Jim Hayden – Constitution Party
Jim Hayden has declared his candidacy for the Constitution Party’s 2016 Presidential nomination. From the front page of his campaign website:
I am the only Presidential Candidate with the combat training and actual combat experience to secure our borders and evict those living in this country illegally while engaging our Muslim Enemies and defeating them. I also know how to get our economy going again by reducing the size of the government and our taxes.
Mr. Hayden lists his qualifications as follows:
I am the only candidate with the combat training and actual combat experience to secure our borders and evict those individuals living in this country illegally without costing the American Taxpayers another TRILLION dollars.
I have the college education in Business Administration and the business experience to pull the economy out of this depression we are currently in.
I have 40 plus years of experience working with the United States Congress as a Veterans Rights Advocate and I have first hand experience on how the Congress works and how to convince the members of the Congress to do what is necessary and what is good for this great country of ours.
Edward A. Gardner, Jr. – Independent American Party
Mr. Gardner, aka “E.A.G,JR.”, is seeking the IAP presidential nomination. From his website:
hello, I am Edward A. Gardner, Jr.
I am from Up-State New York { North Tonawanda, NY.}I am an Independent American Party.
The Independent Pledge : Pledge to the Constitution:“I, Edward A. Gardner, Jr., do solemnly affirm that I will support and defend the Constitution for the United States against all enemies, foreign or domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will faithfully discharge the duties of citizenship, so help me God.”
Pledge to Promote Liberty:“Trusting in God, I, Edward A. Gardner, Jr., solemnly pledge my unequivocal support to the principles of The Declaration of Independence, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights; I commit to seek out and support only those individuals who are devoted to restoring and maintaining the sacred principles codified within these documents. Specifically, I commit to invite at least one honest and wise individual to run for an elected political office every election cycle, so help me God.”
Ken Cross – Reform Party
Kenneth Cross, the Reform Party’s 2012 vice presidential nominee, is seeking the party’s presidential nomination in 2016. From his campaign website:
Kenneth Cross – Presidential Candidate – FEC ID #C00446526
I have studied politics my entire lifetime and believe that now is the greatest window of opportunity for a third party candidate to win a presidential election in recent history. Neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party demonstrates any genuine interest in fiscal responsibility. Leadership in both the Republican and the Democratic parties caters to the extreme factions within their respective organizations. Neither party offers specific detailed solutions to most of our nations serious problems. Many citizens believe, as I do, that the best interest of the United States of America is served by taking measures to strengthen the middle class. The best way to do that would be to elect a president who is of the middle class. We should not be surprised that Presidential candidates who are millionaires support tax cuts that primarily benefit millionaires.
Respect for Congress and the Administration is at or near all time lows. This is largely because we essentially have a kick-back political process between politicians and lobbyists. The time has come to restore honor and integrity to national politics. We need campaign finance reform, term limits in congress, and fair and simple tax policy that would reduce the influence of lobbyists. I have developed a graduated flat tax approach to personal income tax that would result in eliminating the need to file a federal income tax form for most citizens.
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The prospect of relinquishing my privacy and subjecting my family and I to potential risk of harm concerns me. However, any increased risk that we might be exposed to pales in comparison to the risks that our military personnel are exposed to daily in their efforts to promote freedom and justice around the world. Consequently, I feel compelled to take action to address important issues that cry out for attention such as the peril that chronic deficit spending is putting our country’s future in.
I am running for President of the United States. Ideally, I will be elected president so as to straighten out the mess that current politicians have made of our national governance. But even if nothing more is accomplished then to draw attention to serious national problem areas, and to offer viable solutions for consideration, I will have helped my country by campaigning. I am available to deliver speeches followed by questions. I am also available for interviews or discussions. Please contact me if you are interested in a new and better approach to the governance of our nation.
Maybe he took some shrapnel to a sensitive portion of the frontal lobe.
So he has the “combat training” to end “illegal immigration,” but not the reading skill to notice that under the US Constitution there’s no such thing.
Why be mad at Trent? He said it’s not a done deal, didn’t say who it is, and got you a bunch of attention here and at Conservative Heritage Times. We rarely get this many views or comments on CP articles these days. I assumed all along that Trent was probably hyping this speculation and giving it more weight than it deserved – the political equivalent of so and so were seen holding hands blah blah blah, guess who it was, in grade school. And yes, I played along. No, Satan was not a serious suggestion, obviously.
