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David Nolan at Libertarian Party blog: ‘An evening with JD Hayworth’

David Nolan at Libertarian Party blog:

David Nolan cactusLast night I attended a rally for J.D. Hayworth, the right-wing Republican challenger to John McCain. I did so only because I was invited by his Southern Arizona Coordinator, and I wanted to see what kind of support he’s drawing, what their issues are, and so forth.

I said nothing during the meeting, and almost nobody there knew that I am the Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate.

It was an interesting experience. There were about 120-150 people at last night’s event: overwhelmingly white, average age 60+, and (judging from their attire) mostly middle class.

Hayworth is a dynamic speaker, who clearly loves talking to a crowd.  He spoke for about an hour, and covered the topics you’d expect: taxes, employment, etc.   He devoted the bulk of his remarks to explaining how he’s much tougher on “closing the border” than John McCain. He mentioned the Constitution frequently.

This was followed by a Q&A period. The first question was about repealing Obamacare. There were several about border-related issues, taxes, and out-of-control government. Nobody brought up Iraq/Afghanistan. Near the end, someone asked about “the mosque.” Hayworth was agin’ it, and the crowd was with him. Much hooting and cries of “Amen.” But interestingly, Hayworth did not address the subject in his initial talk, and it was almost the last question asked. At least in Southern Arizona, although most conservative voters feel strongly about “the mosque,” it’s nowhere near the top of their list of concerns. Nor should it be; we’re 2,200 miles away and people are more concerned with economic issues: jobs, taxes, and overbearing government. Plus, of course, issues related to the border with Mexico.

Southern Arizona is not typical of the whole USA. We’re on the border with Mexico, and there are a lot of retirees here, most of whom tend to be socially conservative. The group at Hayworth’s meeting was almost entirely conservative, so their concerns and feelings are not representative of the whole state, or even of relatively liberal Tucson. They’re CONSERVATIVES, dad-gummit, and proud of it!

I’m glad I went to the meeting. Although several of the Hayworth campaign’s top people like me personally, and have told me they’ll support me if Hayworth loses in Tuesday’s primary, I don’t think most of the folks at last night’s rally would do so once they learned where I stand on social issues. That’s OK; I’m not going to take un-libertarian positions just because they’re popular. Public opinion changes all the time; new issues arise and old ones fade. Our candidates should of course emphasize issues where the libertarian position is popular, but we mustn’t take anti-liberty positions just because public opinion of the moment is against liberty in some area.

If we maintain a consistent pro-liberty stance, we’ll change minds in a pro-liberty direction. If we compromise and conceal our positions, we will eventually destroy our brand. (Imagine what would happen to Johnnie Walker if they progressively diluted their black label whisky by 5% every year by substituting Coca-Cola!)

 

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  1. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes August 22, 2010

    David Nolan, I’m still waiting to hear from you about conducting a PLAS campaign.
    You must like to lose. You can’t like to win because you never have.

  2. Eric Dondero Eric Dondero August 22, 2010

    Nolan should take his own advice and take a Pro-Liberty stance on the Ground Zero Mosque – No Islamic Terrorist desecrations of sacred American gravesites.

  3. NewFederalist NewFederalist August 22, 2010

    Oh oh… I fear some fecal material may collide with the fan on this one!

  4. Thane Eichenauer Thane Eichenauer August 22, 2010

    There is freedom, liberty and individual responsibility and then there is deciding that Muslims collectively are responsible for the actions of a few. If Park51 owns the land, let them build the Cordoba House mosque.

  5. Catholic Trotskyist Catholic Trotskyist August 22, 2010

    Shut up Dondero; you’re wrong on almost every issue. Economically socialist, socially conservative, left-wing anti-American on foreign policy, and yes, supporting of the Ground Zero mosque, and supporting amnesty on illegal immigration. That’s the true way of God.
    The Catholic Trotskyist Party reluctantly endorses John McCain for Tuesday’s primary. Glad this is finally over!
    Good luck to David Nolan, a good man despite his 40-year loser status and flawed positions on economic and social issues. He really should endorse PLAS; what does he have to lose?

  6. Catholic Trotskyist Catholic Trotskyist August 22, 2010

    Where is my comment? It got eaten by the server.

    Basically; shut up Dondero! You’re wrong and the opposite of Catholic Trotskyism on almost everything!

  7. Catholic Trotskyist Catholic Trotskyist August 22, 2010

    We reluctantly endorse John McCain for Tuesday’s primary. David Nolan should really endorse PLAS; what does have to lose?

  8. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes August 22, 2010

    Catholic Trotskyist, right. What does he have to lose?
    This is the crazyness of the situation. Virtually EVERY LP & GP candidate is going to lose. With virtual cretainty. The higher the office, the more certain the defeat. & HUGE. Not even close almost every time.
    So even if worse case scenario, I’m a raving lunatic, my math is fuzzy,I’m delusional & have little or nothing to offer ANY candidate, so what? What do they have to lose by trying PLAS? Embarassment? Humiliation? Waste of contributions? Waste of time, energy? No, they are already there, doing that.
    After the election I’m going to say I told you so. & they can’t say I’m wrong because they didn’t try it-when they could have.

  9. Andy Andy August 22, 2010

    “Eric Dondero // Aug 22, 2010 at 4:36 pm

    Nolan should take his own advice and take a Pro-Liberty stance on the Ground Zero Mosque – No Islamic Terrorist desecrations of sacred American gravesites.”

    Oh come on, that’s not a libertarian position on this issue.

  10. Ted Brown Ted Brown August 22, 2010

    @9 Correct. Libertarians believe in private property rights. Whoever owns that property should be able to use it for whatever purpose they want — with no zoning, building permits, environmental impact studies, etc. The same NIMBY attitude can be found in every city, where the city leaders try to ban medical marijuana dispensaries, tattoo parlors, strip clubs, drive-in restaurants, and (in Temple City, CA) even bridal parlors. A true Libertarian will stand up for property rights, with no differentiation on the type of usage.

  11. wolfefan wolfefan August 22, 2010

    I didn’t know that there were Americans buried at the Burlington Coat Factory where this community center is being proposed.

  12. George Phillies George Phillies August 22, 2010

    @11 There aren’t any buried, to my knowledge, a few blocks away either. The site was excavated down to bedrock. Also, the part of the site that is consecrated is consecrated because it belonged to a local Orthodox Diocese and was the site of their church.

  13. War Is Peace War Is Peace August 22, 2010

    Dondero: “take a Pro-Liberty stance on the Ground Zero Mosque – No Islamic Terrorist desecrations of sacred American gravesites.”

    Why is Ground Zero “sacred” just because a lot of people died there? People die everywhere. That doesn’t make the ground sacred.

    How is it “Pro-Liberty” to forbid something?

  14. AroundtheblockAFT AroundtheblockAFT August 23, 2010

    Aren’t followers of Christ supposed to forgive trespasses? To turn the other cheek? The opposition to a mosque/community center would appear to be highly insensitive to the feelings of millions of American muslims who had nothing to do with 9/11. Is this the way Christians behave when actually called upon to practice their faith?

  15. paulie paulie August 23, 2010

    @ 12-13

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