Jim Burns plans campaign tour to seek Libertarian Presidential nomination

Email from James L. Burns, a candidate for the Libertarian Presidential nomination:

My neighbor, Harry Friend, and I have put together a
presentation. I like it and I hope you will like it too.
The production takes a little over 30 minutes which
can be followed by questions and answers.

Mr. Friend opens with mostly some LP background
about me and then sets the stage for my interpretation
of Patrick Henry’s speech (in costume) which I follow
with a talk outlining my reasons for seeking the 2012 LP
nomination for president and then Mr. Friend closes, then
we can finish or I can follow by answering questions.

We gave our first production on Monday, March 7, 2011,
in San Diego. It was a small group of libertarians, but I am
pleased with what happened and I am confident we will improve.

Mr. Friend and I are going to travel around giving our show to
those who invite us, starting in the last week of this month. First
to Denver on the 31st of March, then an LP convention in Wisconsin
on the 2nd of April, then an LP meeting La Porte, IN on the 3rd of April.
There may be meetings in NH on the 9th and New Mexico on the 16th
of April. On the 30th of April we are set to address the NY convention.
Then we will be making our way home.

I ask you: Please invite us to give our performance to your group, large
or small. We have very limited funds so we will need to be within striking
distance, but we are willing and will make our best efforts to attend and give
a good show. When not on our way to speak to an LP group, we have friends
where we can stay at no cost to us in Western PA and OK city OK. Please
contact me to see if we can arrange something.

After late May, we hope to do things on the West coast.

Best Wishes,

Jim Burns
http://www.jimburnsforpresident.com/
PO Box 1139
Beatty, NV 89003
541-261-4163
702-722-9494

31 thoughts on “Jim Burns plans campaign tour to seek Libertarian Presidential nomination

  1. paulie Post author

    See comments on
    https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/02/jim-burns-political-tsunami-the-next-step/

    Article: https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/01/paleocon-red-phillips-discusses-potential-libertarians-for-president/

    Comments: https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/08/jim-burns-plan-to-defeat-harry-reid/

    Comments: https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2010/07/from-jim-burns-a-candidate-for-the-libertarian-nomination-for-president-in-2012/

    That should give you some idea.

  2. Sane LP member

    FEC filing.
    How much is their budget.
    How many states do they have operations set up.
    Past political office experience

  3. paulie Post author

    iirc Burns wants nothing to do with the FEC and keeps his campaigns under 5k so he doesn’t have to file with them.

    As far as states with “operations set up” the answer is that they are just getting started, so they have no “operations.” The same is largely true of all other candidates for the LP presidential nomination at this stage.

    Wrights is the closest to being organized, and he only has a small core of national volunteer staff, as far as I know.

    Burns is the second closest to being organized in that he sends us regular campaign releases and is planning a tour.

    Duensing has sent us a total of one release and has announced no plans to travel anywhere.

    Root is widely considered a likely candidate, but he has made no announcement and formed no exploratory committee.

    Roger Gary has just told me plans to announce, but I haven’t received anything yet.

    As far as I know, none of them have ever held elected or appointed office, except that Roger Gary has been on some kind of local committee and I think Wayne is right now, if he runs.

    Actually, I don’t think it matters that much. Barr, Ron Paul in ’88, and Marrou in ’92 had had previous government office, and that didn’t help the LP much. Neither did Cynthia McKinney’s stints in Congress help the Greens, nor did Pat Buchanan’s service in several White House administrations help the Reform Party much in 2000, etc.

  4. FKC

    I read that he went to prison for tax evasion, wears confederate flag gear, sued the Nevada LP a few years ago (not sure about what), and runs for the top office in every election.

  5. Sane LP member

    Thank you @4
    I can’t take Jim Burns seriously as a result .
    Looks like the LP has nobody to run that will make an impact for 2012. I guess I can sit out another POTUS election. Someday, the LP may get a credible candidate that the public will get behind. Frankly, it’s nothing but a box of “M and M’s”. Money and Media.

  6. Sane LP member

    Otherwise, just vote NOTA at the national LP convention. That will allow LP-state affiliates to focus on statewide races and not be embarrassed by some of the LP “legends in their own mind” that think they are qualified to be POTUS. Loony and embarrassing candidates only serve to give a bad image of the LP to many citizens. We need to start to think well beyond our comfortable Libertarian living room.

  7. LibertarianGirl

    “I read that he went to prison for tax evasion, wears confederate flag gear, sued the Nevada LP a few years ago (not sure about what), and runs for the top office in every election.”

    me_ i getta little miffed when people keep saying he ‘went to prison for tax evasion’ like its a bad thing. Ill tellya this – IT AINT A CRIME IN MY BOOK…

    anyways , Nevada will have 3 candidates for pres. and I can tell you this , Nevada’s Lpers will be about equally split among the 3. all of them have their home-boys

  8. JT

    Paulie: “Way too early to tell.”

