50 thoughts on “Pirate Party in Germany: Nude protest against scanners

  1. paulie

    I like the Pirate Party’s style. Thanks for posting this!

    BTW, I’ve been classifying them under non-left-right…what do you think?

  2. Single Winner Districts = Neanderthal Attractor

    …my first impression is that you’re reaching a bit too far, by nurturing international content.

    IPR is in an embrionic stage, and reaching for the international stuff will scatter your efforts, unless it’s done right.

    No offense intended, but you’re not doing it right. Get your own house in order (the US), and then maybe start going international.

    I can help you, the USA Parliament, Inc. has a small international sector too. If we were to work together, maybe you can improve faster?

  3. Kimberly Wilder

    Single Winner Districts:

    Thanks for your thoughts on this article, and your thoughts on our strategy.

    I do think that we mostly focus on national issues here.

    One reason that I posted the Pirate Party story was because it was a direct tie-in with the same issue — nude scanners — that American politics is dealing with. And, I also knew I could directly comment and remind people that the Libertarian’s having taken a position on the same issue.

    In some ways, I used the fun and culture of the foreign story to remind us of our own issues.

    So, that was my reasoning.

    IPR also tends to do some international stuff when it is easy or interesting to cover – such as when the Green Party does an international round-up.

    Interested in the thoughts of others.


  4. Kimberly Wilder

    Paulie –

    Somehow I think the Pirates are more left than right.

    Unless we come up with a specific editorial list of who is left and right, perhaps it makes sense to go on our best hunches of things?

    Part of my confusion may be that I believe Libertarians are into guarding copyright law. So, I think of it is a “right” position. But, I think the Pirates want more music and ideas to be public domain.

    Not sure that makes sense. But, it is part of why I think the Pirates are left.

    (I also think that many parties would like to claim “non left/right. The Green Party has a specific slogan of “Neither left, nor right, but forward”. So, a lot of Greens identify as non left/right, and know it would sell well!)


  5. paulie

    I believe Libertarians are into guarding copyright law

    No, many of us are against it.

    Green Party has its own category.

    If there is any question, I classify parties as non-L/R.

  6. paulie

    IPR also tends to do some international stuff when it is easy or interesting to cover – such as when the Green Party does an international round-up.

    Interested in the thoughts of others.

    I think we should keep doing international articles, but not to have them predominate the site. The current ratio seems about right to me.

  7. Burke101

    Glad to see people are standing up on this issue. I’m pretty much resolved to not get on any airline in which I will be x-rayed.

    This country is going nuts. I don’t say that lightly. I’ve worked in the counterterrorism field in the past. Now I’m working against the pervs over in the TSA.

    Check out my website (click on my name) to see more on this.

  8. paulie


    “As I was walking to baggage claim at IND, I passed by the TSA booth near security check-in. I was surprised to see what was the desktop/background image on this TSA computer: It is a cover for a fake children’s book called “My First Cavity Search”.

    You can see a bigger version of the cover here: i26.tinypic.com/1zpkwle.jpg

    But seriously TSA – not cool.”

  9. paulie

    The TSA chose Meg McLain for special screening. They wanted her to go through the new porno-scanners. When she opted out, TSA agents raised an enormous ruckus. When she asked some question about what they planned to do to her, they flipped out. TSA agents yelled at her, handcuffed her to a chair, ripped up her ticket, called in 12 local Miami cops and finally escorted her out of the airport. Listen to her story as she told it on radio show Free Talk Live last night. Things are truly getting scary. wewontfly.com/?question-tsa-risk FreeTalkLive.com

  10. paulie

    @15 clever indeed. After all, we know Islamic terrorists will not blow their chance at 72 virgins in paradise by standing behind some hot chicks in line and er…going off…prematurely


  11. paulie

    From James Babb

    Hi Folks,

    If you are doing anything to protest TSA abuses please email me directly.

    The success of http://www.WeWontFly.com and the “National Opt-out Day” have swamped
    George Donnelly and myself with media inquiries. Everything from tiny blogs to
    major papers, network TV and cable news are calling. The phone hasn’t stopped
    ringing in a week. I’d love to refer reporters to local media contacts. It could
    be a great opportunity for your local group.

    If you don’t have something scheduled, its a goldmine for media attention.

