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LSLA/LNC discussion room

By reader request, so it does not clash with the video.

159 Comments

  1. Rocky March 4, 2009

    @#158 – Steven, we plan to write a report for sure – along with some suggestions that will maybe make these live casts even better in the future. Thanks to Mike Seebeck for this report from San Diego which helped us to get set up.

  2. Steven R Linnabary March 4, 2009

    As I have said before, this weekends production was VERY good. Very professional.

    I hope somebody writes a “how-to” paper on this, along with costs involved so that others can do the same.

    PEACE

  3. paulie cannoli Post author | March 4, 2009

    Camera is steady, not shaky as SD

    They had them on tripods. I think SD was just a webcam attached to a laptop with nothing to hold it steady.

  4. Trent Hill March 4, 2009

    Paulie, it must be on your end, I can log in fine–and I just checked your editing ability and its still valid.

  5. paulie March 4, 2009

    I’d like to post it here, but IPR is not letting me log in.

  6. Rocky March 3, 2009

    George, the LNC meeting video will be posted to the “Video on Demand” folder at http://www.mogulus.com/augustalibertarian. Later this evening or tomorrow.

    It is incomplete because of internet connection with the hotel’s wireless network, but there are 6 or so hours of video available out of the total of about 8.

  7. George Phillies March 3, 2009

    Does anyone have plans to archive the LNC meeting tapes in an accessible location?

  8. Gene Trosper March 2, 2009

    I am trying to do something for liberty:

    http://www.californiarevolution.com

    I created the site and am working on building up not just the site, but a libertarian-oriented voice against the California state budget that will be active on the streets. It’s the largest effort I have undertaken, but will be well worth it for the liberty of Californians.

  9. Rocky March 1, 2009

    @#147 – I agree, Gene.

  10. Michael H. Wilson March 1, 2009

    I wonder what some of the deadwood types on the LNC are going to do when we in the party pass them by.

  11. Gene Trosper March 1, 2009

    Not a knock on him, far from it. It’s just sad that he had to make the presentation that he did because we clearly are NOT doing the basics, by and large.

  12. Gene Trosper March 1, 2009

    @143

    I agree the LP needs to be more activist. The shame is that Jingo was covering the BASICS of what we should already be doing.

  13. Rocky March 1, 2009

    @#80 – 17:00 Lidia Seebeck : There is a LP twitter page?
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : what is it”?
    17:00 Gene Trosper : good question

    The twitter page Rachel referenced is LPGa: http://twitter.com/LPGeorgia

  14. Rocky March 1, 2009

    @#68 – 16:44 Gene Trosper : Not loving Jingo’s presentation thus far. emails, blogs and talk radio?
    16:44 Lidia Seebeck : I have to agree
    16:45 dawgbreath : yeah, most activists already do all those things
    16:45 Gene Trosper : These are recycled ideas. I’m waiting for something more substantial.
    16:45 Lidia Seebeck : me too
    16:45 Lidia Seebeck : his rookie status is showing
    16:45 dawgbreath : that’s my thought
    16:45 dawgbreath : he means well
    16:46 Lidia Seebeck : he DOES and that IS important
    16:46 Gene Trosper : But wwe all know the saying about good intentions…
    16:46 Lidia Seebeck : sigh

    In Jingozian’s defense, you have to remember that he was not speaking to “activists”, and I think that his presentation to the LNC was about what the LP should be doing – not just the activists. The gist of it from my POV was that the LP needs to become more activist!

  15. Rocky March 1, 2009

    Now that I’m home and finished with the live cast, I can go back and read Paulie’s running commentary and find out what happened at LNC. Thanks Paulie for that.

  16. Richard Cooper March 1, 2009

    16 Paulie Audrey Capozzi’s report on the Sundwall campaign for special congressional election in New York on 3/31/09.

    We have 3100 signatures out of 3500 needed. We have raised over $7000.

    We will be in the League of Women Voters/WROW Talk Radio debate in Albany.

    Richard Cooper, Campaign Manager
    http://www.sundwall4congress.org

  17. paulie March 1, 2009

    Logging on briefly, I am not online much right now.

    Exec comm was last thing except for acouple of minor resolutions which were not worth setting back up for, plus the camera guys left.

    Rachel’s resolution was to allow the high-resolution LP logos to be made available to people to make their own open source lit.

    However, LNC members were concerned about people misrepresenting LP views under the LP name/logo.

    Which of course is still possible, since there is no way they can know who all makes their own LP lit or sue all of them; the only difference being that they use low-res logos instead of high res.

    This and much else covered in comments above.

    We are hoping for recorded video in the next few days.

    As I said I will be mostly offline, so just call me. Phone is not charged now. But it should be in my missed calls and I’ll try to charge it before to long.

  18. Michael H. Wilson March 1, 2009

    I had real work to do this a.m. Am I to understand that Rachel made some sort of resolution to work on improving the literature package only to have it voted down?

    If so can someone fill in on the details?

    MW

  19. libertariangirl March 1, 2009

    are we still on exec. meeting cuz there is no video?

  20. volvoice March 1, 2009

    good job guys!

  21. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    1:15 Gene Trosper : *round of applause*
    11:17 Steve Linnabary : Paulie, will you be broadcasting any of the LSLA?
    11:17 Paulie : No, it was up against this
    11:18 Paulie : We need to beak this down now
    11:18 Paulie : Break and then exec session
    11:18 Gene Trosper : Then that’s the end of the meeting, I assume?
    11:18 Steve Linnabary : see ya
    11:19 Gene Trosper : Well, I have some other things to accomplish today. Still working on californiaRevolution.com
    11:19 Gene Trosper : Bye. Time to get back to the real world
    11:19 Paulie : My understand is this is the end of open session. either way we would not have time to set back up. Thanks folks and see you all later

  22. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    11:14 Steve Linnabary : it worked well for the states, they could get speakers for free
    11:15 Gene Trosper : *round of applause*
    11:17 Steve Linnabary : Paulie, will you be broadcasting any of the LSLA?
    11:17 Paulie : No, it was up against this
    11:18 Paulie : We need to beak this down now
    11:18 Paulie : Break and then exec session

  23. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    11:13 Gene Trosper : I think it makes good sense to combine, especially on a financial basis.
    11:14 Steve Linnabary : it worked well for the states, they could get speakers for free
    11:15 Gene Trosper : *round of applause*

  24. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    1:08 Steve Linnabary : no audio
    11:09 Paulie : They are now discussing having Dec 12-13
    11:10 Steve Linnabary : now have audio, video is still froze
    11:11 Steve Linnabary : thats better
    11:11 Gene Trosper : I prefer the combining of meetings.
    11:12 Steve Linnabary : LNC used to combine w/ a state convention

  25. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    0:57 Mike Seebeck : Here you go, Gene.
    10:59 Mike Seebeck : July 18, St. Louis
    10:59 Paulie : I think StL is not firmed up
    11:00 Paulie : They were arguing about it and I did not hear a vote
    11:00 Mike Seebeck : true
    11:00 Gene Trosper : My bday is Nov. 16, so that would make an interesting bday trip
    11:03 Gene Trosper : They should do what is financially prudent.

