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Nader Comments on: Tar Sands Arrests, Obama, Environmentalists, Green Party, etc.

Ralph Nader has run for President of the United States with the Green Party, and more recently, as an independent candidate. Nader recently posted an excellent piece of commentary on the Tar Sands Arrests at The White House…

Tar Sands Arrests on Obama’s Doorstep
by Ralph Nader, Reader Supported News / August 30, 2011


his is the second week of protests, led by Bill McKibben, in front of the White House demanding that President Barack Obama reject a proposed 1700 mile pipeline transporting the dirtiest oil from Alberta, Canada through fragile ecologies down to the Gulf Coast refineries. One thousand people will be arrested there from all fifty states before their demonstration is over [including, actress Daryl Hannah, on Tuesday, August 30th]. The vast majority voted for Obama and they are plenty angry with his brittleness on environmental issues in general…

Were Obama to look out his White House window and see the arrested and handcuffed demonstrators against this $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline, he might think: “This will upset my environmental supporters, but heck, where can they go in November 2012?”

He is right. No matter what Mr. Obama does to surrender environmental health and safety to corporatist demands, they will vote for him. They certainly won’t vote for the Republican corporate mascots. They wouldn’t vote for a Green Party candidate either. This is not only the environmentalists’ dilemma, it is the liberal/progressive/labor union dilemma as well. They have no bargaining power with Obama…

Above article via FOCUS: Tar Sands Arrests on Obama’s Doorstep.

Another opinion piece on The Tar Sands at here.


  1. paulie paulie September 5, 2011

    Of course, if rloy does make it back here, he or she is welcome to provide a different answer.

  2. paulie paulie September 5, 2011

    I responded because I also don’t believe that relying on fossil fuels and nuclear power is long term sustainable or healthy for the environment or for humans.

    I think your question to rloy is the functional equivalent of asking libertarians why we drive on regime roads or use regime monopoly money.

    Just because we would like the system to change does not mean we don’t live in the real world as it presently exists.

    Besides, I don’t know if rloy will be back to answer.

  3. paulie paulie September 3, 2011

    Why are you using a computer? Donโ€™t you know it is made from petroleum products? Or even eat food since so much of our food supply depends on petroleum?

    Perhaps neither of those would be the case in a truly free market?

    The corporate-statist economic system privatizes profit, but socializes risks and costs. It is fundamentally different from a free market.

    We should not assume that what makes sense for manufacturers, farmers, etc., given the present system, would still make sense in a free society.

  4. paulie paulie September 3, 2011

    I think rloy has a valid point.

    Obama seems to me to be a lot more like Bush Jr. than anything like a radical environmentalist.

    Many actions of government, including the military-industrial complex and limited liability/corporate personhood, distort the energy market towards fossil fuels and nuclear. Ironically, the whole mess of red tape, taxes and regulations does as well, since large, established companies are much better equipped to deal with it than underfunded startups.

    If the energy companies had to pay all of their costs and truly cover all their risks, I think renewable/alternative energy would be much more viable.

  5. Michael H. Wilson Michael H. Wilson September 2, 2011

    Hey rloy. I have a question for you. Why are you using a computer? Don’t you know it is made from petroleum products? Or even eat food since so much of our food supply depends on petroleum?

  6. rloy rloy September 2, 2011

    How is it possible for the wars to be conducted? The answer is massive fossil fuel consumption, which is exactly what the pipeline is intended to facilitate.

    And the right STILL insists that Obama is a “radical environmentalist” despite his continuation of offshore drilling, support for natural gas (which is even worse than coal), approval of this ecocidal pipeline, etc.

  7. Michael H. Wilson Michael H. Wilson September 1, 2011

    I would more impressed if people were getting arrested protesting this insane war!

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