    Here’s what we are doing in Philly:


    We have a map to post events on. So please email me with anything, even if its
    just you passing out flyers at the airport.

    Its a rare opportunity when a 100% anti-state, libertarian position is also a
    majority view. I strongly encourage everyone to grab some free media.


    Jim Babb

  12. paulie

    From George Donnelly

    Any city with an airport, no matter how small, is ripe for opt out day pamphleting. If there aren’t scanners there *yet* travelers departing from there may go through scanners at other airports on their way back. Current list of organizers is on map at url below


    National Opt Out Day November 24 | We Won’t Fly
    Say “I opt out”. When/if TSA agents direct you to a full body x-ray scanner, tell them: “I opt out.” Be prepared for screaming, intimidation and groping. Don’t let the TSA agents move you into a back room! Keep an eye on your property and stand your ground. Let every individual see how the TSA is t

  13. paulie

    From James Babb:

    Airports who currently have imaging technology:
    Albuquerque International Sunport Airport
    Baltimore/Washington International Thurgood Marshall Airport
    Boise Airport
    Boston Logan International Airport
    Bradley International Airport
    Brownsville/South Padre Island International Airport
    Buffalo Niagara International Airport
    Bush Houston Intercontinental Airport
    Charlotte Douglas International Airport
    Chicago O’Hare International Airport
    Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport
    Cleveland International Airport
    Corpus Christi International Airport
    Denver International Airport
    Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport
    Detroit Metro Airport
    El Paso International Airport
    Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport
    Fort Wayne International Airport
    Fresno Air Terminal
    Gerald R. Ford Grand Rapids International Airport
    General Mitchell Milwaukee International Airport
    Greater Rochester International Airport
    Gulfport-Biloxi International Airport
    Harlingen/Valley International Airport
    Harrisburg International Airport
    Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport
    Honolulu International Airport
    Indianapolis International Airport
    Jacksonville International Airport
    John F. Kennedy International Airport
    Kansas City International Airport
    Lambert/St. Louis International Airport
    Laredo International Airport
    Lihue Airport
    Los Angeles International Airport
    Louis Armstrong New Orleans International
    Luis Muñoz Marín International Airport
    McAllen Miller Airport
    McCarran International Airport
    Memphis International Airport
    Miami International Airport
    Mineta San José International Airport
    Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport
    Nashville International Airport
    Oakland International Airport
    Omaha Eppley Airfield Airport
    Orlando International Airport
    Palm Beach International Airport
    Philadelphia International Airport
    Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport
    Pittsburgh International Airport
    Port Columbus International Airport
    Raleigh-Durham International Airport
    Richmond International Airport
    Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport
    Salt Lake City International Airport
    San Antonio International Airport
    San Francisco International Airport
    San Jose International Airprot
    Seattle-Tacoma International Airport
    Spokane International Airport
    T. F. Green International Airport
    Tampa International Airport
    Tulsa International Airport

    Airports receiving imaging technology soon:
    Chicago Midway International Airport
    Dulles International Airport
    Houston William P. Hobby Airport
    La Guardia International Airport
    Saipan International Airport

  14. paulie

    brad.spangler@c4ss.org is putting together a list of cities and contacts of people who are planning to do things…please drop him a note if you plan on doing anything or know someone who will or might.

    Also, please post your plans here as well….we need people to get the word out in as many cities as possible.

  15. paulie

    4 – New TEA Party: Terrorized Enough Already?
    Posted on November 14, 2010 by paulie

    A lot of people may have forgotten but the TEA parties (before becoming cheer squads for the usual conservative mixing of church and state and the military/industrial/domestic espionage complex) stood for Taxed Enough Already. We need a new TEA party: Terrorized Enough Already. Enough already with the terrorizing us with terror of terrible terrorists. Enough already with terrorizing us with the terroristic TSA. http://wewontfly.com and http://flywithdignity.org can be the start of a new TEA party which will say “enough already” to the terrorizing, terror-obsessed Homeland Security State, much as the TEA parties were meant to say Enough Already to overtaxation. Can we get the Terrorized Enough meme out there, and if we do, can we keep it from, being co-opted by big government “butter vs. guns” false choices? (Yes to both, and no to either one being provided by the government, btw, kthx).

