Manhattan Libertarian Party Formally Invites Dr. Tom Stevens To Re-Join

From Dr. Tom Stevens’s blog, Liberty Lion

On March 8, 2013, Janet Hopf, Manhattan Libertarian Party Chair, sent Dr. Tom Stevens an e-mail, the text of which was the following:

The Manhattan LP committee has voted to officially invite you to re-join our chapter. Please share this email with any interested parties I left off the list.

We look forward to seeing you at our regular meetings and to working together toward restoring our rights and defending freedom in New York.

Dr. Tom Stevens first joined the Manhattan Libertarian Party (MLP) on January 10, 2004. At the MLP Annual Convention held that same date, Dr. Stevens was elected the Manhattan Libertarian Party’s State Representative to the Libertarian Party of New York with 52.4% of the vote, beating out Craig Milem (33.3%) and Sam Sloan (14.3%). On January 8, 2005, the delegates in attendance at the MLP Annual Convention re-elected Dr. Tom Stevens as the MLP’s State Representative, said action that was unanimously re-affirmed by the MLP Executive Committee immediately after the business session. On January 21, 2006, Dr. Stevens declined a nomination for a third term in office and urged the delegates to support Mark Axinn, who was elected to the position. Mark Axinn currently serves as State Chair of the New York Libertarian Party. On Monday, December 11, 2006, Mark Axinn resigned as MLP State Representative and the Executive Committee selected Dr. Tom Stevens to fill out the remainder of his term of office. On January 20, 2007, the delegates in attendance at the MLP Annual Convention again elected Dr. Tom Stevens as MLP State Representative in a contested race against Jak Karako. Dr. Stevens resigned as MLP State Representative on May 14, 2007.

Because of issues and infighting on a statewide level leading up to and after the April 24, 2010 Annual Convention of the New York Libertarian Party (unrelated to the Manhattan Libertarian Party), Dr. Stevens offered to resign his Manhattan Libertarian Party membership, which was accepted on August 16, 2010. Subsequent to that date, many members of the Libertarian Party of Queens County ceased their active involvement in the Manhattan Libertarian Party, stopped attending meetings and either resigned their own memberships in the Manhattan Libertarian Party or did not renew.

Dallwyn Merck, Secretary of the Libertarian Party of Queens County, says:

An undeclared state of war existed between the Manhattan Libertarian Party and the Queens Libertarian Party over this issue. Dr. Tom Stevens served in leadership positions in the Manhattan LP with distinction during all his years of involvement. To accept his resignation for issues completely unrelated to either of our chapters was a slap in the face to Dr. Stevens. To restore friendly and peaceful relations, the Queens LP demanded both a formal apology and an official invitation to Dr. Tom Stevens to re-join the Manhattan Libertarian Party.

After Janet Hopf, Manhattan Libertarian Party Chair, invited Sam Sloan to rejoin the Manhattan Libertarian Party and accepted an invitation to speak to the Queens Libertarian Party on February 9, 2013, Dr. Stevens told the LPQC Executive Committee that the time was right to re-establish good relations with the Manhattan Libertarian Party. In the interests of peace, Dr. Stevens indicated his willingness to forego a formal apology so long as the Executive Committee of the Manhattan Libertarian Party officially invited him to rejoin. Such a vote took place and Dr. Stevens was notified of the Executive Committee action on March 8, 2013. Many Queens LP members have now indicated they too will rejoin the Manhattan LP.    

On March 9, 2013, Dr. Tom Stevens paid $20.00 in dues to the Manhattan Libertarian Party and formally had his membership restored. His current membership expires on December 31, 2013.

78 thoughts on “Manhattan Libertarian Party Formally Invites Dr. Tom Stevens To Re-Join

  1. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Re: 1

    I am certain the Montgomery County Libertarian Party did not formally take the action referenced.

    Oh, I see!

    Another Amish Mafia, Operation Leprechaun, Ale House Burning, Blue Van, Monty Python joke.

  2. NewFederalist

    “On March 9, 2013, Dr. Tom Stevens paid $20.00 in dues to the Manhattan Libertarian Party and formally had his membership restored. His current membership expires on December 31, 2013.”

    And in other news, it is most likely 0ne o’clock somewhere.

  3. Jill Pyeatt

    Can he remain a member of a New York group if he’s re-elected chair of PA, assuming he is nominated from the floor at the convention?