  26. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    0:50 Mike Seebeck : Yeah, but there’s a bill out here to make initiative circulators register as lobbyists. AB6. It’s just stupid and absurd.
    10:52 Paulie : No on OH , More like TX, NM on Greyhound bus if I go to Arizona, or Alabama straight to Florida
    10:53 Steve Linnabary : I wuz gonna’ offer crash space & a beer
    10:53 Paulie : Thanks Steve…I’ll try to do that when I’m up that way

  27. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:42 Paulie : There is an agenda posted at IPR and lined in the discussion thread. It has been changed around a lot though.
    10:42 dawgbreath changed their nickname to Steve Linnabary.
    10:43 Mike Seebeck : I might have missed it then.
    10:44 Paulie : https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/schedule-for-libertarian-state-leadership-alliance-and-libertarian-national-committee-meetings-in-charleston-s
    10:44 Paulie : URL is too long to post apparently
    10:44 Paulie : It is linked in the discussion thread near the top
    10:45 Gene Trosper : Paulie: is your road trip going to bring you out to California?
    10:45 Paulie : Probably Arizona
    10:45 Paulie : But Florida is still possible – less likely
    10:46 Paulie : Even less likely, if I could get Alabama started
    10:46 Gene Trosper : I assume Phoenix?
    10:46 Paulie : Phoenix or Tucson to start, maybe Flagstaff later
    10:47 Gene Trosper : There may be some job opportunities in california if the anti-tan rebellion really gets going out here. Lots of talk about recall petitions and so forth
    10:47 Gene Trosper : tan=tax
    10:47 Paulie : Alabama..I would need enough money to do at least one co.
    10:48 Paulie : I’m more or less putting Alabama on back burn because I did not have the fundraising letter ready for ths meeting, as I had hoped
    10:49 Gene Trosper : Well, at least I know the next LNC meeting is July.
    10:49 Steve Linnabary : will you be passing thru OH?

  28. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:38 Mike Seebeck : Having it done by EOY 09 for approval for the one meeting prior to convention will saddle the new LNC with these changes without seeing if they are workable.
    10:38 Gene Trosper : I asked this earlier, but didn’t receive and answer, so I inquire again: when and where is the next LNC meeting?
    10:39 Mike Seebeck : TBD, Gene. They should mention it.
    10:39 Gene Trosper : Okay, thanks. I thought I may have missed it.
    10:40 Paulie : I don’t know, has it already been decided?
    10:40 Mike Seebeck : They usually announce it later. Paulie, I thought there was an agenda posted at IPR earlier?
    10:40 Gene Trosper : That’s why I was asking.

  29. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:36 Mike Seebeck : Not everyone on Bylaws is a “parliamentary geek”. Some are there by cronyism.
    10:37 Mike Seebeck : And note that Karlan, Carling, and Starr will create a railroad job over Moulton and Bennett.

  30. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:30 dawgbreath : wonder if somebody there can get a leaked copy?
    10:31 Mike Seebeck : They just said it’s not confidential. Copy request already sent.

  31. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:17 dawgbreath : audio is good
    10:18 Gene Trosper : Video is now up
    10:18 Robert McGee : and we’re back
    10:28 Mike Seebeck : This oughta be good.
    10:28 Gene Trosper : ROTFMAO @ Seebeck
    10:29 Gene Trosper : ROTFLAMO, actually
    10:29 Mike Seebeck : Woopee. Advance copy.

  32. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:09 Gene Trosper : The next meeting is when and where?
    10:10 Gene Trosper : SABBATH!
    10:11 Gene Trosper : Government Mule does and excellent cover of War Pigs
    10:11 Gene Trosper : an
    10:12 Robert McGee : working on the fee
    10:12 Robert McGee : d
    10:12 Gene Trosper : That’s okay. problems will happen
    10:16 dawgbreath : no picture
    10:17 Robert McGee : working on it
    10:17 dawgbreath : audio is good
    10:18 Gene Trosper : Video is now up
    10:18 Robert McGee : and we’re back

  33. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    10:02 Gene Trosper : Then hire Scott Bieser.
    10:02 Mike Seebeck : The simple thing is that as far as national goes, they would need to tailor it to whatever state and region a new member is in, and THAT requires the…
    10:03 Mike Seebeck : …the vertical coordination of information that just is not being done.

  34. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    0:00 Mike Seebeck : Jingo’s “Liberty Pack” could easily be a part of that packet.
    10:01 Gene Trosper : The Liberty Pack is the first suggestion he has proposed that I really like.
    10:01 Mike Seebeck : We had those in LPEP and they were very effective, especially when they were used at outreach booths.

  35. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:55 Gene Trosper : Which is why we need a volunteer network .
    09:57 Gene Trosper : But what did Aaron do to retain Bonnie Flickinger?
    09:58 Mike Seebeck : What’s the paper flipping in the background?
    09:59 Mike Seebeck : I think what they need to do is almost online only, but retain the ability to print out for new membership welcome packets and outreach materials. Jingo’s…
    10:00 Mike Seebeck : Jingo’s “Liberty Pack” could easily be a part of that packet.

  36. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:49 Paulie : LP News. now quarterly. Possibly online again in a few months – maybe.
    09:50 dawgbreath : Gene, why don’t YOU ressurrect “Volunteer”, make it part of your campaign for LNC
    09:50 Gene Trosper : Good on Mark Hinkle. Excellent suggestion: value for the dollar
    09:51 Gene Trosper : I can’t resurrect ‘Volunteer” as it was an official LP publication. But definitely, I have loads of volunteer suggestions and tips.
    09:52 Paulie : You can esurrect something similar but not as an official pub.
    09:52 Paulie : Hogarth wants to resurrect something like Rothbard’s Libertarian Vanguard
    09:53 Paulie : They can be done online first perhaps?
    09:53 Gene Trosper : I know. It could already be something I have already been thinking of ; )
    09:53 Gene Trosper : Online exclusively. dead tree publications are on their way out.
    09:54 Gene Trosper : Thing is: I’m not doing everything on my own ever again. I did so in the past and it burned me out really, really bad.

