74% to 26%: Florida Libertarians reject Invictus, nominate Stanton for Senate in Aug. 30 primary

Results from the Orlando Sentinel

Results from the Orlando Sentinel

Paul Stanton has handily defeated controversial candidate Augustus Invictus for the Libertarian nomination for U.S. Senate in Florida; with preliminary results showing a margin of almost fifty points (73.6% to 26.4%).

 

26 thoughts on “74% to 26%: Florida Libertarians reject Invictus, nominate Stanton for Senate in Aug. 30 primary

  1. Thomas L. Knapp

    I’ll be interested to see how turnout of registered Libertarians for the primary compared to the major parties. Looks like LP turnout was about 20%, give or take.

  2. George Whitfield

    Good news. And it was a pleasant experience voting in my first Libertarian Primary election. I also heard that many LP members were near the polls campaigning for Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party.

  3. Shivany Lane

    Was it the goat sacrifice and drinking it’s blood that was the final straw? NPR even carried that story. This is exactly why people think Libertarians are kooky.

  4. dL

    “Was it the goat sacrifice and drinking it’s blood that was the final straw? NPR even carried that story. This is exactly why people think Libertarians are kooky.”

    The proportion of libertarians doing kooky stuff is no greater or no less than anyone else. I mean the Repubs are running Trump for god’s sake. Clinton’s closest advisor’s husband just got busted again for texting delfies.

  5. Shivany Lane

    OK let me rephrase that. Richard Weiner showed his weiner. That is almost cliche. Do you know how many “dick pics” I get when someone on a chat room finds out I am a girl?

    Trump may be batshit crazy but he is mainstream batshit crazy.
    Clinton may seem like a war pig to all you AC/DC fans but she cleans up nice and atends a normal church.

    Maybe what I should have said is that Libertarians, and other third parties, tend to let their freak flag fly proudly.

    Every year some of the most powerful men in the worl come to my neighborhood and frolic in the forest doing god knows what with God knows who. All we know is that women are not allowed and if you are caught trying to sneak up on them to try and figure out what in the hell they are doing in Bohemian Grove, you are arrested for trespassing and pretty much will chill in a cell until their frolicking is owver and they are safe at home.

    There are rumors, but no one, and I mean NO ONE, talks about it. Maybe they drink goats blood, maybe they sacrifice virgins? Who knows. However they don’t stand up at a rally and say, yeah I’m cooler than my opponent because I sacrificed a goat and drank it’s blood. What has he done lately?

    Do you feel me here? I find our party fun and refreshing. Not everyone thinks that wearing a boot on your head is a political statement. I can’t believe that the pearl clutchers got all bent out of shape when James Weeks stripped when our Presidential Nominee looks stoned all the time. And sometimes he even acts it.

    He spends a small fortune on “Campaign advisers” and no one has the balls to tell him that maybe he should at least act like he has some libertarian ideals, except the legalization of pot. Notice how he never mentions any other drugs? I want my codeine to be available over the counter like it is in almost every other civilized country, like Canada. i have to count my pills and be a good little girl to make sure i don’t take too many even if i am doubled over in pain because it’s a controlled substance. No one in the United States should ever have to suffer physical pain. If they can’t figure out what they did to cause my pain, then let me take my pills so i can function. Codeine comes packed with Tylenol which kills your liver in high doses so i can’t take too much anyway. Codeine does not pass the blood/brain barrier and therefore is not like other opiates. The body metabolizes it to Morphine which your body flushes out in about 3 hours.

    I have told my doctor this and still I get low and controlled dosages. Insane. So what is Gary Johnson’s positiopn on anything but his precious bud?

  6. Starchild

    Shivany – I didn’t realize you were in the Bay Area. Do we know each other? You have some insightful posts – we should chat sometime! You can reach me at (415) 625-FREE.

  7. Starchild

    On the topic at hand, I’d like to say that after briefly reviewing Paul Stanton’s website, I am pleased by these results – the support of Steve Scheetz, who I respect, for Augustus Invictus notwithstanding.

    Sacrificing a goat and drinking its blood isn’t a deal breaker for me – as a vegetarian I consider it more or less on the level of eating McDonalds burgers or buying packaged meat at the supermarket – but some of the stuff I read about Invictus in past IPR threads led me to believe he might not necessarily be the best person to represent the Libertarian Party to the public.

    Meanwhile Paul, by contrast, has some truly excellent takes on the issues – in fact perhaps some of the best messaging I’ve seen from any Libertarian candidate. He has my enthusiastic support, and I hope he really socks it to the establishment in the general election!

  8. Andy

    Shivany Lane
    August 31, 2016 at 01:29 “Clinton may seem like a war pig to all you AC/DC fans but she cleans up nice and atends a normal church.”

    You probably mean Black Sabbath.

  9. Thomas L. Knapp

    I doubt that the goat blood thing HELPED Invictus, but likelihood is that of the 4,000 or so Libertarian primary voters, maybe — MAYBE — as many as one in ten had the slightest idea who either of the candidates are.

    They looked at two names on the ballot. One name sounded weird, the other didn’t. More of them chose the non-weird name because it’s non-weird, than chose the weird name either because it’s weird or in spite of it being weird. And that is almost certainly what decided the election.

    In order to turn weird branding into a strong net positive, the brand has to get a lot more attention than Invictus was able to get. Not for lack of effort, by the way. He is obviously not a lazy man.

