France’s two leading environmental parties start on the path to a merger

From MonstersandCritics.com:

Les Verts (the Greens) and the Europe Ecologie (EE) parties meet Saturday in Lyon for a congress to approve the merger and agree on a new name for the future party.

Les Verts were established in 1984 in a fusion of an environmentalist party and various groups, and in 1997 they gained seven seats in the national parliament.

The EE’s most prominent member is European member of parliament Daniel Cohn-Bendit.

Last year, the two parties joined forces in the European Parliament elections, gaining 16.3 per cent of the French vote. Their success continued in regional elections early in 2010.

On August 21, the two parties also agreed to nominate former investigative judge Eva Joly as their joint candidate for the 2012 French presidential elections.

22 thoughts on “France’s two leading environmental parties start on the path to a merger

  1. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    Well what about the AMERICAN Environmentalist Party? Do we Nott exist? I mean IPR is SO big, that France is more important than the U.S. of America!
    Jerk!
    http://www.usparliament.org/

    The Eighth US Parliament
    8/6/2008 to 8/5/2012

    Prime Ministers:
    Gail Lightfoot [Libertarian], Ralph Hoffmann [Democratic-Republican], and Mary J. Ruwart [Libertarian]
    Secretaries:
    James Ogle [Free Parliamentary] and David Olkkola [Democratic]

    100 Elected Members of the Parliament (MPs)

    Libertarian Party – 22 Members of Parliament (MPs)
    Gail Lightfoot, Michael Badnarik, Mary J. Ruwart, Starchild, Ned Roscoe, Richard Winger, Gary Nolan, Cory Nott, Lawrence Samuels, Kristi Stone, Doug Tuma, Aaron Starr, Gabriella Douglas, Mark Hinkle, William J. Wagoner, Dwight Bailey, Richard Vinable, Aarde Atheian, Alex Plewniak, Howard Stern, Bob Barr, Zachary Scott Gordon [American Libertarian]

    Parties with One Seat – 16 MPs
    Vanessa Morley [Defender of the Republic], Darryl W. Perry [Boston Tea], Pat Buchanan [Reform], Orion Karl Daley [Balanced], Noam Chomsky [New], Mike Bogatirev [Environmentalist], Michale Treeplanter [Co-Operative], Michael Davis [Natural Law], David Frey [Socialist USA/California], Mark P. Steele [Discordian], Eric Charles [Orwellian], Michael Looney [Houseless], Eric Stevenson [Pizza], Lloyd Llewellen [Flying Saucer], John Coffey [Unity08] and Mike Banon [Skateboard]

    Green Party – 14 MPs
    Winona Laduke, David Cobb, Medea Benjamin, Mike Nelson, Susan Estes, Kevin Clark [Green/Libertarian], Patrick Purcell, Thomas Leavitt, Mike Rogers, Tad Robinson, Michael Grazian, Gary Swing, Brett Johnsen, Dinah Coffman

    Democratic Party – 9 MPs
    Dennis Kucinich, PRAVDA McCroskey, David Olkkola, Al Gore, Barbara Boxer, John Edwards, Jerry Brown, Victor Cantu, Ralph Hoffmann [Democratic-Republican]

    Independent – 8 MPs
    Arianna Huffington, Rob Elliott, Dale Gieringer, John Anderson, Kat Penisten, Michael Moore, Casper Leitch, Ralph Nader

    Republican Party – 8 MPs
    Ron Paul, Jim Doyle, Colin Powell, John McCain, Lani Guinier, Arnold Swarzenegger, Rush Limbaugh, Dennis Peron

    Pot Party – 5 MPs
    Nate Brown, Myra Fourwinds, Sister Somayah [Pot / Nigritian Kief], Brandon Garcia, Scott Comings

    Free Parliamentary Party – 4 MPs
    Laura Booth, Marcellius Smith [Parliament], Daniel Penisten [Free Parliament] and James Ogle

