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Gary Johnson Vs the Zombies

http://youtu.be/NgnyZdClTpM

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  1. George Whitfield September 28, 2012

    This video reminds me of the Bob Dylan gospel song, “When You Gonna Wake Up.” Sadly many Americans won’t understand what is happening until the US Government defaults.

  2. Darryl W. Perry September 27, 2012

    Stewart Flood, I let JJ (the producer of this ad) know that you may be interested in airing a 59.5 second version of this.
    Hopefully, he gets in touch with you to possibly make this an air-able ad.

  3. paulie September 27, 2012

    Of course, that doesn’t mean the video is necessarily a bad idea. I was just voicing the concern I had when I watched it.

    Yes, concern acknowledged and weighed, and I see more upside than downside for the reasons I gave in response.

  4. JT September 26, 2012

    Paulie: “There are quite a few people that reluctantly vote for the big two out of inertia, or don’t vote (but could); they may well respond positively to this type of appeal, even if they are among those who have personally voted D/R in the past.”

    Right. I’m saying that it’s likely that many such people who are used to choosing Democrats over Republicans or vice versa–even if they’d be open to us–would be turned off by the implication that people who vote Democratic or Republican are zombies if they’ve generally done so themselves. I know I wouldn’t like it if someone told me that something I’d been doing is because I don’t think.

    Of course, that doesn’t mean the video is necessarily a bad idea. I was just voicing the concern I had when I watched it.

  5. paulie September 26, 2012

    I said if a goal is to get people who are typically Democratic or Republican voters–which are most of them

    I realize that.

    I just don’t think people who like being lockstep D/R-oids will vote for us regardless, so I’m not worried about offending them.

    There are quite a few people that reluctantly vote for the big two out of inertia, or don’t vote (but could); they may well respond positively to this type of appeal, even if they are among those who have personally voted D/R in the past.

  6. paulie September 26, 2012

    I think the people that would view it negatively are far less likely to vote for us under any circumstances.

    There would be a lot of people who would view it positively and be more likely to vote LP as a result, even if they are a minority overall, but first we have to do something that they notice to begin with. For most of them, they’ve never even heard of us or they have, but we’ve never done anything that gets them to notice us.

    Being a non-entity that most people barely know exists, if at all, is no way to get support.

    Getting noticed with a majority disapproval, but a large niche of approval, is better than flying below noise level.

  7. JT September 26, 2012

    Paulie: “There’s a lot of voters who are not lockstep Democrats and Republicans, and I think this is a good way to get their attention.”

    Yes. I said if a goal is to get people who are typically Democratic or Republican voters–which are most of them–then I’m not sure if it’s going to achieve that. That doesn’t mean it can’t appeal to anyone else.

  8. JT September 26, 2012

    Paulie: “However, youtube videos that get shared enough eventually can reach a lot of people and even force traditional media outlets to report on them and their subject matters.”

    That’s true. Could possibly happen. Still not a novel idea & would have to get a huge number of views. Then there’s the question of whether more people would consider it a lame stunt that negatively affects perception of GJ than those who view it positively.

  9. paulie September 26, 2012

    This video made me laugh. My only concern was that it implies that Democratic & Republican voters don’t think. Whether or not that’s true, I’m not sure that’s a persuasive way to appeal to them, if that’s a goal.

    There’s a lot of voters who are not lockstep Democrats and Republicans, and I think this is a good way to get their attention.

  10. JT September 26, 2012

    This video made me laugh. My only concern was that it implies that Democratic & Republican voters don’t think. Whether or not that’s true, I’m not sure that’s a persuasive way to appeal to them, if that’s a goal.

  11. paulie September 26, 2012

    I’ve always liked GJ, but this reminds of Mike Gravel. Bizarre.

    I like Gravel’s videos a lot. Nader had some pretty creative ones as well.

  12. paulie September 26, 2012

    I think that’s what I was remembering. It was definitely before 2008. Anyway, I remember when Badnarik & Cobb did it. Their campaigns thought it would be huge news widely reported. As I recall, it wasn’t.

    It was not well organized enough.

  13. paulie September 26, 2012

    Yes. I meant coverage from outside news sources, Paulie. Not people putting it up themselves online. Anyone can do that & it’s not taken as seriously as if, say, the Huffington Post reports it.

    I realize that.

    However, youtube videos that get shared enough eventually can reach a lot of people and even force traditional media outlets to report on them and their subject matters.

    It’s just one tool that can make a debate protest more effective now than eight years ago.

  14. JT September 26, 2012

    Paulie: “Youtube makes a big difference in publicizing the event/action.”

