Open Thread for Discussing California Libertarian Convention, Weekend of April 5 – 7

The Libertarian Party of CA will hold their annual convention the weekend of April 5 to 7. It’s being held at the Concord Crowne Plaza in Northern California in Concord, and promises to be a great time as we elect some new officers and handle other party business.

I’m setting up this thread for anyone who wishes to notify the group of things that happen. I’ll do my best to check in here when I can, but I only have a Kindle so it will be slow typing.

110 thoughts on “Open Thread for Discussing California Libertarian Convention, Weekend of April 5 – 7

  1. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Sorry I haven’t checked in yet. Everyone seems a little subdued today, which is much different than last night. Our Friday evening event was standing room only, and the energy and excitement level was high. The after party also was standing room only . There are a lot of people here, including speakers from all across the country.

    I came down a little late this morning, and I missed Scott Horton’s breakfast meeting. We’re having officer reports now.

  2. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    We have had a terrible issue which involves infighting, restaurants kicking out members and refusing to host meetings meetings they’ve hosted for 20 yeats, female activists being frightened by other activists, talk of restraining orders_ s d more riDiculous and fund-raising events. The southern vice chair is giving his version of the events, which happens to be much different than my understanding of the events. However, he will not be running again, and I hope we can all get past this awful chapter. We knew there would be fireworks, but this is pretty weak. I hope this is it.

  3. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I’m listening to Michael Boldin from the Tenth Amendment Center. He is local here in L A , so I’ve heard him speak a couple times. If you haven’t heard him speak, I suggest you tune in to his blog.

  4. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    We are having discussions on bylaws changes. So far, nothing much has happened that would interest IPR readers (at least in my opinion).

  5. paulie

    Our Friday evening event was standing room only, and the energy and excitement level was high. The after party also was standing room only . There are a lot of people here, including speakers from all across the country.

    Is there a listing of the speakers? Photos? Videos? Coverage elsewhere?

  6. paulie

    I’ve been told there is a livestream. Haven’t seen the link but if anyone knows what it is, or I will post it if and when I find it.

  7. LibertarianGirl

    who can tell me who was on the mic giving the secretary a hard time with questions like she was on the stand? I know t was a Chair candidate. Joshua Smith? Also was in simple terms is the controversy surrounding the delegate list? thank you

  8. paulie

    Scrolling thru JBH FB

    Speakers mentioned:

    Larry Sharpe
    Candidate Training – Apollo Pazell
    Jeff Hewitt

    JBH mentioned Andy Craig is there although I don’t know if he is speaking. Last I heard Andy C moved to Maryland and works at Cato.

  9. Jill Pyeatt

    Robert Imhoff is also running for LPCA chair. He’s from No Ca and I don’t know much more than that. Speakers include Larry Sharp, Judge Gray, Alex Merced, Chris Rufer, Jacob Hornberger, Scott Horton, Nick Sarwark , Michael Boldin, Jeff Hewitt, Boomer Shannon.