    Marijuana Party – 3 MPs
    Sabrina Melicia, Kelly Russell, J. Roach

    Peace and Freedom Party – 3 MPs
    Jan Tucker, Maureen Smith, Stewart Alexander

    Comedy Central – 2 MPs
    Stephen Colbert, Jon Stewart

    Info. Not Avail. – 2 MPs
    Clint Eastwood, Woody Harrelson

    Radical Revolutionary Party – 2 MPs
    Annie Garner, Jennifer Perkins

    Constitution Party – 2 MPs
    Michael Peroutka and Don J. Grundmann

    Total: 100 Members of Parliament (MPs)

    President Ron Paul [Republican]
    Vice President Gail Lightfoot [Libertarian]

  2. paulie

    I’ve already told you that we post international articles here sometimes. Thanks for posting this Ross.

    Please stop repeatedly posting lists of names James, the link and the part that comes before it is quite enough.

  3. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    Well, did you notice the Environmentalist Party’s founder MP Mike Bogatirev [Environmentalist] is one of 100, and we are the primary sponsors of The USA Parliament, Inc.?

    You’ll give the European Green Parties plenty of ink, you you won’t even allow the American Environmentalist Party, founded in AMERICA (not Germany, like the “American” Green Party) as party name on your index page.

    What are you trying to do, reform France first? Why don’t you just put a link of the French Green Party on your page next?

    IPR has no sense of who you should be listing.

    We threw you an automatic sub-machine gun, and it just dropped in the sand…we’re being decimated, and our numbers are rapidly diminishing, and we’re in confusion, disarray…
    we showed you the way off the beach, but you’re not cooperating…you’re too busy looking at each others’ badges and the bodies are quickly piling higher and higher…
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  4. Ross

    The FEC has the Environmentalist Party listed as “administratively terminated.” If they ever do anything newsworthy or write opinion pieces or anything like that, let us know.

  5. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    Oh sure you’ll be reporting on them, they were only up to date with the FEC until recently for about the last ~17 years.

    Well, we’re having an annual convention in 2011, just like we have been for the past fifteen years. And we’re Americans.

    I guess that means they don’t exist now, hugh? Well for your information, that just means they don’t need to file because they aren’t planning on receiving/spending(?) $5000. or more, and that’s all it means.

    For your information, voting is free for all Americans, and they are American, and the French are not. And the Green Party started in Germany, and Germans aren’t American either.

    In other words, you support non-Americans with free ink, more than you support free Americans with free ink.

    That’s all that means.
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  6. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    …and another thing, the American Environmentalist Party was founded in 1983, and we were running candidates then in 1983
    in Monterey County California. And we ran Tim Grady [Environmentalist] against MP Clint Eastwood [Info. Not Avail.], and probably gave
    Clint the idea for running for office in the first place. Because the Environmentalist Party was a media sensation in Carmel, BEFORE Clint ever hired Ronald Reagan’s personal campaign manager Sue Hutchinson. And we were having Tea parties in 1986, way before the Tea Party was ever known.

    Why don’t you call MP Bogatirev [Environmentalist] yourself? We’ve been trying to work with the Libertarians, bring pizza to their convention in ’92, educate them about the “All Party System” and so forth…just email me, and I’ll give you his number.

    The Libertarian Party bosses don’t give a damn about the All Party System, they’re too busy dictating.

    BTW, Bogatirev [Environmentalist], he’s really hard to contact, he only emails me about once every year or two.

    But he’s our Central California Parliament Secretary;
    http://www.usparliament.org/ss11-6.htm

    But I’m sure he can confirm, the American Environmentalist Party started BEFORE the French one, and we were already running candidates in 1983, and the French one didn’t even start til 1984 according to your bogus article.

    Their convention in France is probably small like the Environmentalist Party’s convention,
    but other than that at least WE’re American.

    And France has single winner districts too, so your article is probably just a bogus scam to get them free ink, anyway.
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  7. paulie

    Ogle,

    The American Environmentalist Party is not a category because they haven’t done anything significant.

