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Libertarian Party daily poll: Which Libertarian idea most helps your family?

Libertarian Party daily poll: Which Libertarian idea most helps your family?

Creating jobs by opening markets and lowering taxes on employers

Local control of schools and more choices for parents

Income tax relief for payers, and simplifying the tax code

Reducing taxes on your children by eliminating wasteful and unconstitutional spending

Lowering health care costs through proven market-based reforms

Posted to IPR by Paulie

27 Comments

  1. paulie cannoli Post author | February 17, 2009

    I’ll go if LG goes with me

  2. libertariangirl February 17, 2009

    Second that

  3. Gene Trosper February 17, 2009

    I see some discussion regarding “alternative sexualities” and some mentioning of the leather community. You know, there are many leather events held around the United States each year and I think it would be fantastic for Libertarians to do some outreach at those events if allowed by event organizers.

  4. paulie cannoli Post author | February 17, 2009

    My favorite kind of tax simplification, to be sure.

  5. Trent Hill February 17, 2009

    “I don’t want to “simplify” the tax code, I want to delete it”

    I think deleting it falls under the idea of “simplifying it”. It’d be VERY simple to comply with the tax code if it simply said “pay nothing, ever.”

  6. Ayn R. Key February 17, 2009

    I don’t want to “simplify” the tax code, I want to delete it. WTF is going on with those conservative Republicans at LPHQ?!

    Plus everything George said about civil liberties.

  7. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    Very true. Peace, civil liberties and economic sanity are all inextricably connected, which is why you have to look at all three sets of issues – not just one or two of them.

  8. Michael H. Wilson February 9, 2009

    End the Empire! Bring the troops home and then reduce the taxes, etc.

    I think it is worth pointing out the the inflation we have been experiencing since 1950 has happened at the same time we have spent huge amounts of money on foreign intervention and maintaining a large force overseas. Prior to this time period we had virtually no inflation to speak of except during war time.

    End the Drug War.

    Repeal the Patriot Act.

  9. John C Jackson February 9, 2009

    All of those LP proposals are completely ball-less to say the least. It reads like a list of very safe generic Republican policies.

    George gets it right.

  10. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    http://delawarelibertarian.blogspot.com/2009/02/truly-terrible-terrible-stupid-way-to.html

    It looks like Delaware’s own version of a sort-of Hitler Youth style “education” program will be sprouting up right here in the Wilmington, if certain right-wing types have their way.

    The “Delaware Academy for Public Safety and Security (DAPSS)” is gradually moving closer to becoming a reality as a charter school here in little old Delaware.

    This has to be one of the most chilling and disturbing ideas I have seen yet in the new age of “homeland security”….namely because it is targeted at inculcating ‘troubled’ youth into a statist “security” mindset.

    If I had my druthers, words like “homeland” (e.g. “fatherland”, “mother Russia”) would be banned from any governmental lexicon in our REPUBLIC.

    (The very idea of a massive central government agency supposedly to “secure” the so-called homeland, in truth a massive domestic security apparatus to control the citizenry, has been one of the worst and certainly most wasteful developments in our nation’s history.)

    Now we have misguided would-be do-gooders looking to process and warp young minds to perpetuate this truly un-American mindset.

    It is obvious that some people’s minds are really stuck in retarded mode, still in the same frenzy of fear, militarism, and exploitation that followed the events of September 11, 2001.

    What we see with this “Homeland Security High School” is a sickening attempt to turn troubled youth into loyal little troopers, cops, prison guards, spies, or whatever use for which they can be programmed to serve a central security state.

    I say nuts to this. Every child should receive a well-rounded education offering them a chance to pursue any career path their desire and talent open to them. To cubbyhole 13-year old children into a life path as some sort of tool for government security agencies is just reprehensible.

    It is a nauseating disgrace to the very idea of education as more than merely the training of tasks or the molding of minds to pre-set notions of how the world should be.