  10. paulie

    DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    LIBERTARIAN PARTY OF CALIFORNIA 2019 CONVENTION DRAFT MINUTES
    CALL TO ORDER
    Called to order at 9:27.
    CREDENTIALING REPORT
    Secretary Angela McArdle gave the following Credentials Report:
    There are 84 delegates total,
    43 delegates are needed for a majority,
    56 delegates are needed for super majority, and
    9 delegates are needed for standing second.
    AGENDA
    Motion? :
    Aaron star moved with second to adopt the agenda.
    With no objections, the agenda was adopted.
    OFFICER REPORTS
    Chair’s Report
    Mimi Robson, Chair, provided a oral report and fielded questions at the meeting.
    Northern Vice Chair Report
    Kenneth Brent Olsen, Northern Vice Chair, provided an oral report and fielded questions at the
    meeting.
    Southern Vice Chair Report
    Jonathan Jaech, Southern Vice Chair, provided an oral report and fielded questions at the
    meeting.
    Credential Committee Report
    The delegate count has been updated as follows:
    100 delegates are present,
    51 delegates are needed for a majority,
    67 delegates are needed for a super majority, and
    10 delegates are needed for a standing second.
    Motion? :
    Angela McArdle moved with second that the credentials be corrected with
    the updated report.
    WIth no objections, the motion passed.
    Secretary Report
    Angela McArdle, Secretary, submitted a written report in advance, presented an oral report and
    fielded questions at the convention.DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    Angela McArdle offered to provide a supplemental report the following day regarding the
    following items (questions from the floor):
    ? The numbers on membership for past few years
    ? Include Bylaws & OPR on affiliates
    ? What counties are not affiliated
    Treasurer’s Report
    Steven Haug, Treasurer, submitted a report in advance, presented an oral report and fielded
    questions at the meeting.
    The meeting was adjourned at 11:59pm and reconvened at 1:48pm.
    Credentialing Report
    Secretary Angela McArdle gave the following Credentials Report:
    The updated delegate count is:
    115 delegates total,
    58 delegates are needed for a majority,
    78 delegates are needed for a super majority , and
    12 delegates are needed for a standing second.
    Motion? : Aaron starr moved with second to accept the new credentialed numbers.
    Vote? : Hearing no objection, the motion passed.
    Budget Committee Report
    Steven Haug, Treasurer, presented the Budget Committee Report and answered questions
    about the budget.
    Financial Standards Committee
    Tim Ferrera, Chair of the FInancial Standards Committee, presented an oral report and
    answered questions.
    Point of Information? : Bob Weber pointed out there is no objection to Steve Haug answering
    questions about the budget.
    Bylaws Committee Report
    Kenneth Brent Olsen, Chair of the Bylaws Committee, submitted a written report in advance,
    presented the report and fielded questions at the convention.
    Bylaws Amendment Proposal No. 1
    Motion? :
    Scott Lieberman moved with second to make it a debate item.DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    Point of Information? :
    Mark Hinkle asked “which page are you referring to?”.
    Motion? :
    Aaron Starr moved with standing second to amend the the bylaw
    proposal as follows: “in a subsequent year”.
    Bill Haidju called the question.
    Vote on the amendment:? The motion passed via voice vote.
    Point of Information? :
    Do Bylaw amendments go into effect immediately”
    Point of Information:
    What is the motion? Main motion as amended the proviso
    is that this will go into effect at the end of the convention.
    Point of Information:? Bob Weber asked if amendment constitutes a main motion?
    Aaron Starr withdrew his motion.
    Bylaws Proposal No. 2
    Motion? :
    Joe Dehn moved to amend the motion as “yellow sheets”
    Point of Information? : Tme main motion would elect 3 coordinators this year and 2 would be
    elected next year.
    Mark Hinkle called the question with second.
    Sam Sloan objected on procedural grounds and was overruled.
    Vote on substitute motion? : The motion passed via voice vote. (The substituted motion is now
    the main motion).
    Vote on main motion? :
    The motion fails via standing vote. (Bylaws Proposal 2 fails.)
    Bylaws proposal 3
    Motion? :
    Robert Imhoff moved with second to make a substitute motion