  37. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:43 Mike Seebeck : Morning
    09:43 Gene Trosper : Morning
    09:43 Paulie : Interesting, I proposed this as a youtube chanel yesterday
    09:43 dawgbreath : ’bout time you woke up
    09:44 Mike Seebeck : whatever. I was up late. Still have jet lag from Wednesday!
    09:45 Gene Trosper : The LP needs to have PDF flyers available for download (both color and B&W) on current issues of the day.
    09:45 Gene Trosper : Such as the “bailout”
    09:45 Paulie : That was part of the discussion yesterday
    09:45 Paulie : We want it to be open surce
    09:45 Gene Trosper : Agreed: open source.
    09:46 Paulie : LNC members are worried people will misrepresent the party
    09:46 dawgbreath : just starr
    09:46 Paulie : They want to keep control
    09:46 Paulie : They all voted agaist it except Rachel
    09:46 Gene Trosper : Starr is a control freak, sorry to say.
    09:47 dawgbreath : and wrong on the issues
    09:47 Paulie : Realistically – are they really going to sue people for making LP fliers?
    09:47 Mike Seebeck : No kidding. He messed up CA pretty bad and we’re still cleaning up his mess almost 2 years after he left.
    09:47 Mike Seebeck : No, they won’t sue. No cash. No lawyer. No case, either.
    09:48 Paulie : If they don’t allow the professional logos to be used, that just means people use lower grade logos
    09:48 Gene Trosper : I would like to see the “Libertarian Volunteer” publication resurrected.
    09:48 Mike Seebeck : Or older ones. Frankly, the gold one is UGLY anyway!
    09:48 Paulie : LV – yeah, I was thinking that too
    09:49 Gene Trosper : Or at least being made a part of LP News
    09:49 Paulie : LP News. now quarterly. Possibly online again in a few months – maybe.

  38. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    9:41 Gene Trosper : Thank you, Dr. Lark. Thank you for speaking the truth
    09:42 dawgbreath : I was thinking the same thing
    09:42 Gene Trosper : But emotional arguments are what win over voters
    09:43 Mike Seebeck : Morning
    09:43 Gene Trosper : Morning
    09:43 Paulie : Interesting, I proposed this as a youtube chanel yesterday
    09:43 dawgbreath : ’bout time you woke up

  39. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:38 Gene Trosper : No value in petty bickering. I’ve been involved in the LP since 1990. I’ve seen too much of it.
    09:41 Gene Trosper : Thank you, Dr. Lark. Thank you for speaking the truth

  40. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:36 Gene Trosper : Anything interesting thus far?
    09:36 dawgbreath : discussing why we are losing members
    09:37 Gene Trosper : It’s because the LP has been spinning it’s wheels. If members don’t see value for their dues, they will go elsewhere
    09:38 dawgbreath : you don’t see value in petty bickering?
    09:38 Gene Trosper : It’s almost as if she was reading my post! LOL

  41. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    9:28 theman : haha we had a freakin great year at cpac
    09:29 dawgbreath : were there any lib speakers?
    09:31 Paulie : Someone told me Ron Paul came in 2nd for p-2012?
    09:31 dawgbreath : 3rd
    09:32 theman : some lib speakers
    09:32 theman : Paul got 3rd
    09:32 theman : People were much friendlier to us this year than last year
    09:32 dawgbreath : stormin’ mormon @ 20, Jindal @ 14, Paul @ 13, Palin @ 13
    09:32 theman : haha
    09:32 theman : yeah
    09:33 theman : is there anywhere I can get a typed play by play of this somewhere?
    09:33 theman : as much as I love the admiral
    09:33 Paulie : https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/lslalnc-discussion-room/ mostly backup of this chat
    09:34 Robert McGee : That link is also in the scrolling ticker
    09:34 Paulie : Plus a few things, not a lot because the internet connection here is slow
    09:34 Robert McGee : at the bottom of the creen
    09:34 Paulie : We should have recorded video at IPR hopefully in next few days
    09:35 Paulie : Regarding staff issues…that is all exec session
    09:35 Gene Trosper : Good morning
    09:35 Robert McGee : morning
    09:36 Robert McGee : welcome
    09:36 Gene Trosper : Anything interesting thus far?
    09:36 dawgbreath : discussing why we are losing members

  42. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:25 theman : exactly
    09:27 theman : dudes my interns flipped off joe the plumber
    09:27 Paulie : awesome
    09:27 Paulie : Tell him say no to crack
    09:28 dawgbreath : lol
    09:28 theman : haha we had a freakin great year at cpac

  43. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    09:23 theman : I was like
    09:23 theman : ummm
    09:23 dawgbreath : squeeze harder 🙂
    09:23 theman : I’m not your guy for that one
    09:23 theman : haha
    09:23 theman : But get this
    09:23 theman : there was this republican elected official
    09:23 theman : i think frm indiana
    09:23 theman : he was like
    09:23 theman : Im a libertarian
    09:23 theman : I really like you guys
    09:24 theman : etc. etc.
    09:24 theman : we chatted all weekend
    09:24 theman : at the end of the conference
    09:24 theman : he presented me with a liberty dollar
    09:24 theman : he said that if they ever release the silver (the feds) then it will be redeemable
    09:24 theman : lol
    09:24 dawgbreath : now its worth as much as a FRN
    09:25 theman : exactly

  44. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    08:52 dawgbreath : feedback
    08:52 dawgbreath : thx
    08:54 Rocky changed their nickname to Paulie.
    09:07 Robert McGee : how is sound?
    09:12 dawgbreath : good
    09:15 theman : wtf happened
    09:15 theman : is anyone here?
    09:15 Robert McGee : yes
    09:15 Robert McGee : is there a problem with the feed?
    09:15 dawgbreath : discussing why we are losing members
    09:16 theman : I brought in a ton of new ones at CPAC this weekend
    09:16 dawgbreath : great
    09:17 theman : Hayek and competitive currencies were like red meat to the conservatives at CPAC
    09:18 theman : i avoided the gay thing and drugs and focused on keynes vs hayek
    09:18 dawgbreath : sound has been intermittant past couple minutes
    09:18 dawgbreath : you were at CPAC
    09:18 theman : Yeah I ran the LP booth
    09:18 dawgbreath : kewl
    09:18 theman : it was *** libertarian baddassery this year
    09:19 theman : here’s all I want to know about this meeting…. does the volunteer coordinator still have a job?
    09:19 dawgbreath : R’s always sound libertarian when out of power
    09:20 theman : I know, but get this
    09:20 theman : Even the Horowitz douche’s approached us and were like
    09:20 theman : we know we cant spread democracy in iraq it’s a waste of time
    09:20 theman : you dont understand islamofascism blah blah blah
    09:21 theman : but man it was such a delight to go to those fancy receptions and introduce myself as from the
    09:21 theman : Libertarian Party
    09:21 theman : some of these mega rich conservatives thought they’d just faint
    09:22 theman : their sensibilities were so tender
    09:22 dawgbreath : did you ask for $ from those rich folks??
    09:22 theman : yes
    09:22 theman : I think i might be able to squeeze 10-15
    09:23 theman : K
    09:23 theman : 10-15K i meant
    09:23 theman : if Im lucky
    09:23 theman : most of the people wanted favors for it

  45. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    08:51 dawgbreath : wow…I still haven’t reset the clock on the stove since daylight savings change, saw it said 9:30 & went to the PC
    08:51 dawgbreath : I’m early, but meeting is early!!
    08:52 dawgbreath : feedback
    08:52 dawgbreath : thx

  46. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    Executive session was supposed to be first but was switched around. The camera crew had to tear down this equipt and then set it back up this morning so we did not capture the start of the meeting

  47. paulie cannoli Post author | March 1, 2009

    17:47 Gene Trosper : Mike, you mention Keaton above. just about the time you posted that, I got an email from Angela announcing the formation of Outright Libertarians in Los Angeles
    17:48 Gene Trosper : And she was asking for help at the LA pride booth this June. I’ll likely volunteer.
    17:51 Mike Seebeck : we got that too
    17:58 Gene Trosper : The song that inspired one of the greatest libertarian books!
    20:58 paulie : We will reconvene live casting around 9:30AM; the LNC wants 1 hour in executive session when they reconvene at 8:30
    20:59 paulie changed their nickname to Rocky.
    21:40 Mike Seebeck : OK
    22:53 deth : anybody still here?
    00:03 Robert McGee : going to sleep now, be back on in the morning. Live feed starts at 9:30am EST
    08:48 Robert McGee : GOOD MORNING, WE ARE LIVE!!!!
    08:48 Rocky : live now
    08:48 Rocky : this is paul

  48. Stewart Flood March 1, 2009

    A quick response to the question of pdf copies of LP news. The APRC currently receives a pdf copy of LP news in order to facilitate the review process.