  4. Freddy Got Fingered

    “On a related note, the Montgomery County Libertarian Party formally invites Doctor Tom Stevens to rejoin the Objectivist Party.”

    How can he rejoin when he never left?

  5. Ed Reagan

    “On March 9, 2013, Dr. Tom Stevens paid $20.00 in dues to the Manhattan Libertarian Party and formally had his membership restored. His current membership expires on December 31, 2013.”

    Elsewhere on March 9, 2013, nobody gave a fuck about Dr. Tom Steven.

    Then on March 17, 2013, at the LNC meeting in Chicago, Dr, Tom Stevens was the laughingstock of the meeting when Bill Redpath asked, “What the hell is going on in Pennsylvania?”

    Hopefully now that the MLP has invted him back, he will drag is carpetbagging ass bak to New York and leave the good people of Pennsylvania alone.

  6. Erik Viker

    The LPPA has become an utter and complete fiasco, but it’s great entertainment.

  7. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Re: 7

    Your crass manner and lack of proper upbringing cannot be washed off no matter how many showers you take. As for your intelligence, I have a deck of cards here to keep you occupied and fascinated for days so you’d give people a break from your presence in their lives.

    No matter what you do, you will always be Ed Reagan. You have no idea how badly you present to others and how much people dislike you.

    As for me, as this article indicates, I am elected over and over again to positions of responsibility and I keep my sanity by not associating with individuals such as yourself.

  8. Ed Reagan

    @9

    No matter what I will always be Ed Reagan, which is great.

    No matter what you do, you will always be Tom Stevens, an attention seeking, utter failure, who creates political organizations to feel important about yourself and so you can write about yourself in the third person.

    As for my upbringing, I was equipped with the skills to be successful in life.

    What have you accomplished? Don’t you still live at home with your parents? Seriously Tom if your self worth is measured by the number of political groups you can start and vote yourself chairman of, your life must be sad.

    You also have no idea how far off base you are, when you state “how much people dislike you.” Truth be told Tom it is that most people dislike you, come to the LPPa State Convention and find out how many people really can not stand you and plan to run you out of the LPPa.

    As for all your “positions of responsibility” maybe you can address some questions regarding your delivering on your responsibilities. Such as:

    1) dropping the ball and not notifying the membership of the LPPa at least fifty days prior to the convention and the readjustment of the schedule?

    2) How many candidates are you running as the Chairman of the LP of Northampton County?

    3) How many candidates are you running as the Chairman of the LP of Philadelphia County?

    4) Why did you make a convicted child molster one of your: “Executive Assistants to the LPPa Chairman” and also make him the chairman of an LPPA statewide committee?

    5) Why did you select the worst hotel in Danville, PA to host the LPPa state convention?

    6) Why did you move the LPPa state convention from Bethelhem, PA to Danville, PA after the convention was announced for Bethlehem, PA?

  9. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Re: 10

    No time for your lies Ed Reagan or your misleading questions. Nor do I care what anti-libertarian actions your mob intends to take. In fact, your raising the lie about there not having been a proper 50-day notice (when there was) shows how you and Scheetz are already setting up an argument to continue your fight when Roy Minet and Betsy Summers defeat you in a landslide at the LPPA Annual Convention.

    But just to point people in the right direction, I did not form the Manhattan Libertarian Party nor did I appoint myself as its State Representative the many times I served in that capacity.

    Nor did I form the Queens LP or the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania, which elected me State Chair last April.

    Poor Ed Reagan. A hyena is equipped with skills to survive in life but I wouldn’t want to be one.

  10. Ed Reagan

    Tom if my questions are so “misleading”, then answer them and prove me wrong Tom.

  11. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Re: 12

    I have no desire to prove you wrong or to deal with you in any way. I had your number after my first interactions with you and that number was “zero”!

    When something happens with someone in the LPPA, they now routinely say, “At least I’m not Ed Reagan”, and the fact that you address me by my first name shows me how delusional you are about reality.

    You are, in my opinion, a very sick man! I choose to exclude people like you from my life.

  12. Ed Reagan

    Tom @13

    “I have no desire to prove you wrong or to deal with you in any way.”

    It is not a desire to prove me wrong, it is because you can’t prove me wrong. So you go on you campaign of ignoring the questions and trying change the conversation.

