From an email. “Wayne Root speaking at last nights event for Gary Johnson, starts at 1 minute in.”
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June 4, 2026
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From an email. “Wayne Root speaking at last nights event for Gary Johnson, starts at 1 minute in.”
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7WViDpZGNg here’s a slightly edited one found when looking for something else with their names in it (how high my Boot Root page is coming up now. haha) LPNevada (at least Root et al can still be kings of something or other).
It’s working now but I can’t find it separately on Youtube. WEIRD…
Two weeks? It just started for me on Thursday. You’re right that someone should post something that it’s being worked on. If it isn’t fixed by tonight, I’ll post something.
That is what I am getting Jill. I also get a note from my malware program that they block a bug every time I visit IPR. That has been going on for about two weeks.
The pop-up I get is in Spanish. I hope someone can figure out how to get rid of it.
@55,
Weird. “Just Been Paid” is the front end of a “high-yield investment program” (some say a Ponzi scheme) called JSS Tripler.
And JSS Tripler is the creation of a guy (Frederick Mann) who used to run a weird scheme to sell anarcho-capitalism through multi-level marketing — it was called Terra Libra and it was quite fun. I’d say it did more to get me into the anarchist column than Rothbard ever did.
Hi guys. When I clicked on this thread I got a link to a site titled Just Been Paid and it happened a couple of time yesterday. Maybe someone might wish to check and see what is happening. Bye for now.
Jill, it came out late so as to appear as 2 separate things , no need to tarnish Gary by releasing it the same time as WARS clean-up speech… I guess the released what they thought was most important first . I hope GJ is paying attention , because the releasing of Waynes back-track first is just another slap in the face ….anyways
anyone know who GJ might be endorsing for VP?? I read somewhere he was coming out with an announcement
“when your a jet your a jet all the time “, NV shadow delegation in rehearsals to bust out choreographed west side story jet song when running into “official” NV delegation
Forget about it.
Sure sounds like it.
When a street gang reaches a certain level of power and influence, it trades in its leather jackets for Armani suits and starts talking about “national sovereignty” instead of “turf lines.”
I get the impression that Ross Perot was more concerned about national soverignty than Gary Johnson! I fear that Gary might be a globalist in Libertarian clothing! I hope to be proven wrong and will get to more town halls with him, but it may be that Romney is more concerned with sovereingty than Johnson! Maybe I’m more constitution party than Libertarian. And I don’t blame libertarians for being leary of the constitution as its full of contradictions! However the foundations of the document point to the idea that our rights are our own, we don’t recieve them from other human’s who think they are elite above us and therefore have a god-given right to rule! That’s why Americans left Britain-because the ruling class inspite of reform laws continued to believe in rights granted by law rather than in-alienable rights celebrated in law.
I’m so confused.
The LP through its spokesperson, and former VP candidate, condemns Obama as a “socialist” in order to reach out to conservatives on conservative media, the essence of which is FOX news (apparently) and the FOX airs this, “Are social-conservatives socialists?”:
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4177200/are-social-conservatives-socialists/
This reminds me of that old adage, “Choose your enemies carefully for you will become like them.”
Andy Levy makes for a great interview subject.
Maybe we just haven’t found it, or maybe the person recording was just there to try to trip up Root and hoping for another “gotcha” moment, or maybe there was a problem with the taping equipment — there could be lots of reasons.
Maybe the person taping the event was paid by Root to only tape Root, or maybe it was taped by the Grand Poobah of the Wayne Root Cult of Personality and Johnson was of no interest as he lacks a dynamic persona.
Maybe we just haven’t found it, or maybe the person recording was just there to try to trip up Root and hoping for another “gotcha” moment, or maybe there was a problem with the taping equipment — there could be lots of reasons.
Try asking some of the northern Nevada libertarians who were likely to have been there.
I think it’s really strange that Johnson’s speech hasn’t shown up, although I haven’t actually looked for it. Did he say something wrong? Or did he pale in comparison to Wayne’s “charisma”? Hmmm…
The term “anchor babies” is beyond offensive.
MHW @39 Exactly!