    “Building Homeland Security One Student at a Time”

    Behind all this is a former 2-term state legislator named Tom Little.

    Little appears to have dropped his erstwhile ridiculous crusade to force ethanol on Delaware (probably the absolute worst form of “alternative” energy possible).

    [In the linked article Little openly admits to having married, at age 62, a 17-year old girl when he lived in Africa for over a decade, through the 1990’s. How this raises no red flags for anyone who would insinuate themselves into the education of teens is beyond me.]

    “We’re developing a new culture for young children called the culture of honor. We serve a cause, not a paycheck.”, says Little.

    First, what the hell does this mean? A “culture of honor”?? For teenagers?!?

    I am sure Reichsfuhrer Himmler had similar words when he and Adolf Hitler corralled impressionable youth and stamped on them a ‘culture’ of unquestioned loyalty to authority.

    “Meine Ehre Heibt Treue” [Loyalty is My Honor]
    Motto of the Waffen SS

    Some of the mentioned career tracks for the little homeland troopers :

    • Professional law enforcement and other armed and unarmed security – including SWAT team skills
    • Correctional officers
    • Water safety experts
    • Air safety – including helicopter repelling
    • Medical first responder aid and emergency crews
    • 911 Operator skills
    • Operating engineers and professional defensive driving skills
    • Forensic and investigative skills

    [NOTE : the correct term in bullet 4 should be “rappelling” not “repelling”. The incorrect spelling is how it appears on the Homeland High website. Having served in an air-assault-capable active duty Army Infantry battalion, I can attest that helicopter “rappelling” is quite a different thing from “repelling” a helicopter.]

    Troubled teenagers trained to be prison guards, SWAT, and other assorted armed (and of course “unarmed”) so-called “first responders” (notice the Orwellian terminology to soften the reality of this abomination).

    Why put such tasks of responsibility and authority into the hands of higher-educated adult professionals, with real life experience, when you can brainwash high school kids into a “culture of honor”??

    Little goes on to say : “When they graduate they’ll have a job. They’ll be in better shape than Marines and speak conversational Spanish, Arabic and Chinese.”

    [I am sure we can all be thrilled to know our firemen, cops, SWAT teams, and 911 operators can speak Mandarin or Farsi.]

    It appears even the pretense of higher education is pretty much out the window. They want to put these poor kids right to work in the bowels of an ever-burgeoning security state, on the idea of saving them from their troubled circumstances.

    No need to think for themselves, just OBEY.

    Sickening.

  11. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    LGBTQPLBDSMLLKY?

    I’ll have to think of something OHMYGODTHISACRONYMISLONG stands for.

  12. Leathery February 9, 2009

    “LGBTQPL”
    Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Queer, Polyamorous, Libertine, Bondage, Discipline, Submissive, Masterful, Leather, Latex, Kinky.

  13. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    Thank you for your above comment, George. I am a libertarian for many reasons, not all economic.

    In the spirit of recycling, I’ll recycle an old comment on this

    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/01/thomas-sipos-on-angela-keaton-and-ron-paul/comment-page-4/#comment-38572

    In fact, it was one of the key issues that made me switch to the LP, when the Democrats did not try to bring the troops home from around the world after the cold war ended.

    Some others: the Democrats continued lack of progress on ending the drug war after the baby boomers got to the top leadership posts.

    Learning about the work of Julian Simon and other dissenting voices on free market approaches to environmental problems.

    Support for the Second Amendment and individual and community self-defense as a better alternative to relying on the police, and as a bulwark against tyranny – I came around on that one and matched my theory to my practice several years earlier (late 80s, whereas I held out on the economic issues until ’92-’94).

    Taxes and spending: I always hated bureaucracy personally, but for a long time I though social programs were necessary. A combination of reading through and debating Libertarianism in One Lesson and books “for further reading” in the index in ’92-4, plus personal experience in the bite income tax withholding has on the low paid wage worker, and I came to see that there were better voluntary alternatives on issues such as poverty and education to coercive government solutions, just as I was learning that there are on environmental issues.