    For example you made an individual one of your “executive assistants” and the chairman of a LPPA state committee. That individual was convicted of molesting two boys aged 12 and 13. I have the newspaper story link and his Megan’s Law registry link to prove it. Yet you just want to sweep it under the rug. Tom why have you chose to give leadership roles to child molesters?

    You call me a sick man, but you are the one associating with, making executive assistant out of and giving a LPPa committee chairmanship to a convicted child molester.

    You sir bring sick to a whole new level.

  13. Ed Reagan

    Addressing the 50 day notice issue, this is not something Steve and I discovered. It was discovered by several former LPPa State Chairmen who shared that information with us and others.

  14. Steve M

    but whom you don’t name. So public trial with secret evidence? How about these former LPPa State Chairmen step forward and place their accusations in the light of day?

  15. Steve M

    guilt by association? ” but you are the one associating with, making executive assistant out of and giving a LPPa committee chairmanship to a convicted child molester. ”

    Did you talk to Tom about these appointments? Or just withhold the info to make public accusations latter?

  16. The where's Tommy game.

    “Did you talk to Tom about these appointments? Or just withhold the info to make public accusations latter?”

    How would he go about that beening as he is banned from all lppa communications.

    As you can see Tom does what he wants and answers to no one. He refuses to answer any questions.

  17. paulie

    the fact that you address me by my first name shows me how delusional you are about reality.

    That’s the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Great way to start my day – thank you!

    WTFITMTAN?

    Well, I know what WTF stands for, and ITM is either “is the matter” or “is the Manhattan” …after that, ???

  18. Ed Reagan

    Steve M @ 18

    Q: “Did you talk to Tom about these appointments? Or just withhold the info to make public accusations latter?”

    A: I provided the name and links the news story and Megan’s law page to current LPPA Board member Roy Minet.

    Roy’s positions on th Board are the Chairman of the Marketing Committee and he Chairman of the Media Relations Committee.

    Primarily since this is something the Media Relaions Committee should be aware of, so tey can prepare a statement in-case the mainstream media happen to discover this and report on it.

    Secondly to see if and/or how Roy Minet takes the information shared wth him to the LPPA Board, so the matter can be addressed by the Board.

    Roy Minet is a current candidate for LPPA Chairman, and the one candiandate the Tom Stevens has been throwing his weight behind on most of the LPPA and non-LPPA communictions channels that he controls.

    The questions that left to be anwered are:

    1) Will Roy Minet take this to he Board to be formally addressed?

    2) Will Roy Mine sit on this information and not bite the hand that is promoting his candidacy for LPPA chair?

    3) Will the Board act to remove a known child predator from leadership roles in the LPPA?

    4) Roy Minet wants to be Chairman of the LPPA, but so far as I can tell has not taken any action related to this matter with the Board. This sort of not wanting to rock the boat methodlogy that Roy seems to adhere to is exactly why the LPPA is where it is today. The current LPPA Board has failed to reel in Tom Stevens and Tom Stevens has hand selected candidates to run for the LPPA that he knows he can run roughshod over.

    Roy Minet wants to lead the LPPA in 2013, but given all the information to address this issue, he has not shown any leadership skills.

    Consider that the Marketing Committe that Roy Minet is Chairman of is responsible fo the LPPA’s website. A website that the content on is on average more than 2 years old. A websiste where Roy is using the forums to campaign for Chair but no one can join the forum currently, including myself who has tried to jon since May 2012 without success. The problem is knwo buit not fixed, you can create an account, but the forum never send the activation email, so it looks like people are joining, but that are never able to activate their account and post to the forum.

    Do we want a new LPPA Chairman who has a proven track record of inaction and a lack of leadership skills?

  19. Sam Kress

    How about these former LPPa State Chairmen step forward and place their accusations in the light of day?

    Maybe some people don’t want to be in the middle of this food fight?

    The accusation that notice was inadequate should be examined on its own merits regardless of who discovered it.

  20. Steve M

    Ed,

    So you didn’t talk to Tom about it and broadcast it as if you did. Then you change the subject (completely off topic) and go on to attack someone else.

  21. Steve M

    If the original sources don’t want to assert their merits then NOBODY else should either.

    Fundamental right here in the US is the right to face ones accusers. Which can’t be done if they are anonymous. Or maybe they are just fictitious?