    Robert Imhoff called the question on the substitute motion.
    Vote? : The substitute motion fails via voice vote.
    Motion? : Robert Imhoff moved with second to extend time by 5 mins.DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    Objection.
    Vote? : Via voice vote, the motion to extend time fails.
    Vote on main motion? :
    Via voice vote, the motion fails.
    Bylaws proposal 4
    Motion? :
    Aaron Starr moved with second to amend the motion
    Bill Lopez called the question on the substitute motion.
    Motion? :
    The substitute motion passes via voice vote. (The substitute motion
    became the main motion.)
    Vote? : The main motion passes via voice vote.
    Motion? :
    Starchild moved with second to suspend the rules.
    Objection.
    Vote on main motion? :
    The motion to suspend the rules fails via voice vote.
    Bylaws proposal 5
    Point of Information:
    6.
    Ted Brown mentioned proposal doesn’t mention bylaw 9, section
    Amendment: The party shall be composed of the county central committees.
    Vote? : The amendment fails via voice vote.
    Motion? :
    Robert Imhoff moved with second that bylaws proposal 5 was out of
    order.
    The Chair ruled and was uncertain, therefore left it up to the body. Therefore, the body will vote
    on whether or not this proposal is out of order.
    Vote: By a voice vote, the motion passes and Bylaws Proposal 5 was ruled out of
    order.
    Bylaws Proposal 6DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    Motion? :
    follows:
    Scott Lieberman moved to divide the proposal into 2 separate motions, as
    The Executive Committee may transact business by email balloting when a motion is moved
    and seconded via email. All votes shall be counted and recorded by the secretary as roll call
    votes. E-mail motions will require the same number of votes as motions made at regular
    meetings. Alternates may vote, but their vote won’t be counted unless a corresponding at-large
    member fails to cast a ballot. Voting will end after 48 hours has passed and votes from 2/3 of
    the committee members have been received, or in 120 hours, whichever occurs first. Up until
    the vote is finalized, a member or alternate may change their vote. If, at the expiration of the
    applicable period a quorum of the Executive Committee has not voted, the measure being voted
    upon shall be deemed to have failed.
    ______________________
    The Executive Committee may also transact business by telephone conference or other
    electronic communications where the members can meet in real time. In such meetings, the
    normal rules of the committee apply as to quorums and voting. At least 7 days’ notice is
    required if business is to be transacted in such a fashion. The Secretary shall keep a record of
    the motions and votes from email, telephone and electronic balloting, and make them available
    in the same fashion as minutes from Executive Committee meetings.
    Motion? :
    Ted Brown moved “voting will end after 4 hours as passed and enough
    votes to pass the motion have been received”
    Motion? :
    Aaron Starr moved with second to postpone this item indefinitely
    Motion? :
    Bob Weber moved to amend Aaron Starr’s motion to postpone to definite
    time (1st item of business tomorrow morning.)
    Aaron Starr called for Orders of the day.
    Point of Information? :
    Ed Bowers asked if we started business tomorrow morning
    with bylaws? The Chair explained we would be starting tomorrow exactly where we are now.
    Point of Information? :
    Aaron Starr mentioned we were out of time on this matter so will
    need to move to extend time.
    Vote on time certain? :
    The motion fails via voice vote.
    Bill Lopez called the question.
    Vote? : The motion to postpone indefinitely passes via voice vote.
    Motion? :
    Joe Dehn moved with second to suspend rules to discuss item 8.DRAFT MINUTES – ANGELA MCARDLE – 2019 LPC CONVENTION
    Vote? : The motion fails via voice vote.
    Bylaws Proposal 7? :
    Motion? :
    to 30 days.
    Aaron Starr moved with second to amend the proposal to change 15 days
    Point of Information? : Joe Dehn …
    Motion? : Bob Weber moved with second to extend time for 15 mins.
    Motion? : Aaron Starr moved with second to extend time til we finish this item.
    Objection by Joe Dehn.
    Vote? : Substitute motion passes via voice vote (“15 to 30”)
    Vote? : Main motion passes via voice vote.
    Adjourned at 4:01.

