More Talk of Jesse Ventura Libertarian Presidential Run

Re: Josh Tolley’s show

Breaking News: Jesse Ventura Willing to Run as “Libertarian” in 2016 Presidential Race

Fmr. Governor Jesse Ventura has been making waves as of late by floating the balloon of a bid for the White House in 2016, most recently claiming that his running mate should be Howard Stern.

One of the hurdles toward the Presidency for Ventura would be ballot access. Getting on the ballots in enough states to even make it possible to win has been a challenge for third party candidates. For decades the two party system has continued to hold the throat of the American people in a choke hold, muting the voice of The People.

On The Josh Tolley Show (10/22/13) Gov. Ventura told talk-show host Josh Tolley that if the Libertarian Party would grant him ballot access he would indeed be willing to run for President in 2016. This is the first time that the talk and speculation has been given an actual strategy which supporters of Ventra’s message are sure to be excited about.

Jesse continues to talk about being the first President to be elected without a party, yet this article is insisting he wants to be on the Libertarian ticket. Listen to what he says and make up your own minds.

Is it possible this is a disinformation campaign to discredit the Libertarian Party?

40 thoughts on “More Talk of Jesse Ventura Libertarian Presidential Run

  1. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I’m really starting to think this is a whole bunch of nonsense. I wish the National LP would make a statement and explain to Jesse that it’s unlikely that we’ll rush around to get ballot access for him in all 50 states, then beg him to be our candidate. And every time I hear mention of Howard Stern, I’m more convinced this is a big joke.

    It’s becoming obvious our party is a threat to the people in power. We should start being on the lookout for attacks, that’s all I’m saying.

  2. paulie

    it’s unlikely that we’ll rush around to get ballot access for him in all 50 states, then beg him to be our candidate.

    Not just unlikely, but impossible. Some states don’t allow substitution. Some require him to sign off as the candidate before we can even start petitioning. And some states like NY don’t even start petitioning until after our national convention.

    So, at some point he will have to pinch one out or get off the can. My guess is he will get off the can, but we’ll see.

  3. Andy

    The Libertarian Party already has ballot access in something like 30 states. The Libertarian Party – even when it screws up – regularly gets ballot access in most of the country anyway, and the party has achieved ballot access in all 50 states plus DC a few times in its history. If the Libertarian Party had a high profile candidate like Jesse Ventura, getting ballot access in all 50 states plus DC would be a slam dunk.

    I have a pretty favorable opinion of Jesse Ventura overall, but I’d like to make sure he has a firm grasp of libertarian philosophy before he runs for the presidential nomination. Maybe he should go to one of those programs at the Mises Institute or something like that before he runs.

    Regardless, if Libertarians are seeking publicity, and a bump in vote totals, I think that Jesse Ventura would deliver.

  4. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Paulie, perhaps National should communicate with him so he’ll stop saying this. I’ll write to Carla or Wes or Geoff or all three of them if you think that will help. I think this is really bad publicity for us.

  5. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    He needs to shut up about Howard Stern if he wants anything to do with us. He should be told that as well, I think.

  6. paulie

    Paulie, perhaps National should communicate with him so he’ll stop saying this. I’ll write to Carla or Wes or Geoff or all three of them if you think that will help. I think this is really bad publicity for us.

    I don’t think National can tell him what to do.

  7. Richard Winger

    I listened to the recording and he seemed to be saying that although he would like the ballot access that comes with being the Libertarian nominee, he doesn’t want the word “Libertarian” on the ballot next to his name. But that is impossible. If the Libertarian Party nominates him, he will have “Libertarian” on the ballot next to his name.

  8. Andy

    Jill Pyeatt said: “Jill Pyeatt Post authorOctober 22, 2013 at 3:34 pm
    He needs to shut up about Howard Stern if he wants anything to do with us. He should be told that as well, I think.”

    Why should he “shut up” about Howard Stern? First off all, he’s got a right to talk about him if he wants to do so, and second of all, Howard Stern is a very well known and successful media figure. Howard Stern has a huge following, plus he is worth $500 million (which puts him high up on the list of wealthy celebrities). Yeah, I know about Howard Stern’s flirtation with the Libertarian Party in New York back in 1994, and I know why that did not end up working out, but so what? Howard has expressed some Libertarian sentiment, so let’s hear what he has to say.

    And fyi, FCC regulations do not apply to Howard Sterns’ current radio show because he is on satellite radio which is not regulated by the FCC. This could have a huge impact for a candidate.

  9. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Someone can explain to him that it’s unlikely the LP is going to get ballot access for 50 states then have him come aboard as our candidate, with or without the LP name by it. I don’t know why so many people are talking about him being the LP candidate when he really doesn’t seem to be serious about it. At least, I don’t think so.

  10. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    Andy, you’re right. He can talk about Howard Stern if he wants to.

    Does anyone know if Stern is interested at all in being a candidate for us?