  22. Sam Kress

    Proper notice was either done with at least 50 days or it wasn’t. It’s an objective measure of fact that has nothing to do with “accusers.” It makes no difference who noticed the bylaws violation first, it only matters whether there was one.

  23. Sam Kress

    “So you didn’t talk to Tom about”

    He just said the board was informed, since the board is the group of people responsible for dealing with the LPPA’s image. Tom is not a dictator, his appointments reflect on the whole party and the board is responsible for reviewing them.

  24. Steve M

    He said a member of the board was informed… but neither you nor I nor Ed know if that message was passed along to the entire board.

    What we do know is that Ed has made public accusations rather then trying to fix the problems.

    No facts have been presented Sam just second hand anonymous accusations.

  25. Ed Reagan

    Steve M @27

    Q: “So you didn’t talk to Tom about it and broadcast it as if you did. Then you change the subject (completely off topic) and go on to attack someone else.”

    A: Tom has blocked me from accessing the LPPA communications channels he controls. This includes the ability to email him at drtomsteven@aol.com which is where the email sent to chair@lppa.org is forwarded to.

    Whenever I send an email to Tom I get this message from the AOL Postmaster:

    : You mail could not be delivered because the recipient is only accepting mail from specific email addresses. If you feel you received this in error, please contact the recipient directly and ask them to check their email settings.

  26. Freddy Got Fingered

    He said a member of the board was informed… but neither you nor I nor Ed know if that message was passed along to the entire board.

    If not, that’s a problem for that board since they are supposed to know to inform each other when they learn such important information that could seriously impact the image of the party. And it’s also a problem that the board member who may have not passed on such information is the one who is now running for chairman.

    That doesn’t address the issue of adequate public notice of the convention, only the separate issue of the child molesting executive assistant.

  27. Steve M

    “who may not have” or who might have…. and might be doing something about it…. plenty of justification for a public lynching…. no where what is needed for a just finding.

  28. Freddy Got Fingered

    If he did inform the whole board, that’s an indictment of the whole board.

    If he didn’t, it’s an indictment of the candidate for chair.

    BTW there was a long email chain a week or two ago where the issue was brought up, and Tom Stevens was included in those emails, as were the LPPA board members.

  29. Freddy Got Fingered

    Ed Reagan @32

    So he blocks your email and then his proxy here is blaming you for not emailing him?! LOL

  30. Steve M

    @36, I am nobody’s proxy…. I just find the really nasty, mudslinging and backstabbing politics that are being exhibited here to be beneath anyone who wants an honest open and just political system.

    Guilt by accusation and innuendo is just so ugly an activity that those that engage in it are a discredit to the movement and should not beholding any party office.

  31. Freddy Got Fingered

    Dr. Stevens now:

    “Your crass manner and lack of proper upbringing..”

    Dr. Stevens then:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ManhattanLibertarians/message/20219?source=1&var=1&l=1

    Pig Fuck,

    Saying you are one sick fuck is only the tip of the “iceberg” (not a Jewish
    word but often confused for one) regarding your mental condition. Everyone is
    already making up their own mind in that regard.

    Finally, I have been elected THREE times to represent the Manhattan LP. I
    have nothing else to prove. No one foisted me on the State Committee except
    the Manhattan LP members themselves.

    End of story. But I am sure you will continue to repeat your story over and
    over until some new people who weren’t around actually start to believe it.

    As Nic might say, stop acting like a Jewish Nigger!

    TRS

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  32. Steve M

    The email that Freddy just published has been edited (a dishonest action) and taken out of its context.

  33. Unedited

    Completely unedited:

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    In a message dated 4/11/2007 9:20:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
    Lists@… writes:

    How proud the Manhattan membership must be of its noble leaders Mark
    Axinn, Joe Dobrian and Jim Lesczynski for saddling them with Tom Stevens
    as their rep for an entire year, simply to piss off the State
    Committee! Feeling sold out yet? Anyway, just to give credit where
    credit is due, I do have to say, way to go, guys! You really did hurt
    us with that one. Yes, it is painful to be forced to put up with
    Stevens, as anyone can see. May you never experience the pain of having
    your “friends” dump a load on you as you have so gleefully done to us.

