Editor’s Note: This article had some unneccesary skewing, it was so obviously biased that I could not even mark it as an editorial. If Paulie or VTV would like to rewrite the post as an unbiased news article, that is permissible.
Was a fierce Independent because of statements made in George Washington's farewell address about how the party system would damage the nation. (He was right). Became interested in the Libertarian party because of Ron Paul. I helped get Mike Gravel into the LP, and joined the party with him. And contrary to what people have said, we are not going anywhere. We are in the Libertarian party from now on. Get used to it.
Are you coming to AZ Paulie?
It’s one of my top two choices for March.
Don’t thank me. I will NOT be broadcasting. I might be able to help with access if it’s an issue. I’ll probably send out a fair number of tweets
However many or few it is, it helps the cause.
Are you coming to AZ Paulie?
Mega-thanks to Rocky and Susan!
Don’t thank me. I will NOT be broadcasting. I might be able to help with access if it’s an issue. I’ll probably send out a fair number of tweets (twitter.com/susanhogarth) but don’t count on me for full or objective coverage. I’ll also have my knitting at hand, so I may be pretty slack even on the tweets during the … hmmm, how-to-say… less exciting bits.
Thanks CT
Paulie, congratulations on going on the world. May all Catholic Trotskyist blessings be upon you for a successful trip.
I am certainly interested in the Bboston Tea Party, as that party was founded at about the same time as the Boston Tea Party. I expect the BTP to split into dozens of different tiny groups, just like the dozens of little Trotskyist parties that split from the Socialist Workers Party, which are deemed not to be relevant here.
Latest BTP News update
News
By: planetaryjim
New news at the top 24 February 2009 Nothing grows like controversy. The Boston Tea Party’s largest Facebook group was created by then vice-chair Todd Andrew Barnett in June 2008. It has grown to 1,154 members. It remains the single most effective marketing tool we’ve got. Thanks, Todd!
The recent controversy seems to have encouraged many members to join the party for the purpose of voting in the current poll. We’ve crossed the milestone of a thousand! We now show 1,027 people have joined the party on this site. We encourage all members to get involved in their state and local affiliates, where politics happens.
Mega-thanks to Rocky and Susan!
Seconded.
If I have any way to post it, we’ll have it up here at IPR.
I also hope other ppl will work with me on posting it if I am not available online.
415-690-6352 if you are signed up as a writer here and would like to help me with posting stuff, if I have no computer I can use.
Mega-thanks to Rocky and Susan! Be sure your LAN cable is with you. Wireless can be spotty at best, especially live, as I learned in San Diego.
Please let us all know how to tune in!
It’s on my list of things to post tonight.
Has the agenda for the LNC meeting been made public? If so can someone post it here?
I did have a thought. I wonder if IPR should make a companion web-site, a message board, or a page where the more intra-party detailed stuff, or more opinion stuff could be posted? (Rather than the decision to cut out entirely.)
I can make Next Free Voice available for this purpose.
http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com
If the name is an issue for anyone, you can reserve a domain name for less than $10 and point it an existing wordpress site for $10 more.
Sure thing.
I also copied one of yours, with credit.
Hope you don’t mind. If you do, let me know and I’ll remove it
http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com/2009/02/24/stimulus-without-happy-ending/
I copied your post to the bostontea.us site per your request/permission. Thanks for thinking of us.
http://newamericanteaparty.com/
Although it’s organized by right wingers, this is something BTP members may wish to recruit people at if they are near one of the
cities where events are being held (if really ambitious and not near one, you can also organize your own).
I haven’t looked at it very closely, but it looks like they are reenacting the original Boston Tea Party in several cities on 2/27 and
protesting against the porkulus.
I’m busy that day, but I have some BTP fliers that Charles Jay emailed us to use in Florida last summer somewhere in my email archives, I think.
Or if anyone is good at making fliers, design your own.
LP and CP folks may wish to hit these events for those parties as well.
VTV posted a new article, but iv deleted it becasue I still felt it was biased–and I dont think it is particularly newsworthy.
Rocky Eades plans on videotaping. He’ll broadcast live if we can get signal.
Hmm. My cell can be cabled to a laptop for a live connection, but I don’t know if that will provide enough bandwidth to be useful. Plus I’ll have to remember to actually bring the cable after filching (err, borrowing) it from my husband. Better would be an actual hotel connection.
I … am overwhelmed by how much I want to cover, so I haven’t been doing anything.
I am SO there, as well. Freeze-time! My new head-in-the-sand hobby (that thing that keeps one from real work) is knitting. At least I have a warm scarf and a dishcloth to show for my laziness 🙂
@23: Rocky Eades had mentioned webcasting/streaming: “We will come prepared to live video stream the LNC meeting. Probably
via Mogulus.”
Paulie, have we heard anything on who’s web casting the LNC and where? I haven’t, and I won’t be there.
That’s something that once we find out should be posted here.
Rocky Eades plans on videotaping. He’ll broadcast live if we can get signal.
Steve Gordon has been real busy, due to a death in the family among other things, so the connectivity issue is still unresolved as far as I know.
Susan Hogarth will twitter, assuming that she can get internet and/or cell signal.
I can liveblog if someone has a laptop I can use, although I type slow.
That’s all I know on that.
I have a bunch of posts I want to make and am overwhelmed by how much I want to cover, so I haven’t been doing anything. Sorry.
I did have a thought. I wonder if IPR should make a companion web-site, a message board, or a page where the more intra-party detailed stuff, or more opinion stuff could be posted? (Rather than the decision to cut out entirely.)
