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LNC Chair Nicholas Sarwark talks about State of the Union on RT TV

Via LP blog:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ruz4c0vXgUk&feature=youtu.be

Nicholas J. Sarwark, Chair of the Libertarian National Committee, responded to questions on RT TV after President Barack Obama’s State of the Union address Tuesday night.

“The Libertarian Party agrees with [the president] on a few points. We agree with him that we have to show more leadership by finishing the job of closing Guantanamo, we agree with the opening of relations with Cuba.”

“Where we disagree is this idea that we can again try and project military force around the world…”

“The President has also a number of proposals that expand the use of government, that expand the spending of tax dollars, that create subsidies — and we fundamentally disagree with that. We believe that the way that you make education more affordable is you let the free market work.”

Watch the interview here and read an article about the interview here

36 Comments

  1. NewFederalist January 23, 2015

    “It’s Estonia or bust. I have my reasons.”

    Would it have anything to do with offering Prince Edward the throne and creating a constitutional monarchy if he would accept? 🙂

  2. Robert Capozzi January 23, 2015

    GC, BS is iirc anti-party and anti-electoral political activities. I think he is a Konkinite/agorist type.

    I got the vibe he is one angry dude. He’s only one of two who’ve un-friended me on Facebook. I don’t think he liked having his premises challenged, was my impression.

  3. Robert Capozzi January 23, 2015

    mp, well, alrighty, then. I stand corrected!

  4. Martin Passoli January 23, 2015

    Grundmann is a theoretical asymptotic homosexual, and some of his very best friends are recovering homosexuals. He has no wife, ex-wife, kids, girlfriend, or ex-girlfriends that anyone knows of, lives in the San Francisco area with his elderly mother, and does chiropractic body work for a living. He doesn’t hate homosexuals, he is trying to share God’s love with them. I don’t know why anyone would think he has anything personal or hateful against gay people.

  5. Robert Capozzi January 23, 2015

    mp, that’s SO unfair! I don’t hate anarchists…not at all. I’m a theoretical asymptotic anarchist myself, and some of my best friends are anarchists. I do find it to be sloppy thinking, but it’s certainly nothing personal, unlike G and gays, which feels pretty personal and hateful.

  6. Martin Passoli January 23, 2015

    Some more so than others.

    Capozzi:anarchists::Grandmann:homosexuals

  7. Robert Capozzi January 23, 2015

    pf, true of everyone always, actually.

  8. paulie January 23, 2015

    I don’t think I’m obsessed per se, but I do find it all quite fascinating.

    You may not realize how obsessed your fascination makes you seem.

  9. Robert Capozzi January 23, 2015

    L, yes, you do try to talk about other things, but what I am illuminating is how the NAPsolutist come-from often distorts your more here-and-now views. Language needs to be twisted to accommodate from the anarchist possibility, starting at least with the “governments, when instituted” language in the SoP.

    I don’t think I’m obsessed per se, but I do find it all quite fascinating.

  10. langa January 23, 2015

    If only our black-flag-waving friends took that counsel to heart! They strike me as simply fixed on being not “of the world.” Perhaps they feel safe snuggled in their construct, with clean hands and pure minds, never needing to engage the world as it is.

    Actually, many of us black flag types frequently try to talk about other stuff, but there’s this guy that always comes along and tries to bait us into arguments about the illegitimacy of the state.

    He’s really rather obsessed with it.

  11. langa January 23, 2015

    Good job, Nick. You have a rather Zen-like presence, which nicely contradicts the frequent attempts to portray libertarians as a bunch of crazy maniacs.

  12. Joshua Katz January 22, 2015

    I thought filibustering was a Senate thing, not a Press Secretary thing. But yeah, I can see myself in the Josh Ernest role – same first name and everything. I’d dig that.

  13. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    I admire a man who knows what he wants.

  14. paulie January 22, 2015

    It’s Estonia or bust. I have my reasons.

  15. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    Katz gets Press Secretary for his ability to filibuster.

    Passoli would be curator of the WH screening room. The Sarwark family never goes down there for obvious reasons.

    Frankel could get Ambassador to Antigua if he asked and dreamed just a little bigger, darling!

  16. Martin Passoli January 22, 2015

    Head of human resources for White House interns. I think that has interesting possibilities.

  17. Joshua Katz January 22, 2015

    What do I get in the Sarwark White House? I’m hoping for Chief of Staff, but there’s a few other jobs I’d like. In 3 years, I’d like AG or a SCOTUS appointment.

  18. paulie January 22, 2015

    Afraid? I’m not afraid. It’s the level of responsibility, pressure and diplomatic immunity that might suit me at this juncture in my life.

  19. paulie January 22, 2015

    I’ll settle for Deputy Ambassador to Estonia.