Also, anchor babies really aren’t an issue. Children born in the US are deported all the time with their families. Not always, certainly, but the idea that having a child in the US means that you have a free pass to legally stay is ridiculous. It is not the law nor is it common current practice.
I should have said “We Can NOT open it up to anyone to walk in. ”
No different with my house. I have a right to protect my home and property. The USA should have the right to offer some protection to its border from those who are not citizens.
Why, because the regime is the legitimate property owner of the whole country?
So, where is the rest of Johnson’s speech? he’s the one I would like to hear!
Same here. I would expect it to be somewhere on youtube. Has anyone looked? The video was linked on a facebook group called Comstock Libertarians.
One of the problems with all of this is that there is a tension between being a pundit and being a campaign official. Pundits and op-ed writers are (at least theoretically) supposed to say what their opinions are on the issues. Campaign or party officials are supposed to say what is in the best interests of their campaign. The two tasks are sometimes in opposition to one another.
I’m hard pressed to think of a campaign or party official from one of the two major parties who is also a regular columnist or TV pundit. When they write op/eds or appear on TV they are there specifically to present the viewpoint of and promote their party or candidate. Wayne does not seem to have figured out that he can’t have it both ways.
This is why I’m pretty sure he won’t run for VP this year, and if the column-writing business takes off for him he won’t run for President (or anything else) in the future. He’d have to give up a lucrative source of income, and if there is anything consisent about Wayne Root’s career and writings it’s that his income is pretty much paramount for him.
re KK @ 34 & 35
One of the many problems I have with the border issue is that I have never figured out how to have free trade without the free movement of labor to work in that trade and that means across those imaginary lines.
Then there is the issue of discrimination that comes with borders in our modern world. A wealthy person can put their money into mutual funds and invest that capital all over the world in markets without worrying about borders. Unfortunately a peasant whose capital is in their back and hands cannot do the same, thus financial capital of the well off flows easily across borders while physical capital of the less well off is stopped at the borders.
And while we complain about anchor babies we need to remember that there are plenty of subsidies handed out the bankers who move financial capital around the world every day.
So, where is the rest of Johnson’s speech? he’s the one I would like to hear!
BTW, if Johnson wants to energize the LP base for his campaign, he will support somebody for VP that has strong libertarian credibility. My guess is that since he can’t name his own running mate, he’ll just keep quiet and let the convention make its choice. That’s probably the best strategy, anyway.
If Gary Johnson really drafts Wayne Root for vice-president, I will puke. Gary Johnson has a message of libertarian thinking with personal economical freedom and libertarian thinking of social issues but, if he aligns with the Fox News “conservative message” but with a real “1776” thinking it will doom the Libertarian Party how it’s constructed. The GOP is “Center-Right” and now the LP is “Right”. The LP stood for “Alternative” but it’s no longer.
@35,
“The USA should have the right to offer some protection to its border from those who are not citizens.”
Fuckin’ a skippy! Just like the Tot Lot Posse and the local chapter of the Crips have the right to draw THEIR imaginary lines across Cincinnati and dictate who can cross them and for what purpose, right?
Again, old fingers. I should have said “We Can NOT open it up to anyone to walk in. ”
No different with my house. I have a right to protect my home and property. The USA should have the right to offer some protection to its border from those who are not citizens. Something for goodness sakes. Again, turn off the welfare faucet and that would be a good start.
I can’t resist. This is a country of laws and borders. We can just open it up to anyone to walk in. We have to end the welfare mentality (including the dreaded corporatisim) first. I do agree with GJ2012 that we need to find ways to make it easier to get legal work visas.
Word is that Wayne will speak on the Cunningham Show in Cincinnati on Tuesday, April 17. The show is being pre-empted this week, due to coverage of Reds baseball and the fact that Willie has a television show he is working on . April 17 12:30 pm Eastern Daylight, Tuesday.
zapper @ 31: ‘ Libertarianism is not “conservative,” it does not need to be re-created, and it cannot survive being recreated by Wayne Root.’
Thank you! Very well said.