I can make Next Free Voice available for this purpose.
http://pauliecannoli.wordpress.com
Paulie, have we heard anything on who’s web casting the LNC and where? I haven’t, and I won’t be there.
That’s something that once we find out should be posted here.
Wow. Impressive to see some debate and self-reflection on a political site.
I wanted to add my two cents, as a regular reader.
I do think that IPR has to keep some stance of being “news”, hence being important to the general (or, political-general) public, and having some sense of not being biased, especially in intra-party stuff. The reason I think that is partly selfish. IPR passes the criteria for “news” on google. So, I am always pleased when one of our third party stories gets to show up as “news” because of the clout of IPR.
Also, it was a little hard for me to follow the story about the Boston Tea Party that someone put above in comments. It is kind of off the beaten path and he/said she/said for even someone as nosy and gossipy as me to be interested in.
I did have a thought. I wonder if IPR should make a companion web-site, a message board, or a page where the more intra-party detailed stuff, or more opinion stuff could be posted? (Rather than the decision to cut out entirely.)
Keep up the excellent work. I feel bad that I cannot dive in and help more. But, happy that so many of you do, and keep the news flowing here.
Peace,
Kimberly Wilder
I dont think its very worth of news. If you can keep it EXTREMELY even-handed, do it. If not, dont.
Alright, I will work on a new one.
VTV’s article was pretty newsmanlike until it started asking questions. Then it migrated to an opinion piece. It is difficult to straddle that line and I know I crossed it myself.
As the other founding editor, I agree.
Oops. Looks like that took out the paragraph breaks. It’s not that long though.
Here is the text of the deleted article, for reference:
Yes, I plan to be in Charleston. After that I will be headed somewhere to work; possibly Florida or out west somewhere.
My agreement with my folks was that I would vacate their house at the end of this month.
They have been nice enough to let me crash on their floor while I have been out of work. However, that has been long enough that I have to get back to work at far less than optimal jobs.
Also, my health seems to be somewhat better now.
I am about to head out on the road
Charleston?
Yes, Ironic, huh? lol. Corrected,and thanks Jim.
Isn’t the word “permissible”?
“Trent is the only editor here. I am a writer, officially no higher up than VTV. ”
While this is technically true–Paulie you are more like an Assistant Editor than a regular contributor.
Neil Stephenson, aka VTV, is upset because I didn’t close the previous poll. Of course, I had no obligation to close it. Neil never asked me to close it. Douglass, the chair of the party, who opened the poll, never asked me to close it.
So the poll stayed open and people who were already in the party came to the poll and voted. And one guy withdrew his membership and left the party, so his vote was canceled when his membership was deleted.
And Todd won the raw vote count in that earlier poll. That was evidently a result up with which VTV would not put.
So, here’s what the national committee considered:
“I move that we restart the poll to fill the vacancy for Secretary of the BTPNC. This would settle all concerns about the fact that the current results would have been different had the time-line been strictly followed. We would start a poll immediately after passing the motion. The poll would included Todd Andrew Barnett and NOTA again. It would run for another 7-day cycle. As with any poll, any web site administrator is able to close it after the time has passed.”
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/btpnc/surveys?id=2827605
If you go to that page, you see that there were four votes in favor, that the chair ruled the motion passed, and that one of the four votes was VTV aka Neil Stephenson.
So, now he’s upset that we’re having the poll for secretary that he wanted us to have. There seems to be no pleasing this guy.
For the record, I never thought this article shouldn’t stay. I just think it was inappropriate a as news article.
Paulie or Trent,
Trent is the only editor here. I am a writer, officially no higher up than VTV.
Also, while I was doing a lot of posts until this last week, I am about to head out on the road – possibly tomorrow, or in a couple of days. I don’t have a laptop, so my internet availability will be limited, and sometimes non-existent for what can be weeks or months at a time.
Please, nobody count on me for anything here, although I’ll be here whenever time and internet availability allows.
Independent Political Report has always postured itself as a place for its reporters to post, and its reporters and readers to discuss and argue, news.
Thing is, the natural division between reportage and discussion/argument is main article for reportage, comments for discussion. Speaking as one of IPR’s founding editors, I hope that IPR will work to maintain that natural division. Moving discussion/argument into the main body of articles tends to position IPR with respect to the controversies it probably should just be reporting on.
As long as it gets tagged as a Boston Tea Party article, I think it should stay. Controversy generates growth. I love all this coverage for the party.
I looked it over.
Fixed
1) No periods in titles
2) We are classifying BTP as non-left/right. You are classifying it as right wing minor party and Libertarian Party. See comments on your last.
3) Added tag Boston Tea Party. You are not using tags.
4) Made link to comment on previous article in body a live link.
5) Added disclaimer: UPDATE from Paulie: I am marking this as an editorial, pending final review by Trent.
I am having Paulie look it over.
If it happened right here, then why post it as a news article?
There is no point in deleting it.
My only thought was that this posting has an obvious agenda and detracts from the unbiased nature of actual news postings on this site.
I just posted the news.
If they want to delete it they can. Everything I just stated is very easily verifiable. In fact a lot of it happened right here.
If someone else would like to report on it, then they can just take the subject and delete my article.
Paulie or Trent,
I think this BTP issue is now infringing into the credibility of IPR. By having someone so closely aligned to this controversy to have the ability to post an obviously slanted attack seems to detract from the mission of IPR.
I’m not looking for any action on this matter, but I personally think VTV went a bit too far with this posting.