“Death to Hillary Clinton, death to George Soros” says Augustus Invictus at Liberty Fest NYC; releases new book

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Austin Petersen and Augustus Invictus at Liberty Fest NYC

Augustus Invictus, a former candidate for the 2016 Libertarian Party of Florida’s U.S. Senate nomination and the chairman of the Libertarian Party of Orange County, Florida, spoke at Liberty Fest NYC on September 10th, 2016. His speech, posted below, is 8 minutes in length and was uploaded to YouTube on September 13th:

Steve Scheetz, the former chairman of the Libertarian Party of Pennsylvania who endorsed Invictus before the LPF primary, attended Liberty Fest NYC and told this ATPR editor that probably around 150 people participated in the event. Scheetz said that likely 60-75 people listened to Austin Petersen deliver a speech, and said there were two rooms at the event.

Regarding Invictus, Scheetz told this editor that there are a “variety of characters within the Libertarian movement”:

When discussing the variety of characters within the Libertarian Movement, there are many types. There are those like Gary Johnson who has a smooth style that resonates with people who have only known the current dysfunctional state of politics where people feel like they are forced to vote for the lesser evil in order to have something horrible happen. These people see Gary as someone who is not too terribly far removed from this comfort zone, (for lack of a better term) and they may actually do something this cycle that we have not seen since Ross Perot!

Needless to say there are many within the movement who believe the Johnson Weld crowd to be a bunch of sellouts, or to be people who are not really on board philosophically with “real Libertarians.” There are those like Augustus Sol Invictus, and say what you will, but when speaking to him, I found a calm articulate gentleman. He will tell anyone who will listen that the real him is the man up on stage calling for revolution, because this country is a mess and we really need to do something in order to jumpstart the change! I like Augustus. There are things he says that resonate, there are things he says that make me cringe, and yet, just like Gary Johnson, there is room at the table.

To me, it is all about the message. We are all trying to win hearts and free minds, and whether it is Gary Johnson whose tepid delivery is designed to get a foot in the door, or Augustus Invictus who wants to blow the door off of its hinges, each of us has a part to play in pushing that message. Continuing with this thought, there are many of us that fall in between the two extremes I have mentioned. I am part of the Radical Caucus, and I believe that many of us, even those who believe themselves to be “minarchists” are on the same page philosophically, it is just a matter of timing before it is realized that there is no better government than no government! How do we get there from here? My vision is in line with many others in this regard, and that is the idea that we will create the solution, and once it is up and running, we will start transferring the monopolistic government “services” to the free market. This will obviously not happen overnight, but the more power transferred from the government to the free market (and almost the first order of business is to free the market!) the more people will see that they really don’t need a monopoly in charge of their lives. I am longing for the day when Government becomes obsolete, and I will work with Libertarians of all stripes in order to make that day come to pass!

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Invictus recently released a book entitled “The Great War: Speeches & Broadcasts from the Invictus for Senate Campaign,” which chronicles his recent campaign. The 384-page book’s description reads:

A compilation of the speeches and broadcasts from the campaign of Augustus Invictus for the United States Senate, beginning with the announcement of his candidacy on 18 May 2015 and ending with the announcement of his defeat on 30 August 2016.

Other speakers and notable participants included Larry Sharpe (the runner-up for the Libertarian Party’s 2016 presidential nomination), third place VP finisher Will Coley, YouTube personality  Julie Borowski and, as previously mentioned, 2016 LP presidential runner-up Austin Petersen as well as fourth place finisher Darryl W. Perry.

Max Dickstein, one of the founders of Jews for Augustus Invictus and a former editor at the American Third Party Report, published an article on Liberty Hangout two days ago about the event and Invictus’ appearance titled “Austin Petersen & Augustus Invictus Steal Show at Liberty Fest, Gary Johnson Absent.” Petersen’s speech has not yet been uploaded to YouTube as of this article’s publication time.

Invictus is rumored to be considering another campaign in either 2018 or 2020.

 

58 thoughts on ““Death to Hillary Clinton, death to George Soros” says Augustus Invictus at Liberty Fest NYC; releases new book

  1. Shivany Lane

    This speech is disturbing.

    I will never support any form of violence. I am less afraid of the federal government than I am of someone like this who would openly call for murdering people. That is why I would never support Trump. Yes our government has done horrible things and murdered countless millions of people. That needs to stop. Killing people in the federal government will not solve that. I understand he did not mean that literally, but I am a sane person. If just one person takes him literally then he has blood on his hands. But having blood on his hands is something he has had before when he sacrificed the goat. (Who knows if that is the only thing he has sacrificed).

