Robert Milnes is Currently a Leading Candidate for the Boston Tea Party Presidential Nomination

Robert Milnes has received a surprising surge in support for the Presidential nomination of the Boston Tea Party, which holds all its nominee and officer elections online and is currently on the ballot in zero states.

The BTP previously nominated Tiffany Briscoe, but removed her as the presidential nominee after it turned out that she had falsely claimed to be a college graduate and part of the board of trustees of Howard County Community College. Briscoe is continuing her run as an independent, and says on her website that while she does not consider her removal as a candidate to have been proper, she has in fact resigned as the party’s candidate because she no longer wants to be a part of any political party. After Briscoe was removed, BTP chair Darryl Perry initially ruled that the party would not run a candidate for president, but his ruling was overturned by a vote of the membership.

In 2008, the party ran Charles Jay for President and was on the ballot in three states. The BTP’s one sentence platform is “The Boston Tea Party supports reducing the size, scope and power of government at all levels and on all issues, and opposes increasing the size, scope and power of government at any level, for any purpose.”

As of this writing Milnes is only one vote behind the leading candidate for the nomination, Jim Duensing. In previous runs for the nomination of the BTP, including this past December, Milnes has usually received only one vote (presumably his own). He has also been a 2008 and 2012 candidate for the Green and Libertarian Party nominations, but has not received any votes that I know of at either party’s conventions (he himself has been unable to afford to travel to attend as a delegate).

Milnes supports a Progressive-Libertarian alliance strategy whereby a progressive male presidential candidate would appear on a joint ticket with a libertarian female VP, which he believes would lead to them being elected to the Presidency of the United States following an endorsement by the National Education Association and other labor unions.

In keeping with the BTP platform, Milnes is a strong advocate for privacy rights and sexual freedom (that is, he is outraged that “determined to stop the “wrong person” from being elected president of the United States, the FBI is spying on presidential candidates — through their television sets!

Even more frighteningly, top TV news babes are “in” on this bizarro FBI conspiracy — and are even watching the candidates masturbate to them as they report the news!”)

Milnes has also been a vigilant observer and whistleblower of media and political shenaningans. His achievements include being the first to discover the Briscoe duplicity, calling into question whether I (Paulie) am a government plant*, and calling for an investigation into the death of Libertarian Party co-founder David Nolan, who Milnes believes died mysteriously.

In discussing BTP ballot access plans Milnes has said “I’m not a ballot access expert. I never claimed to be. It is not a requirement for a candidate. It is the party’s responsibility.” He further explained “I haven’t finished paying my March rent yet. I have a water leak from frozen pipes this winter which is soaking my carpet. Water turned off. I’m going to lead a hose into the kitchen and another into the bathroom.”

The two leading BTP presidential nomination contenders, Duensing and Milnes, agree that the party should change its name to the Lexington Green Party. Milnes writes “But his suggestion of Lexington Green party I find very appealing but probably not for the same reasons as he. I would say the Lexington Green party is one of radical libertarians, radical enough to colaborate with the Green party to overthrow the reactionary dems & reps. So I propose changing the party name to the Lerxington Green party.” The Green Party of Lexington, KY has not yet been reached for comment.

In discussing plans for the campaign, Milnes writes “I will say again which I have said MANY times. I’m too broke & depressed to do much. I am barely able to take care of myself. I was barely able to get to the NJ/PA conference/debate in 2008 . I was barely able to get to the forum debate in Swarthmore this January. [..] I already proposed that if I get the nomination I can go around getting millions of progressive supporters starting with NEA. That is the best I can do under the present circumstances I’m in.”

John Wayne Smith is also running, and NOTA is a candidate in every BTP election.

(*Breaking news from Paulie posted at bostontea.us: “I take it all back.

… seeing your numbers in the current voting round has made me change my mind about you [Milnes].

I’m voting for you this time and I have to admit that while I have been both a plant and a jerk up until now, seeing the potential for you to actually win the nomination and, thus, the presidency has empowered me to cast off my shackles, spurn my government masters and come out in support of your candidacy.”)