    There was a discussion of producing LP News in the same format for the membership. Several of us on the committee believe that while we can’t eliminate the printed version (and certainly don’t want to!), we should start focusing more on interactive media for communication with the members and contributors to the party.

    This discussion has been ongoing for the past few meetings. I believe that we’ll have a resolution to the issues related to web publication sometime in the near future.

  49. Stewart Flood March 1, 2009

    Wifi seems to be working again this evening. Maybe they plugged the access point back into the network.

  50. George Phillies February 28, 2009

    I see our LNC chair voiced false claims relating to the Connecticut ballot access drive that the LNC failed to accomplish.

    I was the standin in CT, so petitioning could start early. when we reached the right time, the LPCT sent me a letter to complete and return, handing the names over, and I immediately did so.

    Redpath’s claim that I drove up their costs by being a standin in Connecticut are false.

    If you want to look at things that drove up LNC petitioning costs, look at the contract they signs in MA: way too many signatures with absolutely no notice to the state party that they were doing it. We collected a considerable number of signatures at great expense to our treasury, and my pocketbook, and that was money down the drain because we simply duplicated the LNC nominating paper effort, even though they had been told we were collecting signatures.

  51. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Sorry guys, that last post aand this one weret actually from Rocky. I though that I had logged Paulie off on my laptop, but I guess not. I won’t be posting anymore until I can get that straightened out.

  52. Michael H. Wilson February 28, 2009

    Anything and everything to get the word out is much appreciated. A big ataboy to everyone who is involved.

    MW

  53. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Sorry for the abrupt exit this afternoon, guys and gals. We were given rather the bum’s rush to get shut down so the LNC could go into ex-session. They will resume at 8:30 in the am, but will convene in ex-session and remain so for at least 1 hour. So we will start live casting ~9:30 or so.

    Sorry for any inconveniences with the braidcast today. We’re still working out the bugs.

    Even with the bugs and glitches, I think we all owe Robert McGee a big “attaboy” for his efforts. He was the main guy; I was just along for the ride.

  54. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:48 Gene Trosper : And she was asking for help at the LA pride booth this June. I’ll likely volunteer.

  55. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    lawsuit, and litigation falls under ES
    17:47 Gene Trosper : Mike, you mention Keaton above. just about the time you posted that, I got an email from Angela announcing the formation of Outright Libertarians in Los Angeles

  56. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:37 dawgbreath : in secret, IOW
    17:39 Mike Seebeck : Because part of OK is a ballot access lawsuit, and litigation falls under ES

  57. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:36 dawgbreath : why would ballot access need to be in exec session?
    17:37 dawgbreath : in secret, IOW

  58. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:34 paulie : He is the party parliamentarian
    17:34 Mike Seebeck : right, as appointed by billy bob, but the table is for voting members only. Keaton pointed that out in SD.

  59. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:34 paulie : He is the party parliamentarian

  60. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:28 Gene Trosper : And what is the review turn around time?
    17:28 Gene Trosper : Where is the flexibility?

  61. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    7:26 Gene Trosper : No!
    17:26 Gene Trosper : And again: NO!
    17:27 dawgbreath : lol

  62. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    digital. behind the times
    17:26 Gene Trosper : NO!
    17:26 dawgbreath : more like western union
    17:26 Gene Trosper : No!

  63. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:25 dawgbreath : ok, I knew it had to be somebody with backbone. I’d never met him
    17:25 Gene Trosper : The LNC is akin to “analog” in an age of digital. behind the times

  64. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    7:22 Mike Seebeck : OK, I’m back. What’s the scoop here?
    17:22 Gene Trosper : make the logos downloadable, but one must fill out a licence for use of the logos.
    17:23 Mike Seebeck : OK
    17:24 dawgbreath : who is this guy?
    17:24 Gene Trosper : R. lee Wrights
    17:24 paulie : Lee Wrights

  65. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    LNC run.
    17:22 Lidia Seebeck changed their nickname to Mike Seebeck.
    17:22 Mike Seebeck : OK, I’m back. What’s the scoop here?
    17:22 Gene Trosper : make the logos downloadable, but one must fill out a licence for use of the logos.

  66. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:20 Gene Trosper : Which is why I am seriously debating an LNC run.

  67. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:19 Gene Trosper : The LNC is hampering the activists and affiliates.
    17:20 dawgbreath : business as usual

  68. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:15 Gene Trosper : I heartily disagree with Aaron on the LP logo issue. make the logos freely available, but with the caveat that they be used for specific purposes only.

  69. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:11 Gene Trosper : creative commons. That’s the wave of the future.
    17:11 paulie : exactly

  70. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:09 Gene Trosper : The LP really needs to go open source on as many things as possible for flexibility and lower cost
    17:09 paulie : Agree

  71. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:07 Gene Trosper : LNC meetings give me a case of ED

  72. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:05 Lidia Seebeck : I need to get off, real life beckons. Please monitor as best as you can Gene and thanks
    17:06 paulie : You mean LNC meetings are not getting you off?
    17:06 paulie : Shocker
    17:06 Gene Trosper : LOL

  73. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    17:03 Lidia Seebeck : although to be fair Rachel is very much the same way in her region
    17:03 Lidia Seebeck : just not as well known

  74. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    to do real life outreach and going to the polls.
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : There is a LP twitter page?
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : what is it”?
    17:00 Gene Trosper : good question
    17:01 Lidia Seebeck : It needs to be spread. I will say something to Rachel
    17:01 Gene Trosper : it’s it…what is it?
    17:01 Gene Trosper : Umm….what does someone need? Probably a track record of accomplishments
    17:02 Gene Trosper : Angela, LOL
    17:02 Lidia Seebeck : yeah no kidding they killed off the best activist

  75. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    that (Libety Cafe Show, Break the Matrix, et al)
    16:59 dawgbreath : Probably more people watching this than ever watch public access
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : lol
    17:00 Gene Trosper : But the internet is just a tool to drive people to do real life outreach and going to the polls.
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : There is a LP twitter page?
    17:00 Lidia Seebeck : what is it”?
    17:00 Gene Trosper : good question

