Libertarian Party of Nevada Responds to Accusations of Treasurer Kurt Brackob Being A Sex Offender

The following is what the Libertarian Party of Nevada (LPN) concluded after investigating their Romanian born treasurer, Kurt Brackob, who was charged as a sex offender in Romania. 

Per the State of Nevada, Kurt Brackob is not on any registered sex offender list. Due to the results of this investigation it was determined that Kurt Brackob is not a sex offender and that there was no need to make any statements on the matter as they would be a violation of his privacy. However, since Kurt is being attacked for political gain we are now choosing to release our findings.

Libertarian Party of Nevada: Internal investigation of Kurt Brackob.

Kurt Brackob previously went by the name Kurt Treptow. He lived in Romania for over a decade prior to serving over 4 years in maximum security prison there. He is a prominent historian with a PhD in history from University of Illinois and was a Director at the Foundation for Romanian Culture and Studies. He was a Fulbright scholar and was appointed to the Fulbright commission for Romania in 2002. He authored many books on Romanian history.

Kurt was involved in politics in Romania, as he is today in the United States, and had associations with top level political figures. As an American involved in Romanian politics Kurt was disliked by Romanian politicians with ties to communism.

On September 11th 2002, Kurt was arrested in Romania while returning home from the United States. Initially the media was reporting very extreme allegations of child pornography, claiming the existence of pictures and videos that showed Kurt engaged in criminal sexual activities. None of this evidence was accepted by the court, and the case was headed towards dismissal.

Then the Judge on the case was removed, and she was sentenced to community service. A new judge was picked by the prosecution and new charges were brought against Kurt. The trial was closed to the public. In December of 2002 Kurt was sentenced to 7 years incarceration, but was released in February of 2007 after serving over 4 years.

The offenses he was charged with involve sexual acts with two girls whose reported ages are conflicting. Some sources say ages 10 and 13, while others say 9 and 14. He was reported to have an accomplice an adult female, Tatiana Popovici, who brought the girls to him. It is reported that during the trial the lawyers representing Kurt and his alleged accomplice continuously tried to shift the blame between their clients, a legal strategy designed to further incriminate them both. The media also reported that Kurt and Tatiana were in a romantic relationship. Kurt was involved with his current wife at that time. She remained with him, figuratively speaking, throughout this case and subsequent incarceration. Kurt’s wife was not the alleged accomplice.

The media reports on this case are so wild and so contradictory it very difficult to decipher the facts. There are no comprehensive stories on the case from any reputable news sources. There are some brief articles found in the BBC and the Washington Times but they are just translations and regurgitation of stories from Romania. There was no in depth English language coverage of this case. There was no in depth coverage in any language for that matter, only tabloid style journalism. There are even some articles that tell stories of Kurt and Tatiana living in Italy after being released from prison during a time when Kurt was verifiably living in the United States with his wife. These Romanian news sources have no credibility whatsoever.

Kurt was certainly financially able to provide for his own legal defense but instead he was forced to be represented by a government appointed attorney. He was not permitted to speak on his own behalf.

This method of legal justice would never withstand the scrutiny of the public in the United States. There is no resemblance of due process. The driving forces behind the prosecution were Kurt’s political adversaries and they controlled all aspects of his trial including what statements were made on his behalf.

Another disturbing fact is that these types of charges were brought against many individuals involved in Romanian politics. In one case the accused escaped Romania and found refuge in Sweden. The Swedish government refused the Romanian extradition request on the grounds that the charges were false and politically motivated. In a nation known for human trafficking, the Romanian government would have the world believe that the only sexual criminal activity in their country is perpetrated by opponents of the ruling political party.

The Libertarian Party of Nevada has received no complaints whatsoever about Kurt’s behavior. We hired a third party (non-LPN funds) to do a criminal background check and Kurt has no criminal history in the United States, not even a traffic violation. We enlisted the help of translators to assist us in deciphering the Romanian articles and to determine the facts of this case. Contrary to what these false news articles would have you believe, none of the translators had heard of this case and most of them were former Romanian citizens. We asked the translators upon completion of this investigation what their opinion was on the matter. None of them believed that Kurt actually committed those crimes. They all said it appeared to be politically motivated.

Kurt fought for liberty and was victimized by a tyrannical government. He paid a price that hopefully none of us will ever have to, and he continues to fight even after all that has happened to him.

Kurt did not seek the position of Treasurer himself. He was asked to fill a vacancy because he had assisted the previous Treasurer. As a member of the party Kurt was not required to disclose any details of his personal history. At that time Kurt had already demonstrated he was a very valuable member of the party and there was a large amount of pressure put on him to fill the vacancy as it was the general consensus among the executive committee that he was the obvious choice.

Our final determination on this matter is that Kurt Brackob is an upstanding individual. He has conducted himself with honor as Treasurer of the Libertarian Party of Nevada and continues to have the full faith and confidence of the executive committee.

 

180 thoughts on “Libertarian Party of Nevada Responds to Accusations of Treasurer Kurt Brackob Being A Sex Offender

  1. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    Even if he is innocent, why the fuck would anyone vote for him to be treasurer of the LPN? Where there no other candidates running without such a controversial background and these kind of charges being made against him?

  2. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    Plus, from what I’ve read, the LPN leadership under the chairman is corrupt to the core, I wouldn’t trust them with investigating one of their own.

  3. Smart Alex

    It’s too bad Kurt had to experience 5 years of imprisonment at the hands of the Rumanian government but that stuff is still on the internet. I don’t think he should be treasurer because it looks bad for the lp.

  4. Elmer Whittaker

    A nicely put together story. Unfortunately, without any supporting evidence. Given my experience with the LPN Executive Community and its Chairman Jospeh P. Silvestri, I can give absolutely no credibility to any statements made by them including webmaster Fillipo Di Noto.

    It is easy to do an internet search on Kurt Brackob aka Kurt Treptow and find his entries on sex offender lists throughout the country. That the online records of Kurt Brackob have suddenly been sealed/disappeared from the State of Nevada Sex Offender website, gives rise to great concern.

    Having been a past victim of malicious prosecution with fabricated cases even in this country myself, I like to give the defender/victim an enormous benefit of doubt that even extends to convicted individuals.

    Unfortunately, I suspect much greater implications than meets to eye here.

  5. Jill Pyeatt

    I find the records are still there. All you need to do is google his name.

    I also find it curious that Mr. Smith’s letter wasn’t answered. Wouldn’t it have been in the LP Nevada’s best interest to keep this quiet, and handle it internally? The questions asked in Mr. Smith’s letter were very valid.

  6. Sam Kress

    @9

    See LP Nevada facebook group

    Look for posts and comments from LP Nevada official webmaster Fil DiNoto.

  7. George Phillies

    @10 Thank you very much.

    “In a statement appearing on the LP Nevada facebook page INSERT LINK HERE a person identifying himself as WHOEVER issued a statement represented as being the official statement of the state party….

  8. Alan Pyeatt

    “However, since Kurt is being attacked for political gain we are now choosing to release our findings.”

    Who is attacking Kurt for political gain, and what would that be? Is there any evidence to support this statement?

  9. Alan Pyeatt

    “This method of legal justice would never withstand the scrutiny of the public in the United States.”

    Leonard Peltier says, “Hi!”

  10. paulie

    GP:

    We received it in an email from LP Nevada webmaster Fil DiNoto. It is a genuine communication from LP Nevada. It’s been shared with all IPR writers.

    Alan:

    Who is attacking Kurt for political gain, and what would that be? Is there any evidence to support this statement?

    See https://independentpoliticalreport.com/2013/03/whats-going-on-now-with-the-libertarian-party-of-nevada

    I am not saying that I agree that it is an attack for political gain, only what the allegation is.

    ?This method of legal justice would never withstand the scrutiny of the public in the United States.?

    Leonard Peltier says, ?Hi!?

    Valid point!

  11. VegasSwede

    Why did it take so much time for LP Nevada to respond to this letter from Mr. Smith? NO EXC– USES. It is clear that they knew of this and had looked into it much earlier so a response could have been given quickly. This is a black-eye for LP Nevada and the Chairman should be issuing all of us an apology by now.

  12. Sam Kress

    Maybe they hoped it wouldn’t come out, although that would have been foolish.

