Florida: Third Party Tea Party

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In early November, I noted that Florida tea party activists had officially “declared their independence” from the farce that is Democratic-Republican politics, by registering their group as an official minor party. The group’s website is now up and running. Its front page features a declaration of independence from the Democratic and Republican parties. Via Freedom’s Wings:

When in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for citizens to dissolve the political bands which have heretofore connected them with the two, major, existing political parties and to assume among the powers of the earth, a new political party, with the separate and equal station which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitles it, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, political parties are instituted among Men, deriving their powers from the consent of their members, That whenever any political party becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of those members to separate themselves from it, and to institute a new party, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that affiliations with existing political parties long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by separating from such political parties to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations by both major, political parties, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce the American public under the absolute Despotism of the Federal government in Washington, D.C., it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off their allegiances to such parties, and to form a new political party.

Such has been the patient sufferance of the American people; and such is now the necessity which constrains the undersigned citizens of the United States of America to alter their allegiances to their former political parties. The history of the present Republican and Democratic Parties is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny by the Federal government over the American people. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

30 thoughts on “Florida: Third Party Tea Party

  1. Jazmon

    LISTEN UP!!!

    This website appears as a watering hole for those thirsty for true freedom and direction for the voice of the people to be heard and acknowledged resulting in real change.

    Lack of true organization and leadership leaves these people thirsty, lost and scattered, which is perhaps the intent of those in power. The true rulers DO NOT want us, the people to join together and replace them with forces that represent the people instead of corporation interests who own them.

    They prefer for us to be distracted, having a party, drinking chamomile tea and staying calm while they continue business as usual with our money and bodies to run their war machines and fill their private prisons. They mock on us and do not take us serious.

    THIS IS A SERIOUS AND CRUCIAL POINT IN TIME!!!

    This may be our last and only chance to spur a change, yet talking and drinking tea will not bring about change. We must to have representation INSIDE Washington D.C. We will get nowhere by only circling the sidelines; where they want us to stay, out of their way.

    Jorge Antonio Lovenguth (George), a USMC-H Vietnam Veteran, is willing to represent the Tea Party in the U.S. Senate without corporation backing. He is not accepting corporate donations; only donations from the people he will represent to meet the qualification fee to be on the ballot. Small donations from people, not corporations, will add up to make it happen.

    The most important donation to his campaign is to PASS THE WORD and get out the vote in Florida, Nov 2, 2010 for U.S. Senate. His approach is to come in helicopter style with VOTES on Election Day that the establishment will not expect and be surprised to see the Tea Party have someone to represent the People, instead of corporations, within Washington D.C.

    People please, put down your tea cup and Pass the Word to vote for Jorge Antonio Lovenguth (George), to be inside, in a seat in the U.S. Senate!

    He will be the only senator in history who will not owe any corporation interests and will be free to represent the interests of the people. He will focus on helping veterans, the elderly, and education; all areas currently highly neglected. His fight for the Florida St. Johns River and to stop offshore drilling is legend.

    He has a degree in literature and will actually read and write. All words will come from him and not speech writers. Isn’t that what you want in a senator?

    If you are a true American and really want direction and change within the current system that rules us all, go to http://www.TeaParty.pro and PASS THE WORD to everybody you know.

    Contribute to making history and real change in Washington D.C.! Only you can make it happen.

    Register to vote. Jazmon

    Jazmon@TeaParty.pro

  2. Brian Holtz

    Their declaration of political independence is top-notch, except for this part:

    Lastly, both parties have allowed the laws and Constitution of this nation to be so subverted and twisted that giving honor and glory to Nature’s God, our Creator, either in our schools or in our public discourse, is now forbidden by a court system instituted to protect the same unalienable Rights He endowed.

    1. It’s flatly false to claim that the courts forbid giving honor and glory to god(s) in our public discourse.

    2. We no more need god(s) in government schools than we need god(s) in government supermarkets or daycare centers or hospitals. Instead, what we need is to get government out of the business of owning schools — a business that cannot avoid deciding which gods to allow.

  3. Catholic Trotskyist

    The positions that Jasmine mentioned, like helping the elderly and education and stopping offshore drilling, actually sound more progressive compared to most Tea Party people, and go directly against libertarianism and conservatism.
    Also interesting that he is a Hispanic with a degree in literature, running as the Senate candidate for a party of white anti-intellectuals. He really belongs with us Catholic Trotskyists.

  4. Austin Cassidy

    Hey guys, FYI — I’ve been hearing that there’s more to this story. Seems that the organizer was a Democratic lawyer. Lovenguth ran for State Senate last year as a Democrat.

    They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.

    And most of the tea party organizers are expressing concern that someone has hijacked the name of the “movement” as a party and is going to try and use it to damage the Republicans.

    Worth looking into.

  5. Catholic Trotskyist

    Good info Austin. So apparently I was right about my suspicions. He may really be a Catholic Trotskyist after all.

    But he’s making the hijacking too obvious. Is it possible that he wants to be found out this early? Could this actually be a hijacking of the attempt to hijack the Tea Party movement?