I don’t even know where to begin – I assume almost all these names are tongue in cheek. Some are obviously sticking out tongues. There are several people interested in the nomination, some more than others. All are in need of vetting. I can give you an inside tip: it won’t be Alan West – he was booed from the stage the last time he tried to muscle his way in. And Trent has been scratched off the VP list, in permanent ink, for bringing this up.
More guesses, and a few more ruled out, at https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2015/01/might-the-constitution-party-attract-a-big-name-candidate-for-2016/
“A better education system—Get the government out of education and switch (at least temporarily) to a voucher system.”
Oh Mr. Saturn, your quote is enough to make me proverbially “but a gut” laughing. Vouchers are the latest means by which government is attempting to influence and control education. If you should doubt this just ask yourself how likely it would be for a student at a voucher education establishment would be to hear criticism of education vouchers. Pretty unlikely, no?
http://www.amazon.com/The-School-Revolution-Answer-Education/dp/1455577170
…when guilty men & women go free because of prejudice & superstition rather than simple lack of evidence, that’s a very serious problem.
Yes it is, but I don’t see how hate crime laws do anything to solve it. If the judge and/or jury is motivated by bigotry, how does simply increasing the penalty make it more likely that they will decide to convict. If anything, it might make it less likely, although I doubt it would have any significant effect.
The point of the criminal justice system is simply to punish wrongful behavior, regardless of the particular motivations for that behavior.
Bob Dornan and Bob Smith are both good guesses–but too old and, as someone hinted earlier, too far removed from their political height.
Corsi is a good guess, but I doubt he’ll ever run for office.
The CP has good reason to be excited about this candidate, but ballot access is absolutely the most important thing in 2016.
I live in Hostettler’s district and can tell you he is a joke. The only reason he was elected/re-elected was because of massive state/national party money coming to his aid and running the advertising (Origin of – “the Bloody Eighth”). He was always a horrible fundraiser and a standoffish candidate. If he was the CP nominee I could see him beating Goode’s vote total (turns out the true believers on the Baptist circuit) but his demeanor would surely hurt the CP brand.
I am going to guess Ben Swann, the journalist. My second guess is Cliven Bundy. Or maybe Jerome Corsi.
Jill,
That is a great article and I agree with the point it makes.
A better solution to the (hypothetical) problem of “hateful juries and judges” is . . .
A better education system—Get the government out of education and switch (at least temporarily) to a voucher system.
Both William and NF make good points. Here’s another article on this topic. This doesn’t really tie in with any third party specifically, so I can’t set up on article to talk about this. It’s a good topic, though, and will probably become more and more of an issue as time goes by.
http://www.americanbroadside.com/free-speech-threatened-by-government-and-terrorists-in-france/
“I’m much more concerned about people being found guilty of crimes they did not commit than making sure the jury convicts ‘the bad guy.’ ”
Well, that is the job of juries. I agree with the notion of “rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man be convicted”, but when guilty men & women go free because of prejudice & superstition rather than simple lack of evidence, that’s a very serious problem.
“The quote I was going for above was from (father of the aforementioned) Barry Goldwater, ‘you cannot legislate morality.;”
I agree.
“Hate crime laws do nothing more than increase punishment. They do not make ‘hateful juries and judges’ do the ‘right thing.'”
You may be right. Do you have a better solution? If so I’d happily get behind it.
“I’d probably vote for Goldwater (Jr.) over Johnson.” – William Saturn
Barry Goldwater Jr. is an interesting figure here in Arizona but he hasn’t inspired me lately.
I have to agree with William on this one. Crimes are crimes. Just because the perpetrator or the victim are different does not matter. Hate crime laws just expand government and are VERY unlibertarian.
I’m much more concerned about people being found guilty of crimes they did not commit than making sure the jury convicts “the bad guy.”
The quote I was going for above was from (father of the aforementioned) Barry Goldwater, “you cannot legislate morality.” Hate crime laws do nothing more than increase punishment. They do not make “hateful juries and judges” do the “right thing.”
I generally agree with Jed, actually, that there should be some protections for members of groups who are attacked solely because they are members of that group, but that certainly shouldn’t apply to policemen who have been hired by the people to perform certain tasks only.
Making it “hate speech” to harm or even talk disrespectfully to a policeman would simply be another way to bypass accountability for their abuses of power.
“I have not seen that. I oppose any kind of “hate crime” legislation. Crime is crime. People should not be punished extra because they hate a certain class of people. Government cannot legislate away hate.”