    The US Green Party has elected mayors, has or has had ballot lines in dozens of states, sends out regular releases, gets hundreds of thousands of votes, has had elected state legislators, etc, etc, etc.

    “USA Parliament Inc” has also not done anything significant as far as I know. Until you started posting hundreds of repetitive and inane comments about it just recently, I never heard of it, and I scour alt-party and independent candidate news regularly. As best I can tell, it’s a role-playing game or fantasy league of some sort, although it may be even less that, since I don’t know to what extent anyone besides you really participates in it.

    We don’t really give a rat’s ass where any party was founded, although for whatever it’s worth, the US Green Party was founded in the US, and the German Green Party is separate from it, although they do have an international affiliation.

    Like I already said, we do international stories here sometimes, and we should and will keep doing them, regardless of whether you like it or not. Now, please take your “automatic submachine gun” referred to in comment #4 and stick it where the sun doesn’t shine.

  8. paulie

    *although it may be even less that, since I don’t know to what extent anyone besides you really participates in it.

    ………….

    At this point, my best guess is that is by and large people who haven’t bothered to take the time to ask you to stop using their names.

    Or, for that matter, you may still be using names of people that actually did ask you to stop using their names….

  9. Carey Campbell

    Well, I want to add my thanks for the post.

    The weekend convention in Lyon, France was NOT a simple affair.

    First, this must be seen in context of Dany Cohn-Bendit’s great success in the 2009 Euro elections for greens in France. Dany did it by building a larger more inclusive Europe Ecology party with Independents, Green Conservatives, libertarian Greens, and former Greens frustrated by the small leftist dogmatists that had wasted so much good will in the electorate, and cost so many Green votes.
    As I emailed this weekend with French Green Party friends, the differences and concerns seemed very similar to (a few, and by no means most, of my own experiences) in the U.S.
    Many of us have worked very hard to reach out and include Independents, Green Conservatives to build a bigger Independent Green Party.
    Dany Cohn-Bendit is the driving force. Full disclosure I know Dany and respect him. He is an old personal friend, from the late 1970’s and early 1980’s, when I lived and worked in Frankfurt am Main, Germany.
    Dany succeeded in building a bigger green tent in France. Yet, even Dany’s own brother Gabriel, with whom Dany wrote a book, even Gaby refused to go to this convention in Lyon. Gaby felt it a move too much to the left. Gaby’s beef can be read here.
    “Some of its members, including Cohn-Bendit’s brother, Gabriel, have refused to go to Lyon, claiming that the “marriage” has left some smaller green groups jilted and has anchored Europe Ecologie firmly on the left.”
    http://www.english.rfi.fr/environment/20101113-french-green-parties-merge-ahead-presidential-poll
    Gaby’s critique, I’ve seen Dany make also. At last 2009 German Green Party national convention Dany discussed the same point. Europe Ecologie was designed as more broad, and inclusive. What some here in the states call “post partisan”.
    The fate of the Greens/Europe Ecologie in France seems tied to Dany Cohn-Bendit. Dany is a cultural icon, and much loved. Greens would do best in France with Dany leading their presidential ticket in 2011.
    Dany would be a far more popular, and superior candidate for the Greens for President of France next year. Dany does not want to be candidate for President of France.
    Humorous as always, Dany says, being President of France would be a step down from his current position as President of the Green Party faction in the European Legislature
    We are flying to Zurich, Switerland Wednesday. I hope to see Dany on this trip, and hear his impressions of the weekend convention.
    Thanks for the post.
    Carey Campbell
    State Chairman, Independent Greens of Virginia
    http://www.VoteJoinRun.US
    703-351-1235

  10. paulie

    Thanks for the report, Carey.

    One more tap on the “enter” key between paragraphs would make that easier to read BTW 🙂

  11. Catholic Trotskyist

    Ogle, I will be joining USA Parliament soon. But I think it’s ok for IPR to post some international stories.

    Good that Daniel Cohn-Bendit is still active. I took a class where the professor mentioned him a couple years ago, but she thought he hadn’t done much since the late 1960s.

    I hope the Green parties in France do merge.

