Third Party and Independent Daily: Constitution Party Updates

Several stories at TPID today about the Constitution Party:


CO-Gov: Progressives Debate Import of Tancredo’s Third Party Candidacy

From Political Chili:

Over at The Huffington Post, liberal blogger Jessica Corry is making “The Liberal Case for Tom Tancredo.”  According to Corry, Tancredo’s victory “could mean a handful of policy goodies long championed by liberal progressives.”  She believes that Tancredo’s “strong libertarian foundation…when communicated the right way, is both moderate and pragmatic.” . . .

Let’s review the data we have on the Constitution Party and Tom Tancredo.  A “liberal progressive” vote for Tom Tancredo may not be such a wise move. Chip Berlet, a senior researcher at Political Research Associates (see its PublicEye.org magazine), wrote in September 2008 that “the U.S. Constitution Party would impose a form of theocratic neo-fascism in the United States.”

According to the Constitution Party’s political platform, “‘The mission of the Constitution Party…is to restore American jurisprudence to its original Biblical common-law foundations.’”  The party’s preamble states that America was founded by “Christians…[and] the Gospel of Jesus Christ.”


Constitution Party Builds Presence on Facebook

From the Constitution Party’s discussion forum:

Social networking sites are HUGE these days. I imagine some of you are on FB. (If not, more CP presence would be welcomed!) Here are some good groups I’ve found there: American Constitution; American Founders; Constitution Party; a different Constitution Party page; Declaration of Independence; The Federalist Papers; Founders, Religion, and Government; God And Country; United States Constitution.


WV: Constitution Party Senate Candidate Calls for New Investigation of 9/11 Attacks

From Info Wars:

Jeff Becker, running for Senate in West Virginia in the Constitution Party, raised questions about the “foreknowledge” of WTC Building 7′s collapse on September 11th during a live televised debate that was carried nationally on C-SPAN. Indeed, even Becker’s campaign website announces proudly at the very top of his homepage that he “calls for new Senate investigation of 9/11.”

During the October 18 debate for the special election to replace the deceased Sen. Robert Byrd, Jeff Becker responded to a question about the “continued build-up of troops in Afghanistan” by telling the audience that “We need to first take a look at what happened on 9/11. There were actually three buildings that collapsed on September 11th.”


CO: Republicans Party with Tancredo

From The Colorado Statesman:

Tom Tancredo faced a rocky ride in late July when he switched political saddle brands — from Republican Party to American Constitution Party — and tossed his hat into the governor’s race. Judging by recent polls and a record-breaking turnout at the “Tancredo Republican Round-up” on Saturday, Oct. 18, the former 6th District Congressman is leaving GOP contender Dan Maes in the dust.

During the ACP candidate’s rally at The Stampede Country Dance Hall, more than 1,300 Republican revelers celebrated a Rasmussen poll showing Tancredo within four points of Democratic candidate John Hickenlooper. According to the survey conducted Oct. 14 of most likely voters, Denver Mayor Hickenlooper has 42 percent and Tancredo, 38 percent. The crowd also cheered erosion of support for Maes — reportedly 12 percent of voters surveyed.

17 thoughts on “Third Party and Independent Daily: Constitution Party Updates

  1. Gene Berkman

    Tom Tancredo does stand with The Constitution Party on their opposition to illegal immigration, and his conservative record overlaps with The Constitution Party platform in many ways. And since he supports legalization of marijuana, and opposed the Iraq surge, even libertarians may be favorable.

    But the dynamic of the campaign is similar to the situation that sometimes occurs in New York, where a Republican runs on the Conservative Party ticket against the regular Republican nominee. Tancredo the ACP candidate is not different from Tancredo the Republican Congressman, and while his election would be a victory for conservatives, it is easy to see why Republican voters would feel comfortable voting for him. He may have (temporarily) changed affiliation, but his Republican supporters will remain Republicans.

  2. paulie Post author

    He may have (temporarily) changed affiliation

    I’m not sure if it’s temporary.

    Suppose he gets elected Governor. At a minimum, he’ll come close.

    That gives him instant credibility as a presidential candidate in 2012.