  2. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    “If just one person takes him literally then he has blood on his hands. ”

    No. He does not have any blood on his hands, unless it’s goat’s blood.

    I support Invictus all the way. I have a lot of his speeches to catch up on, as well as interviews. Invictus is one of a kind, a principled Libertarian who seeks to transcend the spectrum and break down barriers by uniting all those opposed to an encroaching 1984 type Big Government state. He is a phenomenon, and I can assure you he’s not done with electoral politics. He’s also a brilliant writer. His LSD journals and “Black Pilgrimage” are what I’m looking for to read.

    If you want change, it doesn’t happen incrementally. Libertarianism is a radical concept that has been fringe for decades. Whether or not JWeld are libertarians is not my concern – they are not radical. Radicalism is how one can affect change, and this will always make some uncomfortable, especially the powers-that-be.

    Here is my article about Invictus from primary day in Florida:

    https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/08/30/floridians-change-the-course-of-history-and-nominate-augustus-invictus-for-u-s-senate-today/

    I am looking to retrieve his “Black Pilgrimage” and LSD journals as well.

  3. Mr. Brown

    Hillary Clinton has secret service protection, so maybe this nazi nutcase “Invictus” will be getting a visit from them soon for terroristic threats. Maybe he will get a cell next to his “good friends” from the neo-nazi American Front white power skinhead organization.

  4. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    What is so hard to understand by four half Hispanic children? Invictus has four half Hispanic children.

    He cannot be neo-Nazi just by that alone – he’d get lynched by the Stormfront crowd, and probably did online, though I don’t know for sure.

    I actually read Invictus’ platform, I’ve listened to his interviews, speeches, statements, and am looking for his essays “Black Pilgrimage” and LSD journals. There is nothing “neo-Nazi” about him.

    Anyone can play the guilt by association game. Bill Weld is a member of CFR for crying out loud, yet Libertarian Party members consider HIM to be the “original libertarian”….not Rothbard, not Ron Paul, not Lew Rockwell….no, Libertarian Party members – at least a substantial amount -consider a moderate, gun grabbing, Romney/Obama/John Kasich endorsing Republican with close ties to a KNOWN war criminal wanted for crimes against Serbia as the “original libertarian.”

    Don’t believe me? Then how do you explain that he won over 50% of the vote necessary to secure the nomination?

    If he is a neo-Nazi, why are there pro-Israel, religious conservative Jews supporting Invictus? I know two of them, both have actually written for American Third Party Report. And don’t forget he was endorsed by a black office holder in Florida, Keon Antonio Grayson.

    “Everyone I don’t like is literally Hitler” – this is the problematic opinion held by the worshipers in the Church of Political Correctness.

  5. AMcCarrick

    “Invictus has four half Hispanic children.” They’re not half-hispanic. You either are or you’re not. Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race; and you can’t be half an ethnicity. It would be like being half Canadian or half English.

    Hispanic is simply defined as some one who actively engages in practicing Spanish culture; speaking Spanish on a regular basis, eating Spanish foods, etc. People can in fact be ‘Hispanicised’.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hispanicization

  6. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    We can argue about semantics – I will check out this Wiki article – but his children are mixed regardless – that disqualifies him from literally every single neo-Nazi organization or circle in the country.

    I think they are half Puerto Rican – something like that – you can be half Polish and half Irish, for example.

  7. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    I recommend watching the 9 minute speech, and also reading the article – it’s pretty short:

    Regarding Invictus, [Steve] Scheetz (former LP Pennsylvania chair) told this editor that there are a “variety of characters within the Libertarian movement”:

    When discussing the variety of characters within the Libertarian Movement, there are many types. There are those like Gary Johnson who has a smooth style that resonates with people who have only known the current dysfunctional state of politics where people feel like they are forced to vote for the lesser evil in order to have something horrible happen. These people see Gary as someone who is not too terribly far removed from this comfort zone, (for lack of a better term) and they may actually do something this cycle that we have not seen since Ross Perot!

    Needless to say there are many within the movement who believe the Johnson Weld crowd to be a bunch of sellouts, or to be people who are not really on board philosophically with “real Libertarians.” There are those like Augustus Sol Invictus, and say what you will, but when speaking to him, I found a calm articulate gentleman. He will tell anyone who will listen that the real him is the man up on stage calling for revolution, because this country is a mess and we really need to do something in order to jumpstart the change! I like Augustus. There are things he says that resonate, there are things he says that make me cringe, and yet, just like Gary Johnson, there is room at the table.