  76. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:58 Gene Trosper : Instead of public access, we should aim for internet broadcasting.
    16:58 Lidia Seebeck : probably yes
    16:58 Lidia Seebeck : I tend to agree, the RP movement does that (Libety Cafe Show, Break the Matrix, et al)

  77. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:57 Lidia Seebeck : I know there was something done/ is doing(?) in austin TX as well
    16:57 Gene Trosper : Honestly, public access doesn’t exactly draw much of an audience, but for information on creating and running a show, mark is the expert.
    16:58 Gene Trosper : Instead of public access, we should aim for internet broadcasting.
    16:58 Lidia Seebeck : probably yes

  78. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:57 Lidia Seebeck : I know there was something done/ is doing(?) in austin TX as well

  79. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:55 Lidia Seebeck : yep
    16:55 dawgbreath : sound suddenly got better
    16:55 Lidia Seebeck : those sirens are annyong
    16:56 Gene Trosper : Not sure about mark, but he is THE person anyone interested in public access should refer to.
    16:56 dawgbreath : but does ANYBODY watch it?
    16:56 Lidia Seebeck : I know but I thought he was not doing that anymore. I really respect MaRK BTW

  80. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:55 Lidia Seebeck : I have to agree. Is Selzer back in the saddle after his health concerns?
    16:55 Gene Trosper : This is a political party, not an entertainment venue
    16:55 Lidia Seebeck : yep

  81. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:54 Lidia Seebeck : kk paulie
    16:54 Gene Trosper : Libertarian public access TV begins and ends with Mark Selzer
    16:54 Gene Trosper : NOOOOOOOO

  82. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    good job thus far on the news release front.
    16:53 dawgbreath : Bill looks bored
    16:53 Lidia Seebeck : lol
    16:53 Gene Trosper : I would be bored as well.
    16:53 Gene Trosper : MARK SELZER
    16:54 Lidia Seebeck : huh? what about him?
    16:54 paulie : I think one more hour
    16:54 Lidia Seebeck : kk paulie
    16:54 Gene Trosper : Libertarian public access TV begins and ends with Mark Selzer

  83. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    membership)
    16:52 Lidia Seebeck : how much longer is this scheduled for today?
    16:52 Gene Trosper : Donny Ferguson seems to be doing a good job thus far on the news release front.
    16:53 dawgbreath : Bill looks bored
    16:53 Lidia Seebeck : lol
    16:53 Gene Trosper : I would be bored as well.

  84. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:48 Lidia Seebeck : I wonder if he realizes that a chunk of that room is pro-war (even as he is on the side of most of the membership)

  85. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:47 Gene Trosper : No, what we need is to ACCOMPLISH, so people will feel motivated to do something and join.
    16:47 Lidia Seebeck : YES

  86. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:40 Lidia Seebeck : of course I am biased
    16:44 Gene Trosper : Not loving Jingo’s presentation thus far. emails, blogs and talk radio?
    16:44 Lidia Seebeck : I have to agree
    16:45 dawgbreath : yeah, most activists already do all those things
    16:45 Gene Trosper : These are recycled ideas. I’m waiting for something more substantial.
    16:45 Lidia Seebeck : me too
    16:45 Lidia Seebeck : his rookie status is showing
    16:45 dawgbreath : that’s my thought
    16:45 dawgbreath : he means well
    16:46 Lidia Seebeck : he DOES and that IS important
    16:46 Gene Trosper : But wwe all know the saying about good intentions…
    16:46 Lidia Seebeck : sigh

  87. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:32 dawgbreath : that was my assumption, still funny
    16:34 Lidia Seebeck : jingo speaking, interesting guy
    16:36 Gene Trosper : The LP really does need to become aggressive in terms of outreach and activism. They should also consider implementing a quality system.
    16:38 Gene Trosper : Each member of the LNC and staff should read this: http://www.endsoftheearth.com/Deming14Pts.htm
    16:40 Lidia Seebeck : Or use real lobbying instead of philosophy wrangling to increase our political presence in halls of power
    16:40 Lidia Seebeck : of course I am biased

  88. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:32 Lidia Seebeck : it may be proximity to the mic, hubby had that in SD
    16:32 dawgbreath : that was my assumption, still funny

  89. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:26 Lidia Seebeck : Gene do you know any decent statisticians
    16:27 Gene Trosper : Obama, the “stimulus” and california’s tax increases offer the LP a golden opportunity. However, the LP needs to offer members and potential members value.
    16:28 Lidia Seebeck : very true
    16:28 Gene Trosper : Statisticians? At work, I do.
    16:28 Lidia Seebeck : btw did you get my CA revolion update about the Jon and Ken show?
    16:29 Gene Trosper : On facebook?
    16:29 Lidia Seebeck : They are doing a tax revolt rally next Sat in Fullterton
    16:29 Gene Trosper : We need to go then.
    16:29 Lidia Seebeck : yes on fb
    16:29 Lidia Seebeck : yes we do
    16:29 Gene Trosper : I hardly check facebook.
    16:30 Lidia Seebeck : ssrry
    16:30 Lidia Seebeck : fullerton is not far from here, eastern oc county
    16:30 Gene Trosper : I need to do so more often, I suppose…MySpace, Twitter, Facebook, LiveJournal…I am overwhelmed.
    16:30 Lidia Seebeck : I really should twitter and email event stuff
    16:31 dawgbreath : funny, whispering comes through loud and clear!!
    16:32 Lidia Seebeck : yeah I noticed

  90. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:27 Gene Trosper : Obama, the “stimulus” and california’s tax increases offer the LP a golden opportunity. However, the LP needs to offer members and potential members value.

  91. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:26 Lidia Seebeck : Gene do you know any decent statisticians

  92. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:22 Gene Trosper : I wish so as well. pewrhaps mary would make available her presentation to us if we ask?
    16:23 Lidia Seebeck : I can contact her. Unfortunately
    16:23 Lidia Seebeck : II never took Statistic
    16:23 Lidia Seebeck : So I can’t do anything more to the data

  93. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    16:20 Lidia Seebeck : I hope Mary took Statistics in her coursework years ago– this begs more analysiis

  94. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    New members are on target, but renewals are 50% of expected

  95. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Membership loss is much faster than projected

  96. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Stewart Flood reminded me that he got LNC confidentiality issue pushed back to next meeting

  97. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:50 Lidia Seebeck : opt out but make direct mail available as needed– flexibility!!
    15:59 Gene Trosper : Liberty is freedom of choice, so definitely, offer flexibility.
    16:00 Lidia Seebeck : yep
    16:07 Robert McGee : break
    16:13 Robert McGee : sorry guys, gotta wait for the video guy to come back
    16:13 Robert McGee : back

  98. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    back in session
    Ruwart on membership

  99. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Somebody said something about a pdf — but I think that may be for LNC members only

  100. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Is LP news on the internet again?

  101. Gene Trosper February 28, 2009

    With the internet, who really needs a hard copy LP News?

  102. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    LP News is now quarterly due to budget issues

  103. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:50 Lidia Seebeck : opt out but make direct mail available as needed– flexibility!!