  11. Jill Pyeatt

    The circus is starting today, an hour late. First order of business is to elect our new chair. Three candidates: Mimi Robson current chair), Robert Imhoff, and Joshua Smith.

  12. paulie

    Votes for chair being counted. No other candidates besides the ones Jill mentioned and NOTA. Vicechair: incumbent nominated. No other humans yet. He says he hopes someone else will be nominated so delegates get a choice.

  13. paulie

    Robson wins another term as chair on the first ballot. Now giving speech. Says she wants to work with the other candidates she won over.

  14. paulie

    Nominations for Secretary. Robson gives gavel back to Ted Brown, former LPCA chair who now lives in Texas. Paul Valladingham (sp?) nominated for Secretary. Jennifer Imhoff nominated. Couldn’t hear but I think she declined. No other humans nominated. Valladingham speech.

  15. paulie

    Missed some stuff with an incoming phone call. Pretty sure this is still the Secretary speech by the only human candidate.

  16. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Thanks,Paulie. I needed to clear my room, so thanks for announcing the chair and vice chair. I’ll editorialize and say I’m pleased Mimi won. She deserves another term to comp!ete her work as chair.

  17. paulie

    Treasurer speech. I think his name is Hogue. Apologies if I butchered spelling. Will check state website for spellings.

  18. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Autocorrect works in overdrive on this Kindle. Sorry about my typos . I’ll have to use something else next year if I try to do this.

  19. paulie

    https://ca.lp.org/executive-committee/

    Appears that the Secretary position changed hands, albeit without drama. Jill, did North and South both elect their vice chairs? I somehow forgot CA has two different Vice Chairs so it appears the Vice Chair reported above is only for the northern part of the state.

  20. paulie

    Place I am at is closing, need to wrap it up and catch a bus. Hope someone gets the rest til I am back at my place.

  21. NewFederalist

    Did James Ogle attend the California LP Convention? On another site (perhaps BAN) he seemed to be planning some of his fantasy politics mischief/nonsense. Perhaps he decided against it.

  22. paulie

    JBH calculated percentages for the chair race. I haven’t checked but assume this is accurate.

    California LP chair’s race:

    Mimi Robson: 92 (69%)
    Joshua Smith: 24 (18%)
    Robert Imhoff: 17 (13%)
    NOTA: 1

  23. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Ca has traditionally had two areas, Northern and Southern. Last year,convention delegates voted to break our state into 3 regions : Southern, Central and Northern. A!l 3 area coordinators ran unopposed. Elected were Jason Quigley, Central, Brandon Nelson, Northern, and Wendy Hewitt, Southern.

    Wendy is the wife of Jeff Hewitt, our recently rejected Riverside County Supervisor.

  24. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    We are hearing nominations and speeches from those nominated for At Large representative. There are 5 positions open.

  25. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    We are now voting. There are 10 candidates and the top five will be reprentatives. #5 will only have a 1-year term, but the rest will be 2-Year terms.

  26. paulie

    Starr update on Oxnard. He and city sued each other. Being appealed. City council ignored vote. Qualified four recalls for ballot.

  27. paulie

    Alternate nominations and speeches. Someone tried to nominate a dog, which was ruled out of order because the dog is not already a delegate. As far as I have noticed the other nominees so far are human.

  28. paulie

    Starchild motion to support bill which keeps sex workers from being arrested/prosecuted when they serve as witnesses or complaintants of violent crimes, and keeping condoms from being used as evidence of prostitution. CA SB 233

  29. paulie

    Mark Hinkle amendment to allow exec com to withdraw endorsement if the bill is amended later to something unlibertarian.

  30. paulie

    Aaron Starr endorsed for Oxnard City Council or Mayor, will decide which he will run for. I think there was one additional endorsement for LA City Council, I got distracted. Platform amendments next if I understood correctly.

  31. paulie

    Proposal for removing the state platform and using the national platform. Starchild and Sam Sloan opposed and, Starr in favor. Additional people speaking for and against.

  32. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Ooh, the group is waking up for the Platform Committee. They are proposing we ditch our state platform and adopt the National Platform. It appears many people don’t think that’s a good idea.

  33. paulie

    Clarification that this fixes the 2018 national platform, not all subsequent amendments of the national platform.

  34. paulie

    Adjournment failed. Recognizing CAH to speak failed. Joshua Smith moves to adopt statement of principles of the national platform as the CA platform.