    To me, it is all about the message. We are all trying to win hearts and free minds, and whether it is Gary Johnson whose tepid delivery is designed to get a foot in the door, or Augustus Invictus who wants to blow the door off of its hinges, each of us has a part to play in pushing that message. Continuing with this thought, there are many of us that fall in between the two extremes I have mentioned. I am part of the Radical Caucus, and I believe that many of us, even those who believe themselves to be “minarchists” are on the same page philosophically, it is just a matter of timing before it is realized that there is no better government than no government! How do we get there from here? My vision is in line with many others in this regard, and that is the idea that we will create the solution, and once it is up and running, we will start transferring the monopolistic government “services” to the free market. This will obviously not happen overnight, but the more power transferred from the government to the free market (and almost the first order of business is to free the market!) the more people will see that they really don’t need a monopoly in charge of their lives. I am longing for the day when Government becomes obsolete, and I will work with Libertarians of all stripes in order to make that day come to pass!

    Worth a read ^.

  8. Thomas Knapp

    Invictus’s attempt to hijack the Libertarian Party’s ballot line in Florida failed pretty miserably. Presumably this stuff is just him trying to cash in a little on his notoriety before moving on to the next entryist hostile takeover attempt (my guess: Reform Party).

  9. Tony From Long Island

    A book of speeches given by some guy who got trounced in a primary from a small party? Really? And I thought Trump was a narcissist . . .

    Great pic Petersen . . . good optics . . .

  10. Shivany Lane

    “This speech is disturbing.”

    Your comment was more so…

    How is my comment disturbing? Because I do not believe in violence? Or that I am more afraid of an unhinged man and his posse than I am of the feds?

  11. Tony From Long Island

    Shivany Lane said ” . . . . . How is my comment disturbing? Because I do not believe in violence? Or that I am more afraid of an unhinged man and his posse than I am of the feds? . . . . ”

    Are we talking about Invictus . . . or TRUMP? could fit either

  12. Gene Berkman

    George Soros has put millions of dollars into campaigns to legalize marijuana and end the war on drugs. He has funded his Open Society Institute to promote concepts of human rights in former socialist countries in East Europe. He spend tens of millions of dollars trying to defeat George W Bush in 2004.

    George Soros is much more a champion of freedom than Augustus Invictus (sic).

    Can’t be a Nazi if you have Hispanic children? I guess that lets Francisco Franco off the hook, along with a number of South American caudillos whose names you would not recognize.

  13. Tony From Long Island

    ” . . . . . Invictus is rumored to be considering another campaign in either 2018 or 2020. . . . . ”

    Sigh . . . .

  14. dL

    “How is my comment disturbing?”

    “If just one person takes him literally then he has blood on his hands. But having blood on his hands is something he has had before when he sacrificed the goat. (Who knows if that is the only thing he has sacrificed).”

    You sound like a narc or a snitch. I have problem with Invictus on a number of things, but “overthrow the crown” is not an incitement to start killing people ora call for the propaganda of the deed. You also called Snowden a traitor on Knappser’s blog and apparently harbor disappointment that the feds didn’t get their torturous meathooks into him. Anyone who challenges the US Govt, peacefully challenges the US Govt, fears the feds much more than a nobody like Invictus.

  15. Shivany Lane

    Gene Berkman:
    George Soros knows what it is like to live under the thumb if tyranny which is why he does so much to fight tyranny, Ever since he donated money and time against the Bush war machine, they have targeted him. They being the corporate war machine.

    Maybe Invictus is an FBI plant. Has he been properly vetted? I wouldn’t trust him until he proves he doesn’t work for the FBI. That’s what they used to do to the hippies. infiltrate them, incite violence then arrest the,.

  16. Shivany Lane

    dL

    I don’t recall calling Snowden a traitor. I do recall questioning his motives.

    I am allowed my opinions. if I feel that releasing unredacted information that could put government employees (foreign operatives) in danger, yes I have a problem with that.

    With free speech comes great responsibility. One must remember that at all rimes.
    Time will tell what is what. I certainly do not want them to get heir meat hooks into him. I deplore violence of any kind. The state has no right to harm me anymore than I have the right to harm you.

    Facts, it seems, have taken a back seat this year since many people have lied and no one challenges the lie, You are living in 1984 dystopia, however it is not the government who are watching you. Do you cover your webcam with tape? You might want to start,

    Also I am deeply offended by you calling me a narc. I have never narced on anyone in my entire life. Now I remember why I stopped commenting here. You all have your own versions of Godwin that you whip out when you can’t win logically.