  13. VegasSwede

    Molon @19: Didn’t Joe Silvestri (or his ghost writer in the above statement) state in a few different phrases that Kurt was not registered or known as a sex offender? Seems like this link is easy evidence to the contrary. I wonder if the EXComm will respond to this or continue to refuse comment to anyone on any matter?

  14. Sam Kress

    Is that an official government sex offenders registry, or a site that posts anyone with a criminal conviction?

  15. VegasSwede

    The official Nevada site states:
    “A search of the Statewide Registry has not produced any information that is available to the public through the Statewide Registry.”

    When entering other unusual names, the sate site shows nothing at all. At least it responded with a comment when entering his name. Makes you think a bit, but the other site listed is not an official government site but a site where you can subscribe and receive notices on offenders living in or moving into your community.

  16. Sam Kress

    Posted by David Colborne on the other thread:

    I would like to take a moment to address the first and most serious misstatement of fact (or, colloquially, baldfaced lie) in the official statement from the LPNV:

    Per the State of Nevada, Kurt Brackob is not on any registered sex offender list.

    This is factually and demonstrably incorrect, and a quick search of the Nevada Sexual Offender Registry (located here – http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/) will quickly reveal the truth of the situation. In Nevada, Tier 2 and Tier 3 offenders (both are of the serious “touched children in inappropriate places, perhaps violently” variety; Tier 3 offenders are believed to have a high risk to re-offend, while Tier 2 offenders are considered less likely to re-offend) are listed in the Nevada Sexual Offender Registry listed above. However, due to various privacy concerns, the public does not have a right to access to all records in the Registry above. There are two particular cases where Nevada may choose to seal off an offender’s record:

    1. The information listed by the State may lead to positive identification of one or more of the victims involved.
    2. Harassment of the offender.

    When a record is present but not available to the public, the Registry returns the following result:

    The search of the statewide registry has not produced information that is available to the public through the statewide registry.

    Conversely, if the person isn’t listed at all, the Registry returns the following result:

    No offender listed in the statewide registry matches the information provided by the requester concerning the identity or location of the subject of the search

    Now, if you search for “Kurt Brackob”, you will get the second result – the Registry will return that there is nobody listed by that name. That’s because “Kurt” is actually Mr. Brackob’s middle name. He is currently filed under “August Kurt Brackob”, as several Google searches can easily confirm. If you search for “August Brackob”, or just “Brackob” in the Last Name field, you get the first result – that there is a record for that individual but that it is not available to the public.

    So, how can we confirm that “August Kurt Brackob” is the same person as “Kurt Brackob”? Well, there are two ways to accommodate that:

    1. Search before the record was sealed and confirm via mugshot. This, as I understand it, was the procedure employed before Silvestri was notified, and was also the procedure employed by the various Registry reflectors that people have been posting via trivial Google searches.
    2. Search by the home address of Kurt Brackob and confirm that there is a record present for that address.

    Since I don’t have access to Kurt’s home address (nor do I want it), I cannot positively identify whether or not there is a sealed record present for that address in the Registry. I’m sure one of Kurt’s friends can confirm or deny upon their own volition, however.

    Lest I lead anything to implication or suggestion, I will explicitly confirm that Kurt’s record was not sealed off from public access until after Joe Silvestri was notified of Kurt’s prior conviction.

  17. Steve M

    http://www.nvsexoffenders.gov/

    Warning:

    Under the provisions of state law and as further defined by the State Attorney General, this information is provided for general public safety. A person is authorized to use this information only to protect him/herself or a child who may be at risk. The release of this information to the public is meant to assure public protection, not to punish the offender. It is illegal to use information obtained through this web site to commit a crime against a registered sex offender or to engage in discrimination or harassment against a registered sex offender. Anyone who uses this information to commit a criminal act against another person is subject to criminal prosecution and/or civil action.

  18. Sam Kress

    Thanks!

    Was someone threatening to commit a crime against Brackob, or why do you bring that up?

  19. Steve M

    It is illegal to use information obtained through this web site to …. or to engage in discrimination or harassment against a registered sex offender.

    Read it again Sam….

    or to engage in discrimination or harassment

    to be doing so on a public blog is very foolish.

  20. Jill Pyeatt

    “or to engage in discrimination or harassment

    to be doing so on a public blog is very foolish”

    Give it a rest, Steve. We are discussing a very serious situation here. We are not harrassing Kurt.

  21. Sam Kress

    There’s no harassment here, and there’s no “right” to be a leader of a political party. This has nothing to do with illegal discrimination. You are barking up the wrong tree.

  22. Sam Kress

    Yeah Jill, no kidding, right?

    Wow. He seriously wants us to believe that convicted sex offenders are being harassed or discriminated against if someone suggests they should not be party officers?

    Seriously?

  23. Steve M

    At least one person used the Nevada government website to gather information and did so in violation of the stated purpose of that government website….Yes this could be quite serious for that individual. Criminal prosecution or civil prosecution.

    If others have gone up and done the searches they could be caught up in this as well.

    I was just trying to caution you all about what you are doing. If you don’t care about the consequences then keep going.

  24. Steve M

    NRS?179B.270??Restrictions on use of information.??Except as otherwise authorized pursuant to specific statute, a person shall not use information obtained from the community notification website for any purpose related to any of the following:

    1.??Insurance, including health insurance.

    2.??Loans.

    3.??Credit.

    4.??Employment.

    5.??Education, scholarships or fellowships.

    6.??Housing or accommodations.

    7.??Benefits, privileges or services provided by any business establishment.

    (Added to NRS by 2005, 2867)

    NRS?179B.280??Misuse of information: Civil liabilities.??Any person who uses information obtained from the community notification website in violation of the provisions of NRS 179B.250 or 179B.270 is liable:

    1.??In a civil action brought by or on behalf of a person injured by the violation, for damages, attorney’s fees and costs incurred as the result of the violation; and

    2.??In a civil action brought in the name of the State of Nevada by the Attorney General, for a civil penalty not to exceed $25,000 and for the costs of the action, including investigative costs and attorney’s fees.

    (Added to NRS by 2005, 2868)

    NRS?179B.285??Criminal penalties for using information to commit crime.??In addition to any civil liability provided pursuant to NRS 179B.280, if any person uses information obtained from the community notification website to commit a crime punishable as:

    1.??A misdemeanor, the person is guilty of a gross misdemeanor.

    2.??A gross misdemeanor, the person is guilty of a category E felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

    (Added to NRS by 2007, 2754)

    NRS?179B.290??Misuse of information: Attorney General may file action for injunctive relief.

    1.??If there is reasonable cause to believe that a person or group of persons has engaged in or is about to engage in any act or practice, or any pattern of acts or practices, which involves the use of information obtained from the community notification website and which violates any provision of this section, NRS 179B.250, 179B.270 or 179B.280, the Attorney General may file an action for injunctive relief in the appropriate district court to prevent the occurrence or continuance of that act or practice or pattern of acts or practices.

    2.??An injunction pursuant to this section:

    (a)?May be issued without proof of actual damage sustained by any person; and

    (b)?Does not preclude or affect the availability of any other remedy including, without limitation, the criminal prosecution of a violator or the filing or maintenance of a civil action for damages or a civil penalty pursuant to NRS 179B.280.

    (Added to NRS by 2005, 2868)

    LIMITATIONS ON LIABILITY AND THE DISCLOSURE OF INFORMATION

    NRS?179B.300??Prohibition on disclosing name of victim; immunity for Central Repository and law enforcement agencies.

    1.??Information in the statewide registry, including information in the community notification website, that is accessed or disclosed pursuant to the provisions of this chapter must not reveal the name of an individual victim of an offense.

    2.??The Central Repository and its officers and employees are immune from criminal or civil liability for an act or omission relating to information obtained, maintained or disclosed pursuant to the provisions of this chapter, including, but not limited to, an act or omission relating to:

    (a)?The accuracy of information in the statewide registry; or

    (b)?The disclosure of or the failure to disclose information in the statewide registry.

    3.??A law enforcement agency and its officers and employees are immune from criminal or civil liability for an act or omission relating to information obtained pursuant to the provisions of this chapter, including, but not limited to, an act or omission relating to:

    (a)?The accuracy of information obtained from the statewide registry; or

    (b)?The disclosure of or the failure to disclose information obtained from the statewide registry.