    Blay

    Pig Fuck,

    Your ceaseless postings and rants, almost daily against myself, the Queens
    LP, Clifton, Axinn etc., no matter what the thread is actually about, is in my
    opinion harassment and proves you are a “sick fuck”.

    Saying you are one sick fuck is only the tip of the “iceberg” (not a Jewish
    word but often confused for one) regarding your mental condition. Everyone is
    already making up their own mind in that regard.

    Finally, I have been elected THREE times to represent the Manhattan LP. I
    have nothing else to prove. No one foisted me on the State Committee except
    the Manhattan LP members themselves.

    End of story. But I am sure you will continue to repeat your story over and
    over until some new people who weren’t around actually start to believe it.

    As Nic might say, stop acting like a Jewish Nigger!

    TRS

    ************************************** See what’s free at http://www.aol.com.

    [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

  34. Jill Pyeatt

    I agree with Unedited in 48. Having said that, and admitting that I also find the exchange between Stevens and Reagan entertaining, I do think it would help Ed ‘s case if he acted a little more like a grown-up.

  35. Steve M

    The question is why edit it in the first place? What were you thinking when you did so? Did you not know that doing so in unethical?

  36. Ed Reagan

    Jill @ 49

    Tom controls most of the communication vehicles of the LPPa. Website, Yahoo Group, Facebook, Meetups, etc.

    When Tom locks down those communication channels, applies moderation to bias the message, edits peoples posts as part of his moderation, bans those who seek to hold him accountable and even used those resources to promote his slate of candidates and his new “libertarian” groups. It demonstrates that Tom really does not understand Libertarian principles.

    Yes I have had to drag the issues with Tom Stevens out into the sunlight via IPR and group emails. Since I had no other avenues to inform people of Tom’s authoritarian/non-libertarian ways.

    Sorry if you feel that I need to act a little more grown-up, but this has been going on since about mid-September 2012 and I am completely frustrated with Tom Stevens actions and the in-actions of many of the other LPPa Board members. That frustration at times can cause me to stoop to Tom’s level, for that I apologize and I will try to keep to the high road going forward.

  37. Jill Pyeatt

    It’s just my opinion as an outsider, Ed. Thanks. I would undoubtedly be frustrated if I were you, too.

  38. Sam Kress

    “The question is why edit it in the first place? What were you thinking when you did so? Did you not know that doing so in unethical?”

    Wow and you say you are not a Stevens proxy? Yeah right.

    What was edited out that changed the tone of the email? Did he or did he not call someone a Pig Fuck and a Jewish Nigger?

    It was edited only for length and a link was given back to the original so anyone and everyone could read it for themselves.

    There’s nothing unethical about pointing out Stevens’ words and no one said it was not an excerpt, which anyone can see by clicking on the included link.

    Stevens calls someone a “Pig Fuck, Jewish Nigger” and the only thing you have to say about it is that it was unethical to edit out some irrelevant verbiage while providing a link back to the whole thing?

    And then he says other people are crass? Are you kidding me?

    And you are not a Stevens proxy? You have no credibility in that.

  39. Mark Axinn

    The individual who was called a Pig Fuck is Blay Tarnoff, current Secretary of the LPNY. To be fair to Tom, there was a lot of prior communications and context, none of which I am going to recite right now. I am neither justifying nor condoning his use of the term, merely advising that there is more to the story than a couple of crass emails in of themselves.

    Blay and Tom have had several serious disagreements over the years, as have I with each of them from time to time.

  40. Mark Axinn

    PS.

    Now let’s all give it a rest and move ahead in a positive direction.

    I expect quite a lot of good news from the many April 27 conventions. Here in New York, we will have great speakers and lots of good food, discussion of liberty and a healthy amount of libations (NOTA is buying).

  41. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    So the following is the actual email by Dr. Stevens, correct?

    “Pig Fuck,

    Your ceaseless postings and rants, almost daily against myself, the Queens
    LP, Clifton, Axinn etc., no matter what the thread is actually about, is in my
    opinion harassment and proves you are a “sick fuck”.

    Saying you are one sick fuck is only the tip of the “iceberg” (not a Jewish
    word but often confused for one) regarding your mental condition. Everyone is
    already making up their own mind in that regard.

    Finally, I have been elected THREE times to represent the Manhattan LP. I
    have nothing else to prove. No one foisted me on the State Committee except
    the Manhattan LP members themselves.