  17. Andy

    Shivany Lane said: “Maybe Invictus is an FBI plant. Has he been properly vetted? I wouldn’t trust him until he proves he doesn’t work for the FBI. That’s what they used to do to the hippies. infiltrate them, incite violence then arrest the,.”

    I heard that a Libertarian Party member did a FOIA request to see if they could find anything like this out about Invictus, and I heard that they did get files back, but I never found out what was in the content of those files.

    Does anyone know if this is true, and if so, who did the FOIA request, and where can we see a copy of it?

  18. Sean Scallon

    “He is a phenomenon, and I can assure you he’s not done with electoral politics. ”

    He’s a loser. End of discussion.

  19. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    Sean, you are entitled to your opinion. I will just point out, that Invictus, this “loser” garnered more media attention than any other LP down ticket candidate combined and has created a substantial, nationwide and even international following. He has generated a new discussion and has transcended the spectrum.

    He is someone with incredible intelligence, oratory skills, writing ability and courage – you can dislike him because you are opposed to his ideas that are quite mainstream on the Old Continent – at least, they are becoming mainstream – it is a mixture of paleolibertarianism with non-chauvinistic healthy nationalism. The freedom Invictus is looking for America is one that is logically consistent with not just Christian principles and the ideals that made Western Civilization great – he is also willing to engage in dialogue with everyone:

    From the most margilized and stereotyped by Hollywood in our society:
    To the victims of the “War on Terror”
    The “War on Drugs’ (of which he’s a victim personally, and top one too as well)
    Zionist Jews – Invictus is an anti-Zionist, but he sees the need to come together and build tactical alliances where common ground can be from – several Jews created the “Jews for Augustus Invictus” Facebook page
    Ethnocentrists
    Pagans
    Christian ethnonationalists
    Paleolibertarians
    …even those who are not paleolibetarian but a different flavor of libertarian.

    You can call him a “loser” all day, but he’s going to be around for the long haul, I can promise you that. I believe he has his 9th child on the way. Do “losers” have 9 children? In this society, everyone is taught to hold abortion on a pedestal, disrespect the fact that life begins from conception, and the media pushes a one or less child narrative- and also encourages fatherless children be demonizing fathers and taking away their legal rights – as well as pushing pornography as a way to demoralize the population, pornography, hard alcohol, gambling, heavy drugs….all pushed by the New World Order to break up familes, communites and nations and turn every dweller on earth into a McDona’ds and Walmart dwelling, conformist, overweight and caring more about a moving image on a screen or carnal desirs of the flesh than his family, people, culture, heritage and history – think like an animal, rather than see the bigger picture.

    Goat blood? Is that your issue with Invictus? I’m at traditionalist Catholic, and it does not bother me one bit. I aim to see the bigger picture to the best of my abilites, and so does Invictus.

    I look forward to Invictus’ political future…and I will be purchasing his new book within the next several days.

  20. Shivany Lane

    AFAIK, you can’t do a FOIA request on an individual person. You can on a group or an event but not single out a person, unless it is yourself or someone you are the guardian of.

    I could be wrong and have been wrong before, however, I think it it is a violation of your privacy for someone to be able to find out everything the government knows about , say , a political opponent.

  21. Shane

    Shivany, your reasoning makes sense but isn’t correct. I’ve done FOIA’s on everyone from Alex Jones to Beyonce and had data returned — and during my days as a director of Judicial Watch, we did requests for keywords of individuals all of the time.

    SSN’s etc would be redacted and sometimes they even redact names, but data is returned.

    Hope that helps.

  22. Andy

    “Shane
    September 19, 2016 at 17:41
    Shivany, your reasoning makes sense but isn’t correct. I’ve done FOIA’s on everyone from Alex Jones to Beyonce and had data returned — and during my days as a director of Judicial Watch, we did requests for keywords of individuals all of the time.”

    Can you post this stuff online if it is not already available online?

  23. Shivany Lane

    Shane, nope that doesn’t help, that disturbs me.

    So anyone with my real name can file a FOIA request and find out anything they want that any of our little alphabet soup of agencies has on me? When we were going through the process of getting a security clearance, we were told that no one else would be able to see this information. They ask you lots of personal things.\

    If what you say is true, why should a hacker go through the trouble of hacking any database? they can just call up the FBI. I guess investigative journalism is no longer a position since I can just call Joe at the FBI.

    In other words, what you say may very well be true, I would like more than just your word to go with that. Or are you too young to remember when all the Vietnam Protesters had to wait until they could get their FBI files and some of them only got one page? And those FBI plants I spoke about, we never did find out who they were.

  24. Shane

    A, JW posts relevant returns on their site.

