Sandy Sanders: Is there a smear campaign against Libertarian Robert Sarvis?

Robert Sarvis (right) and GOP opponent Ken Cuccinelli 

Posted on 28 October 2013. Tags: 

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I got this email from a group called Virginians for Life and Liberty:

Robert Sarvis has recently broken with Libertarians on key issues*

 

Recent interviews with Chuck Todd and Reason.com reveal:

Sarvis FAVORS higher taxes, including

  • higher gas taxes and
  • a new “miles-driven” tax and
  • opposing any tax cuts, including the Cuccinelli Tax Cut Plan 

Sarvis FAVORS expanding Obamacare 

  • Through massive Medicaid expansion in VA
  • Adding 400,000 new permanent enrollees to this social program
  • Price-tag to taxpayers: $3B per year.

 
Robert Sarvis:  “I’m not into the whole Austrian type, strongly libertarian economics, I like more mainstream economics and would have been happy to go elsewhere.”

* See http://jhpolitics.com/2013/10/virginia-ben-domenech-takes-sarvis-out-behind-the-woodshed/

Robert Sarvis:  self-described “moderate” (Oct 26 forum) 

SARVIS:  not very Libertarian at all

Cuccinelli is the only choice for Liberty-minded voters

That’s why Robert Dean and other Libertarian leaders are backing Ken Cuccinelli for Governor Nov 5th

Authorized by Russ Moulton.  Not authorized or paid for by any candidate or candidate’s committee.

I was going to ignore it – similar, almost identical items showed up on RedState, JHPolitics, and several other sites.

But this is too much.  Let’s start with Austrian economics:

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46 thoughts on “Sandy Sanders: Is there a smear campaign against Libertarian Robert Sarvis?

  1. Steve M

    Long answer.

    Given the divisions within the Republican Party, some of them realize that they are going to be the first of the two parties to split and give the Libertarians an opening. The fiscally responsible and civil libertarian Democrats could then join the Libertarian party leading to a breakup of the duopoly.

    So, Warren when the Libertarians become major party does this mean we can’t use IPR anymore?

  2. Thomas Knapp

    Nothing unusual here. In close races the GOP always tries to stampede libertarians into “not letting the Democrat win” with a mixture of slamming libertarians for being utopians and claiming to be libertarians themselves.

    When it doesn’t work, they whine for two years;.

    When it does work, they ignore libertarian concerns until the next close election.

  3. Steve M

    just to help the less literate here under stand Knapp’s response….

    The Republicans are panicking.

  4. George Phillies - LP Wins Again

    It’s from an antilibertarian group.

    Having said that “believe in Austrian economics” is rather like ‘believe in the heliocentric/geocentric solar system”. It’s a statement about the real world, not about human liberty. (The Republicans, of course, tend to be closer to ‘It’s flat, with turtles all the way down’.)

    The Republican party is committing suicide, and like a drowning nonswimmer is grabbing for anything in reach.

  5. Robert Capozzi

    What does “Austrian economics” have to do with a state race? IIRC, Austrianism deals mostly with business cycle theory and money and banking theory. Neither are state issues.

    At a state level, I’d want a L candidate to advocate smaller, fairer, respectful government, preferably as small as possible.

  6. Thomas Knapp

    RC,

    Well, Mises’s “calculation argument,” which militates against pretty much any central/government economic planning or regulation, is part of Austrian economics, and that would be relevant to state races in terms of state policy.

    Also, the election being for governor, it’s expected that the executive of a state within the federal system would use his bully pulpit to make recommendations regarding that federal system (as the national governors association and so forth have been known to do).

  7. Andy

    “Given the divisions within the Republican Party, some of them realize that they are going to be the first of the two parties to split and give the Libertarians an opening. The fiscally responsible and civil libertarian Democrats could then join the Libertarian party leading to a breakup of the duopoly.”

    While a few Republicans and Democrats may break away from those parties and join the Libertarian ranks, I don’t think that this is where the Libertarian Party is going to find most of its support. I think that the biggest potential support base for the Libertarian Party is with independents and non-voters.

  8. Bondurant

    Fiscally responsible Democrats exist?

    The GOP is in full on panic and attack mode. Look at what is happening right now in OH and AZ. It’s clear the GOP sees the pending writing on the wall but they won’t do down without dirty tricks and general douchebaggery.

  9. Andy

    “Look at what is happening right now in OH and AZ. ”

    Keep in mind that Democrats have done plenty to make it more difficult for minor party and independent candidates to get on the ballot themselves.

  10. J.D.

    I am not saying that the LP is on the verge of becoming a “major party” or that they are going to be the dominant party in any state soon but the fact of the matter is the Republican Party is on the verge of collapse. Its ideas and arguments are ancient and out of touch with social and economic reality. I can’t say where the former moderate Republicans will head to but they are leaving that party in droves. A smear campaign in a tight high-prfile race launched against a Libertarian does show that the Republicans can not compete with the Democrats anymore and are fighting to hold on to second place.