    Agreed. Come on, people…it’s early 2011. The national convention is mid-2012. There’s a huge amount of time for other candidates to enter the race and build campaigns.

  9. Nicholas Sarwark

    me_ i getta little miffed when people keep saying he ‘went to prison for tax evasion’ like its a bad thing. Ill tellya this – IT AINT A CRIME IN MY BOOK…

    Being a convicted felon is obviously not a legal bar to running for President (though it does stop one from voting for oneself). And there are people like yourself who don’t feel the crime should be a crime in the first place.

    However, we are choosing a candidate to represent our party to the rest of the country. Most people have negative feelings about felonies and felons and are not likely to be receptive to explanations about why this particular felony or felon is different.

    The Lobertarian message is radical and challenging to most people. We should not give them an easy excuse to ignore the messenger.

  10. steven wilson

    If Ron Paul gets on the elephant ticket, even Harry Browne couldn’t steal thunder from that.

    1. Myers talks about ending war

    2. Root talks about home school

    3. Wrights talks about medical marijuana

    Pretend to run a campaign and get a few more votes.

  11. AroundtheblockAFT

    How about we just let each state nominate whomever it wants for the presidential slot?
    So what if the LP has fifty candidates? [That alone may get more press notice than one candidate will!] Advantage: each state’s candidate can spend a bunch more time stumping that state for local candidates and getting interviews about our ideas instead of
    “what are your chances of winning, chuckle, chuckle.”

  12. TinFoilCap & JockeyShorts to Match

    Here we go again ! Out come the “nebobs of negativity”! Nothing positive to say, not the courage to put their name on a ballot, nope just run down the people who want to increase libertarian ideas among society.

    Mr . Burns ask for help scheduling, can anyone help him and his friend along the route from NV to NYC? Fine, THANK YOU very much. Mr. Burns is a Libertarian from what I’ve seen in interviews and a debate. In fact he is much more of a libertarian than most of these pissed off Republicans who gave America a Barr/Root ticket in ’08 that garnered .4% of the vote (that’s right .4% not even 4%)! Same pissed off Rs that wish to continue to “purge” the LP of the people who actually understand what libertarian means. Jim Burns won’t be “embarassing” the LP any more than some people EMBARASS the LP by spreading this Republican Lite off as libertarian principles! So if you can help the man schedule some events or give them a bed to sleep in overnite please do so, thanks.

    Now that I ve straighten you punks out!-lol. It’s time to stop delusional ideas and TALK ! The LP isn’t going to be a factor in a POTUS race UNTIL it is stronger at the grassroots level. That means more boots on the ground. More members friends. More members friends! More members friends!! How oh how do you get more members? Well I’m sure you intelligent people can come up with dozens of ideas sitting there at your computer in your underwear ! However I think it has a lot to do with spreading the *message. The more people (candidates) you have actually out there SPREADING the *MESSAGE the BETTER !!! Bravo Jim Burns for your dedication to the LP cause, I wish you much success as I wish for Mr. Duensing (that’s pronounced DUN SING btw the e is silent), Mr. Wrights and whoever else will put their clothes on and get out there SPREADING the LP MESSAGE to the masses ! They ALL (everyone of them) are to be applauded and thanked for attempting to advance the LP message! More boots on the ground at the grassroots equals success. Not imaginary vote totals in delusional minds but actual redblooded humans working local precincts will make the LP relevant in American politics, not some “big name” saviour who fails as usual! (*Message is hopefully equal to a libertarian message within the LP Platform or BETTER!!!)

    So please Please be tolerant with the LP candidates. If they say something wrong then you may correct them! If not be thankful they are out there recruiting NEW members to the LP. I was introduced to the LP and libertarianism through a book, but the vast majority of people don’t read books. They must be reached by the spoken word. LP candidates speak those words! The more LP candidates in the race(s) the better!

    Hey, I have a great idea why don’t EACH and everyone of us in honor of David Nolan and the Fortieth anniversary of the LP send EACH candidate who announces for the LP POTUS nomination and EACH local and state LP candidate in our state (at least more if you can) $40.00. That’s right how bout helping them out for ONCE, in many of your cases. Place on the check if you wish “in honor of David Nolan”! Send a little note with the $40 thanking them for SPREADING the LP MESSAGE would be nice also !!!

    What is Mr.Burns’ email address? Anyone know? Thanks!

  13. JT

    Around: “How about we just let each state nominate whomever it wants for the presidential slot?”

