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Livestream for Day 3, Libertarian National Convention July 3, 2018


  1. Seebeck Seebeck July 10, 2018

    It may also be possible to do a mass email/snail mail vote of all of the delegates. That is keeping within the spirit of the Bylaws if not the letter. Roberts does support such a thing, but the LP never should have gotten to this point in the first place.

    Of course, that raises the question, what if that is done and still 5 to 7 JC candidates do not receive a majority? Then what?

    The fundamental problem here is that while trying to define a definitive majority for election, the Bylaws throw out the baby with the bathwater in that they do not account for the case of no majority and no time. That needs to be addressed both by ensuring the time is there to do it right, and to make certain that it being done right means a conclusion of an elected JC in such a manner than minimizes, or even better, eliminates conflicts of interests.

  2. Seebeck Seebeck July 9, 2018

    I recognize that they were pressed for time, but the final votes and the parliamentary foozball that was going on there was simply atrocious and way out of line, and now the LP has a mess that it cannot clean up until 2022, save one way out.

    Yes, the delegates did vote to suspend the rules to take the Top 5 for LNC. HOWEVER, the Chair stretched his Liberty to direct traffic pas the breaking point to arrive at a conclusion that was not in the best interests of the convention. That is highly questionable at best.

    Furthermore, since NO Judicial Committee candidate received a majority and the Rules were NOT suspended to take the top seven JC candidates in a manner similar to the LNC, the JC is NOT elected, and the LP does not have a constituted JC. Nor can the top seven litigate the issue as it would be a conflict of interest, and the previous JC cannot decide it because they are out of office as their term ended. The LNC cannot appoint the JC either, because that power is not explicitly granted to them in the Bylaws, and trying to construe Article 7, Section 1, Clause 1 to apply would produce a conflict of interest because the JC reviews LNC decisions.

    Because the convention passed a Bylaws change making the JC a 4-year term, effectively there is no JC for the next 4 years, and the ability of the membership so appeal bad decisions of the LNC has been SILENCED.

    Welcome to the fustercluck.

    I mentioned one way out. The way out of the mess is to either call a special convention, or simply take it up in 2020 and pray for no controversial decisions by the LNC before then, to temporarily amend the Bylaws to revert this convention’s Proposal I back to its prior state, elect a JC correctly, then repass Proposal I. 5 of 7 JC members would need a majority and if needed, the other 2 can be appointed per the Bylaws by that JC.

    The other way is to fix this screwed-up voting system.

  3. paulie paulie July 4, 2018

    I’m pretty easy to locate, usually in the Alabama delegation. Next time you’re at an event where you know or think I may be hit me at 205-534-1622 or via facecrack messenger or email (facecrack linked to my name here, all contact info kept current at IPR about page) and I will inform you of my exact whereabouts. Please don’t be the po pos or a process server. 🙂

  4. Sunshine Batman Sunshine Batman July 4, 2018

    #LNC2018 after action report.

    Made contact with Knapp and Daryl Perry and 2 other IPR operatives whom I can’t remember.

    Failed to locate Mr. Paulie Cannoli.

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