    The time has come for the dinosaur that is the Republican Party to breathe its last breath.

  11. Steven Wilson

    If this is a trend, then expect the courts to remove third parties from primaries and ballot access completely. Top two could be in play for the House prior to the midterm elections. It is my opinion that this is a fluke. Sarvis is one of the best candidates running under the LP I have ever seen. In a short time he was able to establish a brand equity for himself which could lend itself into more things.

    He can work a room. He can handle the media. Has solutions for specific problems/issues rather than a book club Libertarian. Has a support system in place. Utilizes social media in his marketing plan effectively.

    His family played a significant role in his status and role as a state wide candidate. Also, the Republican running the race is another nutball. Theses things, whether primary or secondary, are a factor in his overall success. To say that his success is just one thing belittles everything he has worked for.

    I would like to see him run a national campaign.

  12. Andy

    “but the fact of the matter is the Republican Party is on the verge of collapse.”

    If only this were true.

  13. Mark Axinn

    >So, Warren when the Libertarians become major party does this mean we can’t use IPR anymore?

    LOL!!!!

    As much as it would be a shame not to appear on IPR, would be worth it in those circumstances.

  14. George Phillies - LP Wins Again

    National Review, mouthpiece of the Christian extremist right, puts up more nonsense about how an antiabortionist girlkiller — someone who would leave out daughters to die of backalley abortions — is “libertarian”.

  15. langa

    Not surprisingly, most of the National Review article is garbage. However, the author does make one good point, when he writes:

    “Note that Sarvis wants the state to recognize gay marriages and not to get out of marriage completely. His is the progressive preference.”

    It’s pretty sad when right wing hacks like this guy apparently have a better understanding of the correct libertarian position on marriage than most members of the Libertarian Party do.

  16. Jake Porter

    If government is going to be involved in marriage contracts it must be fair about it. Gay marriage may not be a perfect libertarian solution, but it is better than we have now and decreases the power of the state to discriminate against Americans. In my opinion, that is pretty damn libertarian.

  17. DSZ

    It’s like saying government should give more companies tax subsidies, so that we can get closet to a tax cut.

  18. Robert Capozzi

    Langa: This guy apparently agrees with my [Langa’s] position on marriage, which I believe is the most consistent L opinion on the matter.

    me: As TK likes to say, “fixed that for ya.”

  19. Jake Porter

    I think it is more like saying government shouldn’t be giving tax breaks to any company, but if government is going to be giving tax breaks to one company it should give the same tax breaks to all businesses which is a lot better than having some people/businesses more equal than others.

  20. DSZ

    No, it’s not like that – this isn’t the early 20th century. I hate to break it to you but many people live in domestic partnerships and dont want to get married (either at the moment or ever). Supporting government benefits for only married, bigamous couples is a government endorsement of a religious practice and still discriminates against many. It’s still a very socially conservative position in that sense.

  21. Sarvis Watch

    Well, is it true Sarvis is for expanding Medicaid? If Sarvis is basically a non-corrupt Democrat, he should wind up “taking” more votes from McAuliffe than from Cooch-etc

  22. Jose C

    I am concerned. I heard talk show host Mark Lavin talk about Sarvis’ candidacy. He mentioned he is not a conservative (obviously – I agree with this) but that he is also not a Libertarian. He says on economic issues he is very wishi washi. Saris was asked in a campaign event what part of government would he cut and Sarvis would not say. Lavin also criticized him for his views on Hayek. Lavin says [free market] econimics is one of the fouundations of America and its founding. Sarvis should not run away from Hayek, Montigue, Jefferson, etc. Lavin says Sarvis does not speak about the economic free market foundations of our country. Isn’t this important?

    Sarvis seems to be focusing on social issues such as gay rights, imigration reform, and drug legalization as opposed to economic issues. His views on those issues as explained by Lavin are Libertarian. When Sarvis does talk about economic issues he seems not to want to discuss the Libertarian viewpoint.

    Lavin also mentioned Sarvis has said his candidacy on the Libertarian Party line is one of convience. Lavin mentioned when Bloomberg ran for mayor of New York he ran as a Republican only because the Democratic Party had many candidates. This reminds me of the various candidates for President we have had that once the election was over thay rushed to re-join the Republican Party. Ron paul comes to mind. Sarvis is in the general election whereas as a Democrat or Republican he would not be.

    On economic issues is Sarvis a Libertarian? If what Lavin says is true I would say no, he is not. I am very concerned about Sarvis’ candidacy. Should I be?