    My last federal one was regarding national Opt-Out Day with the TSA. Jones promoted it and the TSA turned off their full body scanners that day to kill the protest. They denied doing it.

    It took them two years to complete the search and honestly we should have sued during that time.

    I’ll have to find the docs but of course they showed nothing.

    My most recent one was at the state level in Texas for a homeowner who was being harassed by local government on a property issue. They refused to fully comply with the TORA request but giving them a but more time as they backed off from fining the homeowner.

  25. Shane

    Shivany, personnel records and I’m sure a lot of other stuff is protected from FOIA. For instance, Lee Harvey Oswald’s service record book that shows he was a horrible shot was never released.

    But if someone in say the FEC sent an email to someone with your name on it regarding a political or other matter, it would be public record.

  26. Andy

    “Shane
    September 19, 2016 at 18:28
    Shivany, personnel records and I’m sure a lot of other stuff is protected from FOIA. For instance, Lee Harvey Oswald’s service record book that shows he was a horrible shot was never released.

    But if someone in say the FEC sent an email to someone with your name on it regarding a political or other matter, it would be public record.”

    It is my understanding that you can get complete FOIA requests on dead people (minus redactions).

  27. Shivany Lane

    Shane,

    That is all I was saying. That I as a private citizen cannot find out what records the FBI has kept on you. I can find out about a specific incident or a specific day but not the whole enchilada.

    The FEC is public records. I can go on the FEC and the SEC website and find all of the flings, actions, information, approvals, etc. That is how George Phillies gives us the Johnson/Weld financial updates.
    I can find out how much money they spent on food and beverages. I cannot find out if they used Little Ceasars or Papa Johns. At least I don’t think it goes down to that granular a level.

    I think I will test out your assertion. I’ll get back to you and let you know what I find out. If it costs me any money though, I can’t afford it, just to prove a point.

    BTW. You don’t submit a FOIA request from the FEC. You just go to their website when they have posted the documents. Prior to the internet, and hes the world existed before the internet, you would simply call or write to them and they would send them to you.

  28. Thomas Knapp

    “I can find out how much money they spent on food and beverages. I cannot find out if they used Little Ceasars or Papa Johns. At least I don’t think it goes down to that granular a level.”

    Actually, it sometimes does.

    Many people remarked on the number of times that Michael Badnarik’s 2006 congressional campaign had “dinner meetings” and “business lunches” at Outback Steak House.

  29. Shivany Lane

    Thomas – You know I can’t read that meshuge website. How many degrees does George have and he still sometimes finds it confusing. I am but a simple uneducated waif. What with my unpopular opinions and my having to be corrected and scolded all the time for using the wrong words or phrases.

    Now for a bit on FOIAs because I have filed a few in my day, just not with the FBI.

    The Freedom of Information Act allows any person—except fugitives, federal agencies, and foreign intelligence agencies—to request information about organizations, businesses, investigations, historical events, incidents, groups, or deceased persons.

    Another living person:

    If your request is for information about another living person, that information is usually not disclosed unless you have obtained the person’s written consent or unless public disclosure is authorized by law. Requests for information about another living person should be accompanied by evidence of the subject’s consent. Please use U.S. Department of Justice Certification of Identity Form DOJ-361 and complete the section identified as: Authorization to Release Information to Another Person. You may submit an attachment listing additional information that may aid in locating responsive records. Please place your name and contact information on the attachment.

    Since the FBI is currently closed, I will be phoning them tomorrow to get more clarification about the information I have just posted. The Government Alphabet Soup may know what I had for breakfast, but I am pretty sure they will not allow you to know that unless it is related to a one of the exceptions listed above, like I was waiting breakfast in Waco, Texas during the standoff.

  30. Sean Scallon

    ” I believe he has his 9th child on the way. Do “losers” have 9 children?”

    I hope you’re not one of those who complains about single mothers on welfare having lots of kids. Losers?

    I’m not going to get into an extended debate. All I know is the Libertarian voters of Florida have spoken and basically saved the arse of a feckless state party by registering the verdict that Invictus is not the kind of person they want representing them on the ballot or in the media when it comes to this year’s election. And if Western Christian Civilization has to be saved by someone who would have been burned at the stake for his activities back in the day when that same civilization was at its peak, then you’ve condemned yourself as laughable.

    But I guess its par for the course for all those who think Trump is going to save America. There’s not much difference, just desperate delusions.

  31. Shivany Lane

    “Do “losers” have 9 children?”

    Depends upon your criteria for winning and losing.

    9 children could represent 4 aces and a 5, pretty winning hand.