@ 30
Nice post. I especially agree with this part:
“I’m not a “Ronald Reagan” Libertarian (if there even is such a thing), nor, by the definition above am I a “Common Sense Libertarian” (I DO believe in the “too many things that are too Liberal” as required to be consistent with our Principles — which, slowly over time WILL win. That is the beacon on a hill, the hope for mankind stuff, at least in IMO.”
Yes, Wayne may need to lead off with ideas that appeal to his audience, and yes it may be a conservative, Tea Party type audience, but he needs to do so in a way consistent with Libertarian principles and he needs to gradually incorporate that “liberal” side stuff that he seems to be afraid of such as: Ending the War on Drugs, Ending the US foreign empire and foreign wars, repeal of victimless crime laws etc. And if he wants to point out that these things save money in addition to moving in the direction of liberty, no problem.
Sure, he might sound crazy to try to cram all of these things into a single appearance or a short time frame, but he needs to understand and represent libertarianism in a balanced way.
Libertarianism is not “conservative,” it does not need to be re-created, and it cannot survive being recreated by Wayne Root.
@29
I’m tempted to agree with your advice to Wayne. He’s always kind and I like him personally. I even felt a bit of regret about some of what I’ve posted here and, at his request have seriously reconsidered it and his request to post how I “know his heart is in the right place.”
You’re correct about the video above. I’d like to see more of that too.
And I’ve been going back rereading his posts, his websites, listening to interviews, especially those on the Bill Cunningham show, and . . . my reluctant, but consistent conclusion is that he’s just not a spokesman for the LP. He does more harm than good in educating others (especially conservatives) about Liberty. He does an excellent job of educating a TEA party perspective.
I think this is the best summation of what Wayne is doing:
https://independentpoliticalreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/tn.pdf
“I’m kind-of recreating Libertarianism. I’m not just going to follow the traditional roots. I’m a Ronald Reagan Libertarian. Traditional Libertarianism mixes in too many things that are Liberal. That is why it doesn’t work. It needs to blend with conservatism. And where’s that today? The TEA Party! And that’s why it’s working. I’ve been trying to bring this party along, and it’s beginning to happen.”
I’m not a “Ronald Reagan” Libertarian (if there even is such a thing), nor, by the definition above am I a “Common Sense Libertarian” (I DO believe in the “too many things that are too Liberal” as required to be consistent with our Principles — which, slowly over time WILL win. That is the beacon on a hill, the hope for mankind stuff, at least in IMO.
BTW: If you want to listen to Wayne, to discern for yourself if he’s mostly a spokesperson for the LP, or for something else, listen to a dozen or so of these:
http://www.700wlw.com/cc-common/podcast/single_page.html?podcast=bill_cunningham
where Wayne is listed as a guest. I just find myself screaming at the radio:
BILL: So Wayne, how can we solve these problems.
(Me — GREAT HERE IS WHERE WAYNE WILL SAY — VOTE LIBERTARIAN, educate yourself about LIBERTY, Something like Stossel did/does . . .)
WAYNE: . . .
(I don’t remember exactly what Wayne said, it varied so listen for yourself see if the word libertarian was never mentioned as a solution to anything.)
One more major concern, and then I will end with praise for something substantial that I thought he did right.
While he’s introduced as the Libertarian VP from 2008, and as a member of the LNC (or LNCC), we promotes http://www.rootforamerica.com as the link to find out more, AND THERE’s NO LINK THERE TO THE LP website. Noting about the Libertarian Party that would help people join, or vote for Libertarians.
If you’re selling yourself as an expert from the LP, and then link to resources other than the LP, isn’t that “bait and switch?”
Maybe it’s an oversight. Another minor slip. I don’t know, but I doubt it. It’s consistent with a plan to remake the party in a “mix of libertarian and conservative” ideas that he’s been open about as his plan/agenda.
BUT one thing I though WAS well done is his issues page. It was much better than I anticipated,
http://rootforamerica.com/Issues.html
Maybe I’m not enough of a purist myself (I’ve become moreso from about the moment Bob Barr and Wayne started their campaign in 2008), but I thought the above page on his website was very good.
