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Big and Small L Libertarians Contemplating Runs for Mayor of NYC

In what is an off year for elections in most states, New York City, with a population that would put it in the top dozen states if it were its own state, will be holding a Mayoral election next year.

An anonymous source writes me via email:

Carl [Person] is considering a run for NYC Mayor on the Republican, Conservative, and Libertarian lines. He is in contact and is arranging to meet with people to discuss the possibility. This is an interesting situation because to the GOP’s lack of a candidate and a rather lackluster effort to recruit one (they’ve even openly asked several DEMOCRATS to put their names in for consideration).

Kristin Davis, who sought the Libertarian nomination for Governor and ultimately ran as the Anti-Prohibition Party candidate in 2010, may also be seeking the Mayor’s office.

Wikipedia:

in July 2012 [Roger] Stone announced that Davis had changed her registration to the Republican Party for a potential entry into the 2013 New York City mayoral election. A campaign committee was registered the next month.

Wikipedia cites the following sources:

1

In other Republican news, Roger Stone announced today former madam Kristin Davis has re-registered into the GOP from her upper east side address.

Roger says Ms. Davis may be seeking the Republican mayoral nomination next year in a run against the “nanny state.” The recent super soda debate is the most recent example.

Without a billionaire self funder like Mayor Bloomberg, the GOP will likely lose to the Democratic nominee, who likely will be City Council Speaker Christine Quinn.

However, New York City’s public financing of campaigns can be a money maker for even losing candidates.

2

Is the Manhattan Madam running for New York City mayor?

According to her Wikipedia page, Kristin Davis, who claimed have to served Eliot Spitzer with her escort service, changed her registration to Republican in preparation for a possible run for New York City mayor in 2013.

Now, she’s got a campaign committee to raise money to run for Mike Bloomberg’s job.

The Daily News wrote more about the prospect a few months ago, and Davis wrote on her own blog in late June that she was “seriously considering” running as a Libertarian, especially since she feels Council Speaker Christine Quinn would not end the practice of stop-and-frisk as mayor.

Recall that Davis ran for New York governor in 2010 on a very Libertarian platform, advised by Roger Stone.

If she runs as a Republican, that could be a hell of a primary with Malcolm Smith.

The link to Davis’ blog goes to this page:

CAN WE VOTE AGAINST STOP & FRISK?
I PONDER THE 2013 NYC MAYORAL RACE

While I commend Mayor Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly for their efforts to make the NYPD Stop & Frisk Policy less intrusive and racist- it is not an issue that can be fixed.

The NYPD Stop & Frisk Policy, which allows for an NYPD Officer to “Stop & Frisk” an individual, without just cause, is unconstitutional. It violates our 4th amendment rights, which are designed to protect us from unreasonable searches, and require a warrant, issued by a court of law, supported by probable cause.

I, personally, have been the victim of the NYPD Stop & Frisk Policy. A few months ago I was “stopped” outside of the airport and searched. I have no idea why I was stopped. I was going about my business. While I was not doing anything illegal – I cannot tell you how scary it is as a convicted felon to be detained by the police on any matter. I spent four months in the hell-hole of Rikers Island and even the sight of a Police Officer sends shivers down my spine.

The only way to “fix” this policy – is to get rid of it. Unfortunately, City Council President and 2013 Mayoral Race Frontrunner, Christine Quinn, supports the NYPD Stop & Frisk Policy.

In 2013, if Christine Quinn wins the Democratic Nomination for Mayor of NYC, the unconstitutional and racist NYPD Stop & Frisk Policy will continue. Those who oppose stop and frisk will have no voice.

If this happens, I will seriously considering entering the Mayor’s race as the Libertarian Party Candidate so the voters have a choice and can cast a vote against this outrageous policy. Based on the fact that I successfully collected the 22,000 signatures required to get on the ballot as a protest candidate for Governor, I am confident I could get on the mayoral ballot.

22 Comments

  1. paulie March 22, 2013

    @22 Not according to LPNY Chair Mark Axinn. See story linked @23.

  2. just real November 29, 2012

    Fusion voting is allowed in New York. There’s no reason Ms. Davis can’t run for mayor as both a Republican and a Libertarian. Maybe Reform too?