  16. Winks

    I find these objections to airport security a bit disconcerting. As a frequent traveler, I am subjected to varying degrees of screening on a regular basis. I have been subjected to these so-called sexual assaults and interrogations in many, many countries, including Israel, and I am always happy to comply, because as they say, it is better to be a lot safe than even a little sorry!

    I would hate to think that this current wave of criticism aimed at the US-TSA is in some way political or based in the general wave of dislike for President Obama.

    It just seems so ironic that the very people who are most zealous about national security are now suggesting that we refrain from using the most advanced technology and procedures available to our government in order to fulfill its duty of keeping us safe. Is there really something to these objections, or is this yet another attempt to discredit the president and his administration?
    It is one thing to be critical of big government and to push back appropriately on government over-reach; it is quite another thing to protest against one’s own self interests in a way that may endanger all airline travelers and anyone within range of an airplane; and it is outright outrageous to encourage a boycott to delay and confuse airport operations during the holiday season. Have we forgotten what almost happened last Christmas?

    For those who are suggesting this is somehow a government-sanctioned sexual assault: this is my personal opinion, but I think you are over-reacting in a very dark way. There are a lot of bad people in the world who would probably love to grope a nun, a five year old or maybe even me, but as someone who travels nearly every week, I can tell you, the data just does not bear out the belief that these people are working as TSA agents, trolling for someone to feel up.
    There is nothing sexual about a TSA agent having to stand in clear view of his/her coworkers and everyone else at the airport, running a gloved hand up an unwashed, slovenly, germ ridden airline traveler. Do you really think they enjoy having to probe old men to see if that is really a colostomy bag the scanner shows? Even five year old children, as sweet as they can be, are often smelly and dirty. Do you seriously think these minimum wage workers WANT to feel you up? Sadly, terrorists know how to dress up as nuns. Sadly, terrorists would blow up their five year old, white looking kid. Sadly, a terrorist knows that a suicide bomber only needs to do one bad thing in life – a suicide bomber can have a squeaky clean past – until…

    For those who say this would not be permitted if the government was not doing it: have you ever been to a major NFL event or a concert? Have you ever been to the headquarters of a major corporation? If so, you know that you will be subjected to similar screening as you do in an airport. And if you don’t like it, you are free not to go – same with the airport.

    Now, for those of you who say that Israel has rejected these searches, or who say we should model our security after the Israelis, I guess you do not know that America’s main TSA advisor is a former El Al security director, and that most of our emerging technologies and procedures do in fact come from Israel. I guess you also do not know that Israel does not publish its security policies, so unless you have traveled through Israel’s one and only airport, I guess you would not know! As someone who has traveled through Israel in numerous occasions, let me give you a high level view of some of Israel’s security policies:
    • First of all, as with most major institutions in Israel, airport security is SOCIALISTIC. It is run by the Israeli government and the military; it is not privatized and outsourced to hinky security companies.
    • When you enter the airport, the first thing that happens is you are questioned by a military officer with a gun. This person is empowered to ask you about anything: religion, sexual orientation, whom you saw, where you were, what you ate. Since Israel only has one airport, there is no such thing as a domestic flight, so everyone is asked for their passport immediately upon entry to the airport. They scan your passport and ask you about prior travel including previous trips to Israel.
    • Your bags go through three screenings in total, at least one of which usually results in at least one of your bags being opened. This is all before you get to the actual body scanners!!
    • Now, some people have said that Israel is rejecting the body scanners we are using in the US. This is not true. I went through one such scanner when traveling out of Tel Aviv in July 2010. Again, Israel does not really publish exactly what it does, because it does not want to enable terrorists to game their system, and quite frankly they change their protocols on a DAILY basis!
    • Israel does very invasive pat down searches when someone “fails” a body scan or when someone seems nervous or otherwise suspicious.
    • Israel performs 6 times more strip searches than any other country based on the number of people who move through their airport!
    • Lastly, and probably most importantly, Israel does not allow politicians to weigh in on airport security, nor does it care what people like you and me think. If you don’t like it, you better not try to go in or out of Ben Gurion Airport, because the State of Israel could not really care what you think about overly-invasive searches.

    Let’s come to our senses here. G-d forbid if one of these protestors enables a terrorist to get through.

  17. paulie

    it is better to be a lot safe than even a little sorry!

    Those who trade freedom for safety deserve neither, and will get neither.