    Really, it was just a case of systematizing the same arguments I was already making as a drug peace activist: just because something is bad does not mean it should be illegal, and just because something is good does not mean it should be mandatory.

  14. VirtualGalt February 9, 2009

    Thank you for your above comment, George. I am a libertarian for many reasons, not all economic.

  15. George Phillies February 9, 2009

    I believe the above did explain the acronym to Geoffrey. Someone else might give an English English translation in case the American English was not clear.

    Geoffrey, one of the disadvantages of posting on blogs in foreign countries is that they speak a foreign language. In our case, English.

    I use the acronym that meets with local approval in Massachusetts. I want the votes.

    George

  16. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    2nd L is leather,

    Judas Priest – Hell Bent for Leather

  17. Trent Hill February 9, 2009

    Geoffrey,

    I think “LGBTQPL” stands for “lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, questioning/queer, pansexual/polyamorous”—but i’v no idea what the last L stands for. Frankly, I think its a REALLY stupid acronym–and they should go with something shorter like “alternative sexualities”.

  18. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    Geoffrey, DOMA=Defense of Marriage Act

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_of_Marriage_Act

    LGBTQPL = Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Queer, Polyamorous,* Leather.

    *I think the P is for Polyamorous. Not 100% sure on that one.

    Also, if this is referring to certain groups of Yanks, what group do you and your children fall into?

    I didn’t see where Dr. Phillies said he or his children (if he has any – I’m not aware of any) fell into any of those groups.

    For that matter, I don’t either, and I never raised any kids, although they are out there unless I’m infertile (I was a very, very irresponsible teenager, with rock star motive and opportunity, except in my case the “rock” was not rock-n-roll music, but dealing the crack rock).

    But, I can also make the statement “which includes children and relatives of a fair number of us,” regardless of whether this refers to any of my own relatives or not. At least that is the way it works in American English. How about in jolly old England?

    If I recall his prior statements on this correctly, Dr. Phillies has said he is straight, but not narrow (minded).

    As for the whole issue of language, see comments subsequent to yours at

    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/libertarian-party-blog-now-a-fourth-obama-cabinet-nominee-faces-tax-questions/

    Glad to see the LP UK website back up.

    And by the way….top o’ the morning to ya!

  19. paulie cannoli Post author | February 9, 2009

    Out of the limited choices given, I picked “Reducing taxes on your children by eliminating wasteful and unconstitutional spending” but so far the top answer is “Income tax relief for payers, and simplifying the tax code”.

    I’m all for tax relief, but spending is what drives taxation.

  20. Geoffrey February 9, 2009

    Dear Professor:

    I apologize first off for my use of your American language, I choose to speak the Queens English which is very different apparently from the way you Yanks speak.

    I digress. Now to my question:

    What does: “Repealing DOMA and protecting millions of LGBTQPL Americans, which includes children and relatives of a fair number of us” mean?

    In particular, my grand daughter could not explain “LGBTQPL” other than to say it sounds like “peanut butter and jelly sandwiches” to which I replied, but dear, it can not be because the Yanks have pulled all the peanut butter off their shelves.

    Also, if this is referring to certain groups of Yanks, what group do you and your children fall into?

    Top of the evening,

    Geoffrey

  21. George Phillies February 9, 2009

    Ending the war on drugs and restoring civil rights to millions of convicted Americans, thus allowing them to work for a living.

    Repealing DOMA and protecting millions of LGBTQPL Americans, which includes children and relatives of a fair number of us.

    Ending wiretapping of your phones, so that your private matters and business calls are not sold to the highest bidder by corrupt NSA employees.

    Barring torture and prosecuting the torturers. all of them, before your children are tortured by your local drug police.

    The Libertarian Party — it flies less well on two right wings.

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