  20. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    PF, sadly, you are not constitutionally eligible to be NS’s running mate! 😉

    Director of Communications in the Sarwark White House, perhaps. Given your fluidity with Ebonics and urban slang, perhaps HUD Secretary…until it’s abolished.

  21. paulie January 22, 2015

    I think plumbline is still understood in these parts if you prefer that term.

    I’m a fossil, I guess, still somewhat reeling from the cultish insanity of the LM’s earlier days and the terms then used.

    Maybe just a little 🙂


    I’m an old school fool with a new school style
    Tried and true and guaranteed to make you go wild

    -Blaze

  22. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    NS, ever gentlemanly. Perhaps 2020, then!

    I just refuse to use “radical,” since I don’t find NAPsolutism to be radical at all. Maybe I’ll use “purist,” although, as you say, all labels have downsides. It seems to concede that there actually IS such a thing as “pure” L-ism.

    NAPsolutist dogma seems more accurate, although dogma is a bit pejorative these days.

    Ah, rhetoric! So exasperating sometimes….

  23. Nicholas Sarwark January 22, 2015

    I am already 35, though I consider it unseemly and inappropriate for a sitting LNC Chair to seek the Presidential nomination.

    Does plumbline work on the current L street?

    I think “purist” or “radical” are the current terms of art, or their opposite, “statist.”

    The problem with all of these shorthand terms is that, like “fascist,” they both say more and less than they ought to. “Fascist” long ago stopped meaning much more than “asshole.”

  24. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    pf, glad we agree. NS from president! 😉 Is he 35 by ’16?

    I’m a fossil, I guess, still somewhat reeling from the cultish insanity of the LM’s earlier days and the terms then used.

    Does plumbline work on the current L street?

  25. paulie January 22, 2015

    But, if you were NS’s handler, in the minutes before the interview, would you have counseled him to emphatically make the point that sanctions are acts of war, or would you have counseled him to answer as he did?

    I think Nick did a great job here.

    And you may consider me to be one of your black flag waving friends who would not suggest that one is not allowed to acknowledge the existence of states and the relative merits of the policies they have to choose from.

    KL (“kool [or oK], (talk to you) later” in chatspeak, per wikipedia).

  26. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    NS, wonderful! If only our black-flag-waving friends took that counsel to heart! They strike me as simply fixed on being not “of the world.” Perhaps they feel safe snuggled in their construct, with clean hands and pure minds, never needing to engage the world as it is.

    Kind of a nice existence, in a way….

  27. Nicholas Sarwark January 22, 2015

    Fun trivia fact: The pale blue book immediately behind my left ear is “Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays” by Murray N. Rothbard.

    In any event, I doubt even our black flag waving friends would suggest that one is not allowed to acknowledge the existence of states and the relative merits of the policies they have to choose from. For those familiar with Christian teaching, you may recognize the concept that one can be engaged in the world without being of the world.

  28. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    perhaps “plumbline” is more current….

  29. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    KL = Korrect Line, sorry. The term may no longer be used.

  30. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    pf, absolutely, the media doesn’t allow for making each and every point. I take that into consideration when assigning my A/A+!

    But, if you were NS’s handler, in the minutes before the interview, would you have counseled him to emphatically make the point that sanctions are acts of war, or would you have counseled him to answer as he did?

    I found his answer well-framed and -measured, fyi.

    And is diplomacy KL, or not? I wouldn’t think so, since that necessarily involves States, which are inherently aggressive.

    (Yes, you could say that insurance companies can be “diplomatic” I s’pose, but I think the term in this context implies existence of States.)

    Just curious….

  31. paulie January 22, 2015

    And I don’t recall whether MNR ever praised the diplomatic process. Is that the KL?

    Too many acronyms. I was following you up until the last one, but I don’t know what KL stands for. Couldn’t be Lesiak, and it doesn’t sound like it would be Kuala Lumpur, kiloliter, Kvenna Listin (Women’s List, a political party in Iceland), or Konzentrationslager (concentration camp).

    Perhaps Kullback–Leibler divergence, a measure of the difference between two probability distributions?

  32. paulie January 22, 2015

    I wonder if Rothbardians and others find this disappointing in that NS I believe didn’t make their point that sanctions are acts of war.

    It’s called siege, which is a battle tactic going back to time immemorial. And there’s only so much a person can say in an interview of this length. I’e had much longer interviews where I forgot to make some points or didn’t get to them. So what?

  33. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    I wonder if Rothbardians and others find this disappointing in that NS I believe didn’t make their point that sanctions are acts of war. And I don’t recall whether MNR ever praised the diplomatic process. Is that the KL?

  34. Robert Capozzi January 22, 2015

    A/A+. NS is at his best when he speaks. If GJ gets the nomination, he should hire NS as his speech coach.

    He comes across as highly reasonable, and his spoken words here ARE highly reasonable. Might be a bit too lawyerly and dispassionate. But we remember that McLuhan said TV is a cool medium.

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