    Is this a joke? I hope so. Even though the Libertarian candidate for President obviously won’t win, this would make the LP a total laughingstock.

  14. paulie Post author

    Otherwise, just vote NOTA at the national LP convention.

    Bad idea. See http://www.harrybrowne.org/articles/LibertarianVoteTotal.htm and http://www.harrybrowne.org/2000/WasItWorthIt.htm

    Also talked about this a good bit in the comments at https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2011/03/andy-jacobs-libertarians-need-to-make-it-clear-that-we-are-just-as-far-from-being-republicans-as-we-are-from-being-democrats/ around the 30s, 40s and 50s in comment numbers.

  15. paulie Post author

    i getta little miffed when people keep saying he ‘went to prison for tax evasion’ like its a bad thing. Ill tellya this – IT AINT A CRIME IN MY BOOK…

    I think running someone convicted of a crime that shouldn’t be a crime is not necessarily a bad thing. It reaches out to millions of other people who think it shouldn’t be a crime either and shows them you mean what you say.

    anyways , Nevada will have 3 candidates for pres. and I can tell you this , Nevada’s Lpers will be about equally split among the 3. all of them have their home-boys

    Got any leanings yourself…if so who do you like?

  16. Jose C

    Confederate flags are awesome.

    I disagree. The flag stood for something very ugly. It stood for racism and slavery. I would add tell that to those that died at the Andersonville prisoner of war camp. By the way after the war Henry Wirz the commander of the camp was tried and convicted of war crimes. And tell that to those brave black Union soldiers who during the Battle of Fort Pillow as they were attempting to surrender were massacred by Confederate soldiers.

    Every group has a dark ugly past. Southerners should come to terms with thiers.

  17. paulie Post author

    Jose, you should be aware that the same person that posted that also posted openly racist comments in another thread. Furthermore the name they are using is the name of a singer in a neo-nazi rock band.

  18. AroundtheblockAFT

    #18, it started as a joke but I’ve come to see a lot of merit in running fifty “unqualified” candidates
    instead of one. Some pros: states who strongly backed Ms.X but lost at the convention wouldn’t have to get half-heartedly behind Mr.Y. (or actively bitching about the Party nominating Mr. Y)
    There would end up being lots of “lab” experiments so Ms.X’s campaign could be compared to Mr.Y, and Z and etc. through voting results, giving the winner a leg up for seeking the nomination next time and showing what tactics are successful and which aren’t. The LP will also get to explain that it is the Libertarian message that is important, not the person delivering it. And, as I stated, each presidential candidate will have a lot more chance to cover all the media outlets, and support local candidates, if only responsible for one or a few states.

  19. Nicholas Sarwark

    The “lab experiment” at the state level is running candidates for state office to see how they perform, how their message resonates, and whether they hold up well under the rigors of a campaign.

    When someone seeks the Presidential nomination without any prior campaigns, we don’t have the information that can help us decide what kind of candidate they will be. That lack of track record is not an absolute bar for me supporting their nomination, but it sure doesn’t help.

  20. TinFoilCap & JockeyShorts to Match

    Now L’Girl I think he ran for POTUS in ’08, what other year did he run for POTUS? Most (at least some) of us have ran multi times at the lower levels so let’s not count them against him or others. We don’t have enough members yet to fill all open slots on the ballot. Therefore we must run multiple times down ticket. I don’t think we should run in state rep races because they make the ballot access laws but that post is for another day and another topic.

    He definitely isn’t trying to pull a Barr and duck all debates and wait until the last minute to get in and “SAVED” the day for the LP!!! Yeap all the way to .004 of the vote! Thank you Mr.Barr!!!

    The odds are great, I cheer Jim Burns for putting forth the effort to spread the LP message ! I hope many more join Burns, Duensing, Gary and Wrights!

  21. paulie Post author

    , what other year did he run for POTUS?

    2004 for sure, I saw him debate at the Arizona LP convention.

  22. Andy

    “However, we are choosing a candidate to represent our party to the rest of the country. Most people have negative feelings about felonies and felons and are not likely to be receptive to explanations about why this particular felony or felon is different.”

    It depends on what the felony is. If it is for something that libertarians don’t consider to be a crime (such as a non-violent drug or gun control “offense” or tax evasion) then there’s no reason why they can’t still be a Libertarian Party candidate. Anyone who is offended by something like that is not going to be somebody who is going to vote Libertarian anyway. There are also a lot of people out there who agree with Libertarians that certain things that are currently considered to be crimes should not be crimes, so a candidate that has been convicted for something like that could draw in support from people who are sympathetic to the cause of whatever non-crime (from a libertarian perspective) for which they were convicted.

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