Honesty here folks:
Wayne did a good job on this one.
Now, if this were the only thing Wayne Root had done no one could complain. So …
Wayne, you need to keep it up. One appearance at a time, one day at time, keep your mind focused and your maintain your loyalties to your offices representing the Libertarian Party.
You need to support the nominees of the LP, never endorse or support the nominees or candidates of other parties, and represent fairly the general principles that define being “Libertarian.”
There are other talking heads who manage to maintain a schedule of appearances where they appeal to their audiences and make popular pronouncements while wearing hats as officials of other parties, and while clearly maintaining their loyalties to their parties, so you can too.
27 jjm, right. Ending the welfare/entitlement state is not on the table. Almost always, policy change happens incrementally and generally is isolated to one major issue at a time.
Technically, “we” are not “all” immigrants…I, for ex., am native born. Your point that our ancestors were once immigrants is true enough.
Grandiosity generally doesn’t play in politics. Liberalizing immigration and unwinding the welfare state are great issues for Ls. Completely open borders and an immediate to the welfare state…not so much.
I just heard Gary speak on immigration over the weekend, he doesn’t believe everyone should come across the border and become a citizen, he believes it should be easier for them to come over and get a work visa if they like.
Which is reasonable, the problem you guys seem to have with immigration is that we live in a welfare/entitlement state, so your solution should be to get rid of the welfare/entitlement state, unless your name is Navajo Joe we were all immigrants at one time or another.
“The reason we have a process for citizenship is too educate would-be citizens on the value of the constitution and what it means for understanding true liberty.”
The problem with this is that the majority of natural born Americans are ignorant when it comes to knowing anything about the Constitution or liberty.
A natural born population with a majority of it not understanding anything about the Constitution or liberty combined with a bunch of foreigners who don’t know anything about these things is a recipe for disaster, and this is the situation that we are in right now.
Root and Cunningham are two of the reasons why the LP will never be taken seriously by anyone with a brain. Jumping to the LP would have been a good move for Johnson had he not jumped right into the arms of WAR. Pity. At one time I was a huge Johnson fan…now he’s just a wasted vote. NONE OF THE ABOVE 2012
# 23
Ask Mr. Johnson on his next Town Hall Meeting.
I want Gary to clarify what he wants to do with the border situation! I’ve recently read articles (and hoepfuly they are hyperbolic hit peices) stating that Gary Johnson believes in open borders! I’ve heard him state similar amnesty policies to the Bushes and McCain, and I disagree with those policies. But I never heard him say we need open borders because our constitutional liberty becomes dilluded and nill if any person can walk into our nation and claim citizenship! The reason we have a process for citizenship is too educate would-be citizens on the value of the constitution and what it means for understanding true liberty. If we allow people to live in America, they may come here seeking liberty and a better life, but will easily be swindled into class-warfare rhetoric and accepting hand-outs from would-be tyrrants! This is already an issue with youth being educated to hate the founding fathers of our nation, having open borders is a disaster for the soverieingty of the US and its Constitution! I want Gary to clarify this before I waste a vote on him!
I like Wayne Allen Root, but I can’t believe he could’nt stand up for First Amendment rights on Bill Cunningham’s show when arguing against Rick Santorum! The free birth control wishes of one individual don’t trump the first amendment! In fact, don’t take my rights to private wealth in order to pay for someone’s birth control even if I’m an aethiest! That’s unconstitutional stand alone, but ad to the fact I might be a Catholic and I’m forced to pay for someone else’s habbits? Its a no-brainer issue for any Libertarian I would have thought, but Wayne couldn’t stand up for these basic constitutional issues the way Santorum had been doing non-stop since the Sandra Fluke case! Wayne Allen Root is no longer credible to me as a Libertarian after his latest Cunningham shows!
I could be wrong but Wayne said on Cunningham’s show a week or two ago that Gary should run in 2016 and that we need to stand behind Romney! Does Wayne have two mouths? Are there two Wayne Allen Roots? Comn’ this is rediculous!
@18
Hmmm..
Hope someone else comes forward with the evidence. I’d love to hear that one for myself! Or read a transcript….