What about cases where people have gotten away with crimes because of racist, homophobic, or generally hateful juries & judges? Ever heard of the “gay panic” defense? Hate crime laws exist to make it clear that race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. is NOT a defense for murder & other crimes.
I hope it is Bob Smith
Jill,
I have not seen that. I oppose any kind of “hate crime” legislation. Crime is crime. People should not be punished extra because they hate a certain class of people. Government cannot legislate away hate.
Trent,
Please tell us you’re not talking about Bob Smith.
Bob Smith is a boring choice, and very inconsistent, changing his mind about running and/or his party frequently. They would be better off with Castle, but would indeed defer to Smith…if he doesn’t burn them again.
Heard that one of the reasons that Bob Smith declined running under the CP banner in 2000 was because of the anti-Catholic hostility present in the party back then; their Illinois affiliate even had a prohibition on Catholics becoming party officers at the time.
Of course that theocratic element was a lot more influential in the party back then, and it certainly scared away potential big-name and especially Catholic candidates, like Bob.
Joe Arpaio/Ken Ham 2016!
Bob Smith is supposed to be a big deal? He sought their nomination in 2000 then dropped out. That’s not exciting. My next guess was going to be Hulk Hogan. He is, after all, a real American who fights for the rights of every man except immigrants…I think that’s how the song goes. If you hurt my friends then you hurt my pride.
Too young, and they haven’t been courting Darren Wilson for years because almost no one had herd of him. It’s Bob Smith. Another dumb move..
Darren Wilson?
By the way, William, have you seen this?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/01/05/police-union-wants-killing-cops-treated-as-hate-crime/
I’ve met Bob Smith down here in FL. Very nice guy and I had a beer with him.
By process of elimination it has to be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Smith_(American_politician)
He’s very unreliable and changes his mind/party/intentions constantly.
That would a great candidate; better than Gary Johnson imho. I’d probably vote for Goldwater over Johnson.
The CP mystery nominee is… (envelope please…) Barry Goldwater, Jr.!
Either of the Bobs would have been good candidates, in 1996! Smith has severely damaged his political brand with big losses in New Hampshire and Florida. And Dornan is 81 years old.
Shoot folks, of course the Constitution Party mystery nominee is going to be the secret love child of Lyn Nofziger and Ann Coulter. It’s obvious isn’t it?
Bob Smith?
Bob Dornan?
Ralph Nader completely changes his beliefs? Geoff Neale? Reagan’s son?
William Shatner? Rush Limbaugh? Larry Elder? Jeff Frazee?
Ann Coulter? She’s actually sought small party nominations before.
Leonard Nimoy? David Hasselhoff? Dennis Hof?
Is it someone we’ve heard of or is it some run-of-the-mill Representative?
Nope.
I should reiterate: this is not a done deal. But, it seems likely.
Dick Armey? Pat Buchanan? Glenn Beck? Alex Jones? Ron Paul? Michele Bachmann? Jim DeMint? Sarah Palin? Rick Santorum?
I’m grasping at straws here lol.
Not Ben Carson. Lots of good guesses here–John Hostettler is a really good one. But still not on target. Cynthia Davis should be the VP if the candidate cannot convince someone more prestigious.
Ben Carson?
Hmmm, it’s been over 30 comments on this CP-related article and yet Closet Don Grundmann has yet to make an appearance screaming for my head.
Even if it isn’t Castle, I highly doubt that this potential candidate could surpass Goode’s 2012 vote total- unless the CP went through a complete overhaul in their bylaws, platform, even the national name of their party, and especially got back on the ballot in California, as well as land on 40+ state ballots, next year.
But that is quite unlikely, and with the changing demographics and shifting societal attitudes- the CP’s views and platform will be even less attractive in 2016 then it was in 2012.
Keg party at mARS’ house in June 2016!
I’d like you to win too mARS, though I have considerably less to gain from it.
I bet a keg three years ago that the CP ticket in 2016 will be Castle/Cynthia Davis. I really want that keg.
No amount of military experiences will keep such a boneheaded move from wrecking the whole national and international economy, to the tune of a lot more than a TRILLION dollars. See http://openborders.info/ for tons of information about why that is.
As for the actual military operation of rounding up and deporting millions of people, how does his military training make that cheap? Is he planning to do that himself, alone, or something?