  12. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    #7

    I’ve already sent several news items to IPR, but they didn’t get posted. We’re holding the Central California Parliament election, in 2011.
    http://www.usparliament.org/ss11-6.htm
    That’s the “All Party System” (and independents).

    These are annual events, it’s out 15th consecutive year for electing at least one 100-member committee based on votes cast as proof under pure proportional representation (PR).

    And BTW, this isn’t exactly easy. You try to go to a Peace and Freedom Party convention, and get thrown out, because you’re not a member of their party. This is the M.O. of all parties, that’s pretty much how they cope with independents and outsiders. Not to mention through single winner or few winner executive committees, and
    little free speech and exclusionary practices.

    Same with Libertarian Party, they don’t allow non Libertarians.

    Your insults are nothing new to me. Hey, I’m working with multiple parties, votes cast as proof.

    Did you think I’ve never seen political opposition? That’s why we HAVE votes cast as proof. Because anyone can look at the ballots cast as proof, and see who the 100 members are, as elected under STV (single transferrable vote).

    And the USA-PAR has been using the Sainte-Lague parliament seat distribution system since day one, which uses STV.

    And BTW, The USA Parliament, Inc. is the only group that has been electing it’s 100-member American BoD since August 1st, 1995 under the All Party System (and independents), that I am aware. In fact, we were at that time, two PACs registered with the FEC, who merged as one into the The USA Parliament, Inc., as a FEC PAC on August 1st, 1995. We were the Green and the Environmentalist Party PACs then. We later dissolved the USA-PAR-PAC, because the costs for registering voters is much less than $5000./year.

    Where/why do you think the Pot and Marijuana Parties were born in February of 1997?

    Why do you think there’s so much splintering going on since 1992, when we first posted _The Case for Proportional Representation_, after John Cleese, on alt.elections in Usenet?

    A thread that drew a very high level amount of response from all over the world. Which caught the eye of Google founder Sergie Brin.

    We love splintering. Pluralists and control freak single winner neanderthals hate that.

    You guys are just like kids, just untrained, inexperienced “soldiers”, just barely about to arrive on the “Normandy Beach” of U.S. politics.

    And you’d better start loving what I’ve got, because your political survival depends on it.

    But you’re pretending you don’t know what I’m talking about. You think I’ve never seen that?
    Did you think I was born yesterday?

    You probably weren’t even born, when I decided to start the Bicycle Party in 1973.

    And BTW, Paulie, I’ve run for seven offices, and five of them were on the platform of voting reform through pure proportional representation (PR). Including for Governor of California in 1994 where I campaigned for this same issue. The Green Party bosses said “we don’t need no proportional representation, we’re for None of the Above”.

    The three real candidates lost to NOTA, NOTA received the plurality of about 46% and won.

    That was the California Green Party primary 1993/4.

    Well maybe they’ve (CA Greens) changed their minds now, maybe they’re for All of the Above, now. I’m for both, None of the Above and All of the Above. But I do I prefer All of the Above, it’s a much more inclusive and effective reform than None of the Above.

    But one thing for sure, those same party bosses have been screwing up in my opinion, supporting IRV (instant runoff voting), a single winner district system that attracts egotists.

    I’m not a censorious freak.

    I’ve been supporting the plan for an All Party System every year for fifteen years now. That requires free speech.

    I’m an artist, and I’m really into free speech…so much so that I love to exercise my free speech.

    But I’m not insulting people or attacking them directly, I’m just encouraging them to fight on my side. Against the anti-proportionalists, the pluralists.

    My biggest complaints are that you’re dragging your feet, not going fast enough. We’ve got the tools, the weapons…all need to do is coordinate.

    But apparently, YOU have a problem with that.

    And BTW, I was the one who founded the Green Party of America in around 1995 with the FEC, before MP Ralph Nader [Independent] even considered running for president.

    In fact, I wrote his assistants agreed to allow me to put his name on the USA Parliament’s first eballot, when there wasn’t even ever a candidate for US president for the Green Party, except Randy Toler [Green]. Toler had asked me to be his secretary in ’94, after I ran for CA Gov. and I said yes.