    Yes. I meant coverage from outside news sources, Paulie. Not people putting it up themselves online. Anyone can do that & it’s not taken as seriously as if, say, the Huffington Post reports it.

    Curt: “Nader confronted the guards in 2000 because he had a ticket to get in, but he was not arrested.”

    I think that’s what I was remembering. It was definitely before 2008. Anyway, I remember when Badnarik & Cobb did it. Their campaigns thought it would be huge news widely reported. As I recall, it wasn’t.

  15. Curt Boyd September 26, 2012

    Nader confronted the guards in 2000 because he had a ticket to get in, but he was not arrested.

  16. paulie September 26, 2012

    Youtube makes a big difference in publicizing the event/action.

    Social networks online are also much more extensive than in 2004.

    As far as I can remember there were no arrests at the 2008 debates.

  17. JT September 26, 2012

    Nader has run so much that I can’t remember when he did it. It may have been more than once, or not.

    There was no YouTube in 2004? I don’t remember, but what did people ever do before that? 😉

    By “media coverage” I meant TV, radio, newspaper & online news site coverage.

  18. paulie September 26, 2012

    This isn’t a novel idea. It has been done before a bunch of times by candidates who’ve been locked out (Nader did it & I think Badnarik did also). I don’t believe they got much media coverage though. Maybe a bit.

    Badnarik/Cobb is the only time I know of, and we didn’t have youtube. Facebook existed, but was much smaller (I think it was still limited to a few universities at that time).

    When did Nader or the other candidates you mention do it? Any in 2008?

  19. zapper September 26, 2012

    “amateur” … I’m used to another site where I can post and then read and edit.

  20. zapper September 26, 2012

    It’s a cute amature production. It’s fine for YouTube and fine for motivating the already committed. It wouldn’t be good for TV, it won’t go viral and won’t have much impact on numbers but it doesn’t hurt. It does give volunteers a chance to participate and to “own” the campaign, so it’s all good.

  21. Robert Capozzi September 26, 2012

    Ya know, maybe “amateur” sells, but I’m not seeing it and can think of no instances where it worked and many where it didn’t…

  22. JT September 26, 2012

    Andy: “This is why I suggested that the Johnson campaign should organize protesters to show up at the debates, and that Gary Johnson and Jim Gray should show up with the protesters and they should try to enter the debates.”

    This isn’t a novel idea. It has been done before a bunch of times by candidates who’ve been locked out (Nader did it & I think Badnarik did also). I don’t believe they got much media coverage though. Maybe a bit.

    Of course, GJ’s goal was to get into the debates. Some posters on this site argued that was going to happen (or at least was a realistic goal). Wonder where they are now.

  23. ctomp September 26, 2012

    I’ve always liked GJ, but this reminds of Mike Gravel. Bizarre.

  24. Michael H. Wilson September 26, 2012

    My wife tells me she heard a great report this morning on NPR about Gary Johnson and the campaign.

  25. Andy September 26, 2012

    “Stewart Flood // Sep 26, 2012 at 8:18 am

    Maybe “amateur” is what we need. The idea is to get media attention.”

    This is why I suggested that the Johnson campaign should organize protesters to show up at the debates, and that Gary Johnson and Jim Gray should show up with the protesters and they should try to enter the debates. When the police arrest them the protesters should video record it (with multiple cameras) and the videos should immediately be put on YouTube. The mainstream media will attempt to bury the story, so the alternative media and the foreign media ought to be contacted in advance, and I’d be willing to bet that they would cover the story.

  26. Andy September 26, 2012

    LOL! Cool commercial.

  27. Stewart Flood September 26, 2012

    Maybe “amateur” is what we need. The idea is to get media attention. What better way than to call them out as political zombies during their debate?

  28. Robert Capozzi September 26, 2012

    somebody had some fun here, but this one’s amateur hour, and it shows…

  29. Eric Sundwall September 26, 2012

    Is zapper a zombie?

  30. Zapper September 26, 2012

    Cute idea. IMO not well executed.

  31. Stewart Flood September 25, 2012

    If this were 59.5 seconds, we could run it on tv locally during the debates.

  32. George Whitfield September 25, 2012

    It’s not too late zombies to break out of your blue and red boxes, wake up, come alive and vote for Gary Johnson! Live free.

  33. Oranje Mike September 25, 2012

    The Gov could easily land a role in a Troma film with those acting chops. Great ad.

  34. Jill Pyeatt Post author | September 25, 2012

    This one is hilarious! I hope it gets lots of hits.

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