Well said.
@10 – It was on local radio. I didn’t hear it, but a local radio host who is a Ron Paul Republican and personal friend did. It was right before the caucus and it talked up Romney’s economic record and dismissed Ron Paul because he couldn’t win. Establishment GOP talking points on the race. At the time, I looked for the archives, but wasn’t willing to pay a subscription fee to hear WAR stick his right foot in his Libertarian mouth – again.
In Liberty, with Eternal Vigilance,
Jim Duensing
http://www.VoteForAChange.US
R4L @ 15: I find it quite odd, also, that Mr. Johnson’s portion isn’t there. Very strange indeed.
I think I did see the other portion somewhere on facebook. I don’t have a link handy tho.
Is there more of this video with the Gary Johnson portion? Why would the NVLP cut out the most important part?
Looking forward to it!
I am being told that Wayne is going to be on Cunningham’s show on Friday this week. WLW 700 am 50,000 watt powerhouse clear frequency station from Cincinnati, Ohio. Or get in online via the interweb.
I thought the speech was fine. Again, lets see how it goes on the radio this Friday.
Others among you have target audiences for drug legalization, same sex marriage, and other civil liberties issues. And you should absolutely talk to those strengths of the party.
Amen!
WAR’s editorial today in the Washington Times:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/apr/9/the-greatest-nation-on-earth/
Make of it what you will. I have difficulty squaring the intro of GJ with recent comments and what I believe is implied in this editorial.
Now, how does flip flopper WAR square this speech with his badmouthing of Ron Paul and encouragement of Republicans to vote Romney right before the Nevada Caucuses??
I missed that.
When/where exactly? Is it on tape or in writing?
I for one (and apparently the only one) thought it was a fantastic introduction, and a great concession to everyone that has been complaining (myself included) about his previous appearance on the Bill Cunningham show.
Something the Libertarian Party has been great at for far too long is talking ourselves out of converts. People are usually interested in specific issues, some on the social liberties side, others on the economic liberties side.
Wayne’s target audience is quite obviously the economic liberties side, and we should be commending him for reaching out to these people. If he were to go on Fox News or Bill Cunningham and start talking about drug legalization or same sex marriage, he would lose the audience. Instead, he goes on and talks about less small business regulations and economic reform, which are exactly what his target audience wants to hear.
Others among you have target audiences for drug legalization, same sex marriage, and other civil liberties issues. And you should absolutely talk to those strengths of the party. But we need to stop this in fighting against Wayne and others because they have a different demographic appeal, or because they don’t talk about ALL of the Libertarian issues. Principle over party is one thing, but attracting voters, whether they are “pure” Libertarians or not, should count for something. Isn’t that point of us being a political party? To get our people elected into office? To make real change in the world? To ensure a future for out children and our children’s children?
Root sure looks dynamic wearing that Santorum sweater vest. He really works the look with the white oxford shoes.
what everybody else said..
Wow, I want my time back.
I cannot recall the last time I heard WAR discussing real libertarian issues. (drug legalization, non-aggression, school choice)
Wow, I just wasted 12 minutes of my life watching this. So, Wayne is supposed to be introducing Mr. Johnson, yet he seizes the opportunity to pretend he didn’t say what he said last weekend. I’m surprised no one in the audience objected; I would have.
Well, it’s working on my I-Phone.
I think the video is defective now. Both on Facebook and now here, it runs for a few seconds, then shuts down. Is anyone else having that problem?
Wow, he already has the whole radio show speech written out for him – word for word. He still tells a conservative audience – in very carefully worded language – that Romney is better than Obama, but that he is going to vote for Gary Johnson. Obama is ultra liberal, Romney is just liberal. Now, how does flip flopper WAR square this speech with his badmouthing of Ron Paul and encouragement of Republicans to vote Romney right before the Nevada Caucuses?? Should they not have voted Romney to beat Obama then? Or is he just upset he got caught? I can’t believe any actual libertarians fall for the act of this trained seal bouncing a ball on his nose.
In Liberty, with Eternal Vigilance,
Jim Duensing