  3. Q2Q October 9, 2012

    Also, let’s look at her pathetic showing for Governor in 2010. The LP nominee won 48386 votes, Davis won 20429 votes. With all her hype and all her attitude, she did worse then the actual party nominee. And, if we look at Carl Person’s run for AG, he won 36448 votes in the same election year. So, even if you ignore my pimp comments, Carl potentially could win more votes based on his previous run for office.

  4. Q2Q October 9, 2012

    Although lawyers tend to be scum, it’s a legitimate profession. Pimping is illegal, and it would bad for the movement to nominate a pimp. Let me make my point, would you rather a have a lawyer/businessman/politician campaigning for LP issues (legalizing drugs, prostitution, etc) or a Pimp (think of the most ghetto-fabulous pimp)? The average peson would not vote for the pimp, because a Pimp is stereotypically a scumbag who takes avantage of women and whores them out for his own benefit. I’m sure Davis is a smart and nice person, but she’s still a pimp; just like the ghetto-fabulous ones on TV.

  5. paulie October 9, 2012

    Whether Davis was ever a hooker herself is in dispute. She says she wasn’t.

    Anyway, why do you think being a pimp (or for that matter a hooker) is less honorable than being a lawyer?

  6. Wobbly Rails October 9, 2012

    Personally, I blame my parents.

  7. JT October 8, 2012

    Wobbly Rails: “Dingleberry? Are we in third grade? LOL”

    Ask Q2Q. It’s his pet word.

    Of course, “Wobbly Rails” doesn’t sound adult either, really.

  8. Q2Q October 8, 2012

    Out of the two, Carl is a better candidate. He’s a lawyer with a good reputation, he’s willing to spend his own money, and he’s a good person. Kristin Davis, lets be honest, is an ex-hooker and an ex-pimp. So, the choice is a lawyer and an ex-pimp. yeah.

  9. Steven Berson October 8, 2012

    unfortunately I’m not sure whether the potential candidates mentioned above are
    really the ones to do it.

    Based on witnessing Carl Person debate other LP Presidential Candidates a number of times –
    I find he simply doesn’t have the public speaking skills or any real semblance of charisma in his presence to have success with the general public as a politician. I also find that
    he presents his platform ideas – some of which are not really all that libertarian – in a convoluted way that makes him not so effective of a communicator of libertarian ideals. I
    think he’s got some good ideas and tons of great intentions – but I just don’t see him as
    being an effective candidate.

    Regarding Kristin Davis – based on meeting her a number of times I find she is a really
    amiable and intelligent in person – and she is actually a decent public speaker (something that I think she could likely get better with more practice) – but the issue I have is that so many voters will not take her seriously because of already formed opinions based on her past and her appearance. It’s possible she may be able to over come this barrier – and she certainly has shown that she is able to get some notice in the media because of it, and that this possibly also could lead to some decent levels of fund raising – but I think it’d be great if there was a Mayoral candidate for the LP that did not come with any such “baggage” to possibly also choose from – which we could up the quality of the candidate ultimately picked via competition rather than settling for whoever is just willing to do the role.

    I also find her opposition a couple years ago to the so called “Ground Zero Mosque” was particularly misguided and does not show upholding pure libertarian principles in all cases – at least when it comes to religious freedom and private property rights.

    The fact that she has apparently decided to pursue a GOP primary race rather than further the Libertarian Party brand also makes me less enthusiastic – as I find the GOP is a such a corrupt cesspool that is in fact anti-liberty in many of its practices that I have a very difficult time ever supporting any of the candidates that choose to associate themselves with it.