38 thoughts on “Robert Milnes is Currently a Leading Candidate for the Boston Tea Party Presidential Nomination

  1. Rob Banks

    I voted for Milnes.

    Like Paulie I too have seen the light!

    Vote for Milnes. Because it is April 1 and really, who else can you vote for on a day like today?

  2. Nick

    I was never partial to the BTP as I do not believe in what they believe, but I wish them luck anyway.

  3. Let the T-Rex of Talk Radio Entertain U2day

    This truly shows they had the correct initials in mind when they named this Party. BTP !

    B = Beat
    T = Thy
    P = Pecker

    while watchiung thy local lady newscaster ! Party on Thy Brothers !!

    It is sure to gain millions of activist participants in the days and weeks ahead !!! (if you know what i mean)

    Bob Milnes/Pee Wee Herman 2012

    Confusion-R-us (confusius) say: man who beat around bush has sticky leaves…..

    If you didn’t know it Milnes’ grandmother was a Rothchild, that’s right THE Rothchilds!

    The Rothschilds Exposed 2/3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Yjoi2_5pw&NR=1

    The Rothschilds Exposed 3/3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47WM2BhklmM&feature=related

    It’s Official! Obama is an Illegal President! Now What? – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVSqtMDFiY4&feature=share

    The CFR, Clinton, Obama, Rockefeller, Romney – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA_CfSbhNrA&NR=1&feature=endscreen

  4. Steven Wilson

    If Milnes does win, has Barrick stated that she will campaign with him?

    Be Warned
    They’re coming to get you Barbara!!

    Foil hats and motor-home bats.

  5. Wang Tang-Fu

    Jim Duensing (only)
    27% (7 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    23% (6 votes)
    Robert Milnes (only)
    19% (5 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and Robert Milnes
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    NOTA (only)
    12% (3 votes)
    Total votes: 26

  6. Wang Tang-Fu

    Do I understand correctly that all votes that include Milnes accrue to him – that is, not just the 5 for Milnes only but also Jim Duensing and Robert Milnes
    4% (1 vote), Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote), and Jim Duensing, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote), that is, 8 votes for Milnes?

  7. Thomas L. Knapp

    @12,

    Yes, that’s correct.

    The cumbersome list is the only way to make approval voting work in the polling software available for the site’s architecture, unfortunately, so it requires some hand-counting.

    Doesn’t look like anyone’s near the 50% required to be nominated. Hopefully NOTA will continue to pick up steam.

  8. Ad Hoc

    Jim Duensing (only)
    23% (6 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    23% (6 votes)
    Robert Milnes (only)
    19% (5 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    8% (2 votes)
    Jim Duensing and Robert Milnes
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    NOTA (only)
    12% (3 votes)
    Total votes: 26

    Thus…

    Duensing 6+2+1+1+1=11
    Milnes 5+1+1+1=8
    Smith 6+2=8
    NOTA 1+1+1+3 = 6

    However, I understand that NOTA continues to be a candidate until the last round (correct me if I am wrong), so if Milnes and Smith remain tied for second place I’m not sure what happens next.

  9. ctomp

    Knapp… is Duensing correct when he makes this statement on the BTP website:

    “According to the bylaws, the candidate receiving the fewest votes is removed and a new round of balloting begins. With a tie for the fewest votes, both of those candidates are removed and a third round of balloting begins.”

  10. Thomas L. Knapp

    ctomp@18,

    The first sentence is correct. The second sentence is apparently something that Duensing thinks sounds good, but it’s not specified in the BTP’s bylaws.

  11. George Phillies

    @18,19 The Libertarian Party process would remove both.

    In the absence of a specific statement elsewise, if there is a tie there is no candidate (singular) receiving the fewest votes, because there are two of them.

  12. George Phillies

    The current displayed numbers on their web page have changed again. Let us thank Mr Wang for the last forwards, and ask him to give us another one.

  13. Thomas L. Knapp

    The current BTP voting system is problematic in several ways, including that it would be damn near impossible to figure out if a winner had indeed won.

    In order to win the nomination, a candidate has to get the most votes AND votes from a majority of those voting.

    The old Drupal “advanced polling” module made it easy to tell whether that had happened, with its “approval voting” option.