    End of story. But I am sure you will continue to repeat your story over and
    over until some new people who weren’t around actually start to believe it.

    As Nic might say, stop acting like a Jewish Nigger!

    TRS”

  42. Sam Kress

    @57 Yes, it is.

    And so what if Blay Tarnoff had some negative things to say about Stevens and Axinn? Ed Reagan and Tom Stevens have had a lot of negative things to say about each other, yet Stevens chides Reagan for being “crass” nevertheless.

  43. Steve M

    Sam Kress…. to start with your name calling isn’t going to impress anyone.

    I am an impartial observer who can spot a lynch mob. I could care less whether Tom Steven’s remains a member of the Libertarian Party or not. That doesn’t excuse the behavior of certain other members of the party from engaging in unethical mudslinging politics.

    If you are going to publish an email as evidence then you publish the email and its context.

    Making accusations that are supposedly made by anonymous other people is also unethical.

    Those using these methods are damaging their credibility.

  44. James Babb

    Considering his unusual preferences, is it possible that Doctor Tom uses “pig fuck” as a term of endearment?

    Sociopathy is a terrible, debilitating affliction. Perhaps a little sympathy is in order.

  45. Sam Kress

    Steve M

    Nice try, but facts are facts and they have been presented here, your pathetic attempts at deflection notwithstanding.

  46. Steve M

    Sam….

    An accusation is not a fact. To become a fact both sides of a dispute have to agree its a fact or an independent judge has to decide if the evidence would elevate an accusation to being a fact.

    This is why anonymous accusations which the other party hasn’t acknowledged can never be more then an anonymous allegation.

    A lynch mob is a group of people that will skip the steps justice and just hang the accused.

    But you not only are trying to hang Tom Stevens you are also trying to hang other members of the LPPa board for being associated with Tom or for the existence of yet another person.

    Guilt by association, used as justification for this public lynching.

    I am sure you all believe that what you are doing what is right… Somewhere though, I suspect you know that these methods are not honorable, not ethical and certainly no where near just.

    Why don’t you all just get your troops in line and go to the State convention and hold a respectful debate/discussion and do your best to put quality officers on the board?

    Drop these attacks because they turn people off of participating in the party…

    Unless that has been your goal?

  47. Steve M

    Sam,

    “It was edited only for length and a link was given back to the original so anyone and everyone could read it for themselves.”

    Only the leading paragraph which referenced the attack upon himself was deleted. This wasn’t done for brevity, this was done to take it out of context!

  48. Jill Pyeatt

    Steve M: I get your point, but, for the record, there is exactly no context in which “pig fuck” or “Jewish Nigger” would be acceptable words in an email I would be reading.

  49. Steve M

    Jill, … the quote goes….

    “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”

    and thus we do not lynch people… no mater how much we might dislike them.

  50. Steve M

    its real simple… if you want leadership that behaves in a manor you think is ethical then you have to behave in an the same ethical manor as you select your leadership.

  51. Steve M

    it might be a major reason i don’t seek leadership… my own ethics don’t match what I demand of those who would govern me.

  52. paulie

    There is exactly no context in which “pig fuck” or “Jewish Nigger” would be acceptable words in an email I would be reading.

    Especially from someone who goes on to lecture others about being crass. If you take the tack that Stevens was provoked by Tarnoff, you can just as easily say that Reagan was provoked by Stevens.

  53. Dr. Tom Stevens

    Re: 72

    “Squeeze! Squeeze! Squeeze! all the morning long; I squeezed that sperm till I myself almost melted into it; I squeezed that sperm till a strange sort of insanity came over me, and I found myself unwittingly squeezing my co-labourers’ hands in it, mistaking their hands for the gentle globules. Such an abounding, affectionate, friendly, loving feeling did this avocation beget; that at last I was continually squeezing their hands, and looking up into their eyes sentimentally, as much as to say, – Oh! my dear fellow beings, why should we longer cherish any social acerbities, or know the slightest ill humour or envy! Come; let us squeeze hands all round; nay, let us all squeeze ourselves into each other; let us squeeze ourselves universally into the very milk and sperm of kindness.”

    ? Herman Melville, Moby-Dick

  54. Sam Kress

    #73

    Didn’t see anything about “Pig Fuck” or “Jewish Nigger” in there.

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