  11. Dave

    I don’t see Stern’s ego letting him be anyone but the top banana. At this point, he’s probably a bigger draw to the “average voter” than Ventura, given he’s on a popular television show and has his radio program. If he’s still on America’s got Talent I can’t imagine he’d run or be able to. But I don’t know when his contract runs out. Maybe he’ll pull a Trump and threaten to run unless NBC gives him more money. In which case, he has every reason to pretend to be open to the idea right now, only to shoot it down at the last minute.

  12. Bondurant

    Stern is a bad choice because he does not embrace liberty. Listen to his show. He supports funding Israel’s military, he supports the Clintons, Rudy Guiliani and Bloomberg. He is a staunch support of gun control.

    The LP base will not “grant” Jesse ballot access but he’s free to state his case at our nominating convention. I agree with those who believe he’s in this for the publicity. He wants all the rewards without doing any of the work.

  13. paulie

    I’ve been told by people that know him that his personal political views are more libertarian than those he expresses on his show. I don’t know if that is true, though.

  14. Steve M

    My take on this is great…. if Jesse and Howard or anyone else wants the Libertarian Party Nomination, then they should run around the country and meet as many Libertarians as they can. Get support at the State and even better county level and then show up at the National Convention and win the nomination.

    I want recognized candidates asking to be our candidate. I want to have our party to have to select from quality candidates. The more that run around and ask for our support the better.

  15. paulie

    Wonder of wonders. I agree with Steve M completely. However, to date it seems Ventura has no interest in doing that, he wants the LP to beg him to accept our ballot access. He may grace the national convention with his presence and may grudgingly accept, if he doesn’t have something better to do that day, but he doesn’t really want to do any work to get the nomination or help build the LP in return. I hope he changes that attitude, especially if he actually wants to be nominated. Otherwise, be prepared to spend $10 million to get on as an independent in every state. I doubt he would do that, and as rich as Howard Stern is, I don’t think he wants to blow that much money getting on the ballot either. Yes, he could do it, but that does not mean he would want to.

  16. Steve M

    ok, Paulie, while you are amendable to my position then push every one up to the above Story. What is going on in Virginia is amazing. If we can shake up politics at the Governor level this year and next and the congressional level then our Presidential Ticket has value is 2016.

  17. Andy

    “Jill Pyeatt Post authorOctober 22, 2013 at 3:53 pm
    Someone can explain to him that it’s unlikely the LP is going to get ballot access for 50 states then have him come aboard as our candidate, with or without the LP name by it. I don’t know why so many people are talking about him being the LP candidate when he really doesn’t seem to be serious about it. At least, I don’t think so.”

    The Libertarian Party could have had ballot access in all 50 states plus DC in 2004, 2008, and 2012. The truth of the matter is that the money and the manpower to make this happen were there, but certain people in LP management positions screwed it up each time (OK, except for ballot access in Michigan for Gary Johnson, this was a screw job over the “sore loser” law, so there was really no way around that once Johnson was the nominee).

    The LP is in a strong position right now to have ballot access in all 50 states plus DC by the 2016 election, unless of course people in LP management positions screw things up again like has happened in 2004-2012.

  18. Andy

    “Jed Ziggler (@JedZiggler) October 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm
    Oklahoma will be tough. 49 + DC is attainable. Oklahoma, doubtful.”

    Oh bullshit. The LP could have made it in Oklahoma for 2012. You obviously don’t know the real story of why they did not make the ballot. I do. I know damn well that it was because of LP mismanagement of the petition drive. I can give details.

    The Libertarian Party has made the ballot in Oklahoma several times in the past. It can be done again. Sure, it is not easy, but it is not an insurmountable task either.

  19. paulie

    I can confirm that Andy is correct about Oklahoma. I was also there the last time we got them on the ballot, in 2000. We (the LP – I wasn’t there, which was a symptom of the problem) came fairly close this last time but failed due to avoidable errors. They were also on the ballot in 1996, 1992 and 1980. I’d have to check on other years in between and before, but probably not.

  20. paulie

    In addition to demanding 50 state plus ballot access – which couldn’t possibly happen until late August at the earliest, well after the nomination, or without a candidate already picked – Ventura continues to demand debate access with the Democrats and Republicans before he agrees to run. However, it’s completely impossible for the LP to somehow magically give him 15% in an average of national polls order history papers source link essays management vs leadership http://bookclubofwashington.org/books/writing-a-research-paper-in-apa/14/ http://wnpv1440.com/teacher/masters-dissertation-methodology-structure/33/ click who writes articles free gcse chemistry coursework sample resume of heavy equipment operator civil war homework help interior design essay questions police officer essay propaganda essay topics newsletter examples murphy editing and writing services go thesis editing services johannesburg how to write julian date follow source sildenafil overdose pictures http://belltower.mtaloy.edu/studies/how-to-make-a-title-page-for-research-paper/20/ where to buy essay http://mcorchestra.org/2524-paper-writing-services-reviews/ personal statement services essay on anger and how to control it sample cover page for term paper stress paper tentative thesis chapter outline contemporary resume template microsoft word help with cover letter before he even becomes a candidate, which is the criterion for inclusion in those debates. If he keeps insisting on these conditions he can’t possibly be the nominee. And he wants the ballot access without the “burden” of the LP label. Sorry, Jesse, but you can’t have one without the other. Either commit to the LP and identifying with and building the brand, or find a way to come up with eight figures and some damn good lawyers and get on the ballot in every state as an independent.