  35. paulie

    Adjourned at 5:13 CA time. Robson thanks outgoing exec com and parliamentarian. New exec com meeting in 5 min.

  36. paulie

    Does is CA still have N and S vice chairs? Two listed on website but I only heard one mentioned and voted on.

  37. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    from Joe Bishop-Henchman: “California LP voted to repeal its lengthy 28-page platform. Efforts to instead adopt the National Platform or the national Statement of Principles won majorities of those in the room but not the requisite supermajority of registered delegates.”

    CM: Great triumph for Aaron Starr, abortion prohibitionists, foreign interventionist and other statist special interests in the party.

    Just found out https://www.lpmass.org/platform has just two planks on self-ownership and non-aggression. Like your average statist will think that means anything thing more than “no dictatorship, just solid democratic majority rule.” UGH….

    Who won for chair?

  38. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    OK, according to Joshua Smith who also ran: “I want to congratulate Mimi Robson for her absolute monster of a reelection. “

  39. paulie

    There are other state LPs which do not have a state platform. The explicit vote to adopt neither the state nor national platform may have been novel, I’m not sure.

  40. Scott Lieberman

    Don’t blame me – I was out of the room during the vote to delete the entire LP of California Platform.

    It is interesting that people who voted against the deletion of the entire Platform also voted against using the National LP Platform as an interim Platform. And now those very same people will now blame the practical LP members in California for the lack of a state Platform. The pro-old-Platform people even managed to prevent the state LP from adopting the National Statement of Principles as a interim state Platform.

    This is what many LP Radicals do when they lose – they would rather destroy what is left, instead of trying to work with the majority and get the best possible result.

  41. paulie

    Don’t blame me – I was out of the room during the vote to delete the entire LP of California Platform.

    Hadn’t even thought of blaming you but maybe people who want to have a state platform (or use the national platform) will be more careful to be in the room next convention when the vote happens.

    It is interesting that people who voted against the deletion of the entire Platform also voted against using the National LP Platform as an interim Platform.

    Mark Hinkle explained his reasoning as being that he would rather appeal the deletion of the state platform to the judicial committee. I don’t know on what grounds or whether that would have any legs.

  42. Seebeck

    Looking through the LPCA platform before it was massacred for the first time in 8 years. As of this writing, it’s still up on the LPCA website.

    Frankly, while the document was FAR too verbose and overloaded with unnecessary fluff, the principles in it were just fine.

    It deserved a cleanup, not a massacre.

    And frankly, the premise of hip-typing a state platform to the national platform is centralized nonsense, because different levels of government (and a political party) have different areas of concern, and in a bottoms-up org like the LP, centralization is a non-starter in principle and a failure in application.

    And Hinkle, he of the runaway LPCA JudComm from the Barnes felon pedophilia fiasco (the JudComm in its hearing violated the Bylaws in its hearing scope), hopefully learned his lesson about that and if he appeals it, will have good grounds, although I don’t think the JudComm appeal is useful in the first place if the body voted by more than the 3/4 veto-proof supermajority, which could overturn any JudComm decision at their next convention.

  43. Seebeck

    *hip-tying

    (When will IPR allow post-editing like all other platforms in this millennium???)

  44. paulie

    (When will IPR allow post-editing like all other platforms in this millennium???)

    Do you know a wordpress setting or plugin that does that? Alternatively, I can sign you up to post articles at IPR, even if you choose not to it gives you the ability to retro-edit your own comments.

  45. paulie

    It deserved a cleanup, not a massacre.

    Not my state, although I spent a lot of time there (especially in the early 2000s), but I agree.

  46. paulie

    And frankly, the premise of hip-typing a state platform to the national platform is centralized nonsense, because different levels of government (and a political party) have different areas of concern, and in a bottoms-up org like the LP, centralization is a non-starter in principle and a failure in application.

    Also agreed. Additionally, one problem was pointed out during the debate was that the motion did not specify that the LPCA platform would be updated along with the national platform, so from 2020 forward CA could have been stuck with an outdated national platform.