  32. Jeremy Siple

    I am an anarchist. I believe the State should be dissolved. There are two ways to achieve this: through violence, or through peace. I am a member of the Libertarian Party because I believe only the latter is moral.

  33. Thomas L. Knapp

    “So the Revolution of 1776 was immoral?”

    Interesting question. The Revolution of 1776 began in 1775 when British troops attempted to confiscate colonists’ arms. It was defensive in character and only became a revolution after more than a year of pleas by the colonists for the British to stop attacking. It would be a strange war if immoral things didn’t take place within the context of the fighting, of course, but self-defense is not itself immoral.

    The counter-revolution of 1787 was certainly immoral, though.

  34. John Burd

    “If you want change, it doesn’t happen incrementally.” – Krzysztof Lesiak
    Yet inrementally is exactly how we got here LOL. You can cut out the princippled warrior crap. AI is about the worship from his minions such as yourself. Not to mention giving the FBI a cover story to put us all on the list of violent subversives.
    How can anyone advocate violence and call themselves Libertarian? Has anyone read the oath lately? It is an embarassment to the party that AI was cheered and not tossed out on his arse. Period.

  35. Andy

    I am not a supporter of Invictus Augustus, but the principle of violent revolution against a tyrannical government is justified.

  36. Shivany Lane

    OK, First off, I doubt at least half of you have no idea what a real Tyrannical Government looks like. Are your movements restricted? Are you jailed for posting on this forum? Do we have slave labor camps where we put the people who practice a religion we don’t like? Do we harvest organs from those people? Are you in danger of having a mountain of mud bury you and your family’s home because someone richer than you decided that the field right next to your house would be a good place to put the mud he is digging so he can build his building?

    Are you starving? Do you work for $10 a day which is barely enough for your family to live on. Oh and the best thing of all, when you go out to dinner, does the restaurant tack on a surcharge for “clean air”? What I have described is just China. Don’t even get me started on North Korea or all of the Banana Republics we exploit on a daily basis.

    There are some Americans that need to leave their comfortable gated communities and go into one of these countries and actually look past the Tourist section. Or didn’t you know that they have sections for the tourists? You can recognize the tourist police because they usually try to look like tourists but they are keeping their eyes on their own citizens to make sure you are not mugged or kidnapped or led away to be robbed then killed. Give me a fucking break with your Tyrannical Government. You have no idea how good you really have it here in this “Tyrannical Country”.

    By the way, I called my lo9cal FBI office. I am allowed to file a FOIA on myself. If an incident happened that is either within the public’s interest or that I was personally involved in, I can file a FOIA for documents concerning the incident. That doesn’t mean they will name everyone involved or everything involved.

    They have a really nifty FBI Vault that hs information about incidents and people of historical interest, like during the McCarthy era and info about Martin Luther King Jr. You don’t even have to file a FOIA for that. It’s all right there, searchable and in PDF format.

    You all do know that in the UK there are cctv cameras everywhere and they can pull up footage of anything that happens in any of their towns and cities? That is really invasion of privacy.

    Even if you are being Rhetorical, calling for anyone’s death will make me disassociate with you faster than the Roadrunner. I will NEVER support murder of anyone. FULL STOP. If the Libertarian Party is moving in this direction I will start looking for a new tribe to join.

  37. Shivany Lane

    Well now, my inbox had 4 comments from 4 different people that seem to not show up here. It’s a good thing because it was clearly a statement from a 12 year old who has a very limited vocabulary but they used different monikers.

    So it consisted of a command for presumably me to STFU (see what I did there, I made it less crass)
    then it was followed by calling me a name. I presume the “you” meant me
    Then “stupid”, sorry to disappoint, however I am quite the opposite of stupid. In fact I have a high IQ. Interesting story, I have written to my old elementary school to see if I can find out just how high it is. Not that numbers or labels mean much it is just something on my bucket list.
    Then we come to that most horrible of nouns that the most Neanderthal of all men use to describe a woman. It is probably because they spend 9 months trying to get out and then a lifetime trying to get back in. Yet men who use such language rarely get to lay eyes on a real human one so they have to order theirs via mail order.

    There, did I just about cover your comment you thought would offend me? People with more courage and definitely “larger hands” than yours have tried so much harder than you. I suggest you go back to male pig school to learn better words, or did you flunk out?

  38. John Burd

    “I am not a supporter of Invictus Augustus, but the principle of violent revolution against a tyrannical government is justified.” – Andy
    And about that oath?