    (Added to NRS by 1997, 1647; A 2005, 2870)

  25. Sam Kress

    Read what you yourself posted:

    1.??Insurance, including health insurance.

    2.??Loans.

    3.??Credit.

    4.??Employment.

    5.??Education, scholarships or fellowships.

    6.??Housing or accommodations.

    7.??Benefits, privileges or services provided by any business establishment.

    Which of these applies here?

    Answer: NONE of these.

    DOH!

  26. Steve M

    try what Sam? to caution people that they may be sued by the state of Nevada up to $25,000 or face a misdemeanor charge?

    I am just suggesting a bit of caution in what you are doing… But by all means if you must go right ahead.

  27. Jill Pyeatt

    Steve, do you think I’m some bored housewife with no sense? I wouldn’t purposely cause harm to someone. I am discussing a very serious situation regarding public information. Please go harrass someone else.

    There are half a dozen lawyers who frequent this site, some of whom I think might caution me if I’m really out of line. So, thanks for your caution, Steve, but any more talk about this is unwanted.

  28. Jill Pyeatt

    I know he sticks up for Tom Stevens on the PA threads. Maybe he just likes sticking for for people he thinks are being picked on.

    Oddly, some of the people in the PA threads say terrible things and call Tom terrible names, but Steve doesn’t tell them they’re harrassing anyone. I’m thinking it’s an April Fool’s thing for us.

  29. Sam Kress

    Well, Stevens is not a convicted sex offender (as far as we know) so it’s not a crime to harass him. It’s just crass. But he can people things like “pig fuck” and “Jew nigger” and it’s OK because he was provoked.

    I think that’s Steve M’s “logic” as best I can interpret.

  30. Steve M

    That is the point Jill… that information isn’t public. It is released with stipulations of how it is to be used. Miss use it at your own risk.

    If you feel harassed by my bring up the stipulations then imagine what someone might feel about your miss using this information? The difference of course is that you won’t have much of a legal case against me…. the offender and the state of Nevada might have a better case….

    but go ahead….

  31. Steve M

    Not at all Jill… I think this is all just nasty mudslinging politics… look at the timing… just before the state conventions….

    I want good quality ethical leadership in the Libertarian party…. And all I have seen here in the last week or two is the party doing its best to shoot itself in the foot.

    But that isn’t why I posted the warning…. I actually posted the warning to prevent people from doing something blatantly foolish that could have real economic repercussions.

  32. Steve M

    you didn’t read the whole law sam you looked at only part of it. But for legal advise go talk to a lawyer. Or not I couldn’t care.

  33. Sam Kress

    The only one being blatantly foolish is you.

    And ethical leadership….Stevens and Silvestri?

    You really are a troll.

  34. David Colborne

    I posted an explanation regarding under what circumstances Kurt’s registry record might be sealed, thus explaining why the official statement from the LPNV starts off with a blatant lie; I also posted it here, but it would appear the spam filter ate it (not surprising since I copied & pasted).

    Now, on to the actual substance of the article…

    It’s possible they’re right. I don’t know enough about Romanian journalism or Romanian jurisprudence to have an intelligent opinion one way or another. I also don’t know Kurt at all – he might be an incredibly nice, diligent, decent guy. No idea one way or another. What I do know is that, yet again, Joe Silvestri, when faced with a reasonable inquiry (“Hey, why is our Treasurer showing up as a sexual predator on Google?”) responded with silence. Then more silence. Then still more silence, until one of the inquiries became public. Then, miraculously, an “investigation” appears that clears up his trusted lieutenant’s name.

    So, in short, because our Chair is unwilling to communicate with his fellow members, his Treasurer’s name was (possibly needlessly, who knows?) dragged through the mud and the Libertarian Party of Nevada suffers yet another black eye. This isn’t leadership. This is ridiculous! His refusal to communicate is harming friend and foe alike.

    It’s time for a change.

  35. Jill Pyeatt

    Nothing is in the spam filter now. I try to keep an eye on it, but if anyone ever has something you think is caught there, just let me know and I’ll fix it.

  36. Jill Pyeatt

    I don’t understand it, either. Jason’s questions to Joe were perfectly reasonable. This whole situation could have, and should have, been handled discreetly. We had something similar come up in CA a few years ago. It was most unpleasant, but I believe we reached a satisfactory solution. Those of us on the EX Com took a lot of heat for keeping our pedophile scandal quiet, but it was the appropriate thing to do.

  37. David Colborne

    @52: Thanks.

    @55: Exactly. It could have been handled discreetly. It should have been handled discreetly. There were ample opportunities and time to do so. Yet, when faced with a reasonable opportunity to do just that, Joe Silvestri decided his political career was better served by letting a new, dedicated member that was willing to take the thankless job of Treasurer get his name dragged through the mud on various public forums. It’s ridiculous.

  38. From Der Sidelines

    The unspoken and unanswered question about all of this is who in LPNV leadership (or the unreasonable facsimile thereof) knew what about this and when. That includes the now-departed WAR.

    There also was a comment @4 about finding the name on “sex offender lists throughout the country.” It might be nice to post links to those lists instead of relying on innuendo.

    That being said, LPNV would be smart to learn from its neighbors to the west and not have a sex offender in a leadership position where their presence can lead to PR damage for LPNV or even civil liability.

  39. Jill Pyeatt

    I wondered about Wayne’s knowledge of this, too. For all my criticism of him, I do believe he is a good dad. I can’t imagine he would have allowed this, if he’d known of this.

  40. Filippo Di Noto

    Kurt Brackob was not born in Romania. He is a natural born US citizen. I’m not sure why that was added. It was not part of the document that I submitted.

  41. Filippo Di Noto

    We are well aware there is a great deal of incriminating text. It took us a long time to come to our conclusion. If you intend to find the truth on your own it will take more than a few Google searches.

    I would have to say that the key to reaching the truth in this is by paying attention to the inconsistencies found in all of the articles. Many of the articles don’t even have the correct details of what he was accused of.

    We cannot deny he was convicted and served time, that is fact. The charges he was convicted of involved the 2 underage girls, nothing else. I’m not stating that as if to say that is okay. I am stating it because it is an important fact to keep in mind when researching this.

    When we first started this investigation I couldn’t grasp how in the initial accusations it was stated in the media that there were videos and pictures of Kurt involved in criminal sexual activity. Yet the charges did not stick? Video and photo evidence was not enough to get a conviction? Impossible. The evidence never existed to begin with.

    They boggled their first attempt to frame him because they made the accusations too extreme and then could not back them up.

    They had to make a second attempt, with a second judge, and new charges which were more believable and relied on testimony rather than hard evidence.

    That was the realization that initially began to sway my opinion in Kurt’s favor and was backed up by further research.

  42. Filippo Di Noto

    @55

    The time stamp on the email which was sent to the LPN executive committee by Jason Smith was:

    Date: March 28, 2013, 3:18:06 PM PDT

    not even 24 hours before it was then “anonymously” posted to IPR

    This supposed 2 week time frame is a complete fabrication.

  43. Filippo Di Noto

    @62 I retract my statement, the email said they made phone calls to Joe and I cannot verify that

  44. LibertarianGirl

    how the hell does someone get their records sealed like thaT? he been around kids and in pics and really acts like he aint worried at all.

    His alleged victims arent at risk for being uncovered , and there is no harassment…soooo??

    i can think of one other way , a way where he doesnt need to comply with offender protocol, a way that would also explain getting out of prison early , a reason that would make sense of the “political prisoner- agitator” story ( hs office was in the romanian intelligence building….)

    i aint even sayin it , i dont believe it but damn it makes smebody wonder

  45. Revfatsax

    Fil, my letter is not the first letter to joe about this, he was told over two weeks ago and he ignored it…or didn’t respond. My email to the excom was to get an answer, and I didn’t “leak” anything, maybe someone on the email list (all members of the current excom) isn’t comfortable with joes leadership and leaked it?

  46. David Colborne

    LG: If you hunt down some of the Romanian news articles on the case, some of them include a picture of one of the victims (the teenager). In fact, one of the articles I stumbled across showed her naked. I’m guessing Romanian laws are VERY different from our own regarding such things.

    Fil: Joe was called and e-mailed regarding this weeks ago.