    Nader, he was categorized as “Public Citizen”. I was the FEC secretary for both Green and Environmentalist Parties’ prez candidates, in 1995, when the Green Party bosses attacked me, Toler and Bogatirev as being “not legit”.

    But we were way ahead of them, and they didn’t know it.

    MP Ralph Nader gave me permission to be on our ballot, and anyone who has asked, has been taken off the ballot and The USA Parlament, Inc.

    In fact, I welcome the improivements, please let me know if/when anyone wants off and their name will be removed ASAP. The votes are recounted and the next highest name is automatically elected in their stead.

    I gained a nod from the FEC that year (95?) that one secretary can help two parties back before Nader was a candidate. I’ve been working on this for THAT long…so maybe the Americans Elect Corp. will be the ones to take the info., the groundwork I’ve been laying. They’ll out maneuver the LP and the Greens, because you /they don’t want to work as a team of 100 with votes cast as proof.

    So we’ve been making news…more news than I can type here…many candidates have been participating…and we’ve been quite an influence over the years. Regardless of your opinion.

    All the ballots since 1995, all the voters who registered to vote on federal voter registration forms…it’s all safely kept as proof. So don’t be saying we’ve done nothing, lest you want to at least try to allow me to validate what I’m writing about, first.

    You want to drive me to where the ballots since 1995 are kept, I’ll be glad to show them to you. The cast ballots (and eballots transferred to paper) since ’95 are in the olde US Parliament building, being safely stored. I’ve already told you, I have proof.
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  13. paulie

    I’ve already sent several news items to IPR, but they didn’t get posted.

    Nothing that you sent us has been a news item.

    I’ve run for seven offices, [..]Including for Governor of California in 1994

    What offices, what years, and how many votes did you get?

  14. Single Winner District = Neanderthal Attractor

    Thank you for your interest.

    Who really gives a damn about the actual totals in an American plurality partisan two-party system? I can tell you the totals were low, and the establishment media was biased. That’s why I got involved, the bias made me furious in 1986 when we were running Grady against Clint in Carmel, CA. Grady actually did a better job in the debates, he was smarter, younger, taller, better actor, more articulate and an Environmentalist. (but I was biased too)

    Back then the word environmentalist wasn’t used much, and there was a big struggle as to who got to be the “real” environmentalists.

    I used to save some of that scrapbook type stuff, but I don’t anymore. I threw it out.

    But since you were nice enough to ask (and since I’m a ham for answering ), I’ll write you a brief statement from what I can remember.

    1988;
    Carmel, CA City Council (it was a non-partisan, but I proclaimed to be Environmentalist Party).
    I lost to Ken White and Jim Wright, they won the two open seats. They were “insiders”. The totals were low, as I was labeled the “outsider”.

    In 1989 I moved to Santa Cruz, got my business and residence demolished by FEMA after the Loma Prieta earthquake, so I ran for Santa Cruz city council in 1992.

    That’s when I found out about pure proportional representation, and went online and campaigned in Usenet with a terminal.

    That’s like a monitor, a keyboard and a modem, where you dialed into the Internet to connect.

    1992;
    You can read the story about our 1992 campaign for City Council in the link “History”, in The USA Parliament’s web site.
    http://www.usparliament.org/history.htm
    (I fashoined the story after John Cleese’s _Case for Proportiona Representation_ , about the Liberal Democrats in England, but I substituted the “Environmentalist Coalition, Independents and SCAN (Santa Cruz Action Network).

    I was the Environmentalist Party, and there was a Green, a Peace and Freedom and Democratic on our team. We won ~1/7th of the votes as a team, but we didn’t win one of the seven seats.

    The Democrats (SCAN) always wins all the seats, and the same people still win all the seats, all the time.

    1993;
    17th Congressional District, California. In it, I may have won about 2% of the total votes.
    We did get some pretty good PR though…TV, radio, and print.