    The Founders gave us:
    – The 10th amendment. Have you educated your legislaters about it? I have.
    – The principle of the concent of the governed. Have you educated your legislaters & DA about it? I have.
    – Jury nullification. Have you passed out the FIJA phamphlets? I have.
    – Constable and Sheriff interposition. Have you talked to your constable(s), sheriff & DA about it, and encouraged liberty minded people to run for those positions? I have. And FIVE ppl I know are now constables.
    If you have done none of this then you are not a freedom figher, you a punk ass punk trouble maker for the FBI. Because this is all we need to win. You start shoting and TPTB will put us all in a cage.
    Go advocate violence somewhere else.

  39. Thomas L. Knapp

    Shivany,

    The deleted comments were from an idiot troll who goes by various names but is usually called “Nathan Norman” (whether or not that is the idiot troll’s real name any more than “Moses Austwin,” “Magnus Dahlstrøm,” etc., I have no idea). IPR editors go through an delete the idiot troll’s idiot troll posts whenever they notice said posts.

    I’m thinking of starting a crowdfunding campaign to hire someone to track the idiot troll down and do serious damage to his gear (I’ll leave which gear I’m talking about to your imagination).

    Now, tyrannical countries:

    I’ve spent time in a monarchy that cuts people’s heads off and that at the time functioned overtly as a military dictatorship. One reason I’m a libertarian is to keep the US from turning into something like that. And it’s a fight we’re losing.

    The US network of surveillance cameras, etc. is, in its urban commercial centers, probably at least as extensive as the UK’s. And then of course there are electronic surveillance schemes like PRISM, etc. which are probably far more reliable and thorough than TV cameras. If you go anywhere with your cell phone, the government knows exactly where you are at all times if it wants to — and even if it doesn’t, it can almost certainly change its mind later and find out where you WERE. The US surveillance state’s capabilities make Orwell’s 1984 nightmare look like a pleasant picnic outing.

  40. Shivany Lane

    Thomas my dear friend,

    You are exactly correct. Our country is headed in the wrong direction and has been for quite some time. These things do not happen overnight, nor do they happen without a certain amount of consent from “the people”. They cause us to live in fear. Divide us. Make us suspicious of one another. With each political cycle I become more and more troubled by the rights that “we the people” continue to relinquish in the name of safety, security, defense, patriotism, whatever works in your area of the country.

    We here in California do not experience it as brutally or as raw as other parts of the country but pull away a little of our redwood veneer and it is there. As a child I used to run around the neighborhood with my friends, go to the park go to each other’s houses and there were no worries. As long as we were were home for our curfew it was fine.

    My children enjoyed many of those same freedoms. As long as I knew where they were, which was usually my house because lets face it I’m a cool mom, no one worried. Kids would stay for dinner then walk home. I would stand on the sidewalk and watch them until they turned into their own walkways, that was all the security we needed. Parents looked after each other’s kids, we trusted each other and had no reason not to.

    My lily white children played with an entire rainbow color of other children, they never noticed and neither did we. When my children were toddlers, we never even locked our back door because there really was no crime in town. Actually we had apple orchards around us and occasionally a teenager and his buddies would get some old guy to buy them a six pack of beer and they would drive their dad’s car through the orchard weaving in and out of the trees like an obstacle course. It never ended well. But no one ever seriously got hurt, except the kid who borrowed Dad’s car! LOL

    Now we see a turban or a head scarf and we freak.Every package left on the street is suspicious. We have an entire generation that is growing up in a world where we have always been at war. It is 1984 and it scares the shit out of me. This is why we need to support our down ticket candidates. change starts locally. We are all up in arms about Gary Johnson not being in the debates, screw that… who will be in your local legislature when the next census is run and the next round of redistricting is drawn? Yes the President is important. but whether it is Obama, Hillary, Trump, or Micky Mouse sitting in the oval office, who is policing your streets? who is killing your children? Who is choosing their textbooks? Who will determine if your neighborhood is worth the money to put up a traffic light so kids walking to school do not get hit by cars who are driving too fast and checking their phones?

    This is my point. We are not there yet. We are headed there. So don’t yell fire in the white house before we put out the fires in our own state capitals. Does that make sense? People blow some of this stuff way out of proportion. VOTE..Get your neighbor to VOTE…Then walk down the street ringing a bell, calling everyone out to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE. But vote for the good of your city, your county, your state, and yes…your country. I can’t stress it enough, who will be in that state house when the census is done and the districts are drawn. That already screwed us royally once. Next census is 2020, we are running out of time.

  41. Shivany Lane

    Oh yeah, I forgot to add, Calling for the death of Hillary, Obama and George Soros will do no good at all.
    No one is perfect but George Soros is not that bad of a guy.
    You cut the head off the snake, it grows a new one. Simple logic.