    Is there really something to these objections,

    Yes. See

    attempt to discredit the president and his administration?

    We feel the same way about the last president as well. See


    A sentiment I share.

    Have we forgotten what almost happened last Christmas?

    Nope. Read
    Underwear Bomber Wouldn?t Have Brought Down Flight 253

    For those who are suggesting this is somehow a government-sanctioned sexual assault: this is my personal opinion, but I think you are over-reacting in a very dark way.

    No, it’s the TSA that is over-reacting, and over-reaching, quite literally.

    There are a lot of bad people in the world who would probably love to grope a nun, a five year old or maybe even me, but as someone who travels nearly every week, I can tell you, the data just does not bear out the belief that these people are working as TSA agents, trolling for someone to feel up.

    What data? Why wouldn’t someone like that get a job at TSA? Sounds like a perfect job for them.

    Here’s some data for you…..


    ?As I was walking to baggage claim at IND, I passed by the TSA booth near security check-in. I was surprised to see what was the desktop/background image on this TSA computer: It is a cover for a fake children?s book called ?My First Cavity Search?.

    You can see a bigger version of the cover here: http://i26.tinypic.com/1zpkwle.jpg

    But seriously TSA ? not cool.?

    Do you really think they enjoy having to probe old men to see if that is really a colostomy bag the scanner shows?

    There’s all kind of strange fetishes out there, that’s for sure.



  18. Alaska Constitution Party


    Wednesday 11/24/10

    Run the Gauntlet: Jam the Scan & Grind the Grope…
    Everyone show up at your local airport to peacefully protest the egregious
    violations of our civil liberties by the TSA. Stand in Line, or carry a sign or
    call the airlines to tell them you are boycotting the system. Resist this mass
    conditioning and control program being INTRODUCED in our airports. This is only
    the beginning of a comprehensive police surveillance state soon to be unveiled
    throughout our communities. Resist Tyranny while you can!

  19. d.eris

    “I can tell you, the data just does not bear out the belief that these people are working as TSA agents, trolling for someone to feel up.”

    hmmmm . . . this woman might disagree with you:

    There are too many examples of TSA employing rapists, perverts, child molesters to list here. This post provides a good start:

  20. paulie

    I’m getting a feeling that may have been a hit and run article that has probably been pasted all over the place.

    Although, if anyone who agrees with it wants to engage the points made in response, please do.

  21. paulie

    Latest from the http://hammeroftruth.com/ chat. Comments are unsigned so I don’t know who said what…

    01:04:25 TSA = Tyrannical Sexual Assault

    01:04:53 Tourists Sexually Assaulted

    01:37:30 Toss salad again?

    01:39:44 Testicular Search Agency

    01:40:01 lol

    01:40:18 Tourism Suppression Agency

    01:54:22 total sexual abuse

    04:21:10 I like that

    04:35:30 anyone catch the Simpson’s pretty good writing this season on economic type stuff

    04:36:57 mockery is a most powerful tool when properly used with righteousness

    04:58:34 https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AjK_TBeFd4LpdG0xaEc4WUtQbnlaUTM4MzdyRjVOU1E&hl=en&single=true&gid=0&output=html

    04:58:57 Opt Out Day organizing looks like it needs some help

    06:56:28 Can you build a hydrogen collector system that runs off solar energy?

    06:59:37 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEdQRVQtffw

    07:05:20 wow, if the government weren’t so full of suck guys like this would be business tycoons

    07:18:22 Tyrannical Sexual Assailants

    07:21:05 http://www.prisonplanet.com/tsa-now-putting-hands-down-fliers-pants.html

    07:27:37 Testicle Sniffers Association

    07:28:35 I’m so glad the troops are fighting for these freedoms… :,(

    07:29:25 the TSA is trying to provoke terrorism, not stop it

    07:29:33 homegrown

    07:35:46 it’s about indoctrination, dehumanizing us to try and make us easier targets for atomization


    07:52:51 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk

    08:07:56 ^ great vid

    08:08:25 demoralization of the masses… hmmm

    08:14:53 LOV3

    08:15:06 R3VOLUTION

    10:02:29 http://www.gonzotimes.com/2010/11/the-corporate-states-grab-continues-with-senate-bill-510/

    13:12:17 the government doesn’t go after your freedoms one at a time… they attack them many at the same time in multi-pronged attacks… but we are vigilent!