    And that’s just for ballot access; tack on an extra zero or two if you want a real shot at those debates. Regardless of how much money he can come up with or raise, or what party if any he runs with, nothing in the world can get him total ballot access and debate access before he agrees to run. It just does not work that way. Can’t be done.

  21. Ventura Watch 2016

    Sounds like Gov. Ventura is slowly but surely moving toward Stern’s successful nomination strategy in 1994 . . .
    I.e. he just needs enough of his supporters to join the LP to overwhelm the stick-up-the-ass regulars” who vote for a Badnarik- or Root-type at the convention.

  22. Ventura Watch 2016

    Pay attention. I said this is moving toward the (successful) Stern NOMINATION strategy.

    Not campaign strategy. Presumably, gov. ventura would run on the proven Ventura campaign strategy, to wit:

    1. Run against the duopoly.
    2. Win

  23. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    So, VW, is Stern really interested, or is Jesse just throwing his name in there?

  24. paulie

    Pay attention.

    I did. Now it’s your turn.

    I said this is moving toward the (successful) Stern NOMINATION strategy.

    I know what you said. And I speculated that he could also very well follow the Stern POST-NOMINATION strategy of abandoning the campaign and suspend his campaign almost immediately. I also said it would not be out of character, and I said all that while being fully aware of what you said.

    Got it this time?

    Presumably, gov. ventura would run on the proven Ventura campaign strategy, to wit:

    1. Run against the duopoly.
    2. Win

    That’s a “little” harder to do at the national level, as two term state level winner Gary Johnson and many other state level winners learned the hard way.

    For starters, there’s that whole 15% debate hurdle. If Ventura had that in Minnesota, he wouldn’t have been in the debates and it’s highly unlikely he would have won. Retail politics without a lot of money also works better at the state level.

    Also, I’ll have to check but I think Minnesota may have public financing?

    Minnesota had a history of a strong Independence Party even before Ventura. And Perot had just run nationally on the Reform Party two years earlier, so that made them seem more credible. Ventura wouldn’t have those advantages in this race.

  25. paulie

    So, VW, is Stern really interested, or is Jesse just throwing his name in there?

    How would VW or any of us now? So far what we have seen is speculation based on very little. So unless VW is a personal acquaintance of Ventura and/or Stern, privy to information that has not been made public and cleared or willing to share it here…at this point we are just guessing.

  26. Bondurant

    Stern told Jesse, on The Howard Stern Show, that would vote for Hillary Clinton if she was the Democratic nominee. He said he would vote for here even if Ventura/Stern was on the ballot. Says a lot about Stern’s stand on issues.

    I have my doubts Ventura has the pull or organization to stack the LP convention like Bob Barr did, as VenturaWatch claims is should/could/will do. The rank-and-file will not let another Denver happen again and I think the state parties would be wise enough not to send infiltrators as their delegates. I know for a fact that shit would not fly in AZ.

  27. Jill Pyeatt Post author

    I personally don’t think either Ventura or Stern are interested in anything but publicity. It’s time to start looking for good candidates for the Libertarian Party for 2016.

  28. Ventura Watch 2016

    There is a lot of Libertarian support for Ventura, it’s just a question of whether they want to get active on the LNC floor.

    Every active Libertarian shuold support Ventura for President, since he is the number one candidate on the number one liberty issue, the 9/11 police state.

    Any Libertarian who isn’t on board with that is on a delusional ego trip, and needs to check themselves before they etc

  29. Bondurant

    I find it most amusing that Ventura Watch 2016 continually dodges the issue of Howard Stern being a credible candidate, for any office, on a liberty platform. If Jesse wants anyone to take him seriously then he needs to act seriously himself and, more importantly, step up his game and get out there doing real work. Circulating petitions to get on the ballot would be a good start. Hell, he could be doing that at each stop on his book tour. Get the ball rolling and show people you are looking for more than headlines (if they’re even headlines).

    The last comment is proof that he/she has no idea what the Libertarian Party is about or libertarian philosophy. We’re the only ones against a police state.

  30. paulie

    Good points, Bondurant. Even if Stern is secretly more libertarian than he has portrayed himself to be on his show, as I have been told, we would still face the question of how seriously either he or Ventura would take any such campaign – if one were to ever happen, as opposed to being yet another reason to get themselves more air time with speculation over whether they will run without ever having to pull the trigger.

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