    Sure, he could go back to being a Republican and run in the primaries again, and maybe he’ll even do better this time, but chances are high that he would be out before the primaries are done.

    As a CP candidate (again, especially if he is a sitting governor), he will get plenty of media attention all the way through November and force the major party candidates to deal with his pet issue.

    So, it seems to me he would have more to gain by not returning to the Republicans, at least before 2012, if ever.

  3. Gene Berkman

    Paulie – your points are valid enough. In fact, if Tancredo stays in the ACP, he will be titular head of that party in Colorado whether he is elected or not.

    My point was initially a response to Chip Berlet describing the Theocratic tendencies in The Constitution Party platform – I wanted to point out that however objectionable Tancredo is on immigration, I don’t think he is a Theocrat or a Reconstructionist.

    At the same time, I wanted to remind Constitution Party supporters that Republicans who vote for Tancredo this year are mostly going to remain Republicans, and not form a new mass basis for The Constitution Party. That is true whether Tancredo remains in the ACP or not.

  4. Gary Odom

    Gene,

    You know me very well. Do I seem like a Theocrat to you?? Please!…or is this just essential LP posturing?

    You are an Atheist, since 9 you once told me..fine, no problem, live and let live… but do you really believe that someone who believes in God and is involved in politics is automatically a Theocrat. If Tancredo isn’t why am I because certainly believe that I am the prototypical Constitution Party member.

    (Remember, you don’t want to alienate a steady customer here)

    “I wanted to remind Constitution Party supporters that Republicans who vote for Tancredo this year are mostly going to remain Republicans, and not form a new mass basis for The Constitution Party.”

    No shit!…How stupid do you think we are? You don’t think I/we understand that? Still this will give the CP a major status in Colorado.

    And, hey! The Xenophobic John and Ken endorsed your guy, Dale Ogden, not our candidate. So you guys are obviously the immigration extremists!
    Bigots…racists…mugwumps…know-nothings!

    See you in a couple of months!

    Finally, I am always glad when the LP makes progress and am always quick to congratulate you all. Why do I feel that you all seem to be jealous of any progress on the CP which is 20 years younger than the LP? I have never understood that.

  5. paulie Post author

    Why do I feel that you all seem to be jealous of any progress on the CP which is 20 years younger than the LP? I have never understood that.

    Much as I dislike Tancredo’s positions on immigration, foreign policy, and some other issues, he does have better stances than the vast majority of D/R-oid politicians on a range of issues, from marijuana policy to tax and spend issues.

    And, with this campaign, he’s helping drive a stake through the heart of the duopoly, which is a very good thing in and of itself.

    So, congratulations on the progress!

    And, hey! The Xenophobic John and Ken endorsed your guy, Dale Ogden, not our candidate. So you guys are obviously the immigration extremists!
    Bigots…racists…mugwumps…know-nothings!

    Yes, they did, and yet he’s pretty much an open borders guy – maybe not as extremely so as I am, but clearly much more so than John & Ken or your candidate. So, they’re obviously not single issue guys.

  6. Gene Berkman

    Hi Gary! I did not accuse The Constitution Party of being run by Theocrats. I was responding to an accusation by Chip Berlet, formerly of the US/Albania Friendship Association, now @ Political Research Associates. I was defending your guy Tancredo.

    And I know you are sophisticated enough to know how fleeting is the support both our parties get from Republicans. But you are more sophisticated than many in your party.

    And good for Dale Ogden! I am not a fan of John & Ken myself, but we all need whatever publicity we can get.

  7. Cody Quirk

    You should also cover the Nevada IAP more often; we are shaking things up in this state.

  8. '..... just look at the activists ' [Lake]

    paulie // Oct 22, 2010:
    “No, not like Bruce [Cohen]. Bruce [Cohen] is with you, John and Ken, and Gary on that [controlled borders].”

    [Lake: Oh Plllllllllllease! I spent 18 minutes of my life that I will never see again going thru almost 100 Bruce Cohen missives. I’ll keep looking, I do know that he has a Israel First Jewish Zionist twist on the dead and dying of the USS Liberty!]

