A pin for Gary Johnson, who has expressed interest in possibly seeking the Libertarian Party presidential nomination in 2016
From the August 2013 edition of Liberty for America:
Our Party has its first Presidential election poll for 2016. As run by Libertarian Joe Wendt of Florida, the surveymonkey poll revealed
George Phillies 17%
Jesse Ventura 17%
Jim Burns 15%
Jim Gray 9%
Lee Wrights 9%
Mary Ruwart 7%
Adam Kokesh 7%
Darryl Perry 6%
John Wayne Smith 5%
Adrian Wyllie 4%
Robert Milnes 2%
Kip Lee 2%
Wendt reports that he is opening a new poll, removing Jesse Ventura and Adam Kokesh (due to age, Kokesh will be ineligible for the presidency in 2016, but he has expressed interest in running in 2020 -KL), and adding Carla Howell and Jim Duensing, a question about the Vice Presidential candidate, and a question about whether the pollee plans to attend the 2016 National Convention.
In the above poll, only Perry, Milnes and Lee have actually declared their intentions of seeking the LP’s nomination. – KL
But maybe Ron Paul should be considered? If Rand doesn’t get the GOP nod Ron might consider the LP line. Dreaming I know.
How would the timing work on that? Also, Rand would just go into 2020 mode, and having Ron as the LP candidate in 2016 (and possibly blamed for electing Hillary) would hurt him with that.
I put Stevens on there because 1) he is well-known within the party, 2) you know he just might run because of his own ego.
Stevens only runs for president himself as an objectivist party candidate. He prefers to muck up the LP nomination with candidates other than himself.
Phil Davison should have been included in this poll…
No.
money on ads. GJ spent damn near zero.
Ron Nielson told me they spent a quarter million on radio.
“Warren Redlich // Aug 12, 2013 at 11:49 am
Johnson should be included in any polls. But maybe Ron Paul should be considered? If Rand doesn’t get the GOP nod Ron might consider the LP line. Dreaming I know.”
I’d love to have seen Ron Paul run for President as an LP candidate again, but I don’t think it is going to happen. I think that Ron Paul’s days of being a candidate are over. He’s still got a lot of things going as a pro-liberty activist though.
“Warren Redlich // Aug 12, 2013 at 7:57 pm
@15 There’s no comparison. Paul spent a lot golf money on ads. GJ spent damn near zero.”
The ads that the Gary Johnson campaign made which were posted on-line were actually pretty damn good. It is too bad that more people did not get to see them.
“Joe Wendt // Aug 12, 2013 at 6:48 pm
@ 21: IDK, probably some mindless automaton will vote for Stevens.”
I’m thinking that Tom Stevens would probably have to pay people off to get them to vote for him.
@24… at least Johnson didn’t blow it on family members as campaign “professionals”!
Golf should be of. Weird autocorrect.
@15 There’s no comparison. Paul spent a lot golf money on ads. GJ spent damn near zero.
@13 Okay then. As long as you didn’t do it out of common sense or fair play.
@ 21: IDK, probably some mindless automaton will vote for Stevens. I personally prefer Phillies.
“19 Joe Wendt // Aug 12, 2013 at 4:41 pm
I put Stevens on there because 1) he is well-known within the party, 2) you know he just might run because of his own ego. No matter how much of a joke he is, it’s only fair to list him.”
Would anyone actually vote for him, other than him voting for himself?
I have asked Warren to approve a poll including only those who are running or have expressed interest. It would be an official IPR poll.
I put Stevens on there because 1) he is well-known within the party, 2) you know he just might run because of his own ego. No matter how much of a joke he is, it’s only fair to list him.
It’s an interesting poll, but why is “Doctor” Tom on there? C’mon, he’s a parasite in the Libertarian Party. He should be ostracized from it as much as humanly possible.
Readers interested in seeing the new survey may do so at
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/K8QVGCS
So we are clear, the voting thing was difficult to work, particularly regarding the VP section.
Tom Stevens would not be ranked 7 billionth on a scale of 1-16 by me, and there is a number much fewer thn 7 Billion when describing all of the people in the world.
I would sooner see a mosquito as president than Tom Stevens. At least when a Mosquito sucks the blood from an organization, it will be dead long before it can start sucking the blood from another. Tom Stevens has sucked the blood from so many organizations, and we are finally swatting him out of Pennsylvania.
Anyway, my suggestion is to stay clear of him.
“Johnson squandered donor money. Only a fool would give him money a second time.”
Substitute Ron Paul for Johnson and that’s pretty much the way I feel. Even worse, I WAS stupid enough to do it in 2008 AND 2012!
Warren,
Perhaps IPR and LfA at some point should do a poll? One might want a modest number of questions, and something that gives you crosstabs.
I would suggest several Presidential questions:
Party stalwarts
Party stalwarts + former candidates (We may skip Bob and Wayne).
Party stalwarts + former candidates + “celebrity” candidates
I’ve included Johnson in the new poll. Primarily because people can’t stop whining about his exclusion from the previous poll. Here’s the link to the poll:
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/K8QVGCS
Johnson should be included in any polls. But maybe Ron Paul should be considered? If Rand doesn’t get the GOP nod Ron might consider the LP line. Dreaming I know.
Johnson squandered donor money. Only a fool would give him money a second time.
Having asked Mr Wendt about the list of names, the list includes everyone who has filed with the FEC and a certain number of others. That includes several of our more interesting — used broadly — candidates. I gather that Mr Wendt views Ventura, like Johnson, as having expressed a negative interest in running, and this time in his poll lists neither of them.
I have absolutely no intention to run for President in 2016. I am completely focused on winning the 2014 Florida gubernatorial election.
Phil Davison should have been included in this poll…
Regardless of what happens in 2016, I think Jesse Ventura will stop talking about running after it’s over. I think he really wants to run, but he’s realizing that he just doesn’t have the coalition he would need.
I’m not a libertarian, but I’d like to see Milnes get the nomination. Just for the fun of it.
I think RW has a hobo fetish.
Excluding Gov. Johnson, removing Gov. Ventura, and adding two more hobo candidates? This looks like a rigged game for Phillies…. crown him King of the Hobos I guess…
Jesse state in an interview that he won’t run with a party, and he’s been saying that he will run for president over the past decade. If he was going to, he would have done it already.
Jesse isn’t going to run.
Jesse wants to go the independent route and he does not want to do any work. At this stage in the game I think he just likes to talk about running. There’s not a snowballs chance in hell that volunteers will get him ballot access in all 50 states to run as an independent (a requirement he has stated on more than one occasion).
There’s no reason for him to be mentioned in a poll of potential LP candidates as of now.
Gary Johnson should have been included. How many people participated in this poll?
A noticeable absence is Gary Johnson.
Also, I don’t understand why Jesse Ventura will be removed from the new poll but why Robert Milnes and Kip Lee will stay on.
The following is the entirety from Mr. Lee’s “campaign website”:
Kip Lee for President Facbook Page
All financial systems including money will be abolished.
The Ashtar Command starship saucers will land on all streets. This will happen on January 20th, 2017. This will not occur sooner.
All items will be free including employment. This will have education. And training.
There will be no more prisons and jails.
I will be an honest president of the United States.
All items and food will be free.
I mean, c’mon. Why are joke/mentally ill candidates being included?