    14:39:12 http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/clevelandairport.com <---- OFFLINE?! 15:44:39 RON PAUL floor speech on C-SPAN, probably between 5-6 PM EST 15:44:47 TSA related 16:10:54 THERE'S ALMOST 100, WE ARE THE SIZE OF A CULT! 16:14:11 do you guys want more personalized stats on the front page? 16:23:59 ?_? 16:58:40 sure why not 16:58:51 :3 17:19:38 http://dailyteaparty.com/2010/11/12/grassroots-win-tsa-tyrannical-practices-forced-to-the-forefront-by-your-emails-napolitano-to-meet-travel-industry/

    17:19:57 Mentions Gigi Bowman is organizing NYC

    17:20:14 Opt out protest

    17:21:29 http://polizeros.com/2010/11/17/tsa-scanners-and-body-searches-are-abusive-appalling-and-unconstitutional/

    17:23:41 http://crazyforliberty.com/2010/11/16/say-i-opt-out-of-airport-scanners-on-national-opt-out-day-november-24.aspx

    17:25:07 http://thirdpartydaily.blogspot.com/2010/11/pirate-party-exclusive-dhstsa-security.html

    17:25:34 http://punkpatriot.blogspot.com/2010/11/tsa-if-you-dont-let-us-touch-your-penis.html

    17:26:00 Kansas City: Gabe Grider is organizing the protest… http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1392557877

    17:26:41 And JR Myers up in alaska http://www.meetup.com/Alaska-Constitution-Party/

    17:28:18 http://amarillo.com/news/local-news/2010-10-11/lawsuit-airport-search-indecent

    17:28:42 http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2010/11/daedalus-shrugged-mounting-resistance.html

  22. paulie

    Rwolf comments at http://hammeroftruth.com/2010/tsa-it-is-irresponsible-for-a-group-to-suggest-travelers-opt-out/

    The Nazis used national emergency as a premise to repeatedly target and detain, search and question Germans boarding or taking trains considered political dissidents or morally unworthy; targeted Citizens were intentionally delayed by police/military so they would be late or miss work. Of course many lost there jobs and could not survive.

    Does the lawsuit by The Transportation Security Administration against John Tyne for refusing the X-ray body scan mean; that we don’t dare buy a plane ticket unless we are prepared to submit to a body scan or be sued for $11,000? Pretty soon most persons showing up to fly will be those that will submit to X-ray scans, erroneously giving the impression the public has accepted being repeatedly radiated/scanned before flying. I would not want to own airline stock.

    If not stopped, Airports are just the beginning of Citizens being X-rayed / Stripped Naked by Government, having their Private Body Parts Touched, Squeezed and Patted-Down by Government Employees. It is problematic Americans (next) will be X-Ray Scanned and Physically Molested boarding trains, cruse ships, buses; when entering sports events and office buildings. Continued Low Radiation Exposure is Accumulative and believed to cause Cancer.

    Americans should boycott airlines; that would get TSA’s attention and stockholders of airlines. Meanwhile Not just pilots and flight attendants, “ordinary air passengers” should also be afforded privacy, when felt up, searched at public airports.

    Talk about government in your face. Recently the Obama government purchased hundreds’ of X-Ray Vans that will travel our streets without warrants, x-raying Americans, seeing Citizens naked when walking, standing, riding their bike. Government/police will use the x-ray vans to peer though Citizens’ homes and vehicles, exposing Americans and their families to radiation. X-ray vans are an affront to privacy, allowing government to view Citizens in their bedrooms. Americans need to ask Obama if independent studies were conducted to determine if Citizens could develop Cancer, if (repeatedly exposed) to police X-rays. It is easy to imagine government/police with or without a warrant every night X-raying a person of interest in his or her home. It is foreseeable some Citizens might install similar to smoke detectors, sensors that will set off an alarm, if their home or vehicle is being bombarded with X-rays.

    Obama’s X-Ray Vans can ALSO be used by the military or police to secure perimeters to control civil unrest and instances of revolt, to screen and stop Citizens carrying guns, cameras; any item. Does Obama expect Americans to revolt?

  23. Hmmm ...

    Are they doing these naked viewings of children too?

    How’s that legal?

    Isn’t that kiddy porn?

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