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  1. 91% 91% January 21, 2010

    Tom @ 15

    Good points

  2. 91% 91% January 21, 2010

    “He decided to run for this particular office, at this particular time, so he could gain the most advantage from exploiting his name.”

    It allowed Joe to get on the ballot and in the debates. After that, it was not a factor.

    For anyone who was not disabused of the idea that he was Joe For Oil by the barrage of media, going to vote in just one race in bad weather was almost certainly too arduous.

  3. 91% 91% January 21, 2010

    “He’ll take more votes from Coakley than he does from Brown. ”

    True, Coakley was the second choice of Kennedy supporters by about 2-1, per Rasmussen. It looks like she did get most of their votes in the end, to no avail.

    “And for the wrong reasons.”

    No, for the right reasons: because she sucks on peace and civil liberties issues.

  4. George Phillies George Phillies January 18, 2010

    @25

    The Commonwealth has not said much. However, they are actually not enforcing very effectively the health insurance mandate. People outside the state income tax net are largely unseen by enforcement.

  5. The Last Conservative The Last Conservative January 18, 2010

    Bob @18, this is a special election. The winner tomorrow will only serve for 3 years, to the end of Teddy’s term. There could be a rematch in 2012, although Coakley probably won’t be the candidate again if she loses this time.

  6. Mik Robertson Mik Robertson January 18, 2010

    The Amish are also exempt from social security (as are railroad workers) and medicare. In Pennsylvania they are exempt from certain provisions of the statewide building code (other houses and commercial structures are required to be wired for electricity).

    It seems to me that at a minimum there are questions regarding the equal protection clause. I know there are also issues with the Pennsylvania Constitution and the exemptions. So when our township wrote the ordinance for the building code enforcement, we did it such a way as to highlight the ability of property owners to make decisions about their property. So far no one has challenged the provisions of the building code using the ordinance, but it may come in handy some day.

    I know the constitutional issues were brought up when the legislature was considering the building code a few years ago. Does the Commonwealth Constitution in Massachusetts have anything to say that may apply to the health insurance issue?

  7. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    So you admit you are a boring losertarian & bored yourself!

  8. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    Tom, I.m only one person. If I went to MA & knocked on doors & tried to explain PLAS to voters, I’d probably get arrested.

  9. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp January 18, 2010

    Bob,

    Yes, losing is sooooooooooooooooooo boring.

    And daydreaming about winning and catcalling at everyone else to make things happen for you is sooooooooooooooooooo much easier than testing your ideas against reality by actually doing the work to implement them yourself.

    Tell me something I don’t know.

  10. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    Solomon Drek, link to pretty funny website! LOL!

  11. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    Hey Tom, when you call those losertarians on the phone list, tell them I said Hi, losertarian!

  12. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    The Constitution says you are stuck with the reactionary asswipe you vote in for 6 years.

  13. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    Remember Tom, I predicted 3%, you 5-7%. Ha, Ha! Who cares?

  14. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 18, 2010

    Ho-hum. Losing is sooooooooooooooooooo boring.

  15. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp January 18, 2010

    Solomon,

    Obviously the more votes Joe gets, the better.

    On the other hand, nobody expected him to win and there are benefits to be had from his campaign which don’t necessarily come down to votes.

    He got covered by the New York Times.

    He got interviewed on Faux “News.”

    He participated in three broadcast debates.

    His volunteer operations are generating new tools that will be used by the Massachusetts LP in later campaigns (voter lists with phone numbers plugged in, for example — I’m taking a short break from doing data entry on that project right now).

    Will I be disappointed if he gets 2%? Sure — I’ll be disappointed if he gets less than a plurality, which is almost certain to happen. But his campaign has provided, and will continue to provide, benefits to the LP and the libertarian movement.

    Personally, I think both he and Scott Brown may do better than the polls predict, for one simple reason: The weather.

    It’s snowing or about to snow in Massachusetts. Coakley voters look pretty demoralized and may or may not bother to get out in bad weather to vote. Brown voters and Kennedy voters are both energized and will probably make it to the polling place even if they have to rent dog teams and sleds to get there.

  16. Melty Melty January 17, 2010

    delightful to hear Joe say what he says on teevee

  17. Melty Melty January 17, 2010

    Solomon Drek isn’t much better than a boil on the ass.

  18. Third Party Revolution Third Party Revolution January 17, 2010

    Of the two major candidates, I’d rather see Coakley win so that I can see the so called “tea baggers” go WTF!!! and all that lulz. Of course I’m still supporting Kennedy.

  19. Solomon Drek Solomon Drek January 17, 2010

    “Chalk up another loser on the old scoreboard.”

    Looks that way. Libertarians always seem to fall for the same shtick that all they need to do is grab some cheap headlines, get their candidates in a few debates and they’ll become respectable.

    It didn’t work for Murray Sabrin in the 1997 NJ governor’s race, and he had over a million dollars to spend.

  20. Solomon Drek Solomon Drek January 17, 2010

    “Joe has done more than due diligence on the “I’m not THAT Joe Kennedy” front, and the Democrats have made an effort for clarity on that as well. ”

    If he was running for any other office it should not have been necessary. He decided to run for this particular office, at this particular time, so he could gain the most advantage from exploiting his name.

  21. Solomon Drek Solomon Drek January 17, 2010

    TPR@#2: “Hopefully many uninformed people will confuse his name on the ballot for a draft movement for the other Joe Kennedy.”

    Absolutely. He’ll take more votes from Coakley than he does from Brown. And for the wrong reasons.

  22. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 17, 2010

    Chalk up another loser on the old scoreboard.

  23. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 17, 2010

    Joe, jump in the Crazy Losers Club at IPR with a big splash! Cannonball!

  24. Robert Milnes Robert Milnes January 17, 2010

    He should be on a show called “The biggest loser”.

  25. Thomas L. Knapp Thomas L. Knapp January 17, 2010

    Jake Witmer writes:

    “It’s still not too late to purchase a robo-call for this election that could bring thousands more people out to the polls on election day.”

    I don’t know if any robocalls are planned — I know there’s some live call center work going on — but it’s a great idea.

    Joe has done more than due diligence on the “I’m not THAT Joe Kennedy” front, and the Democrats have made an effort for clarity on that as well. Robocalls would be a great idea, and in them he should just introduce him as Joe Kennedy and ask for votes. If anyone mistakes him for one of “the” Kennedys and votes for him on that basis, that’s no longer his responsibility.

  26. Third Party Revolution Third Party Revolution January 17, 2010

    Hopefully many uninformed people will confuse his name on the ballot for a draft movement for the other Joe Kennedy.

  27. Jake_Witmer Jake_Witmer Post author | January 17, 2010

    Hopefully, if people like what Joe Kennedy has to say in the videos above, they will visit his homepage at http://www.joekennedyforsenate.com and contribute to his race. It’s still not too late to purchase a robo-call for this election that could bring thousands more people out to the polls on election day.

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