  47. paulie

    I don’t think the JudComm appeal is useful in the first place if the body voted by more than the 3/4 veto-proof supermajority, which could overturn any JudComm decision at their next convention.

    It was actually a pretty close vote – 36 to 32 – and may have conceivably overturned had it not been ruled that only people who voted the first time were eligible to vote on reconsideration. I’ve seen that provision in Roberts recently in looking it up for another state so I am not questioning the ruling.

  48. Jared

    paulie: “Do you know a wordpress setting or plugin that does that?”

    I was able to find a couple of well maintained plugins with excellent reviews:

    Simple Comment Editing by Ronald Huereca (basic)
    wpDiscuz by gVectors Team (feature-rich)

  49. Chuck Moulton

    Kudos to California for deleting their state platform! I hope all states follow suit.

    I have found over the years that state platform debates are acrimonious and waste a lot of valuable convention time. No one reads state platforms anyway. The public cares about candidate platforms.

    The time spent debating state platforms would therefore be much better spent vetting and nominating candidates. Too many states rubber stamp candidates who turn out to have crazy, unlibertarian positions as their key campaign talking points.

    Any state foolish enough to have a platform should limit it to only state issues — excluding anything as redundant already covered by the national platform. It should be a supplement not a substitute.

  50. paulie

    I was able to find a couple of well maintained plugins with excellent reviews:

    Simple Comment Editing by Ronald Huereca (basic)
    wpDiscuz by gVectors Team (feature-rich)

    Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll run them past Warren and if he has no objections we will try one of them out.

  51. paulie

    Problems with the CA voting procedures according to CAH on FB (excerpt):

    1. You cannot mass delete or mass adopt – the default is consideration by paragraphs UNLESS the assembly votes otherwise. The assembly was never given the option to vote otherwise.

    2. A point of inquiry as to whether a motion to reconsider was in order was said no, it was perfectly in order.

    3. Quorum was mess, and I (and voting delegates) dispute there was quorum.

    4. The delegates were instructed that they COULD NOT CHANGE THEIR VOTE MIDSTREAM and that is absolutely false. They have every right to change their vote until it is final.

    5. The parliamentarian voted from the dias. Highly improper and was raised multiple times and ignored. It does not matter if the parlimentarian was the deciding vote or not.

    6. Points of order were not dealt with immediately and members were confused when when they could raise them.

  52. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    The platform issue was a shock to the delegation. We were a;ll tired and ready to end the convention after the elections, then it was announced the Platform committee had a report. The chair (whom I don’t know, and whose name I missed), told us the platform committee had met four times and decided the 38-page platform was too long and complex to repair (my words, based on recall. I had a terrible case of ADD by that point). so, they thought we should remove it completely and replace it with the national platform. Everyone was shocked! There was no warning this was coming. I didn’t know our platform had grown to 38 pages, and that’s absurd. My experience is that most people don’t have the time or patience to read that much info. Plus, I believe that the more words that are in a document, the more words there are that someone can use to twist our meaning. Short and concise is my preference.

  53. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    There was so much wrong with the way this whole thing was presented. This possibility should have been floated at the beginning of the convention so people could think about it and discuss it during the weekend.
    They also should have had a copy of the national bylaws available so we’d know what the heck they wanted to replace the state’s with. I’m stunned that it was just dumped on us the last hour of the convention. How could anyone on that committee think there would be a good result presented that way?

  54. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    So was Aaron Starr manipulating the whole thing? He’s been trying to get rid of national platform for years.

    What % manipulation? What % incompetence?

    Glad to see some above clearly delineating what happened.

    Cleaning up platforms, as opposed to removing them, should be a priority.

  55. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I also missed Mark Hinkle’s comment about appealing to the judicial committee. I am one of the 5 people on that committee. Frankly, I don’t know how it could be appealed because I was there, The motion was properly voted on,, whether I agreed with the result or not, as far as I could tell.