    As I said earlier, none of us know enough to know what the true story behind all of this really is. All we know is Joe was presented with unsettling allegations regarding our Treasurer, he looked into them, and then he kept the results of his investigation from everyone. Fil, if you’re being told that Jason’s email a couple of nights ago was the first time anyone heard about any of this, then Joe kept it from you too.

  47. LibertarianGirl

    contacting the LPN about it , then leaking it makes no sense, why not just leak it ?? Fil , I think you need to do some hard thinking. I look forward to you making the transistion 🙂 and thanks for all that you do

    Debra Payne-Dedmon
    LPNevada Vice Chair /2years
    LPNevada At Large & S. Reg. Rep
    LPNevada Judicial Committee

    2 time candidate for State Ass. 13
    1 time candidate for County Comm.

    LPCC Vice Chair/Corr. Sec
    4 time delegate to LPNational

    ( I only gave my creds cause fil dont know me from squat)

  48. paulie

    Didn’t Fil say on facebook that Brett knew about this months, not just weeks, ago? What are the details on that?

  49. Rev fatsax

    Months? Brett didnt “uncover” anything months ago, it was brought to his attention by someone who found his mugshot on a sexual predator registery….which was subsequently removed from public view….but screenshots of the blatant lie exist somewhere. Brett said he didnt want this to hurt the lp, so he gave the info as a gift of goodwill to joe, assuming joe would do the right thing. Turns out, we were wrong about joe caring more about the party than his political roundtable. Hey, whatever, joe paterno had his legacy ruined for not doing the right thing…joe silvestri doesnt learn from history…this is on him now.

  50. Sam Kress

    Say what you want about Wayne Root, I have seen zero evidence that he knew anything about this. Wayne Root has been long gone, he is not the problem now, Silvestri still is though.

  51. Sam Kress

    LG

    Those are not government sex offender registries.

    However, David Colborne did uncover some additional info, if you scroll up and read the thread you will see what I mean.

  52. Jill Pyeatt

    Fil, do you have an explanation of why Joe chose not to address this in a manner that could have kept this quiet?

  53. Heidi Walker

    All the fighting, finger pointing, and negative energy that is being spent by people interested or involved in the Lpn is beyond ridiculous! For a party to succeed you must unite. You will not find another person more qualified and dedicated to the cause than Kurt. Must I remind you this is America not Romainia. He poses no threat and the Lpn only stands to become stronger, more powerful, and more successful with Kurt involved.

  54. Revfatsax

    I will not unite behind someone too cowardly to answer questions. Hiding behind an attorney and expecting the excom to protect him is NOT acting dedicated to the cause. He has damaged the liberty movement with his selfish actions. I still don’t have answers from the excom. As long as he is n the excom, the current excom is quiet…and the evidence is dismissed without being addressed, the lpn is effectively shut down. This IS america, so use your first amendment and address my questions. And again, you are his sister, your assurances of his not being a threat carry no weight…your kids aren’t the ones being tricked into being in contact with a convicted sex offender.

  55. Heidi Walker

    I am not defending him as a sister, I am just simply stating fact. With all the hatred and accusations you spend your time on any party that you would be associated with surely will not succeed if your behavior continues. How are any children possibly in danger because of Kurt being treasurer? All I tried to do hear was bring a voice of reason and unity to a group of people that are supposedly united for a cause…….you are right though I to am being looked down upon because I am his sister and to belligerent people like yourself nothing I say will make a difference so I am done commenting here. My brother is not even aware I have done so just for the record……he has fought harder battles than this in his life, he is resilient….he’ll be fine and all your children will be safe!

  56. David Colborne

    Hyperbole aside, Heidi, I trust you. You’re probably right – he may pose no danger to anybody’s children. He is undoubtedly quite qualified for the role he is currently installed in.

    He’s also a convicted sex offender. Right or wrong, innocent or guilty, he is a convicted sex offender.

    I’m sorry, Heidi, but that’s an automatic disqualification from anything resembling a public office this day and age. I’m not saying Kurt needs to be removed from the Party – I’m just saying that, at a bare minimum, he needs to be away from the public eye. Getting his picture taken in front of an LP Nevada banner next to our State Chair in front of a bunch of children’s toys while being a convicted sexual offender does not sound like the behavior or judgment of someone with the LP Nevada’s best interests in mind.

    At this point, I would have been happier if he stayed at home for the Lillie Claire event and put together a MLK Jr. Shootout instead.

  57. Chuck Moulton

    Even if he did commit these alleged acts (which is far from certain given that country’s judicial system), it’s hard to imagine of a better position than treasurer as far as allowing someone to volunteer while limiting interaction with children. Keeping the books of an organization is a pretty introverted job.

  58. Heidi Walker

    I understand completely. Thank you for helping fully understand the situation at hand. I apologize for getting overly involved, but I was quite shocked at how people were firing things back and forth. You are a voice of reason and common sense. Glad your handling this. I appreciate your time and wish you the best. I again apologize, I myself should have been better informed before I made some of my comments.

  59. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    David, I agree with you 100%. Him being a sex offender mars the party’s image and automatically disqualifies him from the position.

    Good luck to your candidates and slate, BTW. And if you see Cody Quirk, say hi to him for me 🙂 I am collaborating with him on his blog, ITPNV, which it looks like you’ve contributed to in the past.

  60. David Colborne

    @85: Ordinarily I would agree. Ordinarily, there wouldn’t be a picture of our Treasurer next to our Chair, who was dressed as Santa Claus, at a children’s fundraiser surrounded by Christmas presents. That colors my opinion of the situation somewhat.

    @87: I will! I’m hoping to have time to start contributing after the LP Nevada State Convention. As you’ve probably gathered by now, the current situation is consuming far too much time right now.

  61. David Colborne

    @86: He’s your brother. I understand your position completely. If it were my brother in Kurt’s position, I’d be an emotional wreck and respond accordingly.

  62. Jill Pyeatt

    This is certainly unpleasant subject matter, but no one is being uncivil here. This is a genuine situation that has arisen that needs to be settled. I’m not a member of the LPN, so I won’t be concerned with figuring out what to do, but I am an activist for the Libertarian Party and I do want to keep our brand as clean as possible. The resolution here may be that Kurt simply doesn’t get his picture taken in a situation involving kids. Even though someone was able to get his name removed from the Nevada sex registry (which proves something already has been accomplished), Kurt’s name is in the internet as a convicted sex offender, and that will most likely stay that way for a while.

    There isn’t nasty name-calling or mud-slinging, though. People are expressing their disappointiment with Joe Silvestri, but when he signed up as chairman of the state LP, he effectively agreed to handle situations like this that come up.

    If this had happened in my state and my state chair had ignored inquiries like those in Jason Smith’s letter, I’d be furious. Kevin Takenaga, CA’s chair, tackled our pedophile sitch as soon as he knew about it.

  63. Jill Pyeatt

    Heidi’s input was important. It’s good to know that she stands by her brother. I have one brother that I would stand by, whose ethics would not be questioned by hardly anyone. Another brother…not so much. That’s just the reality.

    Heidi, I’m sure this is upsetting to you and your family, but really, we’re just trying to address the problem and figure out how to handle it. He’s welcome to come here and talk to us, but he doesn’t have to if he’s not comfortable, also.

  64. Libertariangirl

    chuck , he may only be Treasurer but he works with several childrens charities and brings the LP and them together. plus it isntasbout will he molest another child , it is about what our opponents and detractors will do to us if he stays in a power position. we will be annihilated. its already a hotbed topic for us. the work all of us have done is more important than utilizing kurts skills or not hurting his feelings

  65. Libertariangirl

    Heidi Walker // Mar 30, 2013 at 6:00 pm “All the fighting, finger pointing, and negative energy that is being spent by people interested or involved in the Lpn is beyond ridiculous!”

    me_ its been two days hardly an onslaught

    HW_ For a party to succeed you must unite.
    me_ can you tell that to kurt and the LPN who havedone everythin g possible to not unite and purged many good people

    HW_You will not find another person more qualified and dedicated to the cause than Kurt.
    me_ tim hagan

    H_ Must I remind you this is America not Romainia. He poses no threat and the Lpn only stands to become stronger, more powerful, and more successful with Kurt involved.

    Me_hes a threat to every candidate that may run for the LPN .How do we defend this in the arena of were already hated and get no media.

