The Secretary of State of the state of Oregon has responded to the letters sent by Tyler Smith on February 19, 2014 and the letter sent by the attorney for the Libertarian Party of Oregon on March 19, 2014. Here is the text of the letter:
Here is a link to the letters and some background on the dispute .
Also, here is the pdf file for this latest letter:
Letter from SOS to Tyler Smith (P0382206xA8AA7)


Contradiction in terms. Defeating top two by definition can never be foolish, while passing it always is.
And neither would be on the ballot in an actual election that can actually elect anyone.
Because no Libertarians would get to be in the government elections, having been safely eliminated in the qualifying round before any significant percentage of the population pays any attention; and knowing this, most likely not have filed to run even in that.
Too bad Oregon foolishly defeated Top Two.
Then both groups could be on the ballot; and we wouldn’t be subject to the embarassing scene of “libertarians” fighting each other over who gets to suck the statist teat of subsidized elections.
It’s not a PAC though. That makes a difference, right?
Don’t you guys already have an organization of somewhat similar name?
What is the significance of that? Does it comply with what courts and SOS have already said or violate?
Reeves (Burke) et.al. registered a miscellaneous PAC named “Libertarian Party of Oregon” on 4/11/2014
Do it up. I have a different Oregon one I want to do if I don’t get too tired, which I already pretty much am since I got up at 5 am and need to do same tomorrow.
All this shows is that the Oregon Secretary of State joins a long list of people and groups who got this issue wrong. Why couldn’t the Secretary of State have followed in the illustrious footsteps of a prior LNC, a convention credentials committee, and the secretary of the LSLA?
Since I’m in that long list, I guess I’ll just commiserate with the Secretary of State over a pint of Samuel Adams’ new beer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tby91aTGF4
Joe, you mean like Jimmy Kimmel’s “Lie-Witness News”?
“Video of Reeves’ LP Oregon Group Convention goes viral; highlight of Tonight show” would have made a good headline for today.
It’s for real. You should get in on the ground floor; there will be growing appreciation with time.
Nah… no Gary Johnson coins… I don’t deal in counterfeit libertarians.
Darn, that wouldn’t work then. And I was so hoping for some Yaps. Got any GaryJohnsonCoins?
They said they were going to charge you for storage in USD
Ask my bank.
Can I make it in the large stone currency of the island of Yap ?
Possibly. I’ll just need a confidential deposit to my bank account …
🙂
Could I charter you to make a similar letter that looks like a legal filing by the Oregon Republican Party’s general counsel?
Thank you, although I only wrote the parts that are not in all caps. The rest is straight copy and paste from a parody of a Nigerian scam letter seeking “investors” in the US invasion of Iraq (and possibly a copy and paste of an actual one before that). As I recall it took me less than a minute to write 🙂
Dave, I’d be happy to post a write-up of your convention or any of the other writers would. No April Fool’s Day joke–
>>Silly boy, Il Duce is Chairman forever. <<
I was referring to the election of a new chair at YOUR convention. Funny how that never even crossed your mind(s), or "agenda" or "business." —
Joe: “I don’t understand; don’t they have a new chair now after their convention?”
Silly boy, Il Duce is Chairman forever. AND he has the blessings of Pope Paulie!
The $250 fine for failing to file would opening ceremonies on the part of the SoS … you don’t get to just pay a $250 “tax” to refuse to disclose all your campaign finance transactions in perpetuity.
Paulie, that letter is a classic. Superb writing.
There may be a ruling from the Galactic Tribunal later today!
This is typical of Burke. He gets people involved in one of his schemes and then steps back out of the way. When the problems arise he has avoided all responsibility and possible fines. This habit of his goes back as far as the mid 1990s.
Speaking of Mr. Hacker here is an oldie but goodie. Some of you will remember of which I speak but some of you will not..
I meant this will all be settled in the courts before the SOS deadline for putting Gary’s name on the ballot last August, ooops, I mean the August before last August. Three Augusts before this coming August.
🙂
Why not? It could be a stopping point on the way to the Galactic Tribunal.
Perhaps former LPCA and LP National Judicial Committee Member Allen Hacker could preside?
Joe: “Of course this will all be settled by the courts long before then. . . .”
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Burke will want to go all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court before he accepts anything like a final word, but even in the event of failure at that level, I guess the World Court is next.
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Bob T
Hey Dave Terry — In the event that your guys play tough and hold out, are you gonna chip in some money to help pay the $250 fine?
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Bob T
I don’t understand; don’t they have a new chair now after their convention?
Too bad there don’t seem to be any minutes or other records of that massive meeting available.
At least I don’t see any at:
http://lporegon.net
Which has not been updated.
I wonder if it will still be up after the April 14 deadline?
Of course this will all be settled by the courts long before then. . . .
Joe
The letter showed up as a graphic at my office, but I see they’re not showing up at home. Are people out there seeing them?
I’m thinking that there might be a possibility that this will be it. It will probably cost them quite a bit of money to appeal, and perhaps their funding has dried up. However the Reeves people have surprised that they’ve been at it this long, and maybe they’re afraid (and rightfully s0) that they need to end in a win, or they’ll get sued for attorney fees..
It sounds like the Secretary of State’s office is tired of this.
What next?