    Either way, we can bet that fascist/stalinist satanic criminal Ralph Nader will be helping the side that is against the Democratic Party and God’s movement, Catholic Trotskyism.

  6. d.eris

    “And most of the tea party organizers are expressing concern that someone has hijacked the name of the “movement” as a party and is going to try and use it to damage the Republicans.”

    I would be suspicious of such claims, though I wouldn’t doubt the mendacity of a Democrat seeking to weaken Republicans in such a way. A new conspiracy theory that seems to be gaining traction in circles devoted to Rush Limbaugh’s brand of duopolist Republicanism effectively claims that any apparent grassroots conservative third party activism is really a conspiracy of liberal Democrats to weaken the Republican Party. I recently noted two examples of this theory at Poli-Tea. See here and here.

  7. libertarianblue

    And most of the tea party organizers are expressing concern that someone has hijacked the name of the “movement” as a party and is going to try and use it to damage the Republicans.

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    The Neocons are already doing this, whats the big surprise if a Democrat does it?

    One question I have why attempt another third party when there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party

  8. paulie Post author

    Hey guys, FYI — I’ve been hearing that there’s more to this story. Seems that the organizer was a Democratic lawyer. Lovenguth ran for State Senate last year as a Democrat.

    They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.

    Hmmm. Sounds like the fake Greens the Republican party got to run in Florida last year. Sauce for the goose? Taste of their own medicine?

  9. paulie Post author

    there are two already established pro-freedom third parties. Libertarian and Constitution Party

    Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party? On many social issues, as well as trade and immigration they are not. And on many of those same issues the Green Party is more of a freedom party than the Constitution Party.

  10. libertarianblue

    Why do you think the Constitution Party is a freedom party?

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    Gun rights and Patriot Act but thats really it. In my opinion they’re the religious right on steroids.

  11. paulie Post author

    Use-a-patrot act…Greens are good on that too. And some of them support gun rights. So far, from what I can tell, the CP is no more libertarian than the Greens are.

  12. Darcy G Richardson

    “They’ve publicly announced that they plan to target certain Republicans in the state house for defeat next year.”

    I guess paranoia is really running deep in the Florida GOP these days.

    I don’t know about the Tea Party’s potential state legislatives candidates, but George Lovenguth strikes me as a pretty sincere individual, not the type who would allow himself to be used in some sort of mischievous scheme to make life difficult for Florida Republicans next year — a party, incidentally, that has brought the state to the brink of fiscal calamity, not only saddling it with a budget shortfall of at least $2.6 billion in FY 2010-11, but also a staggering unemployment rate of 11.2%.

    If nothing else the “Tea Party” recognizes that Florida’s Republican-dominated legislature has completely mismanaged the state. The $2.66 billion SunRail boondoggle is just the latest example. Watching Republican lawmakers — the same folks who had rejected high-speed rail on two previous occasions — trip all over themselves in their Keynesian quest for federal stimulus dollars, was the last straw for many fiscal conservatives and Tea Party-types.

    By the way, even if this is some sort of Democratic ploy — and I’m not suggesting for a moment that it is — how does this differ from the five “mystery” Green Party candidates for the Florida legislature last year, all of whom were believed to have been recruited by the Republicans in districts with seemingly vulnerable Democratic incumbents?

  13. Darcy G Richardson

    Paulie,

    Sorry. I didn’t see your earlier post (#13). We’re definitely in agreement; turnabout is fair play.

    I’ll give you a call later this afternoon.

    Darcy

  14. Austin Cassidy

    You’re right… it’s not that different at all. The fake Greens was the same sort of deal.

    The evidence is extremely clear. The founder is a Democratic lawyer… the U.S. Senate candidate is a former Democratic State Senate nominee from the area I live in.

    And he’s colorful…

    http://www.jaxdaily.com/2008/04/29/democrat-to-challenge-senator-wise/

    If liberty and limited government is his primary cause now, it wasn’t always the case. This is from last year…

    “George Anthony Lovenguth is currently a candidate for the district 5 state senate seat now held by a republican in what always a democratic district. George Anthony Lovenguth plans on retaking that district for the democrats. Mr. Lovenguth was an aide to the man spoken of in the below link. The The Democratic Party of Duval has not won an election in “how many years” ? In 1973-1991 George Anthony Lovenguth assisted Mayor George Otlowski, a democrat who achieved great social and cultural buildings and economic development in Middlesex County during his terms in office. He appointed George Anthony Lovenguth as the first Downtown Re-development Committee Chairman in Perth Amboy, NJ. in 1988. Perth Amboy New Jersey is a model of success and growth. Another fact, The Middlesex County Democratic Party wins and keeps the democrats in power. The Duval Democratic Party loses constantly and the word is that in their ranks are republicans posing as democraqts; they are ridden with republican spies; nothing really to be proud about here. George Anthony Lovenguth will fight to re-establish the democratic party in Duval, Nassau, Clay, and St. Johns County and will fight with his research and his pen everyone especially for the veterans and the elderly and for educating the young ones; with or without them. The democratic party of northeast Florida needs to rid its ranks of the impostors if they really want to ever get elected again.”