  23. Jake Porter

    Jose C,

    I don’t think you should be concerned. As someone else said, Sarvis is running for Governor not President of the Mises Institute and I have personally had try to tell me I am not libertarian enough and others tell me I am too libertarian. This cult like style has forced a lot of libertarians out of the party over the years over a few minor disagreements.

    I am looking over his economic issue positions on his website and I would say so far what I am seeing is very libertarian such as ending all subsidies. I think this is just a tactic by those on the far right who know they have lost and realize libertarians are far more popular than they are with many voters and want to take our voting base without actually giving us anything in return.

  24. Matt Cholko

    From my viewpoint here in VA, its seems that a couple of comments that Mr. Sarvis made have been blown way out of proportion. I don’t have any transcripts in front of me, so I can’t recall the exact statements. However, I know he said some less than great stuff in an interview on MSNBC several weeks back. Stuff about alternative taxes and medicare….I think he let the interviewer put words in his mouth.

    I consider myself a radical Libertarian. There are certainly some points where I disagree with Sarvis. However, he passes my personal test, and I will be voting for him without reservation on Tuesday.

    As near as I can tell, the Cuccinelli campaign and/or his supporters are behind most of this “he’s not libertarian stuff” in order to try to sway some votes to Cuccinelli. They’ve even brought Ron Paul to VA for this final weekend of campaigning, which makes it all seem nicely coordinated to me.

  25. Jake Porter

    Matt, I want to first of all say you all are doing a great job this year. Please keep up the great work. Your success is giving me motivation here in Iowa for our campaigns next year.

    Sarvis probably has a few positions that aren’t libertarian and we all make mistakes in interviews. It is a part of being human. Since the Republicans have no productive ideas of their own they want to sound a little libertarian at least on economics during the election and then govern like they have been for years, but the voters see past that and their days of winning elections are just about over. I expect we will see these tactics of attacking Libertarian candidates for not being libertarian enough to continue in many states next year.

  26. Jake Porter

    Of course, we are busy letting the Republicans pull our strings and watching us dance. They are taking the focus off of the positive Sarvis campaign and making us fight each other. The enemy is not in the Libertarian Party. The enemy is the Republican Party of bigotry, debt slavery, constant war, and monitoring your private phone conversations. That is the Republican Party and that is who we should be busy fighting not helping. With that record, I wouldn’t exactly call the GOP experts on what libertarianism actually is.

  27. George Phillies - LP Wins Again

    “Sarvis seems to be focusing on social issues such as gay rights, imigration reform, and drug legalization as opposed to economic issues.” Yes, he’s running on issues where the American people, especially young people, agree with us. He’s running on issues where the American people agree with us, opening them up to other parts of our message. He’s running on issues that make clear that we are not the Republican social reactionaries.

    He’s doing the right things, and we should be cheering him on.

  28. Sarvis Watch 2016

    The latest, active frontier, right now this month, in the eternal battle of Leviathan vs the individual, is Obamacare. Cuccinelli has been a leader in the anti-Obamacare fight, whereas Sarvis & McAuliffe both appear to be pro-Obamacare.

    For that reason, realpolitik-minded libertarians will, like the Pauls, ultimately break toward Cuccinelli.

    It is still possible that Sarvis will be able to secure an LP ballot line by attracting enough pro-Obamacare statists away from the corrupt Mcauliffe, however

  29. Jake Porter

    This doesn’t sound “pro-obamacare” to me, but I guess if a lie is repeated enough times someone will believe it. “I think the last thing we want to do is further federalize our health care policy,” Sarvis said. Source: Daily Press

  30. Jake Porter

    See by posing attacks as questions we can say any crazy untrue thing we want. For example: Is it true Robert Sarvis hates puppies and children? If so, he can compete with the other two candidates as to who is the most evil candidate running.

  31. Jill Pyeatt

    Says Bruce Majors on Facebook:
    “Because we are having so much trashing of Robert Sarvis and the Libertarian Party by Rand Paul, Ken Cuccinelli, the Virginia GOP and Ron Paul, I thought I’d share this. Also Sarvis is co author of three papers at the Marcatus Center on fiscal policy that are on line. I’ve posted all that and more on my blog, Insomniac Libertarian.”
    http://youtu.be/N5EmILGI85M

  32. Jill Pyeatt

    Agenda 21 is not a “conspiracy theory” (as per the article mentioned in the comment above). It’s an active program being implemented across the country.

  33. paulie

    Fiscally responsible Democrats exist?

    Yes. Plenty.

    The GOP is in full on panic and attack mode. Look at what is happening right now in OH and AZ. It’s clear the GOP sees the pending writing on the wall but they won’t do down without dirty tricks and general douchebaggery.

    Correct. And the funny thing is the LP is actually earning more votes from would be Democrats than would be Republicans, if anything!

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