Joe Arpaio, the Maricopa County Sheriff, or his staff love toying with all too inept mainstream media about his possible runs for Governor of Arizona or other offices. I am certain his campaign staff see another $500 of contributions each time his name hits Google News. I am certain the taxpayers of Maricopa County would save $1 million in wrongful death settlements per year if he were to be elected to another jurisdiction.
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/2012/10/joe_arpaios_victim_deborah_bra.php
Hostettler would be great, but I wish he would run in the GOP primary so Rand would have a challenger to represent non-interventionism.
“Does that kind of crap fly with the CP?”
The CP is definitely anti-amnesty. Any position in favor of enforcing the law as is and against amnesty is by default in favor of “evicting” those who are currently here illegally. The issue is whether you would actively “round them up” as is often the charge, or have them leave by attrition or in the normal; course of law enforcement. So that position is definitely in line with the CP.
As for national security, the first part of his statement is fine. He talks about the need for Congress to actually declare war and calls on us to withdraw from NATO and the UN. That is definitely up the CP’s alley. As for our Muslim enemies and targeted attacks, I doubt that would fly.
From the quote listed here, Ken Cross looks good.
Trent, if you can’t say the name on here, could you e-mail me? I won’t report it. I’m just curious to know.
Exactly.
Hostettler would be a Goode candidate. 😉
JZ
Damn, you got it at the same time LOL. What other names? They are not really big names … Hostettler is one of them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hostettler
As with the others mentioned, I still think they would be better off with Castle, but they won’t see it that way.
Maybe they’ll finally give Alan Keyes a shot, that way perhaps they could be back on the ballot in California.
Fascinating. There was a story about Mike Huckabee leaving the GOP, so that’s why he was my first guess. If it’s not Arpaio, Huckabee, Moore, or Tancredo, then who? Surely not Alan Keyes, they already crossed that bridge, and then blew it up. I just don’t know of any other big names they’ve been flirting with.
It is not Huckabee, who will almost certainly run as a GOPer or not run at all.
Tancredo and Moore are MUCH bigger names than Castle, who is essentially just an activist and lawyer with no national (or even state-level) name recognition.
There’s some good guesses there, but none of them are on target. As for it being “in the bag”–it isnt. It isnt a done deal yet. But it looks highly likely.
He’s a big name on the religious right nationally, and probably would be a slam dunk for their nomination if he agreed to seek it. I agree it would be a mistake though, and I don’t think it will work out for them any better than Goode did, but I think they would fall for the same trap again if given the chance. Castle would be better for them but they probably won’t realize it, much as in 2012.
Maybe in Alabama. I remember when I heard him talked about in ’12 I was like ‘who!?’. After Googling, I guess I remember the ten commandments case but he’s still not a big name at all outside the South. If they went with him over Castle, it would be a mistake, and I doubt he would be a slam dunk for the nomination at the convention.
Moore is probably a bigger name than Castle, LOL. Tancredo dissed the CP and alt parties in general after he went back to the Republicans, but they may be gluttons for punishment enough to overlook that. Arpaio is another scumbag they have they been bootlicking up to.
Actually, now that I think of it the most likely guess is Tom Tancredo. Roy Moore’s name has been mentioned for a few years but I don’t see him as a bigger name than Castle.
Could it be….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62Qfbrc1jdo
“The CP is going to get a bigger name they’ve been flirting with for a couple years now.”
My guess is Mike Huckabee.
Who do you think they’ll get and what makes you think it’s in the bag?
“if you want to seek the CP’s nomination for President when in fact Darrell Castle has already been preselected; don’t trust anyone in the party”
Darrell Castle won’t be the nominee. The CP is going to get a bigger name they’ve been flirting with for a couple years now.
“Does that kind of crap fly with the CP?”
I see nothing in either statement that conflicts with the platform & goals of the CP. It should be noted that, according to Politics1, Mr. Hayden is also running as a Republican.
“Evict” millions of people? Defeat our Muslim Enemies? Jim Hayden sounds like a real dumbass.
Does that kind of crap fly with the CP?
Didn’t know that about the CP. If so, that would be a step up from Virgil Goode.
Word of advice for Jim Hayden- if you want to seek the CP’s nomination for President when in fact Darrell Castle has already been preselected; don’t trust anyone in the party, and expect to get thrown under the bus.
“I am the only candidate with the combat training and actual combat experience to secure our borders and evict those individuals living in this country illegally without costing the American Taxpayers another TRILLION dollars.”
What, himself, physically? LOL!
The first two websites are really “world class.” I haven’t got to the last one yet. ROFLMAO!