  66. Steve M

    So just suppose….. if Kurt had been working for improved liberties in Romania and a repressive government had framed him, convicted him in a kangaroo court and imprisoned him in a system ….. Would you all still want to throw him under the bus?

    If you would how would this effect the concept of the Libertarian Party being the Party of Principle? Maybe we would need a new slogan… the Party of Principle until it was more convenient too toss you under the bus?

    Lots of fun reading over at Amnesty international from this time period…

    http://www.amnesty.org/en/region/romania?page=10

  67. Smart Alex

    Your being a complete jerk Steve. If you can’t contribute anything worthwhile, go do something else.

  68. Rev fatsax

    Steve, just suppose all the stars didnt align, and he really IS a sex offender, and he takes advantage of a disabled kid who cant defend him or herself…how would you spin this to make it our fault? He was convicted, we are not idiots, nor are we vindictive…we are just not comfortable with the exposure to kids and scrutiny…he can be a libertarian, but he shouldnt be the face of the party.

  69. Filippo Di Noto

    Jill, I cannot comment as to why Joe did not respond as I have not seen Joe in over 2 weeks because he is on vacation with his kids. I will ask him about it when I see him. I have tried to call him but it’s going straight to voice mail. He is camping and may not have reception.

    I know Brett Pojunis has known about this since at least March 10th. Which interestingly enough is the exact same time that the article out of Romania entitled “We found Treptow” was published.

    Let me verify a few things for you all. Yes, Kurt Brackob’s full name is August Kurt Brackob. His name at birth was William Kurt Treptow. He has gone by his middle name his entire life.

    Yes, at one point in time Kurt was on the Nevada Sex Offender Registry. That is why he can still be found on 3rd party, non-official websites which are very slow at updating their records.

    Now that we have cleared that up lets use a little logic. If Kurt had actually committed these crimes he would have been prosecuted by a federal court upon returning to the United States, but he was not.

    So, at some point when he was back in the United States after suffering such terrible circumstances in Romania someone in the Nevada government discovered Kurt’s history and moved to force him to be listed on the sex offender registry.

    So now, Kurt is no longer on the sex offender registry, this is fact. Previous comments in this thread state that the the Nevada Sex Offender Registry is listing his records as “sealed” are completely false. Please look for yourselves don’t believe this as it is being stated by someone who has personal interest in seeing Kurt humiliated.

    What are the possible reasons that someone could be removed completely from such a registry? Someone suggested Joe Silvestri had the records sealed. Thanks I had a great laugh at that one. I didn’t know Joe was such a powerful man.

    The only logical reason I can think of is that a Federal court ordered him removed from the list. Why? Because a state government has no jurisdiction to prosecute someone for crimes committed abroad. Kurt’s rights were violated, plain and simple, by the State of Nevada.

    It is a federal crime for a US citizen to engage in illegal sexual activities in another country. If there were ANY validity to the charges Kurt would have been prosecuted immediately upon re-entry to the United States.

    News articles are not facts. Facts can only be discovered by agencies with the authority to look at evidence. Such agencies with proper jurisdiction have looked at this case and found nothing.

    So please take this into consideration before you speak publicly and spread false information.

  70. LibertarianGirl

    Kurt_ If Kurt had actually committed these crimes he would have been prosecuted by a federal court upon returning to the United States, but he was not.

    me_ um , no we dont prosecute people for crimes not under our jurisdiction, and we wouldnt try him twice for the same thing

    he WAS arrested by metro when he returned to vegas, prob just a walk thru to faciliate getting him registered and for the probation after prison

  71. Jill Pyeatt

    Again, Mr. Di Noto, this could have been kept quiet if Kurt or his attorney or Joe Silvestri had chosen to answer the inquiries from Jason Smith.

    And, with all due respect, are you an attorney? What you say doesn’t sound entirely correct to me. I’m not aware that our country would have tried him for a crime that occurred in another country, after the sentence had been served in that other country.

    I had more than one source, and knew that these questions had been asked a couple weeks earlier. What a shame they weren’t handled privately. I’m sure other IPR writers received the leaked letter, but I just happened to take the time to post the article first. I didn’t put Kurt’s name in the title because I didn’t want the thing to do too much damage, actually–just our community here at IPR. I don’t think the info has gone much further than that, with the exception of some Facebook conversations.

  72. Steve M

    Jill yes the US has laws against sex tourism.

    USC › Title 18 › Part I › Chapter 117 › § 2423

    18 USC § 2423 – Transportation of minors

    (c) Engaging in Illicit Sexual Conduct in Foreign Places.— Any United States citizen or alien admitted for permanent residence who travels in foreign commerce, and engages in any illicit sexual conduct with another person shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 30 years, or both.

  73. Steve M

    Oh and IPR claims not to be a little community

    IPR’s viewership is steady, with over 6 million pageviews and 2.1 million unique views.

  74. Filippo Di Noto

    @103 & 104

    Yes when it comes to sex crimes the US will prosecute you for acts commited outside the US.

    And in this type of situation double jeopardy does not apply.

    He was never arrested in the US. He complied with the State of Nevada under threat of imprisonment. If he had been arrested it would have come up on the criminal background check we had done on him.

  75. Columbo

    @102, you say that “Facts can only be discovered by agencies with the authority to look at evidence.”

    But in the article it says the LPN hired translators “to determine the facts of this case. ” It sounds like they just read the same articles we all can read on the internet and then gave their opinions about it. Is that all they did to determine the “facts” of the case?

    If that’s all it takes to overturn a guilty verdict, then theres about to be a lot of happy people in prison! Translators are about to be in high demand!

    How thorough was this “investigation” conducted by the Nevada party?

    *Did it examine the evidence from the case?

    *How did it get the evidence?

    *Was it’s goal to balance justice for the underage girls vs. justice for the accused, or did the accused have a home court advantage?

    *Did the underage girls get to testify in this investigation by the LPN?

    A lot of children have been hurt by adults being naive and ignoring things they don’t want to deal with.

  76. Columbo

    I think it is awfully interesting that theres no statement in the article where Kurt denies that he did it.

    If somebody has been wrongly accused, isn’t that the first thing they want to say?

    One of the articles said he had admitted to the Romanian authorities that he had sex with one of the girls but just didn’t know she was only 13…uh-huh…

    So if he admitted it, then is he an upstanding individual with the full backing of the Nevada party?

  77. Jill Pyeatt

    I also find it interesting that Kurt has never said to us that he never did it. It’s nice that one of his friends (Fil) and his sister support him. It just seems to me that he might wish to issue a statement himself or through his lawyer. If he chooses not to. that’s certainly his right, but that’s certainly not going to stop speculation on our part.

  78. Columbo

    When the Nevada party asked him to be their Treasurer, did he warn thim that he had this thing lurking in his background that could really damage the party’s reputation?

    Did he give you a chance to decide if you wanted to be associated with that sort of ugliness?

    Or did you learn it from someone else after the damage was done, and it was all over the internet, with pictures of the party logo in articles about pedophiles?

    If he is such a decent person, why didn’t he give you the courtesy of warning you about this in advance?

  79. Chuck Moulton

    Paulie,

    I’m surprised you are pushing this issue vigorously with the rest of the angry mob.

    I read the following in your own public biography:

    Growing up in the epicenter of the 1980s crack cocaine explosion in NYC, Paulie got caught up in the available business ventures

    There is a clear wink wink, nudge nudge inference about a previous occupation of yours in that sentence. In other IPR threads you have admitted to serving jail time for fraud due to petitioning indiscretions many years ago.

    Both of those issues are potentially embarrassing for the LP. By your own logic is it a good idea for you to be on the Libertarian National Committee? I get the sense this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

    Personally I have no problem with you on the LNC. I think you’ve learned from your mistakes and you’re a better person for it. I think you’re a great activist and your positives far outweigh your negatives. I’m not worried about the media or the Republicans or the Democrats using your past to generate bad publicity for the Libertarian Party.

    Over my years involved with the LP I’ve run into several activists who have confided some deep dark secret about their past. Some were worried their skeletons would make them bad candidates or an albatross to the LP. But when they ran for office, invariably it never came up in the media.