  10. Sean Scallon

    Hopefully Invictus will be the last crazy using the LP ballot line as a way of letting their “freak flag fly”. Enough is enough. When a major political party is potentially imploding and there’s a real chance for the LP to move up to major status, the last thing it needs is to have candidates who see politics as performance art. Thankfully LP voters in Florida were able to do what feckless state party leadership could not or would not do.

  11. Krzysztof Lesiak

    @Thomas L. Knapp 5:12

    I believe Thomas is dead right with his analysis. The same thing can be said about any party’s primary, too. I was the campaign manager for David Earl Williams III for five months when he first announced his candidacy for Congress in 2014. I continued to be heavily involved in the campaign in a different role, later.

    David is a libertarian Ron Paul candidate – in the 2014 GOP primary he received 47.6%, 14,158 votes. His opponent had no campaign website, no fundraising, no social media at all – basically, all she had was a Daily Herald candidate interview that David attended, too. In that interview she said some crazy things. Everyone was shocked by the result. The Young Turks even did a video about the primary results:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRZmMhFEDUs

    David is now running as a write-in for the same district and may seek the LP nomination for statewide office in 2018.

    Anyway, back to the topic of the article, I am very saddened by the results. Now let’s look at a libertarian Republican who ran in Florida for Congress and was heavily promoted by Justin Amash (courtesy Politico):

    R. Bydlak
    7.7%
    7,689

    So Mrs. Bydlak did not do well at all. This reinforces the myth of the effictivicy of running as a libertarian Republican for at least federal office. Thomas Massie and Justin Amash were exceptions to the rule, and the only ones so far. What does this have to do with Augustus? He earned a percentage three times as high – yes, he wasn’t running in a 8 candidate race like Mrs. Bydlak, but nonetheless, I use it as a comparison.

    I’d like to see Augustus continue to write, move forward with a book, for example, and maybe even launch his own radio show. He is an inspiration figure, and the following that he has created among people (including me of course) will continue after the election. My hat is off to ASI. I look forward to his upcoming projects.

  12. Andy Craig Post author

    There were only 4,000 voters; all of them registered Libertarians. Given how much attention this had gotten in both the media and LP circles, 10% strikes me as an unreasonably low estimate of how many voters had some inkling of who Invictus was. “Weird names” can cut both ways, too.

    Either way, hopefully he will crawl back under whatever rock he came from, and leave the LP alone. If you want one last laugh from this trainwreck; check out his “concession” speech on YouTube. It’s as mean-spirited and unhinged as everybody has come to expect from him.

    Paul Stanton could drop out of the race and stop campaigning tomorrow, and he still will have done every Libertarian in the country a great service.

  13. dL

    “OK let me rephrase that. Richard Weiner showed his weiner. That is almost cliche. Do you know how many “dick pics” I get when someone on a chat room finds out I am a girl?”

    Dudes being creeps is one of the worst male traits. Not all males exhibit that trait, however. In terms of a mating trait, I can’t think of anything worse as a tactic.

    “Trump may be batshit crazy but he is mainstream batshit crazy.”

    Mainstream batshit crazy is criminal/war criminal. Far worse…Indeed, I don’t consider “libertarian batshit” to even be “bad.”

    “Do you feel me here? I find our party fun and refreshing. Not everyone thinks that wearing a boot on your head is a political statement. I can’t believe that the pearl clutchers got all bent out of shape when James Weeks stripped when our Presidential Nominee looks stoned all the time. And sometimes he even acts it.”

    Full agreement. I could care less about what offends mainstream media sensibility.

    “He spends a small fortune on “Campaign advisers” and no one has the balls to tell him that maybe he should at least act like he has some libertarian ideals, except the legalization of pot. ”

    Full agreement.

    “If they can’t figure out what they did to cause my pain, then let me take my pills so i can function.”

    Darknet. If past history is any indication, Weld’s TeamGov would launch a major crack down on it…at the very least, continue the status quo. TeamGov is not a friend of liberty.

  14. Sean Scallon

    “This reinforces the myth of the effictivicy of running as a libertarian Republican for at least federal office”

    No, it reinforces the truth that a majority of the GOP will have nothing to do with libertarians as Mrs. Bydlak and Rand Paul found out the hard way.

  15. dL

    “When a major political party is potentially imploding and there’s a real chance for the LP to move up to major status.”

    The GOP is not imploding and the LP is not on the verge of major party status. Unscientific, respectability politics wishful thinking mumbo jumbo, akin to chirping that a scientist need only look credible and plaster his/her wall with “respectable degrees” to repeal the law of gravity. There hasn’t been a political party party realignment in the US since the civil war. And you would need a major,major polarizing issue like slavery to achieve it in our time. While not likely, the only nonzero chance of political realignment around a LP is that you double-down on the security state, the drug war, not compromise. Mainstream credibility has nothing to with anything. The science of political science.

    http://knappster.blogspot.com/2016/08/another-conversation-starter.html#comment-2850559581

  16. Shivany Lane

    Andy
    August 31, 2016 at 02:51

    You probably mean Black Sabbath.

    Oh my yes, forgive me. AC/DC is Iron Man and Black Sabbath is war pigs. I think I was high on my Tylenol with codeine at the time, so forgive me.

  17. Shivany Lane

    Guess I won’t be getting that job at the music store making minimum wage. And i was so hopeful that at least they would hire me since no ojne else will.

  18. Tony From Long Island

    ” . . . Fine, I flunk ancient music… ”

    Ancient music = Johan Sebastian Bach

    Relatively recent music = Sebastian Bach! (Skid Row)

    You make many people feel very old when you consider Black Sabbath to be “ancient!” 🙂

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