Independent socialist among few Senators to vote no on bailout

Following Monday’s historic defeat of the “billionaire bailout for Wall Street,” the Senate took up the fight to fleece the taxpayer to an even greater degree — adding “sweeteners” to the bill to soften congressional opposition.

Rejecting public opinion polls that show a vast majority oppose the principle of a bailout, the Senate passed the bigger and badder bill by a vote of 75-25. Among the few to say no to Wall Street was independent senator from Vermont, Bernie Sanders.

“The masters of the universe, those brilliant Wall Street insiders who have made more money than the average American can even dream of, have brought our financial system to the brink of collapse,” Sanders said, and are demanding that the middle class “pick up the pieces that they broke.”

Independent Joe Lieberman voted yes.

56 thoughts on “Independent socialist among few Senators to vote no on bailout

  1. Mike Theodore

    Would it be biased to call him a socialist in a news article? He’s never called himself one, and you do have a habit of calling everyone a socialist, GE.

  2. G.E. Post author

    You’re like the kid in my freshman history course who called our professor out for saying “Jew.”

    “Isn’t that a racial slur?”

  3. G.E. Post author

    The fact that I call people socialists has nothing to do with the fact that Sanders calls himself one.

    Have a clue what you’re talking about before you start typing.

  4. Mike Theodore

    I wasn’t familiar with him saying he’s a socialist. But your credentials don’t really back you up on this.
    Remember, your the guy that called my mom a socialist agitator.
    😀

  5. G.E. Post author

    Mike – Should we also not refer to Brian Moore and Gloria La Riva as socialists? They are no less explicitly socialist than Bernie Sanders. Just because you’re clueless doesn’t mean everyone else doesn’t know full well that Sanders is an outspoken and unashamed socialist.

    MY CREDENTIALS?

    This isn’t about credentials. It’s about FACTS. I’m not a scientist, but my lack of credentials have nothing to do with the FACT that the sky is blue. And Sanders is just as much of a socialist. How clueless are you? Did you know that Eugene Debs was a socialist, too? How about Karl Marx? Were you aware that he was a socialist?

  6. G.E. Post author

    No. What you said is: “He’s never called himself one.”

    NOT TRUE. Why do you allege bias when you can’t even get your facts straight.

    If you don’t know that Bernie Sanders refers to himself as a socialist, then you don’t know anything about Bernie Sanders. So why are you alleging bias and making false claims?

    Let’s see: Right here from Yahoo! Finance:

    http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/081001/financial_meltdown.html

    Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont, an independent who’s a self-described socialist, said the rescue was fundamentally unfair.

    From his Wikipedia article:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

    Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist,

    The Table of Contents of his own book (which I have read, have you?): http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/1859841775/ref=sib_dp_bod_toc?ie=UTF8&p=S003#reader-link

    Chapter 2: Socialism in One City (referring to his mayorality)

    From Democracy Now!: http://www.democracynow.org/2006/11/8/vermonts_bernie_sanders_becomes_first_socialist

    In Vermont, Bernie Sanders to become the country’s first self-described socialist to be elected to the U.S. Senate.

    So where have you been getting your information from RE: Bernie Sanders? Not from the MSM, alternative media, or directly from him. So instead of saying that a headline is “biased” and stating a lie “He’s never referred to himself as a socialist” how about you STFU and Google it first.

  7. G.E. Post author

    So now Theodore has hijacked a thread that should have been congratulating and celebrating Bernie Sanders — probably the least evil of 100 in the Senate — into a mess. Screw you, Mikey!

  8. G.E. Post author

    Bernie Sanders also calls his opponents “socialists” — the same cretins that I call socialists… Scumbags like Larry Cocaine Kudlow:

    People like Kudlow are the worst scum in the world.

  9. Jeremy Young

    GE, thanks for posting on this — I know you’ve criticized Sanders in the past for not being independent enough, but he does buck his party leadership on occasion.

    BTW, if you want to get technical about it, La Riva is pretty much a Marxist, not a Socialist…even though “Socialist” is in her party’s name (kind of like “National Socialist,” I guess…only not nearly as divergent from what she actually believes).

  10. Catholic Trotskyist

    Yes Bernie Sanders is a socialist. However, the only truly socialist party in America, the Catholic Trotskyist Party, has changed its position on the bailout; OUR IMPERIAL LORD REVOLUTIONARY GENERAL BARACK H. OBAMA has persuasively called for its passage, followed submissively by lame trogledyte John S. McCain III. We now fully support the passage of the bailout, as it is highly misunderstood by the ignorant masses and will not benefit Wall Street more than Main Street, amen.

  11. Spence

    No, right, I picked up on that. I’m used to it now. For all Sanders’ faults, he’s still one of the most honest senators.