  9. paulie Post author

    You should also cover the Nevada IAP more often; we are shaking things up in this state.

    Send stuff to contact.ipr@gmail.com and post it in the comments here.

    “No, not like Bruce [Cohen]. Bruce [Cohen] is with you, John and Ken, and Gary on that [controlled borders].”

    [Lake: Oh Plllllllllllease! I spent 18 minutes of my life that I will never see again going thru almost 100 Bruce Cohen missives. I’ll keep looking, I do know that he has a Israel First Jewish Zionist twist on the dead and dying of the USS Liberty!]

    Bruce opposes uncontrolled immigration into the US and he supports Israel, including, I believe, US government support for Israel. My statement was accurate, and still is.

  10. Tom Degan

    DISCLAIMER: I don’t smoke pot. Nor do I advocate its usage. I haven’t touched the stuff since my nineteenth birthday – August 16, 1977 – which, coincidentally, was the day that Elvis Presley died. I always tell people that Elvis and I quit drugs at the very same time, the only difference being that I did so voluntarily.

    Having said that, let me say this:

    Nearly three-quarters-of-a-century after it was made illegal; half-a-century after it was proven to be practically harmless – why is it still a crime to possess and smoke marijuana?

    Here is a list of ten famous people – heavy smokers all – who died as a result of nicotine abuse:

    Humphrey Bogart
    Edward R. Murrow
    Nat King Cole
    George Harrison
    John Huston
    Noel Coward
    Betty Grable
    Walt Disney
    Gary Cooper
    Peter Jennings

    Here is another list. Ten famous people who died from alcoholism:

    Tennessee Williams
    Jack Kerouac
    Truman Capote
    Lorenz Hart
    Veronica Lake
    Bix Beiderbecke
    Montgomery Clift
    Dylan Thomas
    John Barrymore
    Errol Flynn

    Now I’m going to ask you to name for me one celebrity who has died from too much grass.

    Go on, I’m waiting…..

    You couldn’t do it, could you? No, neither could I. Not only have I never heard of anyone dying in that matter, I am not aware of it happening in all recorded human history! Why, in 2010, are we still having this stupid conversation?

    Is it a “gateway drug” as they never tire of reminding us? Yeah, it probably is. But so is Pabst Blue Ribbon. Let’s get a grip here.

    http://www.tomdegan.blogspot.com

    Tom Degan
    Goshen, NY

  11. '..... just look at the activists ' [Lake]

    Drug are drugs. For example, nicotine is a main source of anti bug pest killers. I go thru gallons of vodka every year ——- as a house hold cleaner.

    Pot. I have never used. And if and when I start it will be with Ms Crocker and brownies, not inhale.

    [My sainted mother (that Cody Quick mocks at every term) a tobacco state babe whom chain smoked her self to death in her 30s, ran thru a pack and a half a day!]

    I have met a steady stream of medical survivors whom credit pot with their recovery. What, these folks go to secret meetings to get their stories straight?

    The dif between pot and booze and tobacco? Corporate muscle. If the pot distributors could organize, then we could pop down to the corner for pot. The least we could do, the very least, is avail it as a prescription drug.

  12. '..... just look at the activists ' [Lake]

    Bruce opposes uncontrolled immigration into the US and he supports Israel, including, I believe, US government support for Israel. My statement was accurate, and still is ………..

    [Lake: I can not yet find state ments that refute your state ment. ]

    [a] you could be 100% correct and I could wrong.

    [b] Every thing was over shadowed when Brucie went ‘alternative story of USS Liberty’ on me. [I have cried thru John Blare / John Dennis Coffey / John ‘$500’ Bambey / Valli Sharpe Geisler and the nonsensical ‘IDF was justified’ steer poo before.]

    [c] Bruce, not missed at Long Beach 2010, Cohen want to chime in?

  13. Cody Quirk

    BTW Lake, it looks like the CP is doing really well this year, especially in Colorado,.

  14. John Rivera

    Tancredo is no third-partyer. He is a Republican. He is just using the Constitution Party for his personal advancement. Additionally, we can do better than crazy 9-11 conspiracy theories.

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