    My friend MP Kevin Clark [Libertarian Green] also ran in the same election (he was a Green back then), there was about 23 candidates, and seven made the runoff including a Libertarian, American Independent, Green, two indpendents (An Independent and me, an independent), plus a D and a R. Kevin may have been the first Green Party member ever to run in California, because they had just gotten ballot qualified.

    He’s a close friend, and we talk all the time.

    When I ran for Congress in 1993, it was for Leon Panetta’s seat in 1993. You, know he’s a Democratic, head of the CIA now?
    He had just stood down to join Clinton as chief of staff, so his seat came open.
    He’s good people too, if you like intelligent Italian lawyers.

    1994;
    I switched to the Green Party and took out papers for the office of Governor of California, and lost in the primary. I came in 2nd, out of three people, and I got about 16% of the total votes for Governor as a Green. NOTA won the primary with a plurality of about 45%.

    BTW, I happen to be one of the few people ever defeated by NOTA, so you can see the Green Party voted against pure proportional representation. And I had a statement about PR that went out to every voter in California, in the voters’ pamphlet. Some of them liked it, but most had never heard about it.

    That’s why you run, to access free speech at the minimum, but again I was an outsider who the party bosses vehemeintly opposed.

    It created such a stir, that it was a huge ball of activity in Usenet, and it still goes on as an email list to this day. “King of Swing” was probably one of our members in ’95, if it’s the person I think it is…

    1996;
    Mayor of Pacic Grove. I was totally censored.
    Can’t remember what party…I think I was Reform Party, and later switched to Labor Party, because I was also simultaneously running for US Prez online and I was promoting the Internet as a campaign theme. I realized Perot wasn’t going to integrate my ideas, so I switched to Tony Mazootti’s Labor Party (I think it’s spelled something like Machutti, he’s of the USA Atmic Workers’ Union. (I’m pro-solar you know, but I figured it would be great to run as Labor, and so I went to a few meetings here and there.)

    1997;
    I think I may have also ran for Monterey Peninsula College Board too, somewhere in there, and was defeated by (James?) Tully, some NFL coach who lived in Pacific Grove.

    1998;
    Ran for city council as the Pot Party candidate in Sand City, CA. You can read a short story about that campaign on the Pot Party’s web site, the history link …

    Go to;

    http://www.usparliament.org/potparty.htm

    and scroll down to the bottom of the Pot Party page, and click on “Brief History of the Political Oppresion”, or something like that…

    We had a giant 4′ X 8′ sign on the sand dunes along the highway with a big pot leaf on it, and our opponants the incumbeents took our only sign down…but the had about 500 signs themselves.

    Then, I got politically oppressed by the city officials and my building was red tagged so I bought land and lived in the mountains from 2001 to 2009, I moved there in nthe middle of nowhere on 9/1/2001, ten days before 9/11.
    (It was good timing, I guess)

    But I still organized the Nor Cal Mini-state election and ALSO kept all the other annual cycles going which alternate on even and odd years;

    2011;
    The Central California Mini-state Parliament elections (next is 2011)
    2012;
    The 8th USA Parliament elections (next is 2012)
    2013;
    The Nor Cal Mini-state Parliament elections (next is 2013)
    2014;
    The 6th California Parliament elections (next is 2014)

    The cycles start on 2/1/2011 with nominations,
    and the elections run for about 100 days, from 4/20 to 8/5, and I help register voters by doing so.

    Each of the four having four year cycles, and alternating every four yeas.

    How do you like it?
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  15. tiradefaction

    Joggle, you’re still peddling that fantasy football league of yours?

    I think you should seek some professional help…

  16. Deran

    sweet merciless mary. Ogle, Milnes and Campbell should all set up their own fantasy role playing politics game and leave the real world alone. By giving Ogle and Campbell open reign to create an atmosphere of wackiness that just reinforces public perception that the non Dems and Reps are all nutters.

  17. Catholic Trotskyist

    Who’s Campbell? I don’t think he’s posted here. If you think my name is Campbell, you’re wrong.

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