  104. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:48 Lidia Seebeck : Allow people to opt out of direct mail and it makes Liberty easier for them

  105. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:43 Lidia Seebeck : I feel like the 15k to WA was the best item budget
    15:47 Lidia Seebeck : Rachel makes an excellent point, particularly in municipalities with trash limits and mandatory recycling. Some ppl have severe trouble with junk mail and trash

  106. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:42 Lidia Seebeck : I think the biggest thing that would increase donorship would be to have the LNC DO stuff instead of just squandering it.

  107. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:39 Lidia Seebeck : I really hope we can keep this up not only for LNC but also for state EC and conventions

  108. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:37 Lidia Seebeck : BTW mega kudos to Rocky for the fantastic quality and presentation
    15:38 dawgbreath : VERY professional

  109. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:31 Lidia Seebeck : i’m confused aqbout the Facebook discussion
    15:32 dawgbreath : feedback

  110. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:28 Mike Seebeck : OK, Lidia is taking over for me.
    15:28 Mike Seebeck changed their nickname to Lidia Seebeck.

  111. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    LNC facebook discussion boards being disabled is now, being discussed.

  112. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:27 Mike Seebeck : lol!
    15:27 Mike Seebeck : why is national discussing supporting local electeds when that’s a state problem?

  113. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:25 Robert McGee : LOL
    15:26 paulie : Sound/video OK?
    15:26 dawgbreath : yup
    15:26 Mike Seebeck : fine, except for the screeching. Oh, wait, that’s Starr talking.
    15:26 paulie : Simmer down people! lol

  114. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:21 Robert McGee : we’re back now
    15:25 paulie : Test
    15:25 Robert McGee : Test
    15:25 paulie : multiple choice
    15:25 Robert McGee : LOL
    15:26 paulie : Sound/video OK?

  115. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:12 Gene Trosper : Masters of War by Bob Dylan is a good one too.
    15:15 Gene Trosper : And “War” by Edwin Starr (philosophically no relation to Aaron Starr)
    15:19 Mike Seebeck : Sig heil starr fuerher?
    15:21 Mike Seebeck : OK, now what’s discussed by whom?
    15:21 Robert McGee : Sorry fellas, technical dificulties earlier
    15:21 Robert McGee : we’re back now

  116. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Tech issues. Should be back on now.

  117. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Staff reports

    Kraus is introduccing Ferguson

  118. Michael Seebeck February 28, 2009

    Hawkridge asked Starr about printing out the financials on 11×17 to make it easier to read, and Kraus said staff might have some objections to doing it. Why they would object to it is beyond logic or sense.

  119. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    5:07 Mike Seebeck : Indeed. I wrote up what I did on mine from SD, and add to it.
    15:08 Gene Trosper : A fave song of mine.
    15:09 Gene Trosper : CSN&Y are cultural heros of mine
    15:09 Mike Seebeck : I think we need Pink Floyd Dogs of War also and Def Leppard Gods of War.

  120. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    15:05 Gene Trosper : For the record: I am extremely impressed with the Augusta Libertarian feed. Very well done!
    15:06 Mike Seebeck : Absolutely. These folks have taken it to another level. I’ve been outclassed here and I’m very happy about it! 🙂
    15:06 Robert McGee : Thank you very much. This is first time broadcating live so we’re working out the kinks
    15:06 Mike Seebeck : Still, kinks and all, it’s great.
    15:07 Gene Trosper : Robert: if you could write up a guide as to how you did this, it would be information we could all use.
    15:07 Robert McGee : uh, I’ll probably do a video
    15:07 Mike Seebeck : Indeed. I wrote up what I did on mine from SD, and add to it.

  121. Steven R Linnabary February 28, 2009

    This is great!! You folks are doing a fantastic job w/ this webcast

    Camera is steady, not shaky as SD

    Sound is good, most of the time

    PEACE

  122. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    @ 14 paulie wrote: “14:44 Mike Seebeck : Hobbit Kraus objects to 11×17 printing? Moron.’

    What are we referrring to here? Anyone?
    Tks,
    MW

    Somebody said something about printing needs to be larger on handout materials.

    I did not follow it closely..

  123. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Sounded like it to me.
    15:01 augustalibertarian : It was about turning that around to lower signature requirements
    15:01 Robert McGee : We’re not tesponsible for the ads from mogulus
    15:01 Robert McGee : responsible*
    15:02 Gene Trosper : yes, but he said something about ‘desperate” petitioners, unless my ears were decieving me.
    15:02 dawgbreath : he was repeating what a state rep had told him
    15:03 Gene Trosper : I understand that, Robert. I just found it ironic that there would be an ad encouraging the looting of taxpayers during a Libertarian function.
    15:04 Gene Trosper : Thanks for the clarification, dawgbreath!
    15:04 augustalibertarian changed their nickname to paulie.
    15:04 paulie : http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/dude-wheres-my-bailout/

  124. Michael H. Wilson February 28, 2009

    @ 14 paulie wrote: “14:44 Mike Seebeck : Hobbit Kraus objects to 11×17 printing? Moron.’

    What are we referrring to here? Anyone?
    Tks,
    MW

  125. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    4:59 Gene Trosper : Was that a slam against paid petitioners? Sounded like it to me.
    15:01 augustalibertarian : It was about turning that around to lower signature requirements

  126. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:58 Gene Trosper : How ironic: the ad which appeared over the video stream is advertising the “stimulus” checks and how to get “your share”. Disgusting.

  127. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:53 Gene Trosper : is there anything interfereing with the mic? Getting low-level feedback
    14:54 Mike Seebeck : check to make sure the speakers are muted on the broadcast computer. I had that problem when I was testing my set before SD.
    14:54 Robert McGee : Robert is working on second mic
    14:54 Robert McGee : Robert is back here now.
    14:55 Robert McGee : how is the sound?
    14:55 Gene Trosper : sounds fine now.

  128. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    RuthBennett: Bill Hall is leaving as LNC counsel. He is a good guy and will be missed.

  129. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:52 Gene Trosper : feedback
    14:53 Gene Trosper : is there anything interfereing with the mic? Getting low-level feedback
    14:54 Mike Seebeck : check to make sure the speakers are muted on the broadcast computer. I had that problem when I was testing my set before SD.
    14:54 Robert McGee : Robert is working on second mic

  130. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:49 Gene Trosper : it always drops when they switch to the second camera
    14:50 augustalibertarian : Bill Hall as general counsel
    14:50 Mike Seebeck : Well, that’s interesting. Did he say why?
    14:50 Gene Trosper : That’s no surprise.
    14:51 augustalibertarian : He gave warning last meeting
    14:52 augustalibertarian : It’s eating up too much of his time and people second guessing him
    14:52 Gene Trosper : feedback

  131. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Lark – campus report
    Students for Liberty

  132. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:49 Mike Seebeck : whos’ resigning from what?
    14:49 Mike Seebeck : Audio dropped
    14:49 Gene Trosper : it always drops when they switch to the second camera
    14:50 augustalibertarian : Bill Hall as general counsel

  133. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    RuthBennett Treasurer Starr wants to give much less detail on financial reports to the LNC saying that financial info should not be on the website.
    5 minutes ago from web

  134. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Bill Hall is resigning as general counsel

  135. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:46 Gene Trosper : Was that Gordon? Is he blogging any?
    14:46 Mike Seebeck : dunno
    14:46 augustalibertarian : I think Gordon is chairing state chairs now
    14:47 augustalibertarian : Rocky confirms

  136. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    4:42 augustalibertarian : kthx
    14:43 Mike Seebeck : she doesn’t have much on there.
    14:44 Mike Seebeck : Hobbit Kraus objects to 11×17 printing? Moron.