  15. Darcy G Richardson

    You’re right, Austin, it’s a little fishy. I checked out Frederic B. O’Neal, the Orlando attorney who’s listed as the party’s chairman. I couldn’t find too much about him recently, but he was a big contributor to the Democratic National Committee back in the 90s. I think at one time he was also a big support of Richard Lamm of Colorado.

  16. Darcy G Richardson

    “supporter of Richard Lamm” — sorry, it’s getting late and my eyes are getting tired.

    By the way, Austin, do the Republicans plan to field a candidate against Mia Jones in the 14th district? Thanks.

  17. Austin Cassidy

    I don’t know of anyone planning to run. That’d be a tough district for a Republican to win in… but anything’s possible.

  18. Lovenguth

    To Clarify:

    Lovenguth was a democrat who left that group after realizing the Florida democrats and the Florida republicans are one of the same.

    Lovenguth is a TEA poltical party candidate in Florida and will register all the new young Florida voters he can to get out the vote and replace both republican and democrat and get Florida back to being an American, people represented state.

    It’s almost 2010 folks and the mindset that Florida will always be republican controlled is false. I will do my best with my fellow veterans, the elderly, and the new young voters to bring an independent mindset back to Florida.

    In the United States of America we do this by voting. But first we must register the young folks to vote. I will register them as Tea political party members.

    For those writing about conspiracy theories, you sound like little sheep who fear being free and baa much like the R & D bosses have taught you to.

    Lovenguth is very much the real deal and you may want to research him, as he isn’t taking any corporation funds and needs you to “Pass the Word” for him. He hasn’t, and will not be told how to vote by anyone but the people who vote for him.

    Expect to see such negative stories as R & D candidates have millions of dollars from corporations who don’t want Lovenguth as Senator. They want to control who they put money on. Including you. Isn’t that clear?

    Now, Goto: http://www.TeaParty.Pro and register to vote. That’s step one.

    Jorge Antonio Lovenguth

  19. Pete Hawkins

    The question is, who are this new Florida Party’s supporters, who, exactly are their people? No one tea party activist we know has signed up. The first clue is the thing was really founded by the infamous Doug Guetzloe- he’s a scumbag and crook and exploiter. He’s proven he’ll always support whoever pays him – even if it means higher taxes.

    O’Neal is Guetzloe’s attorney and pal.

    All of us down here in the Florida tea party movement are pretty miffed that these two guys have stolen our name and are trying to build their own power and influence in a fake effort.

    Most apparent here is the Guetzloe/O’Neal Party’s vocal support of Paula Dockery, a RINO candidate for governor.

    Dockery is a pro-choice, free spending liberal who stands with trial lawyers instead of citizens and doctors and business owners. She is completely out of touch with Republican Primary voters in the state of Florida, who stand with AG Bill McCollum who has a long and distinguished record as a true conservative.

    But here’s the trick: be ready for Dockery’s third party run for govnernor after a McCollum primary victory – in the fake TEA Party.

  20. Don Reid

    Interesting to see the vicious attacks on two great Patriots – Doug Guetzloe and Fred O’Neal.
    Guetzloe hosts an award-winning tea party radio show (and has for 11 years now) http://www.Guetzloe.com. He has fought the RINO’s in the Republican Party for decades. His reputation is stellar among Patriots – not so much among RINO’s and those that oppose our tea party views.

    O’Neal has fought taxes and become one of the best constitutional lawyers in the state.

    It appears that the fake-tea party folks in south Florida – the Wilkenson KKK types – aren’t happy because a legitimate party is now authorized and gaining steam.

    Real Patriots don’t attack other Patriots.

    http://www.FloridaTeaParty.us – check it out and see for yourself.

  21. Michael Lomsak

    I read all these comments and come away with the idea that most of the posters can spend much time evaluating the underlying plots of each party and what other party is manipulating the outcome of an election. Why dont you put your energy into solidarity as a third party? In society and people in general, there is a divide and conquer theory that works very well. As long as there is no solidarity it is easy to defeat an enemy. The third party being the enemy. Mr Reid finishes his post with “Real Patriots dont attack other Patriots”. Divide and conquer.

    What America and Americans crave the most is honesty in government that is for the people, not just a select few (special interest groups) but for all Americans. Right now our so called representatives, vote on their own personal agendas. They dont seem to realize that my vote and everybody else that voted for them is who they represent. It is an honor to be a representative not a right! They are not there for their own self indulgence but to vote for their constituents betterments and the betterment of the country as a whole. Its not about “the party’s” agenda but the welfare of the country and the constituents you represent. As long as whoever runs for whatever office has the good of the Americans, he/she represents, they will have their hearts in the right place and be a good representative. If they can avoid greed and corruption they will go far with Americans. I personally grow tired of all the fence jumping politicians who change their party by the way the wind blows in order for them to achieve personal gains. These are the lowest of the lows in my book.

    In closing, what’s right is right and the sooner the personal agendas are dropped, and the people unite, the sooner we will have the representation that all Americans deserve.

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