  10. Steven Berson October 8, 2012

    The 2013 NYC Mayoral race represents an excellent opportunity for the NY Libertarian Party to make some major inroads to the voters in NYC

    What makes the conditions in NYC interesting is that by focusing on a few platform points that are not often championed by the LP nationally it would demonstrate how libertarian solutions actually work great not just for those that are financially independent but also for working class and lower income folks – something that I’ve seen the LP in general be enormously clumsy about doing in the past – and in fact often putting

    Besides usual LP points such as ending our city’s huge restrictions on our 2nd Amendment rights, ending the “war on drugs” that has in fact been pursued even more under Bloomberg, allowing choice in education, stopping violation of our 1st Amendment rights (that we’ve seen in the past year in the handling of the Occupy Wall Street protests) – three other potential platform points I think would be good to push are:

    * completely end “Stop and Frisk” programs done which violate citizen’s 4th Amendment rights and which have been focused on racial minorities in lower income neighborhoods here
    http://www.nytimes.com/video/2010/07/11/nyregion/1247468422062/stop-and-frisk-in-brownsville-brooklyn.html

    * deregulate curbside pickup for car services – particularly allowing services that now operate “underground” such as the “Dollar Vans” to operate without exclusionary licensing, fees or harassment as long as the operators possessed enough liability insurance – in this way it allows private citizens to create their own jobs, while increasing service to areas not covered by the MTA, and increases options and potential competition so allows for lowering of costs for publicly available transportation (without adding any costs for government based solutions) – especially to areas that are under served by it currently –
    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2011/10/the-illegal-private-bus-system-that-works/246166/

    * end the opaque un-legislated additional taxation on restaurant’s being done by the Bloomberg administration via excessive and harassing inspections and fines that go beyond guaranteeing health and safety and head into extortion. This just inflates costs for meals at restaurants (in a city where most people eat out for tons of their meals) and makes it more difficult for owners to keep their businesses open in an already difficult industry to succeed in.
    http://queenscourier.com/2011/health-department-fines-frustrate-queens-restaurant-owners/

  11. Wobbly Rails October 8, 2012

    Dingleberry? Are we in third grade? LOL

  12. JT October 8, 2012

    Q2Q: “I’ve just talked to Carl Person, and he will also recruit candidates for Public Advocate, City Controller, and for Borough Presidents. He wants a full slate.”

    What he should want is to stop being a dingleberry.

  13. paulie October 8, 2012

    Well that should be entertaining at least 🙂

  14. Q2Q October 8, 2012

    Jimmy McMillan is running, cause rent is too damn high

  15. paulie October 8, 2012

    Anyone know any other likely LP, libertarian, independent or alt party candidates likely to run for NYC Mayor?

  16. Q2Q October 8, 2012

    I’ve just talked to Carl Person, and he will also recruit candidates for Public Advocate, City Controller, and for Borough Presidents. He wants a full slate. What the hell does Davis bring besides attitude and big tits?

  17. Wobbly Rails October 7, 2012

    Sorry for hogging the floor. Last one for now, I promise.

    I forgot to mention…in between…she managed to work in the whole “done with politics and never running for any office ever again” thing.

    I’ll grant that she’s far from dumb but she sure is….shall we say moody?

  18. Wobbly Rails October 7, 2012

    BTW what is up with the whole
    “can’t pick a party” thing?

    After she didn’t get LPNY she went through what, ten or fifteen ideas on what her new party was going to be called? Along with saying she would run as an independent.

    Then she was LP again and was seen at LP national in Vegas.

    Then she say in June or July she will run for mayor as LP. Then she switches to GOP. But her blog (at least as of last month) is still called Libertarian Lady and still has a prominent link to the Libertarian Party section. Which features, among a small number of actual libertarian links….Breitbart. Seriously? Breitbart? That’s whose idea of libertarian?

    Jeez, lady, make up your mind….please!

  19. Wobbly Rails October 7, 2012

    I would agree about her being quite intelligent. She was successful in two tough businesses, and does have a lot of good views.

    Her attacks on property rights for Muslims in downtown Manhattan (and, albeit mostly by proxy) on the LPNY and Warren Redlich were unfortunate, however.

  20. Wobbly Rails October 7, 2012

    BTW her name does not have an “e” in it.

  21. Wobbly Rails October 7, 2012

    Is Bloomberg running again?

  22. John Balzer October 7, 2012

    Be not confused by media spin, Kristen Davis is an adroit and sophisticated person who probably has a more realistic and empathic vision for New York than Bloomberg with his vision clouded by the fact that he is an out of touch billionaire. I will cast a vote for Kristen.

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