    It’s kinda like admitting you’re a pedophilic sycophant that has a schizophrenic desire to kill people. You can’t come cleaner than that.

  12. darolew

    “…Bernie Sanders — probably the least evil of 100 in the Senate…”

    The socialist is the least evil? How incredibly sad.

  13. Steve LaBianca

    I wholeheartedly agree that Sanders is one of, if not THE most honest senators . . . but “probably the least evil” . . . when an evil ideology is held by an honest person, that does NOT make the ideology, nor the person any less evil, IMHO.

  14. Ross Levin

    From Wikipedia:

    During his re-election bid in 2006, he lost the Democratic Party primary election, but won re-election in the general election as a third party candidate under the party label “Connecticut for Lieberman.” Lieberman is now officially listed in Senate records for the 110th Congress as an “Independent Democrat”,[2] and sits as part of the Democratic Senate caucus in the 110th Congress.

  15. G.E. Post author

    LaBianca – Sanders’s humane socialism is less evil, at least theoretically, than the fascism of the other 99 senators.

  16. pdsa

    There are five Republican Senators that voted no on the bail-out, who should Not be in any way complimented. They are five of the nine reprehensible Senators who voted against the McCain Anti-Torture Amendment to the FY 2006 Department Of Defense Appropriations Act on October 5, 2005, and for that reason alone, should be run out of D.C. on a rail, tarred and feathered. The five are:

    Wayne Allard (R-CO)
    Thad Cochran (R-MS)
    James Inhofe (R-OK)
    Pat Roberts (R-KS)
    Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

    They care naught of Liberty and Justice.
    They are ruled only by Greed.
    No Mercy.
    No Quarter.

  17. Mike Theodore

    Allard I know is leaving, pdsa.

    Both Illinois Senators voted yes on it.

    Plus, Durbin is definitely being reelected, and Obama could be in the White House…

  18. G.E. Post author

    Everyone who voted against the bill, for whatever reason, deserves a pat on the back. How they voted elsewhere is not relevant.

    All politicians, except for Ron Paul, vote for bad stuff all the time. If we apply any consistent standard like you’re asking, then Paul is the only one who would ever be worthy of praise for anything.

  19. pdsa

    G.E. – you speak with Austrian Schooled rationalisations. There is no excuse whatsoever for a pro-torture vote. Do you stand for liberty and with humanity, or do you hide away inside of your pocket-book?

  20. Hugh Jass

    pdsa,

    Just because someone disagrees with you on other important issues doesn’t mean you can’t extend your praise to hem when they agree with you on one important issue. That’s why coalition-building is so important.

  21. Mike Theodore

    Note that Kucinich and Paul don’t hate each other.

    We’ve got to start despising people for political opinions. I at least despise those that spew evil over the discourse of politics.

  22. G.E. Post author

    Paul and Kucinich don’t hate each other because they’re both anti-Establishment. Mike, the anarchists want coalition. It’s the other guys who don’t.

    But there’s no sense in coalition building with the evil Establishment. You can pat a guy on the back for voting the right way, which I’m all for, but these Establishment imperialist types are not like Dennis Kucinich or even Bernie Sanders, Barbara Lee, etc.

  23. Trent Hill

    GE,

    To be fair–I saw the President of FreedomWorks and a Reason contributor today declare himself an Austrian and prasie Mises and Hayek. Seems like an olive branch to me.

  24. G.E. Post author

    The bill passed today with little fanfare.

    There will never be another need for a bailout bill, since, as per the terms of this bailout, the Treasury can buy ANY financial asset WITHOUT approval from Congress from this point forward.

    The U.S. dollar will not last five years.

  25. Trent Hill

    I am impressed with Walter Jones, Jimmy Duncan, Dana Rohrabacher, and (my Democratic congressman) Cazayoux. They all voted no both times.

    And, of course, Ron Paul.

  26. Trent Hill

    I am, however, thoroughly dissapointed in John Shadegg and ESPECIALLY in Zach Wamp, a member of the Liberty Caucus, for voting Yes on the bailout.

  27. G.E. Post author

    Ross – If you didn’t do such a good job writing for this blog, I’d let you have it right now. How you manage to write coherent sentences is a mystery to me, when your brain is so obviously poisoned by the lies and false religion you’re forced fed — to your unknowing enjoyment — each and every day. That’s why statements of facts, like the one you’ve quoted above, earn your ridicule. They’ve convinced you that up is down, that freedom is slavery, and we’ve always been at war with Eurasia.

  28. Ross Levin

    I didn’t mean anything bad by it, GE, I was just being a bit ironic.

    Either way, I still don’t know how you know what I get taught at school.

  29. Jeremy Young

    Called Baron Hill again today to thank him, yet again, for voting against the bill.

    I’m shocked about Shadegg. This may doom his re-election bid, since Lord is against the bill.

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