at-large (Article 8, Section 5),
    d. voiding of National Committee decisions (Article 8, Section 12),
    e. challenges to platform planks (Rule 5, Section 7),
    f. challenges to Resolutions (Rule 6, Section 2), and
    g. suspension of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates (Article 15, Section 5).

    Section 15
    5. A candidate’s nomination may be suspended by a 3/4 vote of the entire membership of the
    National Committee at a meeting. That candidate’s nomination shall then be declared null and void unless the suspended candidate appeals the suspension to the Judicial Committee within seven days of receipt of notification of suspension. The resolution of suspension must state the specific reasons for suspension and must be signed by each member of the National Committee agreeing thereto. The Judicial Committee shall meet and act on this appeal within 30 days and before the election.

    The LNC does have the authority to suspend a candidate’s nomination. It is subject to appeal to the JC by the candidate.

  11. Stewart Flood

    Which is why I advised the delegate who asked me about removing Weld that the only path he could take would be a vote of the LNC to suspend for cause.

    A) I did not expect the delegate would actually contact the vice-chair, but he did.
    B) I did not expect the vice-chair to make the motion, but he did.
    C) The outcome of the motion was exactly what I would have expected, as I advised the delegate when I told him what “could” be done.

  12. Wes Wagner

    Who even seconded it so that it received consideration? This would have been one of those motions that it would be preferable after the vice-chair put it forward it died for a lack of a second.

  13. natural born American

    I’m not clear on why it would be preferable to *not* consider suspending a gungrabbing warmonger Bush/Clinton crony. What would be preferable would be to give him the boot!

  14. Stewart Flood

    Most of the LNC were wearing Johnson/Weld shirts. A super-majority of the board are brain washed and bleached supporters.

  15. Jim F

    There was concern that Alicia Dearn was strong armed into endorsing Weld. I have no reason to believe otherwise, even if Alicia states she wasn’t what she did state happened appears to be nothing but. The truth is it probably didn’t matter. Her “endorsment” was so bad, that he even refused to simply say “I will not betray you” and the majority of delegates supported him anyway, so there is no concern with that. I am more concerned of strories I have heard amongst folks in the Maine delegation including “professional delegate” being seated.

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