    I have one LP leader friend who told me the Republicans called up his boss repeatedly asking that he be fired, pointing out he was a convicted felon. The Republicans wanted to mess with his life because he was extremely competent as an LP leader (one of the most productive activists I’ve ever met). They were unsuccessful for the very same reason: he was never fired because he was extremely competent at his day job.

    I agree that someone’s past is fair game as a factor deciding who to vote for and I agree that Kurt having his picture taken “in front of an LP Nevada banner next to our State Chair in front of a bunch of children’s toys while being a convicted sexual offender” (DC @84) was a very poor choice. But I disagree that bad life decisions in the past (or worse: the perception of bad life decisions when the person turns out to be innocent) should be treated akin to leprosy.

    I wouldn’t vote for Kurt (if I lived in Nevada) because Tim Hagan is clearly the better candidate for treasurer. I’m not going to join the witch hunt though.

  80. paulie

    I’m surprised you are pushing this issue vigorously with the rest of the angry mob.

    I’m not part of any angry mob. I’m open to the possibility that he was wrongly convicted, or is a changed man, or any number of explanations. I just don’t assume those to be the case.

    Both of those issues are potentially embarrassing for the LP. By your own logic is it a good idea for you to be on the Libertarian National Committee?

    It was probably not a good idea, but it has not been an issue yet. If it becomes one I will resign. As it is, I don’t plan to run again and don’t think I used good judgment in running in the first place, but at this point I still plan to finish my term since it was a commitment I made. That could change. I have other reasons I want to resign, too. If my past becomes an issue, that would pretty quickly push the balance towards resignation.

    I’m not hiding my past and the matter was discussed on blogs years ago, so there are plenty of people who are aware of it. If they haven’t made an issue of it I won’t make it one, but if they do I’ll happily resign.

    I think you’ve learned from your mistakes and you’re a better person for it.

    Thank you. I’d like to think so, too.

    I think you’re a great activist and your positives far outweigh your negatives.

    I’m not sure you are correct. I don’t think I’m getting anything useful accomplished on the LNC, and I am way over my head financially if I keep going to in person meetings. By next year I want to reassess whether 8 years of trying to push the national party in the direction I want it to go in have yielded any observable results that could be tied directly to my efforts. At this time I am guessing the answer is no. If my past is made an issue before that it will just move up the decision timeframe on that.

    I’m not worried about the media or the Republicans or the Democrats using your past to generate bad publicity for the Libertarian Party.

    I don’t expect that they will, but if they did I would resign. Or, more likely, if my intraparty political opponents or personal enemies make it an issue that LNC starts wasting time on, I will also resign. I have no problem doing that. It’s pretty easy to knock me off the LNC if someone wants to do that.

    Over my years involved with the LP I’ve run into several activists who have confided some deep dark secret about their past. Some were worried their skeletons would make them bad candidates or an albatross to the LP.

    That’s one of several reasons I never run for government office.

    But when they ran for office, invariably it never came up in the media.

    Most of you have exceeded the speed limit many, many times. You don’t usually get caught, do you? I’ll bet a lot of you have at various points in your life used illegal drugs, petty shoplifted, etc. The vast majority of times you do not get caught. When I was a career criminal, I got away with it most of the time. Except when I didn’t.

    I agree that someone’s past is fair game as a factor deciding who to vote for and I agree that Kurt having his picture taken “in front of an LP Nevada banner next to our State Chair in front of a bunch of children’s toys while being a convicted sexual offender” (DC @84) was a very poor choice.

    I think that’s all people are saying here.

    But I disagree that bad life decisions in the past (or worse: the perception of bad life decisions when the person turns out to be innocent) should be treated akin to leprosy.

    And I agree with you. I don’t think he should be shunned. But I do think the matter should be taken seriously and not swept under the rug.

    I wouldn’t vote for Kurt (if I lived in Nevada) because Tim Hagan is clearly the better candidate for treasurer. I’m not going to join the witch hunt though.

    I am not on a witch hunt. I’ve clearly said that
    I haven’t made up my mind about the facts of the case. My interest is more in how the controversy is being handled by the LPN Exec Comm.

  81. paulie

    “Columbo” at 108, 109 and 111 makes many good points, but:

    One of the articles said he had admitted to the Romanian authorities that he had sex with one of the girls but just didn’t know she was only 13…uh-huh…

    That actually does happen, the uh-huh notwithstanding.

    Many teen girls dress up provocatively, lie about their age, and some do pass off as being older than they are. Some are actually sex workers. Even at 13.

    It’s not necessarily a case of an innocent girl being abused, even if the incident actually happened, although it may have been.

  82. Steve M

    Having fun with google translate…. but this popped out of one story.. http://adevarul.ro/news/societate/kurt-treptow-fost-ofiter-legatura-ambasadei-sua-judetul-iasi-1_50ad67fe7c42d5a663948b47/index.html

    The lawyer also claimed that the file is not evidence to incriminate Kurt Treptow. “What’s up, some floppy disks, CDs, cassettes and a high-performance computer, the latest generation, the United States. Iasi police tried to enter the files there and could not. And it was sent to all the Bucharest “.

  83. Heidi Walker

    @102 Kurt’ s full birth name is :
    Kurt William Treptow

    I think when you have been labeled in a way that you can never seem to live down, even if there was concrete proof of innocence, you would still always be judge and scrutinized and doubted about an incident such as what is being discussed.

    I personally would want to prove my abilities and competence first, in hopes of having a chance to succeed in my position and put past charges of such magnatued behind me….I mean how do you move forward in life after such allegations……the fact that he didn’t give up on what he believes in and fights for that says a lot about his character. Although the highly publicized pictures was not a wise choice and that did make the situation worse for everyone……..I get that. But I know Kurt and I do not believe it was anything more than a bad choice….he is human….we all have made mistakes.

  84. David Colborne

    @102: Once more I must correct the record. If Kurt was no longer listed on the Nevada Sex Offender Registry (e.g. if the State reconsidered his status and reduced him to a Tier 1 offender or something), a search for his name would give the following result:

    The search of the statewide registry has not produced information that is available to the public through the statewide registry

    I will further note that nobody is claiming that Joe Silvestri is empowered to remove Kurt or anyone else from the Registry. At worst, we’re noting that, in the same way you noted there’s an “interesting coincidence” between an article in a Romanian article being published and Brett discovering Kurt’s listing in the Registry, there is an “interesting coincidence” between Silvestri being notified of Kurt’s status and Kurt’s Registry listing being marked “unavailable to the public”.

    I will note, once again, that it’s really immaterial either way. Guilty or innocent, a registered sex offender should avoid children’s charities like the plague. If they don’t, they should avoid cameras. If they don’t, they should avoid LP Nevada placards. If they don’t, they should avoid standing next to our Chair. If they don’t, they should really make sure the Chair isn’t in a Santa outfit and surrounded by children’s presents.

  85. David Colborne

    Damn it – my phone ate half of the post above. I meant that, if he wasn’t listed, it would provide the following result:

    No offender listed in the statewide registry matches the information provided by the requester concerning the identity or location of the subject of the search

    The result in my prior post is the one you get when you search for “Treptow” or “Brackob” in the Registry.

  86. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    Chuck, whatever not so good things Paulie may have done in the past are pale in comparison with someone being a child molester. By my book, that’s one of the most heinous crimes out there.

  87. Thomas L. Knapp

    The key question is not — or at least shouldn’t be — “could this be embarrassing for the Nevada LP?” for two reasons:

    1) If you’re not willing to stand up for an innocent victim even if doing so is embarrassing, you shouldn’t claim to have principles; and

    2) if LPN was ever for a minute worried about being publicly embarrassed, they wouldn’t have gone within a million miles of Wayne Allyn Root.

    The important question is “is the guy an innocent political victim, or is he a pedophile.”

    That question doesn’t need to be answered beyond reasonable doubt, but it does need to be answered.

    If he’s an innocent political victim, then LPN should grow some balls and stand with him, not discard him as soon as the association becomes embarrassing.

    If he’s a pedophile, then LPN should dissociate from him whether “outsiders” ever notice it or not. Not because the association would be embarrassing, but because he’s an aggressor.

  88. Jill Pyeatt

    Chuck Moulton @ 113: I’m sorry you see this as a witch hunt.