  56. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Carol, apparently the platform has been controversial for some time. Some good people do feel it should have been abolished. I doubt that Aaron Starr had much to do with it. He hasn’t been active in the state party for years, and spends his time trying to get something done in the city in Oxnard, where he now lives with his wife Alicia Mattson.

  57. paulie

    Thanks for the suggestions. I’ll run them past Warren and if he has no objections we will try one of them out.

    Trying out Simple Comment Editing now. It seems to give users 5 minutes or so to edit comments after they post. I may try wpDiscuz in a few days to compare. If anyone has comments on how they like it please post them. Also if you have used both on any sites I would be interested in your thoughts on which is better, etc.

  58. paulie

    Aaron did speak in favor of deletion, if I remember correctly, but I am not aware of him playing any big role in it. I’m not sure what the basis of Hinkle’s appeal will be, but it may be the sort of parliamentary procedure challenge CAH spelled out (my comment yesterday @17:43).

  59. Seebeck

    It appears that Simple Comment Editing’s 5 minute timer still runs while editing instead of stopping, doesn’t reset after done editing, either, which could be problematic as the clock could run out in mid-edit, and then what happens?

    Of course, you could just shift to Disqus or spot.im…

  60. Seebeck

    OK, what happens when the timer runs out is that the edit is lost and it reverts.

    WordPress is kinda old, really.

  61. Jared

    SCE is mainly for quickly correcting typos, punctuation errors, etc. I don’t know for sure, but I suspect the edit will no longer be accepted once the timer runs out. There is a paid version with more options, but I haven’t looked into it.

    WordPress is still a great CMS with tons of flexibility. As with anything, there is a bit of a learning curve, but you can install free quality plugins to cover just about everything you would ever need for a professional blog or news site.

  62. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    Paulie wrote: “Aaron did speak in favor of deletion, if I remember correctly, but I am not aware of him playing any big role in it. ”

    Thanks for info on Aaron. He’s been working to abolish it for years so his effect probably is more in his proselytizing to like minded others over the years.

  63. Jonathan Jaech

    One problem with the vote to delete the platform: it violated the LPC’s Bylaws for amending the Platform (Rule 20), which states:
    “The Platform may be amended by deletion, substitution, or addition of any plank at any Party convention. The delegates may, by majority vote, delete a plank. The delegates, by a two-thirds vote, but not less than a majority of all registered delegates, may add a new plank, or substitute a new plank for an old plank.” Can the entire 38-page platform be considered a mere “plank” to be deleted by a simple majority vote? If an appeal is filed, the J.C. will decide.
    The motion to delete the entire platform was sprung on a tired delegation, many of whom assumed the big issues were over for the convention and had left. Maybe if the debate had not been so rushed someone would have raised Bylaw 20 as a point of order. My problem is not so much with the deleted platform but the statist culture of “rule by committee” taking root in the LPC. It was by a similar process of abbreviated debate that Bylaws Committee headed by Brent Olson eliminated the Northern and Southern Vice Chairs at the 2018 convention, replacing them with Northern, Central, and Southern “Area Coordinators” to give more representation to the redwood trees and centralize the party. Why the impatience to make structural changes, when the party’s main problem is cultural?
    Too many of the officers act like privileged rulers, not as servants of the membership. They do what they can to suppress dissent and push through their favored agendas, a few engage in serious character assassination against activists; a move is afoot to make meetings electronic so the Chair can have even more control. Conventions should be places where activists can come together and network, to grow the party and amplify the case for liberty. The officers should facilitate a well-attended, vibrant convention, preserve the party’s legal status with the State of California, and act as trustees of the party’s social capital. Too many act like the purpose of the convention is fight over power via offices and bylaws, year after year eroding social capital. Instead of resisting the cult of the omnipotent state, the officers emulate that which stinks.

  64. Carol Moore/Secession.net

    Excellent point, JJ. Hope their judicial committee takes it to heart.

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