  137. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    RuthBennett IRV was used to decide – I watched over Sec’t shoulder and Alicia ended up winning 9-7 over Emily Salvette.
    31 minutes ago from web Rob Power, Emily Salvette, Alicia Matson and Susan Hogarth have been nominated for At-Large. Maybe they will do this in open session. Good!
    about 1 hour ago from web This is not a topic for Exec Session – it does not deal with personel, hiring/firing, salaries or legal matters.
    about 1 hour ago from web

  138. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:40 augustalibertarian : Do you know URL for Ruth’s Tweet?
    14:40 Mike Seebeck : lemme check.
    14:40 Mike Seebeck : http://twitter.com/RuthBennett
    14:42 augustalibertarian : kthx

  139. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:35 Gene Trosper : Mike: check IPR for updates, since paulie is liveblogging.
    14:35 Mike Seebeck : Yeah, just did. Who
    14:35 Mike Seebeck : Yeah, just did. Who’s tweeting?
    14:36 augustalibertarian : Susan was trying, last time I checked it was not working
    14:36 augustalibertarian : Connection here sucks
    14:37 Mike Seebeck : I think Ruth is tweeting some of it.
    14:37 augustalibertarian : Back to the 90s speed
    14:37 Mike Seebeck : augausta, you wireless or wired to a LAN?
    14:38 augustalibertarian : *** if I know. This is Paul on Rocky’s puter
    14:39 augustalibertarian : I think it’s through a sprint card, the hotel cut off the high speed
    14:39 Mike Seebeck : Well, is there a LAN cable attached from teh computer to the wall?
    14:39 Mike Seebeck : hotel did that? sounds stupid on their part
    14:39 augustalibertarian : they want $100 a person
    14:39 augustalibertarian : No LAN cable
    14:39 Mike Seebeck : Jesus H, that’s extortion.
    14:40 augustalibertarian : Do you know URL for Ruth’s Tweet?
    14:40 Mike Seebeck : lemme check.

  140. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    14:34 augustalibertarian : treas report
    14:35 augustalibertarian : see IPR for what happened so far, or scrol up
    14:35 Gene Trosper : Mike: check IPR for updates, since paulie is liveblogging.
    14:35 Mike Seebeck : Yeah, just did. Who
    14:35 Mike Seebeck : Yeah, just did. Who’s tweeting?
    14:36 augustalibertarian : Susan was trying, last time I checked it was not working
    14:36 augustalibertarian : Connection here sucks
    14:37 Mike Seebeck : I think Ruth is tweeting some of it.
    14:37 augustalibertarian : Back to the 90s speed

  141. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    discussion-room/
    14:31 Gene Trosper : for some reason, whenever the second camera is used, the sound drops off
    14:32 Mike Seebeck : Hi all. Sorry I got here late. I have been outdone here, and I’m damn glad! This looks excellent!
    14:33 Gene Trosper : mogulus rocks
    14:33 Mike Seebeck : So where are we?
    14:34 Gene Trosper : I’ve lost track a bit…have been running back and forth from the computer room to the kitchen. I’m cokking red beans & rice, along with collards greens.
    14:34 Gene Trosper : cooking
    14:34 augustalibertarian : treas report
    14:35 augustalibertarian : see IPR for what happened so far, or scrol up

  142. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    3:54 augustalibertarian : I’m copying it to IPR but I suggest using that instead of the IM chat here so it’s backed up automatically
    14:00 Mattpowell : Less background buzz now.
    14:01 augustalibertarian : https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/live-broadcast-from-libertarian-state-leadership-alliance-in-charleston-sc/comment-page-1/#comment-43711
    14:01 augustalibertarian : Oops strike last part of url
    14:02 hippie steve : perfect sound now
    14:25 augustalibertarian : paul logging beack in
    14:26 Robert McGee : cool
    14:26 augustalibertarian : new url https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/lslalnc-discussion-room/
    14:31 Gene Trosper : for some reason, whenever the second camera is used, the sound drops off
    14:32 Mike Seebeck : Hi all. Sorry I got here late. I have been outdone here, and I’m damn glad! This looks excellent!
    14:33 Gene Trosper : mogulus rocks
    14:33 Mike Seebeck : So where are we?

  143. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Sorry for the extra stuff in comment one, due to the slowness of the computer it was easier to ctrl + A /ctrl + C

  144. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Treas. report

    December revenues in the toilet
    Jan. broke even

  145. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Ed Coleman, the Indianapolis councilman who switched from R to L is here and gave a short speech.

  146. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

    Nolan not here.

    Scott Lieberman asked me to let the record show that the reform caucus did not do the dog whoop.

  147. Gene Trosper February 28, 2009

    Thank you to Paulie for creating this thread.

    Is David Nolan in attendance? I am interested in his reaction regarding Mattson’s win.

  148. paulie cannoli Post author | February 28, 2009

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    ? California?s Green mayors on the job Val Kilmer eyes a gubernatorial bid, but is off to a bad start ?
    Live Broadcast from Libertarian State Leadership Alliance in Charleston, SC beginning at 1pm on Saturday
    February 26th, 2009 ? 46 Comments

    Via Augusta Libertarians.

    UPDATE: The channel is playing recorded videos now, and will broadcast the conference live starting Saturday at 1 PM. Thanks to Rocky Eades for the update.

    Filed Under: Libertarian Party

    46 responses so far ?
    1 Rocky // Feb 26, 2009 at 7:24 pm

    Clarification: We will just be live casting the LNC meeting beginning at 1pm on Saturday.
    2 Ross Levin // Feb 26, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    What exactly is this conference?
    3 Paulie // Feb 26, 2009 at 7:33 pm

    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/schedule-for-libertarian-state-leadership-alliance-and-libertarian-national-committee-meetings-in-charleston-sc-feb-27-mar-1/comment-page-1/#comment-43467https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/schedule-for-libertarian-state-leadership-alliance-and-libertarian-national-committee-meetings-in-charleston-sc-feb-27-mar-1/
    4 paulie cannoli // Feb 26, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    Clarification: We will just be live casting the LNC meeting beginning at 1pm on Saturday.

    Thx. fixed..
    5 Stewart Flood // Feb 26, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    Weather looking good here. Should be 70 or better outside tomorrow.