    With all the time you spend in your state to spread the message of the Libertarian Party, do you not see that a photo of a convicted pedophile at a children’s event might cause a problem for the state party? All hysteria aside, is there really much more to this than that? No one is calling for a lynching, firing, or public shame. The call was for the state executive committee to show some leadership over it. I’d be surprised if you would completely ignore the situation if it was your state. Your choice may very well have been to stand by your treasurer, but I don’t think that ignoring the situation completely, which is what it looked like to Jason Smith, the writer of the letter, would have been acceptable to most Libertarians.

  89. Columbo

    We should also ask why there seem to be conflicting defenses. Is it:

    1) The Romanian government framed him to get rid of a political enemy.

    2) He did it, but thought the 13 year old was an adult. Easier for a 15 or 16 yr old to look like an adult, but a bit of a stretch for a 13 yr old. And if the rare 13 yr old who can pull it off as an adult comes with a 9 year old side kick, that’s hard to ignore. Some of the other alleged victims were even younger.

    Get the story straight. Conflicting defenses really don’t help credibility.

    Or there is the third defense in this article and this thread, that he isn’t actually in the sex offender registry, so maybe this material was faked by political enemies in Nevada. Don’t confuse this defense with defense #1 even though both are in the same article. They have a similar theme but the alleged bad guys are different.

    @102 is hinting that maybe one of the most recent articles was fake because it came out right before it was discovered by someone. Of course newer news stories are more likely to show up in a search. But if there are 25 older stories with the allegations, why would anyone need to add one more new one to the pile? One fake article would be stupid unless they all were fake. Are you suggesting this is a conspiracy thought up years ago? Or that the Washington Times, BBC, and Wikipedia were all recently hacked? How long has this guy even been involved with the party for anyone to know they needed to scheme against him?

  90. paulie

    I think the people here who have been defending Kurt have been pretty consistent in saying that he was framed by the Romanian government. I don’t think anyone has said that people in Nevada fabricated the story. They are saying that he is not in the sex offender registry, which is supposed to bolster the case that the Romanian charges are questionable.

    The defense that he did it but she fooled him into thinking she was of age is a separate one that was used in the trial, but has not been used here. It is sometimes possible for some 13 year olds to pass off as adults. Having a 9 year old with her doesn’t say anything about how old she is herself.

  91. Andy

    Paulie said: “I don’t think I’m getting anything useful accomplished on the LNC, and I am way over my head financially if I keep going to in person meetings.”

    You are an LNC Alternate. There really isn’t much of a reason for you to go to LNC meetings if the regular region rep for your region is there.

    “By next year I want to reassess whether 8 years of trying to push the national party in the direction I want it to go in have yielded any observable results that could be tied directly to my efforts. At this time I am guessing the answer is no. If my past is made an issue before that it will just move up the decision timeframe on that.”

    Perhaps instead of trying to “push” the LNC in a certain direction, you should lead by example. You could start your own thing, perhaps at the state or local party level, or perhaps through a PAC or some other type of organization, and if it is successful, other people, including the LNC, will follow.

  92. Jill Pyeatt

    I’ve read the EU report at 114, and it doesn’t appear that Kurt says does he didn’t commit the crimes he was imprisoned for.

  93. David Colborne

    I’m not going to begin to speculate on what the EU report may or may not mean.

    @122: I have no problem standing up for my principles provided I am granted an opportunity to decide if I’m going to stand up for them or not. Unfortunately, Kurt (to the best of our knowledge) never notified anyone regarding his status, or if he did, the people he notified chose to keep it to themselves and invite him to children’s charity fundraisers anyway. Either way, I have no problem standing up against the inherent injustice of sex offender registries, but I’d greatly prefer to fight on “ground of my own choosing”, not “ground that could only be more indefensible if Kurt dressed up as Santa Claus and had kids in his lap.”

  94. paulie

    Perhaps instead of trying to “push” the LNC in a certain direction, you should lead by example. You could start your own thing, perhaps at the state or local party level, or perhaps through a PAC or some other type of organization, and if it is successful, other people, including the LNC, will follow.

    I said party, not LNC. I’ve been trying to get people on board with various projects long before I was on the LNC. It didn’t work outside the LNC and hasn’t worked on the LNC either. I will keep plugging away for at least the next year and change until Columbus. After that we’ll see.

  95. paulie

    Paulie, don’t resign ever, and I’d like to see you on the LNC for a long time. Run for at-large when the next election for them is.

    Too costly and time consuming and I’m not getting enough (or, well, anything) accomplished.

  96. paulie

    Chuck, whatever not so good things Paulie may have done in the past are pale in comparison with someone being a child molester

    You shouldn’t make that assumption. It may or may not be true.

  97. Andy

    “paulie // Apr 1, 2013 at 9:10 am

    ‘Paulie, don’t resign ever, and I’d like to see you on the LNC for a long time. Run for at-large when the next election for them is. ‘

    Too costly and time consuming and I’m not getting enough (or, well, anything) accomplished.”

    You are only an alternate. You can’t even vote unless your region rep is not there. What did you expect to accomplish?

  98. Andy

    Paulie: “I said party, not LNC. I’ve been trying to get people on board with various projects long before I was on the LNC. It didn’t work outside the LNC and hasn’t worked on the LNC either. I will keep plugging away for at least the next year and change until Columbus. After that we’ll see.”

    The best thing to do if you want things done your way is to form your own organization. I’m not saying to form a new political party, but rather, form your own PAC or some other type of organization.

  99. Andy

    “136 paulie // Apr 1, 2013 at 9:39 am

    I can participate in all the discussions, and other people can introduce motions based on what I propose. For some of what I hoped to accomplish see ”

    This still relies on other people to do things. If you were a regular LNC member instead of an alternate, you could submit your proposals to a vote yourself.

    The best thing to do would be to find like minded individuals to agree to run together as a part of a slate.

  100. Romanian journalist

    Well, it’s easy! In Romania he was convicted after tapes and videos stored in his computer with Treptow having sex with homeless kids were discovered. Anyone can adress the Court from Iasi/ Romania. It was a political scandal but still he was not released only when his penalty was over. He was in jail in Romania and evan got abused by the inmates for being a pedo. So… no american investigation will be able to save him. Everything was on video…

  101. Mike McDonald

    Do you have this video of which you speak available to prove what you claim? Has any independent agency outside the Romanian court system reviewed it?

  102. Romanian journalist

    Yes Mike, those pics were made public at that time. I will try to obtain them and publish the material once more to make the story right for everyone. There were two girls(9 and 14 years old) and two boys(7 and 14 years old). There were videos and pictures with him involved in oral, anal and normal sex with them. Only some of the pics were made public with the kids faces covered of course. The videos I believe are for justice use only, but the american commision that investigated him could find this out with the help of the embassy… The connection with Treptow and the kids was made by a romanian hooker, that was his girlfriend

  103. Shave the Whales!

    The wikipedia article and the comments from Romanian Journalist don’t supply any information that was not already in the EU report, news article and google search results.

    Claims that photographic and video evidence exist remain unsubstantiated until someone produces verifiable documentation that such evidence actually exists and has been verified by someone other than Romanian authorities. And the claim that such evidence exists was already in evidence. Thus, we haven’t learned anything new here.

  104. Krzysztof Lesiak Post author

    For you lazy people, here is the Wikipedia article about Kurt Brackob / Treptow translated into English:

    “Kurt Treptow is a Romanian and American [1] sentenced in Romania for pedophilia. He graduated from the University of Arizona and arrived in Romania in 1994 , where he founded the Science Foundation “Center for Romanian Studies”, which aimed to promote Romanian history and culture in the world [2] . He taught for several years and Alexandru Ioan Cuza University of Iasi [2] . Kurt Treptow has published several works together with former president of CNSAS , George Onisoru , and history Buzatu [2] . In collaboration with the Institute of History “ADXenopol” , Iasi, in 1999 , has published several monographs on Romanian history [2] .
    In 2002 he was charged in March 2003 and was sentenced by the magistrates of Iasi to seven years in prison for sexual corruption, sexual perversion and child sexual acts with minors [2] . During the trial, prosecutors brought as evidence in court several films and photographs that appear in Treptow sexual positions with two daughters, 14 and 9 years [2] . In the file attached photographs were five other children, including two boys, aged 7 to 14 years, where they are normally and oral sex Treptow [2] . These were not considered evidence because there were no complaints from parents [2] . The process began after the parents of one of the girls, aged 7 years at that time, made ??a criminal complaint against Treptow [3] .
    He was released on parole on 28 February 2007 , with a reduction of sentence for publishing a book while in prison [2] .
    After his release, he went to Treptow United States, where he changed his name to Kurt Brackob August , and began to work in the Libertarian Party of Nevada , being elected treasurer. After he learned of his conviction in Romania, Libertarian Party published an article defending him, suggesting that the process which took part in Romania was flawed. [4] The outcome, however, is recognized as valid U.S. authorities and Brackob is on the public list of persons residing in Nevada, with record in sexual offenses. [5]”

  105. Shave the Whales!

    Citations 2 and 3 go to Romanian news articles, with Brackob’s defenders claim were “planted” news stories by defenders/allies of the Communists. Citation 4 is to this article, and Citation 5 is the independent website that stores old sex offender records, which has been linked here before; Brackob’s defenders claim the actual record that was based on has been wiped clean. These factual claims are all in dispute, and no new evidence has (at least yet) been introduced which was not available from the two stories and prior comments from before today.