  42. Shivany Lane

    This:
    False Shooter Alarms and Mass Hysteria: The New Normal?
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2159027-false-shooter-alarms-and-mass-hysteria-the-new-normal

    The initial spark—people panicking after hearing gunshot-like noises—comes about because people have developed symptoms similar to post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD), according to Lieberman. (a psychologist quoted in the story)

    *********************************
    And Meanwhile This Is happening and no one is noticing:
    Sinkhole in Florida Leaking Radioactive Waste Into Drinking Water
    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2160922-sinkhole-in-florida-leaking-radioactive-water-into-drinking-water/

    A large sinkhole in Florida that opened recently is leaking radioactive waste into the aquifer that people use for drinking water.
    As a result, residents in Polk County, Florida, requested water quality testing.
    The sinkhole appeared at the Mosaic phosphate fertilizer plant on Aug. 27, but the firm only reported it several days ago. The plant is located about 30 miles from Tampa.
    ***********************************

    But yeah let’s drink beer and call for a revolution. Our country is much larger and much more complicated than it was in 1776 and at this point we would just be ousting the old assholes and putting in the bnew ones like MR. “I drink goats blood”. Do you think he can solve our problems???

  43. Thane Eichenauer

    Shivany Lane commented above, “Calling for the death of Hillary, Obama and George Soros will do no good at all.
    No one is perfect but George Soros is not that bad of a guy.
    You cut the head off the snake, it grows a new one. Simple logic.”

    I lean against such calls but it does give voice to the feelings some people have. As for Soros not being that bad of a guy that would depend on what actions he has taken. Has he funded rioting throughout the United States? I don’t know but some people allege that. If so that seems like a bad guy to me.
    As for the simple logic of a snake growing a new head, if a snake gets decapitated the replacement head might decide to avoid behavior that lead to decapitation.

    Thank you for all your comments even those I do not agree with. Have a good day.

    http://selfadoration.com/how-do-you-look-out-for-your-own-in-the-peoples-banana-republic-of-amerikistan-proficient-rebellion/8260

  44. John Burd

    Shivany Lane: George Soros knows how to profit from unstable markets. Instability = volatility, and volatility is opportunity to a trader like him. How many people lose their jobs or starve to death because of his instigations of instability are of no concern to him. He wants his cash as fast as he can get it. This is what makes him evil. Perhaps he is not as bad as a I perceive, but in my view there are a lot of ruined lives in his wake.

  45. dL

    George Soros knows how to profit from unstable markets. Instability = volatility, and volatility is opportunity to a trader like him. How many people lose their jobs or starve to death because of his instigations of instability are of no concern to him. He wants his cash as fast as he can get it. This is what makes him evil. Perhaps he is not as bad as a I perceive, but in my view there are a lot of ruined lives in his wake.

    Governments are the source of it. He profits from it. The heyday of The Quantum Fund was the 1990s. The fund itself is no longer active. He put his money where his mouth was re: his financial theories and profited very handsomely from it. And unlike that bloodsucker Warren Buffet, he didn’t need a bailout in 2008.

  46. John Burd

    “it”? Soros now helps run his family funds. If Soros invested by theory alone I would not be against him, however the way Soros operates internationally is essentially the same as buying insurance on a neighbors home, then burning it down. Then if he can, he’ll buy the construction company which rebuilds it in a shoddy manner so he can insure it and have it burn down again. Maybe you are thinking of Soros’ old partner at Quantum, Jim Rogers. I believe he runs a clean ship. Soros, not so much.

  47. dL

    however the way Soros operates internationally is essentially the same as buying insurance on a neighbors home, then burning it down.

    Betting against central banks, shorting currency futures?…i don’t get the analogy. Actually, I don’t get the the thing being analogized. Insuring your neighbors house and then burning it down would be all risk and no reward. The neighbor gets the payoff, the idiot pays the bill and gets the crime. Soros is not an idiot. If you are u trying to say he was colluding w/ the regulators. Wrong guy. That guy would be Warren Buffet.

    I read Soros’ book, “The Alchemy of Finance” about when it first came out. His argument was that the system set up was not stable. A heterodoxical challenge at the time to the prevailing sentiment of rational expectations, random walk. At the time, I thought the book was a bit a quackery application of the observer role in quantum measurement applied to finance. But he made a shot load of money as a contrarian speculator.

  48. jb

    Does Soros fund organizations which promote stable government structures or destabilizing government structures?
    The holder of the policy gets the payoff. Watch the movie ” The big Short” it doesn’t get everything right but it gets everything close enough.

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