    At some point, though, that module became unusable as Drupal evolved and the module didn’t. So now we have to kludge up a long list … and there’s no way to tell who voted for whom (and therefore whether or not any candidate got votes from a majority). Even looking over raw access logs would just show who voted, not for whom they voted.

    So unless a candidate gets an absolute majority, there’s just no way to know that he or she got votes from a majority of voters.

    That’s interesting, and now that it has occurred to me, it might be a basis for action to invalidate the process entirely.

  14. Thomas L. Knapp

    Doh. Upon further examination, I was wrong — it is possible to get that figure from the available data. I guess I can’t invalidate the farce on a technicality.

  15. Thomas L. Knapp

    On the matter of the candidate with the fewest votes being eliminated, for once Milnes is right: He argues that if there’s a tie for fewest votes, there is by definition no “candidate with the fewest votes”. The voting round will just have to be repeated.

  16. Thomas L. Knapp

    @21,

    “The current displayed numbers on their web page have changed again.”

    They haven’t changed since yesterday evening, when the poll closed.

  17. Wang Tang-Fu

    The poll has reopened at round 3, apparently with the same choices as round 2.

  18. Wang Tang-Fu

    Final numbers for Round 2 were

    Jim Duensing (only)
    23% (6 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    27% (7 votes)
    Robert Milnes (only)
    15% (4 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and Robert Milnes
    8% (2 votes)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    4% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    NOTA (only)
    12% (3 votes)
    Total votes: 26

    The current numbers for round 3, which can change:

    Jim Duensing (only)
    45% (5 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    27% (3 votes)
    Robert Milnes (only)
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and Robert Milnes
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    9% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith, Robert Milnes and NOTA
    0% (0 votes)
    NOTA (only)
    18% (2 votes)
    Total votes: 11

  19. Let the T-Rex of Talk Radio Entertain U2day

    @ 29 She must want one of those pretty pink shirts….

    Many people claim that “libertarians are always whining about government being the problem, but they never offer solutions.” Let “Problem? Solved!” offer the solutions they seek. This is an alphabetically arranged list of common problems in society which are used to justify a government, and some of the possible, liberty-compatible solutions that could be used to solve the problems. No coercion needed! – http://www.kentforliberty.com/books.html

    7 Reasons Why Mitt Romney’s Electability Is A Myth by John Hawkins,
    Mitt Romney was a moderate governor in MA with an unimpressive record of governance. He left office with an approval rating in the thirties and his signature achievement, Romneycare, was a Hurricane Katrina style disaster for the state. Since that’s the case, it’s fair to ask what a Republican who’s not conservative and can’t even carry his own state brings to the table for GOP primary voters. The answer is always the same: Romney is supposed to be “the most electable” candidate. This is a baffling argument because many people just seem to assume it’s true, despite the plethora of evidence to the contrary.

    1) People just don’t like Mitt: …
    2) He’s a proven political loser: …
    3) Running weak in the southern states: …
    4) His advantages disappear in a general election: …
    5) Bain Capital: …
    6) The Mormon Factor: …
    7) He’s a flip-flopper…

  20. paulie Post author

    Seems that Duensing has a pretty considerable lead at this point.

    Milnes has been eliminated, although he put up more of a fight than I initially expected.

    Jim Duensing (only)
    45% (9 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    20% (4 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    5% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    5% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    10% (2 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    5% (1 vote)
    NOTA (only)
    10% (2 votes)

  21. Dennis

    It is official: Milnes needs to go independent. He can’t let this Mil-mentum die down so soon, it could very well propel him, and his sexy female running mate, to the White House.

  22. Paulie

    @33 Sho ya right!

    @32 updated:

    Jim Duensing (only)
    45% (10 votes)
    John Wayne Smith (only)
    23% (5 votes)
    Jim Duensing and John Wayne Smith
    5% (1 vote)
    Jim Duensing and NOTA
    5% (1 vote)
    John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    9% (2 votes)
    Jim Duensing, John Wayne Smith and NOTA
    5% (1 vote)
    NOTA (only)
    9% (2 votes)
    Total votes: 22

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