  106. Heidi W

    Why is it so hard for everyone to believe that such a horrible atrocity was done to an American by some members of the Romanian government! He was involved with many leaders in Romania and dedicated years to preserving its history! He spent years there as the Romanian government continued to evolve. A country which assassinated its former leader and wife, yes he was there all the way back to when the communists where in power. After spending a few weeks back in America visiting family he returned to Romainia to discover his home and offices where torn apart and found himself in the middle of a complete nightmare where he was charged with these horrific false accusations. The Romanians had plenty of time to set this up! This is not some crazy story only reality!
    I was the first person to pick him up when he arrived back in America after his release. He spent a month with me and my 15 yr old daughter, who is now 22, I have no doubt, only reassurances of his innocence! He then moved in with his elderly grandma for several months to care for her, before he moved to try and reestablish his life. I have known him for 46 1/2 years. Stop persecuting him and move on!! Spend some time researching other atrocities the Romanian government has committed and do a little more research before you point your finger and judge! He should be allowed to work and live without facing anymore undeserved persecution from anyone out there!

  107. paulie

    Why is it so hard for everyone to believe that such a horrible atrocity was done to an American by some members of the Romanian government!

    It’s not necessarily hard to believe. It’s just that I wouldn’t make an assumption either way. Just because he was found guilty doesn’t mean he actually was guilty. And just because the Romanian government has framed some people doesn’t mean they necessarily framed him.

    Stop persecuting him and move on!

    No one is persecuting him. Some people are questioning whether the LP Nevada Exec Comm has really done due diligence in looking into the matter, but the thread was pretty dead until you revived it just now. In other words, at least for the moment, people did move on.

    Just as I wouldn’t assume he has to be innocent just because the alleged incident happened in Romania, I also won’t assume the alleged photos and videos exist, since I have seen no concrete proof (not that I would really want to see it).

  108. Daddyfatsax

    Great. Thanks Heidi. So now we can check Kurt’s sister and press secretary off the list of accountable people to the LPN. Nice to see such transparency from this group. My letter is still unanswered. Not one excomm member has posted here as well. Very believable. The issue isn’t whether your brother is a pedophile…it is that the Excomm does not respect or answer to the members of the Libertarian Party.

  109. Heidi W

    I feel he is being persecuted by some people on here, some have expressed their dislike of him due to this revelation, and due to this revelation it is being mentioned that he shouldn’t be in pictures should just lay low and stay behind the scenes while participating in the LPN. To me I feel that to be persecution, but I respect your feelings regarding the matter. As Americans we are all entitled to this right.

  110. paulie

    Very few of the people commenting here, myself included, know him, so it’s not possible to like or dislike him. Few if any here are in a position to evaluate whether he was actually wrongly convicted.

    But the fact of the matter is that he was convicted, even though it was in Romania, so it’s not the best idea for him to be photographed next to the LP chair in a santa suit and the LP logo at a toy drive.

  111. Heidi W

    Only people that have something to hid and are guilty should behave like that…innocent people don’t hide…they hold there head up high and move on with their life.

  112. Murray Hill

    It is a potentially very embarrassing thing for the LP, even if he was wrongly convicted, until and unless that is proven in a court of law or with some indisputable evidence.

  113. Heidi W

    You do know you have to go to the European courts to try and get the matter overturned……it can take many years……this has been In process for some time and is very costly. You worry about the party image but not the individuals in your party ? Without individuals there is no party. You better start background checking all your party members and due some weeding out then!

  114. NewFederalist

    “You better start background checking all your party members and due some weeding out then!”

    Good idea!

  115. Murray Hill

    You jump to some amazing conclusions. Read what I and others actually said. And for someone who says you want the matter to be allowed to rest, you are doing more to revive this thread and keep it alive than anyone. BTW I don’t want to be paranoid, but do you have any confirmation that

  116. Murray Hill

    ….you can provide that Kurt Backrob has a sister by that name and that you are her?

  117. Murray Hill

    Yes Mike, those pics were made public at that time. I will try to obtain them and publish the material once more to make the story right for everyone.

    Please let us know if and when you do.

  118. NewFederalist

    @159… perhaps but in the words of the immortal Robert Milnes… the LP should be purged like a bulmic!

  119. Heidi W

    Really @ 157 and @ 158? I’m done, don’t want to make anything worse for yes my brother!

  120. Murray Hill

    It’s a logical question to ask. I’m not presuming you are insincere, but this is after all the internet and anyone can claim to be someone with no proof. For all I know, Kurt doesn’t have a sister named Heidi, or he does and she has never heard of this website. But of course, maybe he does and maybe you are her. There’s just no way to tell.

  121. Romanian citizen

    At the time Kurt Treptow was charged and got convicted, Romania was apllying for NATO membership. The american authorities were all over the romanian government. You don’t have to be ignorant just because Romania was a comunist country. Those comunist leaders were very good friends with american presidents… just search the historical facts. Don’t you think it’s a little akward for a government to frame some unknown person(Treptow was little known in the academic life, he was not a public figure in Romania)? Especialy when Romania wanted to join NATO. And it did. If it was a fake trial, wasn’t your politicians involved? At this time the romanian govrnment is the same as it was back than. It’s the same political party, PSD. The american embassy can ask for those pictures and videos, but they won’t! Because they’ve seen it since than! Maybe you should ask your criminal governmen some details about Christopher Van Goethem… I’m sick how USA protects it’s criminals! Dear Heidi, you had a lot of courage to let your daughter with Treptow… But now… who knows… maybe she was a little bit to old for him

  122. Romanian citizen

    in the TV show his ex wife tells the story! he was selling porn videos with underage kids on illegal sites! his ex-wife has all the pics and videos also. soon Kurt your past shall be clear in USA also! good luck changing ur name again :-)) his bureau was a very small wooden house… it was the filming site

  123. Romanian citizen

    if it wasn’t the press, the Police in Iasi would have set him free, but the evidence and public pressure was so high they couldn’t help him. too bad you can’t understand everything is said in the TV show…

  124. Rod Stern

    Wow @ what? Romanian citizen/journalist has yet to introduce any new evidence that was not discussed from the beginning of the time the story was published here.

  125. Lucian

    What a load of bull. The guy was a fucking pedophile and he was rightfully convicted by a lenient justice system. He wasn’t represented by a “government appointed lawyer” but by a top notch attorney from Iasi (and friend of his), Liviu Bran. And after all, why would an innocent man, former political prisoner, change his name?

  126. Daddyfatsax

    (censored) pedophile (censored) (censored) (censored) (censored name) sex with children (censored) (censored) hooker. (censored) (censored name) (censored) small mouth, (censored) (censored) (censored) tickle party (censored) (censored).

    I hope he doesn’t have a problem with this…I tried to honor his “rights”…if by rights you mean privacy to (censored (censored) little children.

  127. paulie

    Thanks! Finally some evidence that we hadn’t been introduced to before in this discussion.

    I suppose the other side will claim the pictures were photoshopped, right?

  128. Jill Pyeatt

    It does seem like the picture with the girl on his lap is awfully damning.

  129. paulie

    He no longer has connection with Libertarian Party and the people that associated with him have been replaced.

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