    With the economy crashing, we?ve even got a reasonably good chance that we?ll be able to witness spontaneous rebellion as the citizens overthrow the tyrants in Columbia and Washington and form a new country.

    Of course we could also have an earthquake?

    Stewart
    6 Rocky // Feb 26, 2009 at 9:39 pm

    Stewart, hey, it?s happened before! In a major way – http://earthquake.usgs.gov/regional/states/events/1886_09_01.php
    7 Stewart Flood // Feb 27, 2009 at 12:19 am

    Did you think that I was joking?

    They estimate that we?re about 20 years overdue for an 8.8.

    Don?t worry, the hotel is very sturdy. They built it about 30 years after the 1886 earthquake.
    8 Rocky // Feb 27, 2009 at 1:41 am

    8.8???!!! Jesus! Have you ever heard of Seneca?s Guns, Stewart? We used to have them off the coast of North Carolina when I lived at the coast there.
    9 Stewart Flood // Feb 27, 2009 at 5:43 am

    Never heard of Seneca?s Guns.

    But they say that we should get at least a few warning tremors before the big one, so since it hasn?t rumbled here in months?hey?what?s?tha???..
    10 Stewart Flood // Feb 27, 2009 at 7:25 am

    Well I survived the long trip downtown ? must be at least three or four miles ? and I?m sitting in the hotel lobby waiting for everyone else to wake up and get this show on the road!!!

    The publicly available wifi seems to work just fine. Checked my e-mail with no problems. Just had to click accept on the usual ?terms and conditions? page and everything started working. Guess I should have read the terms, but since they don?t charge for access it probably doesn?t matter what it says?
    11 Stewart Flood // Feb 28, 2009 at 11:20 am

    The wireless network in the hotel worked flawlessly yesterday, but access is virtually non-existent today. No one at the LSLA is able to connect in the lobby or the meeting room area anymore and access in the guest rooms seems to now require a ?booster? (usb based device that then connects to your ethernet port to deliver service).

    I fought with the brainless robots at the customer service number I was given, and they eventually decided I needed to use this ?booster.?

    It runs in the room ? barely. I?ll see if it connects downstairs. I?m going to leave my laptop running/connected and carry it down there. Hopefully it will hold the connection.
    12 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:20 pm

    We should be on now, is it working?
    13 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Currently public comments in LNC meeting
    14 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:21 pm

    Technical issues with video?should hopefully work soon
    15 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Audrey Capozzi: sundwall4congress.org
    Eric could not be here due to the campaign
    16 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Alicia Mattson: take region report for KY offline
    17 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:24 pm

    Rachel Hawkridge clarifies it is in the binder
    18 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:25 pm

    Stewart Flood apologizes for the weather
    19 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:30 pm

    Conflicts of interest report

    Hawkridge – written report

    Jingozian – board member of Free and Equal

    Karlan: conflict of interest reports need to be in writing
    20 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    Recorded video should be availabl, hopefully before end of weekend
    21 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:33 pm

    p-break
    22 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:35 pm

    Motion to remove mission statement from agenda passes without objection
    23 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:36 pm

    Internet and I are both sluggish right now, anyone reading here yet?
    24 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:37 pm

    motion to move membership recruitmengt and retention to earlier in the meeting
    25 HIPPIE STEVE // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    yup

    sound came on a minute ago
    26 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:42 pm

    Cool, let me know if it comes in/out
    27 HIPPIE STEVE // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    slightly better picture @

    http://www.mogulus.com/augustalibertarian

    plus instant msg
    28 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    Also if anyone can type what?s going on from the video – please do
    29 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:47 pm

    http://www.mogulus.com/augustalibertarian

    is what is embedded here
    30 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Motion on floor to postpone LNC confidentiality vote to next meeting
    31 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    elcome to the ?augustalibertarian? room
    00:24 augustalibertarian : got to get up at 6am and help out the lsla; i?m outta here
    00:24 augustalibertarian : night guys
    00:25 dawgbreath : thx for doing this
    13:27 hippie steve : no sound, just background buzzing
    13:37 Robert McGee : we are working it out now
    13:37 hippie steve : got sound!!!!
    13:38 Robert McGee : sound good?
    13:39 Robert McGee : is the sounds still good?
    13:40 hippie steve : yup
    13:43 Robert McGee : thank you
    13:46 Mattpowell : Is this the state or national convention? I forget?
    13:47 Mattpowell : Lost the feed?
    13:47 hippie steve : libertarian national committee
    13:47 Mattpowell : Allright, got it back.
    13:47 hippie steve : background buzz
    13:49 Robert McGee : working on it: i think it?s the air conditioner
    13:49 augustalibertarian : test
    13:50 augustalibertarian : this is paul using the Aug Libs puter
    13:51 Mattpowell : Is this someone from Augusta providing the live feed at the LNC meeting?
    13:51 Robert McGee : Yes
    13:51 Mattpowell : So this person is acually in attendance at the meting?
    13:51 Gene Trosper : Thanks to augustalibertarian for arranging this broadcast
    13:52 augustalibertarian : Robert, does this chat back up a transcript?
    13:52 augustalibertarian : MATT: several of us are here at the meeting
    13:52 hippie steve : lost feed
    13:52 Robert McGee : don?t think so
    32 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    3:52 Mattpowell : Oh, ok.
    13:54 augustalibertarian : I?m copying it to IPR but I suggest using that instead of the IM chat here so it?s backed up automatically
    33 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:55 pm

    Election of at large rep
    30 min
    34 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    Dixon nominates Emily Salvette

    seconded

    Others nominated – Mattson, Rob Power, Hogarth. Nominations closed.
    35 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:57 pm

    Susan if you are on here, is your twitter feed public – if so what is the URL?
    36 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:58 pm

    Alicia Mattson – short speech
    Power is not here

    Hogarth – ideological balance on the board
    educating candidates and members
    37 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 2:59 pm

    Salvette – has been on LNC before
    Interested in well functioning party that supports affiliates
    38 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:00 pm

    Ranked choice instant runoff by secret ballot
    39 libertariangirl // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    great job guys looking good!!
    40 Gene Trosper // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    Paulie, can this liveblog be a separate thread instead?
    41 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:01 pm

    14:00 Mattpowell : Less background buzz now.
    14:01 augustalibertarian : https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2009/02/live-broadcast-from-libertarian-state-leadership-alliance-in-charleston-sc/comment-page-1/#comment-43711
    14:01 augustalibertarian : Oops strike last part of url
    42 paulie // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    Paulie, can this liveblog be a separate thread instead?

    Coming up by request
    43 Gene Trosper // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:04 pm

    Thanks. I?m watching this on Mogulus and the sound from the embedded video on this page causes audio havoc because the two feeds clash. Plus, the liveblog deserves it own thread anyway.

    Again, thanks, Paulie!
    44 paulie cannoli // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:11 pm

    Still working on it, logging in caused the broswer to crashj and had to restart
    45 paulie cannoli // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:13 pm

    In the meantime; Hogarth and Power got 1 vote each. Mattson won over Salvette.
    46 paulie cannoli // Feb 28, 2009 at 3:16 pm

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